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Stitch Face
11/12/2006, 02:46 PM
I'm not sticking up for them; I really am curious - why does everyone outside of the Aggies themselves hate that school? I know I do. It's not out of jealousy - they're an average team at best over the course of CFB history. But watching the ATM-Neb game it struck me - they have no respectful, sportsmanlike rivalries with anyone. Every team that plays them just wants to kick their a$s and get the he1l out of there as fast as possible. Something about ATM generates animosity from everyone they contact.

DarrellZero
11/12/2006, 02:55 PM
I don't hate them; I just think they're strange.

I also think they need to concentrate more on developing their "traditions" through football excellence and not just by making up some weird obsessive-compulsive rituals.

The few Texas Aggies I have known in person have been solid people.

Pepper
11/12/2006, 02:56 PM
Hate is a strong word, but here are a few reasons to not like them.
Reason 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD0tCLTkAuY
Reason 2: Pre-1999 they would beat up on us, so I'm glad to see the roles reversed.
Reason 3: After their 2002 loss in Norman, their fans were bragging about their Punter.
Reason 4: 77-0 is just funny. Kick 'em when their down.

mrowl
11/12/2006, 02:58 PM
I don't hate em, I just think they are weird.

I HATE Fran because of what he did to LT and TCU at the heisman ceremony, and obviously how he treated his players at Bama.

Stitch Face
11/12/2006, 03:01 PM
All good points. I guess it just seems to me like every game with them (especially in their stadium) turns into a hateful, smashmouth enterprise, regardless of who they're playing.

freshchris05
11/12/2006, 03:03 PM
I HATE Fran because of what he did to LT and TCU at the heisman ceremony, .


i dont remember this?? please explain

KingDavid
11/12/2006, 03:04 PM
They frighten me in a wierd sort of "David Koresh" sort of way. That is all.

freshchris05
11/12/2006, 03:05 PM
All good points. I guess it just seems to me like every game with them (especially in their stadium) turns into a hateful, smashmouth enterprise, regardless of who they're playing.

kind of like how easily miami games turn into battle royale's

Flagstaffsooner
11/12/2006, 03:12 PM
The whorns hate them, so I kind of like them. But they are weird.

Widescreen
11/12/2006, 03:20 PM
I don't hate them but their corp is stupid and their "traditions" are just rituals - some of which are so bizarre that if they were done outside the stadium they'd probably be arrested for disturbing the peace or performing lewd acts in front of children.

SoonerGM
11/12/2006, 03:23 PM
i lost respect for them when they swapped a good football coach out for that spineless pansey poser they have right now.

Crucifax Autumn
11/12/2006, 03:26 PM
Simple answer: Just LOOK at them!

mrowl
11/12/2006, 03:31 PM
i dont remember this?? please explain

he took the Bama job before the ceremony, and when he showed up, he was wearing a crimson tie, and bama pin.

And instead of him talking about the great accomplishments of Tomlinson and TCU that year, he decided to Pimp Bama to the national TV audience, and ignore that his star RB was what the question was about. ahole.

Crucifax Autumn
11/12/2006, 03:47 PM
That's classy!

Tidefan36854
11/12/2006, 04:10 PM
he took the Bama job before the ceremony, and when he showed up, he was wearing a crimson tie, and bama pin.

And instead of him talking about the great accomplishments of Tomlinson and TCU that year, he decided to Pimp Bama to the national TV audience, and ignore that his star RB was what the question was about. ahole.

I funny thing is I remember thinking that wearing the Bama stuff at the Heisman ceremony was badly timed. I guess we should have seen what coming what coming at the of 2002 huh? -lol :twinkies:

King Crimson
11/12/2006, 04:16 PM
They frighten me in a wierd sort of "David Koresh" sort of way. That is all.

Koresh's car was much MUCH cooler.

I don't like A$M at all. though, i was pulling for them against Nebraska yesterday......and boy did they come through. :rolleyes:

blackbeauty02
11/12/2006, 04:25 PM
their a bunch of wierdo's. they say they have traditions but it is just a kool-aid drinking cult. they have sacred ground for a f'ing dog with a scoreboard in front of them so Lassie can know the score (when they lose). they need to be worrying about having a tradition of winning instead of 10 other traditions that mean nothing. they've already lost 1 tradition, won't be surprised if more of them go away. probably the most disrespectful fans I have ever seen. I almost hate them more than Texas...almost.

Desert Sapper
11/12/2006, 04:32 PM
They pretend to be Soldiers and they have greater respect for their dogs than their women, evidenced by the respective rituals. Those two things are enough to place me on the outside of their 'circle'. I've liked mostly every TAMU guy I've met in the Army, unlike their VMI, Citadel, and UT contemporaries. You better bet that right now, at this juncture, and in two weeks, I am a HUGE Ags fan. Break Bevo's horns you crazy bastages!

lexsooner
11/12/2006, 05:09 PM
I agree with the reasons stated above. I also agree on a personal level, the aggies I have known and on their message boards seem like pretty nice folks, not nearly as arrogant or rude as UT or SEC fans, although the aggies strangely view themselves as a special breed.

