You have got to be SH*&(ING me!

[noobalicious]

We moved up all of 1 spot in the USA Today Coaches poll.

:confused:

[DrZaius]

That is about what I figured.......with the fact that OU has to beat their football opponents and for the last couple of years we have had to beat the press as well.

Our candle burns at both ends

[Blues1]

I was Afraid of that......We gotta go "ALL THE Way" If we want a Top 15 Finish...!!!!

[Crucifax Autumn]

oops...just posted the same thing...

[DrZaius]

I feel bad for Arkansas....they are killing the SEC and USC, Notre Dame have pathetic schedules.

Notre Dame has played Navy, Air Force, UNC and they almost lost to GT and MSU. WTF

[Indy Sooner]

Crazy... cheated on the road preventing a 9-1 record at this point and a top 8 ranking... guess the coaches resent Bob.

[Blues1]

USA POLL
1. Ohio State (62) 11-0 1,574 1
2. Michigan (1) 11-0 1,513 2
3. Florida 9-1 1,381 6
4. Southern California 8-1 1,373 7
5. Notre Dame 9-1 1,273 8
6. Arkansas 9-1 1,248 11
7. West Virginia 8-1 1,113 10
8. Rutgers 9-0 1,082 14
9. LSU 8-2 1,054 12
10. Wisconsin 10-1 928 16
11. Texas 9-2 927 3
12. Louisville
8-1 884 4
13. Boise State 10-0 830 13
14. Wake Forest 9-1 724 19
15. Auburn
9-2 721 5
16. Oklahoma 8-2 711 17
17. California
8-2 580 9
18. Georgia Tech 8-2 566 18
19. Virginia Tech 8-2 420 21
20. Boston College 8-2 384 22
21. Maryland
8-2 325 24
22. Nebraska 8-3 228 25
23. Tennessee 7-3 213 15
24. Brigham Young
8-2 116 NR
25. Clemson 8-3 94 NR


Dropped out

No. 20 Oregon (7-3, lost to then-No. 7 Southern California 35-10), No. 23 Texas A&M (8-3, lost to then-No. 25 Nebraska 28-27)



Others receiving votes

Oregon (7-3) 72; Hawaii (8-2) 65; Texas A&M (8-3) 29; Georgia (7-4) 19; Houston (8-3) 7; TCU (7-2) 7; Missouri (7-3) 4; Kansas State (7-4); Tulsa (7-3) 3; Texas Tech (6-5) 2; Central Michigan (7-3)

[DrZaius]

Hence my comment that we are having to beat the press as well as other teams

[GreenSooner]

Well what do you expect when so few teams ahead of us lost? ;)

[Frozen Sooner]

That is about what I figured.......with the fact that OU has to beat their football opponents and for the last couple of years we have had to beat the press as well.

Our candle burns at both ends


Yeah, those damn people in the press really screwed us! Not one single member of the press voted us in the top 25 in the coaches' poll!

[Crucifax Autumn]

LMAO

[tommie15]

Auburn has no business being ranked above you, but you could make an argument for every other team. Would you beat most of the 5 ranked right above you, probably.

[SoonerInKCMO]

Y'all might go apoplectic when the BCS rankings come out. I wouldn't be surprised if we drop a spot or two.

[Crucifax Autumn]

I'll be ****ed, but not shocked if that's the case.

[Frozen Sooner]

^^

Possible. Our computers are going to take a beating with both our losses losing to teams we didn't play and one of our good wins losing to a team we didn't play.

[Flagstaffsooner]

We should start ordering Anal Lube by the case.

[Widescreen]

I don't think the BCS matters. Our only way in is winning the B12 IMO.

[SoonerInKCMO]

^^

Possible. Our computers are going to take a beating with both our losses losing to teams we didn't play and one of our good wins losing to a team we didn't play.

Yep, we've dropped five spots in Sagarin's ratings and four in Wolfe's. I don't think the rest post their ratings until tomorrow when the BCS standings are revealed.

[noobalicious]

Actually I stand corrected. We did not move up at all. We were tied with Wisconsin at 16 last week as someone pointed out on another thread. They sqweak out a win v. Iowa with the help of a inordinate number of drops by Hawkeye receivers...and jump to #10. We stayed steady at 16.

