Offical Electrion Results thread

[royalfan5]

Fox News has just called the Pennsylvania face for the Democrat which means no more Rick Santorum fun.

[OklahomaTuba]

Its gonna be a good night for the donks.

About time I guess.

[royalfan5]

Fox News has just said the Democrats are out performing late polling.

[royalfan5]

Looks like Corker is going to handle Ford in Tennessee.

[Jerk]

Well that's great! lower the stars and stripes, and raise the hammer and sickle.

[colleyvillesooner]

Gotta love extremism!

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

On the bright side, Allen has a chance in VA.

[Vaevictis]

Well that's great! lower the stars and stripes, and raise the hammer and sickle.

Your guys already have it halfway up the mast. Most recent Soviet America happening: DHS wants to require people -- including citizens -- to have its permission before they can enter or leave the country.

[royalfan5]

Menedez is winning in New Jersey.

[royalfan5]

On the bright side, Allen has a chance in VA.
Which is impressive with as Poorly as Allen's campaign has went.

[OUAndy1807]

I think it's hilarious that anyone thinks either side is any different.

[OklahomaTuba]

Well that's great! lower the stars and stripes, and raise the white flag.

Fixed it for ya. ;)

[Vaevictis]

I think it's hilarious that anyone thinks either side is any different.

One side in charge of White House + Other side with non-veto proof majority in the Congress == No side in charge.

Best possible result.

[OklahomaTuba]

I think it's hilarious that anyone thinks either side is any different.

I can think of a few differences.

[OUAndy1807]

how's that Republican Congress and White House working out on the abortion front?

[trwxxa]

Byrd re-elected in West Virginny. 88 freaking years old.

[Jerk]

Well, guys, I guess it will cost $2,000 more a year to be an American soon.

[OklahomaTuba]

One side in charge of White House + Other side with non-veto proof majority in the Congress == No side in charge.

Best possible result.

Its a good result for people who like Government that can't get anything done, which is me. Less Government is good.

The problem I see is the guy that will be in charge of the purse strings for the house will want to cut off funding for the war, and the guy in charge of the judiciary wants to impeach Bush, and already has a bill filed for it.

[picasso]

Pelosi in charge is the only thing that really scares me.

that and the obvious gloating that will be going on.

[Jerk]

Oh, and f*** DeWine.....he was endorsed by the Brady camp.

[OklahomaTuba]

how's that Republican Congress and White House working out on the abortion front?

Check back with me once the SCOTUS rules on it again. The SCOTUS with an additional conservative on it.

[picasso]

hey btw I actually voted for two Democrats! Edmonson and Scott Bighorse (from up in my parts's's's'sss).

[royalfan5]

Democrats just picked up an Indiana house seat.

[jk the sooner fan]

the sky is falling, the sky is falling

i'm mostly paying attention to the judge race in kingfisher county!

[Vaevictis]

Well, guys, I guess it will cost $2,000 more a year to be an American soon.

In case you haven't noticed, it's already costing us $2,000 more a year to be an American (as compared to when Bush came into office).

National debt has nearly doubled under this administration.

Your share: about $11,000.

Of course, that doesn't count the interest we'll be paying on it. The total bill is actually much higher.

EDIT: Apparently, it's not your family's share. It's a per-citizen share. So if you're married, it's about double that.

[OUAndy1807]

how many pages before this thread is locked? I've got $5 on 12 (40 posts per page)

[royalfan5]

Fox News has already called the Nebraska Senate Race for Nelson(D) even though the polls just closed 10 minuets ago. It looks like Pete Ricketts ****ed away 10 million of his money for naught. If Had 10 million to **** away, I'd wear away my septum before I ran for senate.

[OUAndy1807]

If Had 10 million to **** away, I'd wear away my scrotum before I ran for senate.

gross.

[Vaevictis]

The problem I see is the guy that will be in charge of the purse strings for the house will want to cut off funding for the war

I doubt that will happen. It would be political suicide.

I think you'll see pressure to change course, or at least appear more responsive to actual conditions, but an actual cutting of funding, I doubt it.

You might also see conditional allocation of funding -- jump these hurdles, meet these goals before you get it sort of thing.


, and the guy in charge of the judiciary wants to impeach Bush, and already has a bill filed for it.

If that vote happens any time soon, I expect it'll get shot down. I want to see investigations first to verify that what some of us *think* is going on before anything else happens.

As much as I think Bush's crew was involved in shenanigans, I'm a big fan of due process. Let's gather the evidence before we gather the pitchforks.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Byrd re-elected in West Virginny. 88 freaking years old, and former whiz in the KKK, who used the"N" word twice on an interview with Tim Russert a couple yrs. ago Good old West Virginny!