Maybe they are best summed up as a kind of an odd ultra conservative, paramilitary school with some very weird traditions, all of which make them (and only them) feel they are somehow special. Texas has had a long history of acting like a country in itself, and maybe the aggies are a mere manifestation of this Texas insular, nationalism. If Texas seceded from the U.S. the aggie cadets would probably be the first to sign up to fight for the nation of Texas.

Objectively, they are a good regional engineering and ag school, but nothing special academically. In sports, their football program has almost never been top notch. Only in the 80s and part of the 90s when Jackie Sherrill and co. cheated like crazy, they surpassed UT as the premier Texas football program. But then again that was largely because they cheated. Their other sports pretty much suck.

Yet their grads act like having an aggie ring is a big deal and is really special and makes them special. The rest of the world just rolls its eyes when they cop this attitude, sort of like when watching two old frat boys doing their precious super secret frat handshake and being thrilled they are the only two in on their so very special secret, even though the rest of the world could not give a rat's behind.

Crucifax Autumn
11/12/2006, 05:19 PM
The aggies I knew when I lived in Texas were generally jackasses and rednecks of the worst sort. These guys would spend 4-8 years in an engineering school and come out talking like the most cartoonish uneducated hicks ever.

Most of the fans I knew down there actually seemed to think that their losses were always due to having black players or some other racist bs of that sort.

That all said...Go Aggies! lol

sooner518
11/12/2006, 05:26 PM
im jealous of their big leather boots..... :D

TexasBornSoonerProud
11/12/2006, 05:39 PM
I don't hate the Aggies, sure their traditions are a little bizarre but they hate texas. Being from Texas I have alot of experience with the Aggies and Longhorn fans, and the Aggies aren't arrogant like the Longhorns just proud of their school. I personally think of the Aggies and OU has friendly with eachother. My experience last week at the A&M game in the student section only furthered that belief.

Can't we all just hate Texas together???

Rogue
11/12/2006, 05:48 PM
My Aggie friends in West Texas used to root for OU when we play texas and I can respect their home field advantage. Very loud stadium! I don't have any reason to hate aTm. They ARE wierd though.

SoonerMooner
11/12/2006, 05:59 PM
You guys are full of ****. I don't like aggy either, but hate them? Uh, why? Wierd rituals only make me laugh, not hate. Now if they started kicking our asses on a regular basis and then talking an insane amount of smack then maybe.
There are only three schools that really HATE aggy, and they are texass, sand aggy, and teddy bear.

NYaggie
11/12/2006, 06:08 PM
This thread makes me go :rolleyes:

King Crimson
11/12/2006, 06:13 PM
This thread makes me go :rolleyes:

you guys against decent teams make me go :rolleyes:

1991SOONER
11/12/2006, 06:55 PM
Can't we all just hate Texas together???

I hate ALL teams from Tejas. period. And trust me, none of them like us much either..

Tear Down This Wall
11/12/2006, 06:56 PM
I like A&M. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. If they beat Texas and we win out...we'll be in the championship game...and I'll like them even more.

The people who don't like A&M are just flying deckwedges.

1991SOONER
11/12/2006, 06:57 PM
Further, aggies have this huge clique. If you work in Houston like I do, its really hard to get ahead because the ags take care of one another whether they deserve it or not. The rest of us have to work much harder to get ours. Thats one reason why I don't like them. Although some ags are actually ok...

I'll take an ag over a whorn any old day.

Okla-homey
11/12/2006, 07:06 PM
They pretend to be Soldiers and they have greater respect for their dogs than their women, evidenced by the respective rituals. Those two things are enough to place me on the outside of their 'circle'. I've liked mostly every TAMU guy I've met in the Army, unlike their VMI, Citadel, and UT contemporaries. You better bet that right now, at this juncture, and in two weeks, I am a HUGE Ags fan. Break Bevo's horns you crazy bastages!

Are you implying all us Citadel grads are a-holes? I resemble that remark!:mad:

Gandalf_The_Grey
11/12/2006, 07:15 PM
I just think the environment turns every game there into smash mouth. When their stadium is packed, the environment is second to no one's in the nation. I may have just had really good expierences down there so I may be jaded but the older fans were always very respectful and seemed level headed and very knowledgeable. The younger people can be arrogant but most of us are if you think about it, it's being called immature for a reason. Plus I have met some quite gorgeous A&M ladies and another cool thing is that if you get into an argument about OU and A&M, you can always end the argument with "Well Yeah but **** Texas!!" And everyone cheers

Crucifax Autumn
11/12/2006, 07:18 PM
another cool thing is that if you get into an argument about OU and A&M, you can always end the argument with "Well Yeah but **** Texas!!" And everyone cheers

Yeah, I've been there a few times!

jk the sooner fan
11/12/2006, 07:33 PM
those of you bagging on their traditions need to do ALOT of homework on the history of that school and the corps

otherwise you sound really stupid

academically its a great school

trwxxa
11/12/2006, 07:33 PM
No problems with me and aTm. While I'll admit some of their school traditions are strange, and those have been listed on other threads here, they have many more that are way cool.