But people so easily forget that we are a 1 loss team...and our one loss involved us statistically dominating the other team - turnovers were what killed us.

And yes, I would not be surprised if we drop in the BCS, but I would also be p-oed.


Well what do you expect when so few teams ahead of us lost?

Hahahahaha

[Crucifax Autumn]

I get the idea that they could all lose and we'd drop a spot.

[Indy Sooner]

1 Ohio St. (64) 11-0 1624 1
2 Michigan (1) 11-0 1561 2
3 Florida 9-1 1436 6
4 Southern Cal 8-1 1433 7
5 Arkansas 9-1 1331 11
6 Notre Dame 9-1 1302 9
7 Rutgers 9-0 1212 15
8 West Virginia 8-1 1075 10
9 LSU 8-2 1074 12
10 Louisville 8-1 1028 3
11 Texas 9-2 965 4
12 Wisconsin 10-1 930 16
13 Boise St. 10-0 805 14
14 Wake Forest 9-1 777 18
15 Auburn 9-2 751 5
16 Oklahoma 8-2 746 17
17 California 8-2 595 8
18 Georgia Tech 8-2 563 19
19 Virginia Tech 8-2 413 20
20 Boston College 8-2 350 22
21 Maryland 8-2 309 23
22 Tennessee 7-3 276 13
23 BYU 8-2 216 25
24 Nebraska 8-3 197 NR
25 Clemson 8-3 57 NR

[Crucifax Autumn]

Yeah...I'm so sure Wake Forest would kick our ***...

[Indy Sooner]

Interesting games the rest of the month...

Current #1 will play #2, #3 will play #5, #4 and #6, and #7 vs. #8.

Just like every season, win all your games and you play for the MNC. Unless you are the overrated Auburn Tubervilles.

[BillyBall]

It is kind of funny how Wisconsin jumped to 10 after the win yesterday. IMO, the only reason that Wisconsin's 10 and 1 is because they have an extremely soft schedule. They have only played one top 25 team and lost, they have only beaten 3 teams with winning percentages over .500, and they get to miss tOSU. Their "quality" wins this year have been against Iowa, Purdue, and Penn St.

[Okieflyer]

They sure do love LSU though.

[BillyBall]

They sure do love LSU though.

Best 2 loss team in the history of college foosball

[TripleOption14]

They sure do love LSU though.


Its LSU's defense that everyone is in love with. I just can't get over the fact that these voters don't wanna acknowledge the fact that OU is a one loss team. Its obvious all they look at is the wins and losses column. Friggin unreal!!

[Scott D]

Yep, we've dropped five spots in Sagarin's ratings and four in Wolfe's. I don't think the rest post their ratings until tomorrow when the BCS standings are revealed.

that'll be tonight actually.

[Crucifax Autumn]

If their Defense was that damn good they'd be undefeated.

[mrowl]

looks like we will be 15 in the BCS.

[All_Day_28]

where do you guys think we would be if the Oregon game went right? Am I wrong for thinking maybe like number 5 or 6?

[Indy Sooner]

where do you guys think we would be if the Oregon game went right? Am I wrong for thinking maybe like number 5 or 6?

9 or 10

[Crucifax Autumn]

Almost certainly...

Except for the fact that everyone hates us! lol

[Scott D]

New BCS standings will be announced at 7:30pm tonight.

[mrowl]

prediction.

1 Ohio State
2 Michigan
3 USC
4 Florida
5 Notre Dame
6 Rutgers
7 Arkansas
8 LSU
9 Louisville
10 West Virginia

[KingDavid]

Let's see, BCS looks like this if Texas closes out with wins:

* Ten spaces, as follows:
1 - Big XII - Texas
2,3 - Big Ten - Mich & OSU
4,5 - SEC - Two Spots
6 - Pac 10 - One
7,? - Big East - At least One
8 - ACC - One

Leaves Two spots to be divided amongst:

1) Notre Dame (likely)
2) Boise
3) Big East
4) OU if we win out.

Notre Dame gets a bid unless they get hammered by USC. That leaves one space.