[royalfan5]

Looks like the Democrats are picking up some Governor's seats as well.

[jeremy885]

Looks like Fighting Joe Lieberman is going win according to CNN. I wonder which way he will go if the Democrats only get 50 seats (not counting him), after the way they treated him in the election.

[royalfan5]

Fox News is Giving Maryland to Cardin(D)

[King Crimson]

Corker's daughter on far right of pic=hottie.

http://www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/110706_election_corker.jpg

[Vaevictis]

Looks like Fighting Joe Lieberman is going win according to CNN. I wonder which way he will go if the Democrats only get 50 seats (not counting him), after the way they treated him in the election.

He's said that he'll caucus with the Dems if he wins.

If that's the case, then it's really no different than before -- caucus with the Dems, vote with the Republicans on a lot of issues.

Both parties get something out of that situation. His caucusing with the Dems gives them control of the commitees -- and commitees decide what the bills say when they hit the floor for a vote. And obviously, the Republicans getting his vote from time to time makes them happy.

[picasso]

Corker's daughter on far right of pic=hottie.

http://www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/110706_election_corker.jpg
Mom ain't bad. so he's giving up his coaching job at Miami huh? good for him.

[NormanPride]

I'm rooting for Diebold to win the House.

[royalfan5]

Whitehouse(D) is now projected to take Chafee(R) senate seat in Rhode Island.

[jeremy885]

He's said that he'll caucus with the Dems if he wins.

If that's the case, then it's really no different than before -- caucus with the Dems, vote with the Republicans on a lot of issues.


Wasn't that before all of the Dems came out against him? He did get alot of support from the Republicans, so unless the Dems give him a chairmanship of a committee, I wouldn't count on his support if I were the Dems.

[Vaevictis]

No, he's said in the past few days that he will caucus with the Dems.

(Whether he will or won't, only time will tell. But, that's what he's said.)

[royalfan5]

Democrats hold Michigan and Delaware Senate seats

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Don't worry Limbaugh said the Dims wouldn't gain that many seats and he is never wrong!!!

[King Crimson]

Rush should be pleased since there will be more liberals to scapegoat and he's much happier in his self-martyred "me against the world" posture.....when he and his minions are persecuted from all sides and "everyone is out to get him" and the last of the free-thinkers who parrot him.

[SoonerTitan]

Repub rule is coming to an end!:pop:

[OUAndy1807]

Repub rule is coming to an end!:pop:
Meet the new boss.....

I can't remember how that ends.

[King Crimson]

Meet the new boss.....

I can't remember how that ends.

heh.

i can't go as far as to say "we won't get fooled again...."

[royalfan5]

It looks like two mammoth Democrat upsets may be brewing in two of the Nebraska house races. The 3rd district hasn't went Democrat since the 50's and Kleeb(D) has an early lead there, and Moul(D) is leading the Incumbent Fortenberry in the 1st District.

[jrsooner]

i can't go as far as to say "we won't get fooled again...."All I know is I voted, so I get to complain about them everyday if the Dems get both house and senate.

My simple rules..
1. If you voted for them - don't complain you got them in.
2. If you voted against them - free for all on the complaining.
3. If you didn't vote - shut up... you gave up your right by not voting. :)

[Jerk]

http://www.goodrock.com/productpics/shirts/thumbs/psim0047.gif
http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/123054/2133621/2141007/060508_Pol_PelosiTN.jpg

hmm...

[SoonerTitan]

Dems need 3 more seats to tke control of the senate.

[Vaevictis]

I will be pleasantly suprised if that happens. But that's 3/4 of the remaining competitive races, which would be a bit of a shocker.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Rush should be pleased since there will be more liberals to scapegoat and he's much happier in his self-martyred "me against the world" posture.....when he and his minions are persecuted from all sides and "everyone is out to get him" and the last of the free-thinkers who parrot him.And when the dims have their 2 yrs to run amok, the nation will have enough of the rug-chewers, and vote the repubs back in.

[OhU1]

Thad Balkman lost tonight.

Ron Kind of Wisconsin is projected to win (Ron Kind/Wrong Kind porn attack ad victim).

[King Crimson]

All I know is I voted, so I get to complain about them everyday if the Dems get both house and senate.

My simple rules..
1. If you voted for them - don't complain you got them in.
2. If you voted against them - free for all on the complaining.
3. If you didn't vote - shut up... you gave up your right by not voting. :)

i think you missed my point....i expect the US political tragi-comedy to shift into another horrible gear...with Dems bungling and Pubs going straight to the lowest common denominator of divisive activity.

[Vaevictis]

JC Watts is one of CNN's talking heads tonight.