The Aggies I know are all good folk.

Crucifax Autumn
11/12/2006, 07:35 PM
academically its a great school


And that's why I can't understand why so many of them talk like a 4 year old from alabama talking through a mouthful of cow crap.

jk the sooner fan
11/12/2006, 07:36 PM
get a broader brush to paint with why dont you

Crucifax Autumn
11/12/2006, 07:40 PM
I used the broad brush earlier in the thread...now I'm just making bad (but true) jokes for fun...

I'm just shocked no one more tasteless than me hasn't made any bonfire jokes yet. I guess that's too outdated and easy.

jk the sooner fan
11/12/2006, 07:44 PM
I guess that's too outdated and easy.

and tasteless

Crucifax Autumn
11/12/2006, 07:49 PM
That too...

So how about we pull out the 10 or so volumes of Aggie joke paperbacks available in any Austin bookstore instead?

How do Aggies practice safe sex?
They get rid of all the animals that kick.

Why did the Aggie keep a coat hanger in his back seat?
In case he locks the keys in his car.

Why can't Aggie farmers raise chickens?
They plant the eggs too deep.

One young Aggie was really afraid of catching AIDS.
So he practiced abstinence AND wore a condom.

jk the sooner fan
11/12/2006, 07:51 PM
did you hear about the aggie at the stop sign?



he's still there

Crucifax Autumn
11/12/2006, 07:53 PM
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MissouriSooner
11/12/2006, 08:11 PM
I agree with the reasons stated above. I also agree on a personal level, the aggies I have known and on their message boards seem like pretty nice folks, not nearly as arrogant or rude as UT or SEC fans, although the aggies strangely view themselves as a special breed.

Maybe they are best summed up as a kind of an odd ultra conservative, paramilitary school with some very weird traditions, all of which make them (and only them) feel they are somehow special. Texas has had a long history of acting like a country in itself, and maybe the aggies are a mere manifestation of this Texas insular, nationalism. If Texas seceded from the U.S. the aggie cadets would probably be the first to sign up to fight for the nation of Texas.

Objectively, they are a good regional engineering and ag school, but nothing special academically. In sports, their football program has almost never been top notch. Only in the 80s and part of the 90s when Jackie Sherrill and co. cheated like crazy, they surpassed UT as the premier Texas football program. But then again that was largely because they cheated. Their other sports pretty much suck.

Yet their grads act like having an aggie ring is a big deal and is really special and makes them special. The rest of the world just rolls its eyes when they cop this attitude, sort of like when watching two old frat boys doing their precious super secret frat handshake and being thrilled they are the only two in on their so very special secret, even though the rest of the world could not give a rat's behind.
Excellent analysis. They consider Aggiedom to be a special and exclusive club to which only a select few belong. They don't see how absurd they appear to outsiders. I visited aTm's campus a few years back, and was escorted around by a former aTm engineering professor. He spoke of the place like it was Arlington Cemetery, not a non-descript college campus in East Texas. They drink the kool-aide, and they're hooked for life. Oh, and they hate UT much much more than we do. They talk about how much they hate the shorthorns all the time, even when the subject is not football. Unique bunch.

Dio
11/12/2006, 08:27 PM
I don't hate A&M- I just bag on 'em sometimes 'cause its easy pickens.







Heh. I said "bag" in a post about nut-grabbers.

TUSooner
11/12/2006, 09:04 PM
Yeah, hate is a strong word. The silly fanaticism over the pseudo-military stuff puts me off aTm (see Desert Sapper), but I won't hesitate to pull for them if it will benefit OU, or if they play a team I dislike more... Like tejas or LSU. And I don't even really hate LSU, I just can't remember ever wanting them to win.

Seamus
11/12/2006, 09:04 PM
Reason 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD0tCLTkAuY


It might get gheyer than that, but I doubt it.

mrowl
11/12/2006, 09:22 PM
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1583/782/400/darth%20aggie.jpg

MamaMia
11/12/2006, 09:22 PM
I don't "hate" them at all. I just believe they're very very odd, but as long as they don't hurt anyone, I suppose they have the right to be as odd as they like.

Maybe they don't feel they're strange, but others certainly do. I take exception to the whole 'If any of you step on our sacred field, even accidentally, we'll make threatening spear gestures at you' thing is rude and silly. The grabbing of ones private parts to give themselves pain is vulgar and shocking. That type of behavior sets a bad example for normal children.

sendbaht
11/12/2006, 09:30 PM
I don't hate them, infact, I'll be their biggest fan on November 24th.

landbandit
11/12/2006, 09:55 PM
I like them and enjoy most of their traditions, but what I like most is that they yell no matter what and without stopping. They even yelled inbetween plays so the coaches would have a hard time calling plays...... they are loyal to a fault and I like that..... I respect it. They do have some strange traditions, but I still enjoy the way they yell at football games...... I wish our stadium was consistantly loud like theirs is......