So we're pretty much fooked, unless something like the following happens:

1) In the big East, we pretty much need Rutgers to win out, and for Louisville to drop one more game.

2) Boise has to drop one (to a soft schedule).

3) And we have to win out.

So, hard for me to see us getting a BCS slot outside of Texas pulling a major choke-attack against A&M. Could happen. But doubtful.

Damn. Damn. Damn. That Oregon game keeps coming back and sliding its hard schlong up our collective arse.

[Desert Sapper]

No way Rutgers gets that much respect until they beat WV. After watching those kids play on Thursday, I was more than a little shocked at the SPEED of their D. That's the fastest D I've seen in a while.

And I concur, as I have said from the beginning. We need Texas to drop two Big XII games. A pox on anybody that didn't want to see NU, OSU, or Tech drop those schmucks. Now we have to pray for a aTm win. Much thanks to K-State. Good going, Ron Prince. You are my hero.

[SoonerGM]

explain this one as well:

louisville beats west virginia.
rutgers beats louisville.

west virginia is ranked over both? not that i really care, but did i miss something on that?

additionally, what ever happend to late season loses hurting you more than early season losses? we have a 5 game winning streak going on right now, a lot of these teams cant say that. what is going on with the coach's poll this year?

[SoonerInKCMO]

that'll be tonight actually.

I, of course, meant tomorrow GMT. N00b.



:O

[SicEmBaylor]

The fact that Oregon dropped out of the polls probably hurts you, but that shouldn't count as a loss to any of the actual human voters (though the BCS computer can't be helped).

[soonertruth12]

The fact that Oregon dropped out of the polls probably hurts you, but that shouldn't count as a loss to any of the actual human voters (though the BCS computer can't be helped).

It shouldnt hurt us but it will. Early on everyone seemed to be talking about the loss as major B.S. but no one is taking it into account for our rankings. I think we should be ranked ahead of every two loss team, with the exeption of LSU (you could make an argument with TexASS). How the hell does Auburn get ranked above us, they have two home losses to (at the time) unranked teams and both were arse poundings.

[Crucifax Autumn]

It's not held against them because they smile and like the arse pounding!

[soonertruth12]

I cant figure out how Auburn is ranked ahead of us. Two at-home losses to (at the time) unranked teams with both being severe ace whoopings.

[Tidefan36854]

I was really surprised at that as well, especially considering that OU has really only lost 1 game. Everybody in football, except a few Ducks, acknowledge that.

[SoonerHawk]

I cant figure out how Auburn is ranked ahead of us. Two at-home losses to (at the time) unranked teams with both being severe ace whoopings.

Exactly, When I saw Auburn lose that game and the way they did, I was sure we would jump above them. This is crazy!!

[AzianSooner]

some team already play 9 or 10 games already. So, they might have more score for the win than us OU. Assume that they don't play next week and we do with a win, then we move up some more.

[GreenSooner]

The bottom line is that the BCS was, is, and will always be a joke.

Of course someone will say it's great because "every game is a playoff game." Of course, this has always been nonsense. Even if we confine ourselves to the so-called Championship Game, in all likelihood one of the teams in it this year will have a loss, and at least one of the teams out of it won't. But beyond the Championship Game, the phoniness of this story is even more blatant.

Participation in the BCS will, as always, decided by a series of biases, some programmed into a few computers, others wielded by bowl selection committees. And the biggest bias of all, the one driving the whole operation, is the desire of a few conferences (plus Notre Dame) to maximize their short-term income that is so blinding that they can't even see the enormous revenue stream that a real playoff system would generate.

[Desert Sapper]

Everyone that hates the BCS needs to pray that Rutgers runs the table and is shut out of the championship game. Power resides in the Northeast, and if lighting the Empire State Building for the Louisville game is not testament enough to what Rutgers means to NYC right now, I don't know what is. Bottom line is that if Rutgers runs the table and is shut out of the title game, we will see some form of playoff next year. Count on it.

[Crucifax Autumn]

In that case...Go Rutgers! and keep up the fine work BCS!

[Reincarnate]

As much as I hate the BCS system, I wished Stoops would go politicing with this phrase. "We should be the highest ranked 2-loss team considering we technically have lost only 1 game" and remind voters of the Oregon screw-job. It appears they have forgot this incident, at least if he said that......he would get the sports pundits debating it on TV.