[SoonerTitan]

Right or wrong I can see our Soldier's are coming home soon.

[picasso]

Rush should be pleased since there will be more liberals to scapegoat and he's much happier in his self-martyred "me against the world" posture.....when he and his minions are persecuted from all sides and "everyone is out to get him" and the last of the free-thinkers who parrot him.
I haven't listened to him in years but he did fairly well before Clinton and such.

[royalfan5]

Looks like Allen is going to hold on in Virgina,

[jrsooner]

Right or wrong I can see our Soldier's are coming home soon.Or they get stuck overseas with less funding for equipment than they already have.

[jrsooner]

i think you missed my point....i expect the US political tragi-comedy to shift into another horrible gear...with Dems bungling and Pubs going straight to the lowest common denominator of divisive activity.I agree with you for the most part, I was just stating that when they do... I got the right to complain about them. :)

[SoonerTitan]

Or they get stuck overseas with less funding for equipment than they already have.
I don't think they will fund em out I think it will be a gradual pull out. I least I hope.

[King Crimson]

I haven't listened to him in years but he did fairly well before Clinton and such.

he made his name as a political "outsider" on a moribund medium--AM radio--and turned it into a political force with popular appeal. from any objective stnadpoint that's impressive. sure. i'm just saying he's better/happier in full on attack mode. he was the one who said the GOP should take off the gloves this election......now he's got his chance.

[King Crimson]

I agree with you for the most part, I was just stating that when they do... I got the right to complain about them. :)

aw hell ya.

[KABOOKIE]

Victory for Al Queda is happening right before our eyes!

[Al Gore]

Well, guys, I guess it will cost $2,000 more a year to be an American soon.f'ing anti business Demos.....

[picasso]

Victory for Al Queda is happening right before our eyes!
that might be a bit over the top but it's obvious who they want running things ovah heah.

[KABOOKIE]

Maybe, I'll go cry and create some website that says I'm Sorry and apologize to the rest of the world. Maybe, I'll move to Canada. I can't stand to be an American today....................Wait a minute. DON'T WANNA BE A STUPID LEFT COAST IDIOT!!! :D

[FaninAma]

The troops will not be coming home.

The Dems will not take over the Senate.

The sky is not falling.

All in all a pretty weak effort on the Dems part. They will hold the HoR by 5 to 8 seats after 3 years of negative press coverage of the President and the war in Iraq, after the GOP scandals in the HoR and the GOP not getting credit for a good economy.

If the Dems had a message instead of just being against Bush they would have gained 60+ in the HofR and there would be no doubt that they would gain control of the Senate.

I don't even think they are reaching the historic gains that the party out of power usually gets in the midterm election of a lame duck President from the party in power.

BTW, I wonder where Lieberman's allegiance is going to fall after he was totally shat upon by the Democratic party.

[jrsooner]

Maybe, I'll move to Canada. I can't stand to be an American today....................Wait a minute. DON'T WANNA BE A STUPID LEFT COAST IDIOT!!! :DYour logic is flawed... You assume that the Canadians would want someone as intelligent as a Sooner up there. :)

[Jerk]

What will be interesting to see is how these new House Democrats from red states who got elected by running on conservative platforms will act once they actually have power.

[jrsooner]

What will be interesting to see is how these new House Democrats from red states who got elected by running on conservative platforms will act once they actually have power.1st order of business... Pelosi will have congress making a law that only california schools can go the the MNC for college football. :)

[Jerk]

Heh...could you guys imagine the melt-down that would occur if the Dems fell short in both the Senate and House?

You would witness a tantrum like you've never seen.

[KABOOKIE]

Charles Gibson on ABC is killing me. You'd think Monica was blowing his dem loving pecker under that desk of his. Oh wait! It's Snuphaluphagous under there!

[SoonerTitan]

The people of this country are just ready for a change.

[John Kochtoston]

Out of curiosity, who are these people that are voting against allowing liquor stores to open on Election Day? I run in a fairly diverse group, politically at least, and I usually hear a decent split as to who my peeps are voting for. Not one of them has said "Gee, it'd be a shame if they allowed liquor stores to open on Election Day!" In fact, everyone I've talked to is ****ed that the law keeping liquor stores closed on Election Day is there in the first place.

[Jerk]

The people of this country are just ready for a change.

Really? You think they want higher taxes and a bad economy?

[OUAndy1807]

Out of curiosity, who are these people that are voting against allowing liquor stores to open on Election Day? I run in a fairly diverse group, politically at least, and I usually hear a decent split as to who my peeps are voting for. Not one of them has said "Gee, it'd be a shame if they allowed liquor stores to open on Election Day!" In fact, everyone I've talked to is ****ed that the law keeping liquor stores closed on Election Day is there in the first place.
your buddies either need better planning skills or less drinking skills.