Crucifax Autumn
11/12/2006, 09:59 PM
On TV it seemed pretty loud last night.

jk the sooner fan
11/12/2006, 10:11 PM
pseudo military?

you folks need to enlighten yourself

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_A&M_University_Corps_of_Cadets

some of you act like the traditions are something they pulled out of their *** about 20 years ago

TXBOOMER
11/12/2006, 10:12 PM
I don't hate them, but all of the little play solidiers that at like they are hard core military don't have a clue.

Boomer Sooner and Semper Fi!

TXBOOMER
11/12/2006, 10:19 PM
[QUOTE=jk the sooner fan]pseudo military?

you folks need to enlighten yourself


There is no doubt many aggies go on to serve proudly in the military. But until they are on active duty and realize aggie tradition doesn't make a patch on the *** of actual military tradition and defending a football field is nothing like defending your country they do not have a clue.

jk the sooner fan
11/12/2006, 10:22 PM
[QUOTE=jk the sooner fan]pseudo military?

you folks need to enlighten yourself


There is no doubt many aggies go on to serve proudly in the military. But until they are on active duty and realize aggie tradition doesn't make a patch on the *** of actual military tradition and defending a football field is nothing like defending your country they do not have a clue.

did you read how many cadets they've put in the military over the last 100+ years? West Point cadets havent served active duty yet (even though technically they're on active duty).....yet they have "silly traditions" too

like i said once before.....you cant maintain military tradition in a half-as* manner, it doesnt work....its all or nothing

TXBOOMER
11/12/2006, 10:41 PM
[QUOTE=TXBOOMER]

did you read how many cadets they've put in the military over the last 100+ years? West Point cadets havent served active duty yet (even though technically they're on active duty).....yet they have "silly traditions" too

like i said once before.....you cant maintain military tradition in a half-as* manner, it doesnt work....its all or nothing

My comments are for West Point, The Citadel, AF Academy, Naval Academy or any ROTC Unit on any campus of any university in the country. In my experiences in the Marine Corps boot officers out of the naval academy had more military bearing and knowledge than those that went to other schools, but until they spend some time on active duty and actually lead men they do no understand real military tradition. aggies maintain aggy traditions.

jk the sooner fan
11/12/2006, 10:47 PM
i did 21 years, i have a tad bit of knowledge as well

the aggie tradition is based on the fact it was a military school when it started in 1876....they arent just some "pseudo military" school as somebody else put it

they DO have a history, whether you choose to educate yourself on it or not

Big Red Ron
11/12/2006, 10:54 PM
The current aggy are psudo military and most do not serve. I don't care for them at all. I like all of the original Big XII schools more.

T_Boner
11/12/2006, 11:08 PM
crap like this makes it so easy...
http://www.aggienetwork.com/images/library/midnightyell.jpg

trwxxa
11/12/2006, 11:13 PM
crap like this makes it so easy...
http://www.aggienetwork.com/images/library/midnightyell.jpg

Having 15,000 students show up at a pep rally at Midnight Friday night before every home football game is crap because........

T_Boner
11/12/2006, 11:22 PM
Having 15,000 students show up at a pep rally at Midnight Friday night before every home football game is crap because........

....because he (they) look and act like homos and still don't sell out their games

Crucifax Autumn
11/12/2006, 11:22 PM
Because they practice cheering for god's sake...I mean....C'mon! I know it seems to pay off in crowd noise, but it's just...just...gay!

That pic of people PRACTICING bending over is all the proof I need. That chick looks like she's pacticing the old "keep a nickel between your legs" birth control method and lassie looks like she's about to come up and tell gay timmy that Fran fell down a well.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
11/12/2006, 11:27 PM
They frighten me in a wierd sort of "David Koresh" sort of way. That is all.They frighten me in a sort of Janet Reno burning down David Koresh sort of way.

Crucifax Autumn
11/12/2006, 11:30 PM
They frighten me in a drinking the kool aid and waiting for the UFO kinda way.

TAFBSooner
11/12/2006, 11:42 PM
If your traditions can help you bet texass :texan: ,

I say grab your gresticles!

T_Boner
11/12/2006, 11:54 PM
Because they practice cheering for god's sake...I mean....C'mon! I know it seems to pay off in crowd noise, but it's just...just...gay!


and here's more aggie cheerleaders
http://sports.tamu.edu/gallery/web2k4/27/ISU_0001.JPG
http://www.aggiesports.com/photos/tech/images/100100aggieyell.jpg

Crucifax Autumn
11/12/2006, 11:57 PM
Someone shoulda told 'em about "don't ask, don't tell".

T_Boner
11/12/2006, 11:58 PM
Someone shoulda told 'em about "don't ask, don't tell".

http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/pg2/2003/1126/photo/jm_yellleader1_hi.jpg
http://www.bootsandsabers.com/images/uploads/jedoyell.jpg

Crucifax Autumn
11/13/2006, 12:12 AM
http://www.bootsandsabers.com/images/uploads/jedoyell.jpg

"I can't quit you"

Crucifax Autumn
11/13/2006, 12:21 AM
http://img122.echo.cx/img122/1406/picture10sj.jpg

http://www.guy-sports.com/fun_pictures/car_wash_cows.jpg

Looks like a night of passion for this guy!