[Crucifax Autumn]

True enough.

[franklinjake]

looks like we will be 15 in the BCS.

Its amazing how soon voters forget about that Oregon game. They look strictly at the 2 losses. After that Oregon game I remember when we said "thanks" to the Pac-10 from screwing us out of a BCS game, some announcers said after that game that we weren't a BCS quality team. I wonder if they care to change that opinion now? Take that loss away we have had a very impressive year after having a lot of bad things happen to our program! I honestly think, even with all the injuries, we can beat anyone in the country right now, we are hitting on all 8 cylinders!

[Rogue]

As much as I hate the BCS system, I wished Stoops would go politicing with this phrase. "We should be the highest ranked 2-loss team considering we technically have lost only 1 game" and remind voters of the Oregon screw-job. It appears they have forgot this incident, at least if he said that......he would get the sports pundits debating it on TV.

Mebbe, but then he'd look like :mack: crying. As bad as it is, when we got beat by texas we pretty much dropped off the map, fair or not. True we should be a one-loss team with that one loss to our biggest rival.

[franklinjake]

As much as I hate the BCS system, I wished Stoops would go politicing with this phrase. "We should be the highest ranked 2-loss team considering we technically have lost only 1 game" and remind voters of the Oregon screw-job. It appears they have forgot this incident, at least if he said that......he would get the sports pundits debating it on TV.

I think he should do that idea by getting out there and pushing that we are only a 1 loss team. Gotta get some pressure on voters. If we win out, which I think we will, there is absolutely no reason why we shouldnt be in a BCS game. Should be a fail safe thing the NCAAcould do in this situation to drop our loss to Oregon off of our record, thats all the voters are looking at.

[snp]

Whoooooooo cares if we're 14, 15, or 16? It doesn't matter.

[franklinjake]

Mebbe, but then he'd look like :mack: crying. As bad as it is, when we got beat by texas we pretty much dropped off the map, fair or not. True we should be a one-loss team with that one loss to our biggest rival.

Plus noone can say that our team (mainly the defense) was playing like crap the first of the year, and now one of the best defensive units in the country. We are a totally different team right now. Too bad we werent playing like this a couple months ago -----

[Crucifax Autumn]

I think it's just the principle of the thing.

[franklinjake]

Everyone that hates the BCS needs to pray that Rutgers runs the table and is shut out of the championship game. Power resides in the Northeast, and if lighting the Empire State Building for the Louisville game is not testament enough to what Rutgers means to NYC right now, I don't know what is. Bottom line is that if Rutgers runs the table and is shut out of the title game, we will see some form of playoff next year. Count on it.

I don't even know if that would do it. We have had this problem for how many years? Lots of money is in So Cal too when USC didnt get a shot in 2003. Only way I think to get it done is to have fans not buy tickets in protest to the BCS games, that would get their attention!

[8timechamps]

Teams I am 100% sure we would beat:

Auburn
Wake
Boise State
Louisvlle
LSU
Rutgers

So, they way I look at it, we should be ranked around 9 or 10 if not for the Oregon ordeal.

[8timechamps]

Whoooooooo cares if we're 14, 15, or 16? It doesn't matter.

I fail to understand your logic.

BCS game, recruiting, pride.

I just don't follow you.

[snp]

We're not going to a BCS bowl because we're ranked above or below Wisconsin, Wake Forest, etc. I want us to be as high as possible, but really, it doesn't matter. Think recruits will care if we're argueably a few spots below where we do belong? They care about winning, not ranking.

All I care about is beating Baylor and Oklahoma State. Hope for A&M to beat Texas, and that's all we can wish for.Worrying about a couple spots is really silly.

[Scott D]

Let's see, BCS looks like this if Texas closes out with wins:

* Ten spaces, as follows:
1 - Big XII - Texas
2,3 - Big Ten - Mich & OSU
4,5 - SEC - Two Spots
6 - Pac 10 - One
7,? - Big East - At least One
8 - ACC - One

Leaves Two spots to be divided amongst:

1) Notre Dame (likely)
2) Boise
3) Big East
4) OU if we win out.