[SoonerTitan]

Out of curiosity, who are these people that are voting against allowing liquor stores to open on Election Day? I run in a fairly diverse group, politically at least, and I usually hear a decent split as to who my peeps are voting for. Not one of them has said "Gee, it'd be a shame if they allowed liquor stores to open on Election Day!" In fact, everyone I've talked to is ****ed that the law keeping liquor stores closed on Election Day is there in the first place.
I wonder the states who sell it in the grocery stores do they lock it up as well? We are weak anyway having liquor stores, we are so backward in this state.

[OCUDad]

If you don't like the election results, just work with the ACLU to get them overturned, you big whiner. :rolleyes:

[SoonerTitan]

Really? You think they want higher taxes and a bad economy? Not gonna happen my friend.

[KABOOKIE]

Really? You think they want higher taxes and a bad economy?

No. They just want change. Can you spare some?

[John Kochtoston]

your buddies either need better planning skills or less drinking skills.

The planning thing I'll grant. Drinking has cut way down in the last 3-4 years.

I understand the arguments for keeping the liquor stores closed on Sunday, and having liquor stores at all (not saying I agree with them, but that's another thread). But keeping them closed on Election Day seems more backwards than throwback.

[FaninAma]

The people of this country are just ready for a change.

Not much of a change. Certainly not like the change in 1994.

This is a hiccup in the bigger dempographic trend of the South gainng population and the NE and Rustbelt losing population leading to a weaker Democratic base and a stronger GOP base.

I think the fact that the Dems aren't making even more significant gains is very telling.

[Jerk]

If you don't like the election results, just work with the ACLU to get them overturned, you big whiner. :rolleyes:

The dems are sure to do that if Allen hangs on in VA.

You wait and watch...the crying and accusations will be immense.

[KABOOKIE]

Why aren't Republicans gaining seats? I thought they controled the voting machines?

[picasso]

Why aren't Republicans gaining seats? I thought they controled the voting machines?
only in Flarrida.

[Jerk]

Not much of a change. Certainly not like the change in 1994.

This is a hiccup in the bigger dempographic trend of the South gainng population and the NE and Rustbelt losing population leading to a weaker Democratic base and a stronger GOP base.

I think the fact that the Dems aren't making even more significant gains is very telling.

Exactly....we were told by the MSM that this year was going to be just like 1994, but in favor of the dems. It ain't even close to 1994. 1994 was a revolution. This one is a tantrum.

[SoonerTitan]

The dems are sure to do that if Allen hangs on in VA.

You wait and watch...the crying and accusations will be immense.
Wait till the repubs blame us for tampering with the new voting machines.

[saucysoonergal]

Man, sounds like a bunch of babies crying in this tread. Boo Fricken HOO! ;)

[jrsooner]

Dang! I hate it when that happens. Less than two seconds and Arizona %s flip flop. I'm not complaining it puts Kyl back on top for right now.

[SoonerTitan]

I wonder what's going on with the Sonics vote?

[BeetDigger]

Byrd, Kennedy and Hatch - the best examples yet for term limits.

[Jerk]

Well, I have to go to bed.

Looks like if the dems win, it will be by a slight margine. So nothing gets done for the next 2 years (a good thing) and they are sure to be dumb enough to make Nanci Palossi Speaker of the House, which will give everyone a real nice display of what a liberal moonbat is, and remind the red states why they shouldn't vote dems to the Federal level in 2008. All the actions and quotes from that communist hag will make for some good campaign material in the next election.

[SoonerInKCMO]

It isn't looking good for the stem cell amendment over in Mizzou - down a few tens of thousands with about 40% reporting.

I blame Patricia Heaton. :mad:

[royalfan5]

Heath Shuler is making a triumphant return to Washington.

[SoonerTitan]

Dems will control the house!!

[Sooner_Havok]

Hooray! Looks like Liquor stores will remain closed on election days :rolleyes: If that can't pass, then we have no hope of A) getting real beer B) Having wine in grocery stores. Hooray

[picasso]

Hooray! Looks like Liquor stores will remain closed on election days :rolleyes: If that can't pass, then we have no hope of A) getting real beer B) Having wine in grocery stores. Hooray
I don't understand this. the bars will still be open.

[SoonerTitan]

Hooray! Looks like Liquor stores will remain closed on election days :rolleyes: If that can't pass, then we have no hope of A) getting real beer B) Having wine in grocery stores. Hoorayyep

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

As Stephen Colbert said about drinking on election day "Do you want to wake up in the morning next to some county bond you have never seen before in your life!"

[FaninAma]

Dems will control the house!!