Crucifax Autumn
11/13/2006, 12:21 AM
The aspiring student psychiatrists from various colleges were attending their first class on emotional extremes.' Just to establish some parameters, 'said the professor, to the student from the University of Houston, 'What is the opposite of joy?'

' Sadness, 'replied the student.

' And the opposite of depression?' the professor asked of the young lady from Rice.

' Elation, 'said she.

' And you sir, 'he said to the young man from Texas A&M.' How about the opposite of woe?'

The Aggie replied, 'Sir, I believe that would be giddy-up.'

yermom
11/13/2006, 12:23 AM
i dont remember this?? please explain

yeah, i don't think i know this story either

i watched that Heisman show, but i didn't know who Fran was at the time so i probably wouldn't have thought much about him

i remember thinking Tomlinson was a stud though, i hadn't really seen him before that

Crucifax Autumn
11/13/2006, 12:24 AM
Aggie Birthday Party

http://mingthemerciless.com/img/klan.jpg

The_Red_Patriot
11/13/2006, 10:18 AM
they haven't done anything. How many Natl titles they got again?

MiccoMacey
11/13/2006, 10:30 AM
I like A&M and root for them except when they play OU.

yermom
11/13/2006, 10:35 AM
they haven't done anything. How many Natl titles they got again?

1 more than most Aggie teams ;)

Desert Sapper
11/13/2006, 12:39 PM
[quote=TXBOOMER]

did you read how many cadets they've put in the military over the last 100+ years? West Point cadets havent served active duty yet (even though technically they're on active duty).....yet they have "silly traditions" too

like i said once before.....you cant maintain military tradition in a half-as* manner, it doesnt work....its all or nothing

West Point cadets don't slobber on their dates at a football game (out of fear of being caught, mostly ;) ). Standards are sort of important to a military organization. The dog 'general' is a personal pet peeve. The 'first lady' bit is on the ridiculous end. I repeat that this only serves to remind everyone that TAMU cadets place a dog above their dates when it comes to respect. There is such a thing as a silly tradition, and there is such a thing as an embarrasing tradition. I would classify both of these as the latter rather than the former.

With regard to the WWII disparity of TAMU cadets to USMA cadets, it is due to two reasons. TAMU increased volume to meet US demands for officers. USMA has always had a congressional class size limitation. A comparison that reflects on the 'quantity vs. quality' argument would be the number of general officers, division commanders, brigade commanders, etc. from the respective organizations. That holds equally true today.

Personally, I have never much cared about the commissioning source argument. I have seen equal representation from every commissioning source when it comes to excellent and subpar officers. OCS, ROTC, and service academy officers are all on equal footing when they have the gold bar on their collars. I have met a fair number of excellent TAMU officers, some of whom I count as close friends. For the most part, they agree with me that their public 'traditions' can be embarrasing. They also agree with me that Texas Sucks. Hook 'em

As for the Citadel/VMI comment, it is just personal observation. I have friends from both institutions (and from Va Tech, who is seldom recognized for its outstanding ROTC program). The problem I sometimes have is with the 'ours is better' argument. They wear bigger rings (even though USMA first created that tradition), and they sometimes think that this means they deserve more respect (frequently at the expense of their respectability). I've often thought that those two schools just try too hard to prove that they are legitimate military academies. ;)

jk the sooner fan
11/13/2006, 12:42 PM
usma smack over tamu is a bit silly.......

my point was that tamu has made a significant contribution to the active duty efforts of the military.......i never said it WAS better than usma

Desert Sapper
11/13/2006, 01:02 PM
If you actually read my post, you would see that it's not smack. I'm addressing comments from a couple of different posters. Not once did I indulge in any form of smack talk except to reaffirm that I find the dog and date 'traditions' to be embarrassing. I mention that TAMU officers have agreed with me on this. I have also said that we can all agree that Texas Sucks.

I suppose you could say that me mentioning a comparison of quality v. quantity could be 'smack talk'. It isn't. It's fact. West Point and TAMU seek to produce quality officers. During WWII we needed a volume of officers. TAMU responded in a way that West Point could not.

I'm not going to debate which school is 'better'. That would be silly. Both schools have military tradition. Both schools have provided officers of quality for our nation's defense. That is all.

jk the sooner fan
11/13/2006, 01:05 PM
. Both schools have military tradition. Both schools have provided officers of quality for our nation's defense. That is all.

thats all i was ever trying to say regarding tamu

some of what they do is VERY goofy, no doubt.....but for those here to refer to their military traditions as "pseudo" is just ignorant of facts and history

Tear Down This Wall
11/13/2006, 01:11 PM
There's nothing wrong with A&M. Are the Aggie? Yes. But, not like Oklahoma Aggy or Auburn Aggy. Those places are out in the middle of nowhere.

College Station is within confortable driving distance of two 1,000,000+ population cities. Tons of kids from DFW and Houston go to A&M. It's a good, conservative-leaning school that is the sworn enemy of the homos in Austin.

So, A&M = good.

TexasLidig8r
11/13/2006, 01:14 PM
This will be one of the very few times my Texas arrogance comes out....

I certainly don't hate aggy. On the other hand, I do look down upon groupthink aggy.