Notre Dame gets a bid unless they get hammered by USC. That leaves one space.

So we're pretty much fooked, unless something like the following happens:

1) In the big East, we pretty much need Rutgers to win out, and for Louisville to drop one more game.

2) Boise has to drop one (to a soft schedule).

3) And we have to win out.

So, hard for me to see us getting a BCS slot outside of Texas pulling a major choke-attack against A&M. Could happen. But doubtful.

Damn. Damn. Damn. That Oregon game keeps coming back and sliding its hard schlong up our collective arse.

SEC won't get 2 guaranteed spots. If Arkansas wins out and goes to the CCG, they are playing another 1 loss SEC team. Loser of that game is likely out of a BCS Bowl.

[gnostic19]

We're not going to a BCS bowl because we're ranked above or below Wisconsin, Wake Forest, etc. I want us to be as high as possible, but really, it doesn't matter. Think recruits will care if we're argueably a few spots below where we do belong? They care about winning, not ranking.

All I care about is beating Baylor and Oklahoma State. Hope for A&M to beat Texas, and that's all we can wish for.Worrying about a couple spots is really silly.

I think it's important cause, like an earlier post stated, there are 4-5 teams that are guaranteed to lose because of a series of games where teams in the top 10 will be playing each other. If we were to win out we would be ranked anywhere from 4-6, i believe. Of course, this has more to do with the assumption that our game against UO was a win and not a "loss".
Most voters by now have forgotten about the Oregon viasco...that or they refuse to take the pseudo-loss into consideration when contemplating our position. It could end up that the UO "loss" could cost us an at-large BCS bowl game. I am not sure of the qualifications necessary for such a scenario but we would definitely be in consideration. Especially knowing that AD would be playing in his last game in college. BCS bowls and networks like that kind of selling point.
All things considered, that UO screw-job is the gift that keeps on giving.:rolleyes:

[IndySooner]

I feel bad for Arkansas....they are killing the SEC and USC, Notre Dame have pathetic schedules.

Notre Dame has played Navy, Air Force, UNC and they almost lost to GT and MSU. WTF

THEY ALSO PLAYED A CLOSE GAME AT HOME WITH STANFORD TOO.

[IndySooner]

they REALLY hate Wisconsin.:rolleyes:

[tbl]

Interesting games the rest of the month...
Current #1 will play #2, #3 will play #5, #4 and #6, and #7 vs. #8.

We're in for some good football gamage...

[Crucifax Autumn]

It also matters because we are true fans who expect our team to get the respect they deserve.

[MarylandSooner]

Someone please tell how in the heck Wake Forest jumps us and moves up to 14 from 18 after beating a terrible Florida State team. Give me a break.

[snp]

We lost to Oregon. Get over it. None of the voters forgot about it, but the game is on record as a loss. It'd set a terrible precedent if they ignored our record.


It also matters because we are true fans who expect our team to get the respect they deserve.

Are you implying that I'm not as good of a fan as you because I don't irrationaly hate all media sources like some of you other OU fans?

[Crucifax Autumn]

No, I'm saying that as true fans we should ALWAYS want our team to be respected and treated fairly.

[snp]

I think OU with a healthy Peterson and Patrick could take on most teams when Bowl season comes around. But the numbers speak for themselves.

[Crucifax Autumn]

And those numbers are why I spend so much time cheering against all these other teams, not some deep seeded hatred.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Well, that's because WF is the greatest team ever...a football powerhouse!

[trwxxa]

Wisconsin is the one I really don't understand. Six spots for beating an over rated Iowa team by three points?

This is why you throw out the human polls when it comes to the BCS

[Soonerus]

I think LSU is still getting sympathy votes

[Crucifax Autumn]

Sympathy for what? Having the bastard child of Billy Bob Thorton and James Carville as a coach?

[Crucifax Autumn]

I've long been an advocate of throwing the humans out of most everything.

[OUDoc]

We lost to Oregon. Get over it.

No. We lost AT Oregon. Subtle difference, but it makes me sleep better.