Woop-T-Doo. Not nearly as bad a night for the GOP as I thought it would be. Throw in the fact that a lot of the Dems in the South who won are a lot closer to the GOP that they are to that wild-eyed hag Nancy Pelosi and I don't think the Dem gains amount to much at all.

[Vaevictis]

Some of us just think that the possibility that Congress won't be the White House's pansy assed bitch over the next couple of years is a win for the country.

Oversight is what I've wanted all this time, and maybe, just maybe we will have it.

[picasso]

Some of us just think that the possibility that Congress won't be the White House's pansy assed bitch over the next couple of years is a win for the country.

Oversight is what I've wanted all this time, and maybe, just maybe we will have it.
you might just get impeachment **** right off the bat.

I'm still baffled by the fact that folks think Bush or Clinton or anyone else in the White House can just run roughshod and do as they please. it just doesn't happen like that.

[SoonerTitan]

ahhh don't worry repubs everything is gonna be alright.:(

[Vaevictis]

They can run roughshod... if they're allowed to.

Which the Republicans appeared to have let them do over the past 6 years.

Enough so that the House has probably flipped -- for only the second time in 50 years or so.

People saying that it's not a big deal, that it's not a big win, etc, need to remember that -- the House has only changed parties once in the past 50 years prior to tonight. In that light, it's no small thing.

[Jerk]

I just lost all of my guns in a small boating accident!

[royalfan5]

It looks like Maryland may actually go Republican as some media are pulling their call for Cardin. Also, Webb is closing fast on Allen in Virginia.

[picasso]

They can run roughshod... if they're allowed to.

Which the Republicans appeared to have let them do over the past 6 years.

Enough so that the House has probably flipped -- for only the second time in 50 years or so.

People saying that it's not a big deal, that it's not a big win, etc, need to remember that -- the House has only changed parties once in the past 50 years prior to tonight. In that light, it's no small thing.
how so? there is still checks and balances and I seem to recall Bush losing a few battles along the way.

[nanimonai]

It looks like Maryland may actually go Republican as some media are pulling their call for Cardin. Also, Webb is closing fast on Allen in Virginia.

looks like it's headed for a recount in VA

[Sooner_Havok]

Uh Oh! Liquor on Election day is up by 20,000+ votes!

[King Crimson]

you might just get impeachment **** right off the bat.

I'm still baffled by the fact that folks think Bush or Clinton or anyone else in the White House can just run roughshod and do as they please. it just doesn't happen like that.

in this interview with Stephanopoulos on Sunday, Cheney is pretty clear that his interpretation of the power of the executive branch doesn't need the public mandate of elected officials or public opinion (openly saying the election outcomes don't matter in terms of administration goals in Iraq). which, is fine if that's what you beleive that's necessary I suppose in terms of the GWOT.....but it oversteps the way the system of checks and balances has tradtitionally been understood to have been set up by the framers.

agree or not, i think that's a "theory" of governance that deserves some scrutiny given the constitutional history of the US.....that the executive branch should exercise a kind of autonomy seperate from 1. legislative branch and 2. the american people. these are potentially troubling and somewhat anti-democratic statements from the Vice President. i think that concerns a lot of people....given the controversial (and potentially inconsistant or outright dishonest) way the administration has justified the war.

i don't like Dems or the GOP much, but playing devil's advocate....


http://www.abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/story?id=2629168&page=1

[SoonerInKCMO]

Minimum wage in MO going up to $6.50 with future adjustments tracking with the CPI.

[Vaevictis]

how so? there is still checks and balances and I seem to recall Bush losing a few battles along the way.

Checks and balances only exist if the parties that hold them pursue them aggressively.

Bush has lost a few battles. A very, very few. The fact that he's only vetoed one bill is telling.

Look, I don't feel like going heavy into it, but the fact is, I feel that Congress has been running interference for the President this past 6 years, and I suspect that this feeling is one of the root causes of the change in control of the House.

If the Republicans had done what their platform stated -- instead of caving to Bush's big government, unitary executive, and deficit driven economy demands -- they'd still control the House come January. IMO.

[Jerk]

If 2 wolves and 1 sheep vote on what's for dinner, who do you think is going to win?

That's why I prefer a 'Constitutional Republic' which recognizes individual rights.

King Crimson - if wars are dictated by polls or election results, we aren't going to win.

The Terrorists just won a major victory. You can bet that they are thrilled, and their position in Iraq is much more promising. The Iraqi people are going to be saying "Oh sh**!" when they figure out that we are pulling out. Lot's of people gonna die.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

What will be interesting to see is how these new House Democrats from red states who got elected by running on conservative platforms will act once they actually have power.They will tow the dim line, or be punished severely.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

If 2 wolves and 1 sheep vote on what's for dinner, who do you think is going to win?