I know many aggy and most, individually, are decent folk. However, you get a herd of aggy together and the groupthink mentality kicks in along with the mongoloid mentality.

The term "aggy" was coined to characterize the groupthink mentality of aggy.. the collective, in "Borg type" tradition. From the very start, the freshman are indoctrinated into aggy group think mentality... further, if you question their traditions, you can be ostracized, referred to as a "2%er."

aggy prides itself on the motto, "Aggies never cheat, lie or steal or tolerate those who do." However, the only sustained success aggy has had in football was as a result of one of the biggest cheaters in NCAA history and the fact that during this glorious ten year period, they were placed on probation at the start AND at the end of this period. This glorious ten year time period was marked by ZERO appearances in the AP Top 5 at the end of the year. Ironically, the last time aggy appeared in the top 5 in the AP poll at the end of the year was 1956... 50 years ago.. and.. they were on probation that year!

Athletically, their department has significant resources, yet, underperforms annually and finishes behind most Big XII schools in terms of conference and national championships. In fact, their ONLY men's national championship, in ANY sport, was 1939.. in football. Baylor's men's programs have more national championships. In fact Baylor has more wins against aggy then aggy has against Texas.

Academically, even their engineering school now lags behind Texas, as does their business school and medical programs and until recently, they did not even have a law school.

Granted, their school is more diverse now... they had no choice, and yet, they cling to a nation wide identity centered around a student population (approximately 1,200 in the corp) which constitutes about 3% of their overall student population. As for the corp itself, at one time, a fine example of prestige, pride and dedication. Now, academic standards are lowered for some if you commit to being in the corp for 4 years.

aggy is an anachronism, a throw back to a simpler time in America. Except for that 10 year period, for the most part, they were merely a team to defeat at the end of the year.. the series record.. 73 - 34 - 5.

We can no more hate aggy than we do our mentally impaired Uncle Jake who comes to Thanksgiving dinner and who eventually matriculates to the kiddy table. And like poor old Uncle Jake, aggy just can't get out of its own way.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
11/13/2006, 01:18 PM
There's nothing wrong with A&M. Are the Aggie? Yes. But, not like Oklahoma Aggy or Auburn Aggy. Those places are out in the middle of nowhere.

College Station is within confortable driving distance of two 1,000,000+ population cities. Tons of kids from DFW and Houston go to A&M. It's a good, conservative-leaning school that is the sworn enemy of the homos in Austin.

So, A&M = good.and I wish them well against the gayston folks in 2 weeks. Maroon aggy isn't even on my *hit list.

birddog
11/13/2006, 01:25 PM
i'm still waiting on cvs to show up with his thread-ending pic.

Big Red Ron
11/13/2006, 01:43 PM
aTm is in the middle of fricken nowhere! What a godforsaken place to go to college. I have said I'll never go back for four years but we keep winning when I go. I hate the place not the people (cept those queers with the glow in the dark puffy paint all over them).

1991SOONER
11/13/2006, 01:48 PM
Academically, even their engineering school now lags behind Texas, as does their business school and medical programs and until recently, they did not even have a law school.

This does not surprise me. I work hand in hand with these people and I guarantee you that they do not teach engineering there. At least I can understand what t-sips are talking about, but ags? They have their own tribunal language and their engineering is 180* from everyone elses. Highly overated program IMO. They simply survive (and promote each other) based on the network connections with other ags. Pure and simple (and unfair).

tamu1876
11/13/2006, 02:07 PM
FYI, Texaslid, A&M does not have a law school - which is not necessarily a bad thing. In engineering, A&M is ranked 14th and tu 13th (per USNews) - painful, yes, but that does not equal "lagging."

Big Red Ron
11/13/2006, 03:15 PM
FYI, Texaslid, A&M does not have a law school - which is not necessarily a bad thing. In engineering, A&M is ranked 14th and tu 13th (per USNews) - painful, yes, but that does not equal "lagging."...but they cannot build a bonfire?

jk the sooner fan
11/13/2006, 03:15 PM
...but they cannot build a bonfire?

tacky, very very tacky

Big Red Ron
11/13/2006, 03:18 PM
tacky, very very tackyAww, c'mon Dad!

Gandalf_The_Grey
11/13/2006, 03:20 PM
Well, huh, might as, might as well ask why is a tree good? Why is the sunset good? Why are boobs good?

jk the sooner fan
11/13/2006, 03:25 PM
Aww, c'mon Dad!

making jokes about dead college students at any time is in poor taste, just my opinion

Big Red Ron
11/13/2006, 03:30 PM
making jokes about dead college students at any time is in poor taste, just my opinionTo me, there isn't anything funny about people dying. The humor lies within the fact that it was, in fact, Engineering students who built the "bonfire."

jk the sooner fan
11/13/2006, 03:31 PM
accidents happen all over the place.....rocket scientists built the shuttle which blew up twice....is that funny just because it was in fact built by rocket scientists?

**** happens, doesnt make it funny though

Big Red Ron
11/13/2006, 03:36 PM
I find it quite humorous that a school that is only know for their engineering school cannot even build a fire. There I said it.

tamu1876
11/13/2006, 03:37 PM
The humor lies within the fact that it was, in fact, Engineering students who built the "bonfire."