[UTsucks]

Teams I am 100% sure we would beat:

Auburn
Wake
Boise State
Louisvlle
LSU
Rutgers

So, they way I look at it, we should be ranked around 9 or 10 if not for the Oregon ordeal.

DUDE PUT THE PIPE DOWN!

[Crucifax Autumn]

Don't need a pipe to agree with 8 Times on that one.

[badger]

they REALLY hate Wisconsin.:rolleyes:
punk.

keep in mind the bcs rules dictate that no more than TWO teams go to bcs games from each conference. that knocks wisconsin out, because michigan and ohio state will hog the two spots if big 10 sends two.

oh yeah, and remember that this is how texas got screwed the year ksu won the big 12, so don't hate on that rule too much.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Let's get this straight...When it happens to Texas it's not getting screwed, it's justice and karma.

[Texas Golfer]

We're the only team this year to win a game....and drop five places in doing so. We "lose" to a ranked Oregon team in Autzen Stadium by a single point on bad officiating and they move up six spots while we drop two more.

We've won five straight games (two of them ranked at the time and three of them ranked at one point) and moved up six places during that five game stretch.

Can you say "no respect"? I thought you could.

[GreenSooner]

Wisconsin is the one I really don't understand. Six spots for beating an over rated Iowa team by three points?

This is why you throw out the human polls when it comes to the BCS

How about throwing out the BCS and let the humans (the ones in pads and helmets) decide a REAL National Championship on the field in a playoff system?

[OldGuyinStudentSection]

Since moving Reggie Smith to SS and starting Marcus and Lendy at CB for the Middle Tennessee State game, OU is giving up an NCAA best 222ypg over the last 7 games.

This defense is for real.

Next week should be a cakewalk. Bell is out for the year at QB and they have no running game.

AD will be back for the Pokes game and the offense should come close to matching the defense's potency if he's 100% healthy. If OU holds onto the ball we are 10-2 awaiting either a bowl opponent or Nebraska in the Big XII Championship.

Once AD is back in the lineup and proves he's healthy, the pollsters will again see OU as a contender. Many of the teams ranked ahead of us square off in the next 2 weeks. At 10-2 with 7 straight victories to close the regular season, the Sooners should have a good shot at a BCS at-large berth.

[TUSooner]

The N.O. Times-Picayune has 2 voters. One has OU at 10, and the other has us at... 24 :eek:

go figure

[SoonerTerry]

At this point all I hope for or care about is winning out, getting a good bowl opponent, and the poundin the living SH*T out of them. Then next year continue to pound one opponent after the next, untill the talking heads have no choice but to give the respect and ranking we have earned.

JMHO

[RADsooner]

wake forrest shuts out a VERY mediocre florida state and look at the jump they made. :mad:

[sendbaht]

Well, on the positive side, I remember early in the year when we won a game we dropped in the polls, so I like this moving up one at a time much better.:rolleyes:

[Dio]

The N.O. Times-Picayune has 2 voters. One has OU at 10, and the other has us at... 24 :eek:

go figure

He's just ****ed because we support the Hornets more than NOLA ever did. ;)

[strangedude]

OU should sit tight, Take care of Baylor and OSU, then sue the PAC10 for the difference of $$$ from a lesser bowl and a BCS berth. The entire BIG12 should join the lawsuit as it affects them all.
Every OU fan in America should call ESPN and express how the media should be backing the Sooners as the best "2 loss team"..
and... They should root for A & M over the shorthorns.

[MiccoMacey]

Win out, and it doesn't matter. All these teams ahead of us will be playing each other in bowl games and we will pass some.

If we make it into the top ten by the end of the year, I'd say this was a great season.

Actually, even if we don't make it into the top ten, I'd say this was a great season considering all that has happened.

[BudSooner]

I've long been an advocate of throwing the humans out of most everything.
Get your hands off my poll you filthy human!!:D

[MiccoMacey]

There are 12 teams that are either undefeated or only have one loss.

Every member on this board would be threatening a lawsuit if we were a one loss team jumped by a two loss team.

So the best we should expect right now is 13th. And considering Texas beat us, really our best argument is 14th. Right now we are 16th, with only Auburn and LSU ahead of us.

We're not being as disrespected as some of you are making us out to be.