That's why I prefer a 'Constitutional Republic' which recognizes individual rights.

King Crimson - if wars are dictated by polls or election results, we aren't going to win.

The Terrorists just won a major victory. You can bet that they are thrilled, and their position in Iraq is much more promising. The Iraqi people are going to be saying "Oh sh**!" when they figure out that we are pulling out. Lot's of people gonna die.

Alot pf people are going to die? Haven't alot of people already died. And do you honestly think Al Qaeda is in a cave going "YES!! NANCY!!!"

[olevetonahill]

I just lost all of my guns in a small boating accident!
Guns ? what guns ? Ive never had one :P

[hurricane'bone]

I wonder what's going on with the Sonics vote?


With 32% counted, I-91 is passing.

[Vaevictis]

Virginia seems to be swinging for Webb at this point. 100% of Allen's counties have reported, and Webb has a very small lead.

It's headed for a recount either way.

[SoonerTitan]

If 2 wolves and 1 sheep vote on what's for dinner, who do you think is going to win?

That's why I prefer a 'Constitutional Republic' which recognizes individual rights.

King Crimson - if wars are dictated by polls or election results, we aren't going to win.

The Terrorists just won a major victory. You can bet that they are thrilled, and their position in Iraq is much more promising. The Iraqi people are going to be saying "Oh sh**!" when they figure out that we are pulling out. Lot's of people gonna die.At least are children (and yes most of them are just kids) will not be sent to die anymore. We have supposedly trained them to defend themselves so let em.

[hurricane'bone]

Minimum wage in MO going up to $6.50 with future adjustments tracking with the CPI.


Same type of deal in Arizona.

[SoonerTitan]

With 32% counted, I-91 is passing.
Well I guess there goes that deal.

[PhxSooner]

Same type of deal in Arizona.
I'm surprised it passed by as much as it did. Blech.

[KaiserSooner]

Some of us just think that the possibility that Congress won't be the White House's pansy assed bitch over the next couple of years is a win for the country.

Oversight is what I've wanted all this time, and maybe, just maybe we will have it.

Exactly.

[Jerk]

Get ready for Amnesty for 200,000,000,000,000 illegals. They'll consolidate power and they got a source for more votes from south of the Rio Grande.

If you are married, say hello again to the marriage tax.

If you own guns, YOU are going to be a criminal, a terrorists, and an enemy of the state. I'd suggest buying as much mags and ammo as you can afford right now. Even you hunters with bolt action deer guns=- that's a SNIPER rifle in their eyes.

If you are a small business owner, get ready to get bent over a barrel- by as much as 5k a year.

Capital gains taxes will sky-rocket.

Spending will go through the roof on entitlement programs...that's how they get their votes.

[hurricane'bone]

Wow.

Arizona has some interesting props on the ballot.

link (http://www.azcentral.com/elections/)

[Jerk]

And do you honestly think Al Qaeda is in a cave going "YES!! NANCY!!!"


YES. She will defund the war and AQ will win in Iraq.

The Iraqis who are our allies will be slaughtered once we pull out.

I'll remind you of this once it happens.

[KaiserSooner]

Anyone else notice Wes Lane loses the DA race to David Prater by something like a couple hundred votes?

[KaiserSooner]

Looks like Jim Webb has pulled ahead of George Allen in Virginia with 99% of precincts reporting.

[nanimonai]

Get ready for Amnesty for 200,000,000,000,000 illegals. They'll consolidate power and they got a source for more votes from south of the Rio Grande.

If you are married, say hello again to the marriage tax.

If you own guns, YOU are going to be a criminal, a terrorists, and an enemy of the state. I'd suggest buying as much mags and ammo as you can afford right now. Even you hunters with bolt action deer guns=- that's a SNIPER rifle in their eyes.

If you are a small business owner, get ready to get bent over a barrel- by as much as 5k a year.

Capital gains taxes will sky-rocket.

Spending will go through the roof on entitlement programs...that's how they get their votes.


200 trillion illegals? damn that's a lot

[KaiserSooner]

If you own guns, YOU are going to be a criminal, a terrorists, and an enemy of the state.

Tell that to the 56% of the Montana electorate who voted for Jon Tester, the evil Democrat up there for U.S. Senate.

[Jerk]

Damnit, we lost the Cold War afterall.

From within.

[Jerk]

Tell that to the 56% of the Montana electorate who voted for Jon Tester, the evil Democrat up there for U.S. Senate.

Cool. Maybe Tester will fillabuster any new gun control legistlation.

[Vaevictis]

Damnit, we lost the Cold War afterall.

From within.