The building of bonfire was not limited to engineering students - so maybe the death of those students is not quite so humorous?

Big Red Ron
11/13/2006, 03:41 PM
The building of bonfire was not limited to engineering students - so maybe the death of those students is not quite so humorous?I knew people there at the time. The enineering guys were in charge and I did say (and you obviously ignored) that people dying is never funny.

Man you Ags are thick.

tamu1876
11/13/2006, 03:50 PM
Ohhh, I get it. So the OSU plane crash was funny because it was, in fact, a pilot that crashed the plane, but the actual deaths that resulted were not funny.

Also, the people you knew at A&M at the time apparently had little knowledge of the process, as engineers were not in charge (very clearly they should have been).

Big Red Ron
11/13/2006, 03:54 PM
If OSU held itself out as some major aeronautical school then yeah, there'd be humor in there somewhere, after time.

Gandalf_The_Grey
11/13/2006, 04:03 PM
There is some things that are just taboo...you don't make fun of little kids, 9/11, Accidents that result in lots of death...and other things. The problem being that now this thread gets linked back to Soonerfans.com from Hornfans.com, GoPokes.com, and TexasAgs.com and they will say look at the ignorant Sooner fans making fun of dead college students and then they paint us all with a brush of ignorant hateful fan base.

Big Red Ron
11/13/2006, 04:06 PM
Who cares. It's a frickin chat board and nobody said **** about students dying. You know and I know it's the same **** said about Aggy in Austin, Norman, Stoolwater and lubbuck everytime it's aggy time.

Jimminy Crimson
11/13/2006, 04:09 PM
The building of bonfire was not limited to engineering students...

...so the make-believe army helped, too?

:pop:

Gandalf_The_Grey
11/13/2006, 04:11 PM
It's not the fact that we should care or even that you were joking about the process that led to the deaths....it is similar to say me making a joke about one of the guys dying in the World Trade Center actually being the guy in charge of making sure everyone knew how to get out if a disaster did occur. It just doesn't come off as funny to about 99% of people. And in all honesty I have never heard anyone make fun of the bonfire incident on any level any where.

jk the sooner fan
11/13/2006, 04:32 PM
ymssr gandalf

OklahomaRed
11/13/2006, 04:52 PM
"JKTSF & Gandalf take the high road, and BRR takes the low road, and they will be in Scotland before ye.......!"

Come on guys, get off your pedestals and note the context of the joke and quit trying to make yourselves feel superior to someone else. Geez ! :D

Crucifax Autumn
11/13/2006, 04:54 PM
accidents happen all over the place.....rocket scientists built the shuttle which blew up twice....is that funny just because it was in fact built by rocket scientists?

Were any of the scientists aggies? LOL

I said earlier in this thread that someone would pull that out and sure enough...

So it's good to see that I'm not the only one in the last week to get in trouble around here for disrespecting the dead.

OklahomaRed
11/13/2006, 05:46 PM
Woah..........

Got me some red speck on that one. Hmmmmmmmmm......

I guess I need to lighten up a little bit !! Must have been my old buddy SFJK ? :confused:

No signature, though? :D

PLaw
11/13/2006, 06:00 PM
Are you talking about the Oklahoma Aggies or the Texass Aggies????

Presuming you are referring to the TAMU, then here are some things to consider, but I'm not sure the sum total musters up to HATE:

1) The Corps turd that drew his saber and pinned it to the chest of the SMU cheerleader for stepping onto Kyle Field in the early 80's.

2) The D-lineman that intentionally broke Rodney Allison's lega in 1977 after Tech had risen to No. 5 in polls.

3) It was an all male school until 1971.

4) Do you understand the meaning of gig 'em??

5) Besides OU, TAMU is one of the post penalized schools in NCAA lore. Eric Dickerson showed up in Dallas driving a nice little maroon colored T/A.

I like most Aggies I've met and work with, but they are overly zealous and blind to a fault about their warts.

GO SOONERS
PLaw

lexsooner
11/13/2006, 06:14 PM
Not to mention the aggies have a student body about as open-minded and sensitive as the frat boys at OU:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/11/gates_unfinishe.html

caphorns
11/13/2006, 06:26 PM
I hate aggy because they are infinitely hateworthy in every way possible at all times. There must be a word for that. Omni-despicable? Is that sufficient?

Stitch Face
11/13/2006, 07:29 PM
Hate is a relative term. College football hate is a few steps below, say, Israel-Palestine type hate. More like, "I hate to see Bill Callahan win anything regardless of my prior respect for Nebraska" kinda hate.

And the muggin' on the wimmins after a score is the only thing that totally gets on my head. I didn't go to a "military" school of any sort and I know not to do that crap in public while in uniform. Get real.

Crucifax Autumn
11/13/2006, 07:36 PM
Well, to be fair it's aggie wimmins so at most other schools, except maybe Baylor and our own aggies, they'd qualify as men.