Not yet. The Republicans have been trying their damnest, but it looks like this election might put a stop to it.

[Vaevictis]

And you keep freaking out over gun control legislation, but maybe you want to remember that Bush still has the ability to veto, and Dems don't have a supermajority.

That means that unless Bush flips on you, there won't be any new gun control legislation.

Are you anticipating that Bush is going to flip on you? No? Then chill out.

[olevetonahill]

At least are children (and yes most of them are just kids) will not be sent to die anymore. We have supposedly trained them to defend themselves so let em.
Not taking sides here at all. but How in hell are "OUR " children Trained to defend themselves ?
Oh and last Time I looked it was ALL volunteer Military :eek:
I got drafted , I went, I served , I came home :cool:
I got trained to defend Myself in Basic , and as an added bonus I got trained to "defend " you ;)

[royalfan5]

FoxNews people are acting like somebody punted their puppy. They are placing alot of the blame for the results on Republicans not listening to the people.

[SoonerTitan]

Not taking sides here at all. but How in hell are "OUR " children Trained to defend themselves ?
Oh and last Time I looked it was ALL volunteer Military :eek:
I got drafted , I went, I served , I came home :cool:
I got trained to defend Myself in Basic , and as an added bonus I got trained to "defend " you ;)First off thank you for your service from my heart. My grandparents serverd in WWII and my uncle during the nam era and I respect them and all who serve very much. No I meant we trained the Iraqi's to defend themselves so we should let em handle it. It's time to slowly pull out now.

[nanimonai]

FoxNews people are acting like somebody punted their puppy. They are placing alot of the blame for the results on Republicans not listening to the people.

It's looking a lot like a Mike Gundy postgame news conference over at Fox.

[Vaevictis]

No I meant we trained the Iraqi's to defend themselves so we should let em handle it. It's time to slowly pull out now.

Meh, that's Vietnamization, and you know where that leads.

I don't want to stay the course, but I think withdrawal would be premature at this point.

I want to see Bush and his crew taken to task and challenged, and maybe, just maybe, we'll come up with a path that works going forward in Iraq. They've been allowed to sit on their laurels too long.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

YES. She will defund the war and AQ will win in Iraq.

The Iraqis who are our allies will be slaughtered once we pull out.

I'll remind you of this once it happens.

There is something kind of ironic about a guy who doesn't want to limit hate minded militia groups from stock piling weapons or even restricting who can say buy a rocket launcher. As long as you can have 50 guns it doesn't matter the problems that would arise from a group of 5,000 skinheads having enough guns to kill every dark skinned person north of the Mason Dixon line but now you are concerned for the welfare of people that life half a world away. And do you honestly they are going to push through any laws in the next two years...Bush will veto everything that comes up the hill.

[SoonerTitan]

Meh, that's Vietnamization, and you know where that leads.

I don't want to stay the course, but I think withdrawal would be premature at this point.

I want to see Bush and his crew taken to task and challenged, and maybe, just maybe, we'll come up with a path that works going forward in Iraq. They've been allowed to sit on their laurels too long.
but man that was an unwinable war just like this one. We will never stablize that country unless we split it up into two parts if that even works.

[PhxSooner]

But don't the tax cuts expire without renewal? Sorry, not thrilled about that.

Ideally, with such a split government, nothing will happen of any consequence for the next two years, and we can focus our energies on football, as we should.;)

[Vaevictis]

but man that was an unwinable war just like this one. We will never stablize that country unless we split it up into two parts if that even works.

I am not entirely convinced that the war is unwinnable. I Think the window is closing, but I don't think it is quite shut.

If we can win it, we need to try. And that includes splitting the country into THREE parts -- which I think would be more successful than just two. Kurdish, Shiite and Sunni -- with revenue sharing from the oil.

If we can't, I agree with you.

[KaiserSooner]

Geez. You know the GOP is in trouble when they are losing seats to Democrats in Kansas and Arizona.

[SoonerTitan]

I am not entirely convinced that the war is unwinnable. I Think the window is closing, but I don't think it is quite shut.

If we can win it, we need to try. And that includes splitting the country into THREE parts -- which I think would be more successful than just two. Kurdish, Shiite and Sunni -- with revenue sharing from the oil.

If we can't, I agree with you.
Not a bad idea with three and the oil but how you keep them from warring with each other will be a challenge no matter how you slice it.

[picasso]

but man that was an unwinable war just like this one. We will never stablize that country unless we split it up into two parts if that even works.
Vietnam being unwinable is debatable. did we underestimate their will and fight? yes.
could we have bombed them into next week and cut off their port supplies? yes but we didn't.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0743246136.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
a great read.