Gandalf_The_Grey
11/13/2006, 07:36 PM
Dude the military encourages their people to get action...straight action that is!! It shows we are men!!

blackbeauty02
11/13/2006, 08:25 PM
http://sports.tamu.edu/gallery/web2k4/27/ISU_0001.JPG

the number one reason...THEY HAVE SPIRIT FINGERS!!!

I'm sorry but any school that has all male cheerleaders must be gay. the only sufficient reason for any male to become a cheerleader is so he can look up the girl cheerleaders skirt when he holds them up. Aggies...not so much. They become cheerleaders to stick their spirit fingers in eachothers... :eek:

Crucifax Autumn
11/13/2006, 08:34 PM
http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/TV/9908/02/tv.syndication/richard.simmons.jpg
OOOhhhhhh!!!!! Did someone say spirit finger?????

TXBOOMER
11/13/2006, 08:37 PM
I'd rather serve with a USMA or The Citadel graduate or any ROTC college graduate. If you are ever under the command of an ag and you are not an ag you will get f***** on your performance reviews. That is common knowledge in the real Corps. Luckily, most of them serve in the Army. Also, all that bending over getting ready to take one in the pooper has always bothered me. JK I only did 9 years, 26 months of that was spent leading men in the sand. I will agree to disagree with you about the 18 - 22 year olds at College Station that will most likely ever spend a night on active duty.
Ooh Rah!

Sooner_Havok
11/13/2006, 08:39 PM
I think I touched a nerve with one of them. I was talking to a friend and I said I didn't understand why A&M thought they had tradition. Well, some Aggie chicka turned around and asked me how I could think that A&M had no tradition and if I had ever been to College Station. I told her I had, but the only tradition they had was being loud jack@sses. I then mentioned if she wanted to see what a real tradition is, go into OUr stadium and look at all the National Championships, Conference Championships, Bowl Victories, and All Americans.

jk the sooner fan
11/13/2006, 08:44 PM
I'd rather serve with a USMA or The Citadel graduate or any ROTC college graduate. If you are ever under the command of an ag and you are not an ag you will get f***** on your performance reviews. That is common knowledge in the real Corps. Luckily, most of them serve in the Army. Also, all that bending over getting ready to take one in the pooper has always bothered me. JK I only did 9 years, 26 months of that was spent leading men in the sand. I will agree to disagree with you about the 18 - 22 year olds at College Station that will most likely ever spend a night on active duty.
Ooh Rah!

the finest officer i ever served under was an aggie....and he never screwed me on my performance review

west pointers are famous for sandbagging performance evaluations over a non west pointer....they dont call them ring knockers for nothing!

Crucifax Autumn
11/13/2006, 08:45 PM
Losing doesn't count as a real tradition?

I admit it's not an admirable tradition, but it is a tradition.

sanantoniosooner
11/13/2006, 08:48 PM
the finest officer i ever served under was an aggie....and he never screwed me on my performance review

west pointers are famous for sandbagging performance evaluations over a non west pointer....they don't call them ring knockers for nothing!
could you please rephrase this in a way that conforms to groupthink?

TXBOOMER
11/13/2006, 08:54 PM
the finest officer i ever served under was an aggie....and he never screwed me on my performance review

west pointers are famous for sandbagging performance evaluations over a non west pointer....they dont call them ring knockers for nothing!

I don't doubt you served under a good one. I actually never served directly under one but I've heard lots of stories and never desired to do it. Getting back to the original subject matter, I truly believe a lot of old ags that served have military tradition but all of the hullabelew at College Station is student tradition and I won't change my mind on that. But, I have a certain amount of respect for everyone that serves unless of course they are whorns.

sanantoniosooner
11/13/2006, 08:54 PM
Dang.

This thread started sucking big time.

trwxxa
11/13/2006, 09:17 PM
I think I touched a nerve with one of them. I was talking to a friend and I said I didn't understand why A&M thought they had tradition. Well, some Aggie chicka turned around and asked me how I could think that A&M had no tradition and if I had ever been to College Station. I told her I had, but the only tradition they had was being loud jack@sses. I then mentioned if she wanted to see what a real tradition is, go into OUr stadium and look at all the National Championships, Conference Championships, Bowl Victories, and All Americans.

There are differences between football tradition and school tradition.

You did tell her all about our school tradition, right?:rolleyes:

Gandalf_The_Grey
11/13/2006, 09:27 PM
They told them about our basketball tradition...you know the one where we only go if the team is really entertaining!

trwxxa
11/13/2006, 09:41 PM
http://sports.tamu.edu/gallery/web2k4/27/ISU_0001.JPG

the number one reason...THEY HAVE SPIRIT FINGERS!!!

I'm sorry but any school that has all male cheerleaders must be gay. the only sufficient reason for any male to become a cheerleader is so he can look up the girl cheerleaders skirt when he holds them up. Aggies...not so much. They become cheerleaders to stick their spirit fingers in eachothers... :eek:

They do have female cheer leaders at the basketball games, so I guess this makes them bi-sexual?

Crucifax Autumn
11/13/2006, 11:33 PM
It's not that...it's just that by the time basketball is in full swing they've forked over the money for the sex changes.