[sooneron]

Vietnam being unwinable is debatable. did we underestimate their will and fight? yes.
could we have bombed them into next week and cut off their port supplies? yes but we didn't.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0743246136.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
a great read.
You are correct sir!!

[sooneron]

This Va Senate race is friggin crazy!

[Vaevictis]

But don't the tax cuts expire without renewal? Sorry, not thrilled about that.

I don't like higher taxes, but I don't mind them as long as they're spent reasonably. (That, of course, is the rub...)

I really want to see the budget balanced and kept in the positive so we can start paying down the debt. I would like to see a balance of expenditure reduction and tax increases to make this happen.

In the long run, deficits lead to higher taxes because you have to pay ever higher amounts of interest. Right now, I think we're paying around 7% of our federal dollars on that interest. That only goes up as you assume debt.

[Vaevictis]

Not a bad idea with three and the oil but how you keep them from warring with each other will be a challenge no matter how you slice it.

You can't keep them from warring with each other once we leave. That's up to them. All we can do is give them a chance not to once we've left.

[sooneron]

JC keeps taking the high road. I wish he would run for Pres.

[sooneron]

Actually, I think Iraq is ripe for what was done to Yugoslavia. Divvy it up.

[SoonerTitan]

Vietnam being unwinable is debatable. did we underestimate their will and fight? yes.
could we have bombed them into next week and cut off their port supplies? yes but we didn't.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0743246136.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
a great read.Our will was gone in the end it was too late but we could have done just that in the beginning. Have to check out the book.

[olevetonahill]

Vietnam being unwinable is debatable. did we underestimate their will and fight? yes.
could we have bombed them into next week and cut off their port supplies? yes but we didn't.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0743246136.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
a great read.
YMSSRA damnit

[olevetonahill]

All I can say was we were WINING when I left

[royalfan5]

Looks like VA is turning into a cluster****

[Mongo]

All I can say was we were WINING when I left

That is why the outcome is questionable, we pulled our starters in the first quarter.

[jrsooner]

First off thank you for your service from my heart. My grandparents serverd in WWII and my uncle during the nam era and I respect them and all who serve very much. No I meant we trained the Iraqi's to defend themselves so we should let em handle it. It's time to slowly pull out now.Well since it seems like a contest...
Grandfather-in-law - WW1 Doughboy
Father - WW2, Korea and Vietnam
Sister - Served during Vietnam but not stationed in 'Nam
Bro-in-law - Served during both Gulf campaigns
Nephew - 2 tours of duty in Iraq
Nephew - early enlistment into the Marine Corps - basic next summer

Now I just think of the following:
1. We should withdraw from Germany... we got them a standing police force after 40+ years.
2. We should withdraw from Japan ... they have a standing police force to protect them after 40+ years.
3. Why are we still in Korea???? Heck it's been a cease fire for how many years?

Dems don't want a slow pullout, they want an immediate pullout. I remember watching a news show this year, if I remember correctly the guy was a leader from Iran. His comment was something along the line of "we'll just wait until they are voted out, and then we can take what we want". That's exactly what is going to happen. It seems like America is a becoming a pansy of a nation, and I wouldn't be surprise if they try to put Fran in charge. Don't take a hard stand, take the safe way out. Sometimes the safe way isn't the best way.

I don't prefer any more deaths either, but we can't leave that area in a vacuum either.

[jrsooner]

I don't like higher taxes, but I don't mind them as long as they're spent reasonably. (That, of course, is the rub...)That's the difference... you wouldn't mind paying higher taxes, and I hate having to pay higher taxes. There is no reason to make us pay higher taxes. Cut the pork out and you'll have a ton of money left.

[jrsooner]

Tennessee was just called for Republicans.

[sooneron]

Tennessee was just called for Republicans.
Shocker

[Vaevictis]

There is no reason to make us pay higher taxes.

IMO, war is a good reason to pay higher taxes. So is paying down the debt, so we can permanently lower taxes down the road.


Cut the pork out and you'll have a ton of money left.

I agree that the pork needs to be cut.

It won't happen though, because everyone wants the other guy's pork cut, not his own.

Like I said: combination of higher taxes and expenditure cuts, just like Bill's guys and Newt's guys managed to work out.

[sooneron]

Taxes need to be lower, not higher. This whole idea of paying a corp to do things instead of the gubment figuring out a better way sucks.

[olevetonahill]

Well since it seems like a contest...
Grandfather-in-law - WW1 Doughboy
Father - WW2, Korea and Vietnam
Sister - Served during Vietnam but not stationed in 'Nam
Bro-in-law - Served during both Gulf campaigns
Nephew - 2 tours of duty in Iraq
Nephew - early enlistment into the Marine Corps - basic next summer

Now I just think of the following:
1. We should withdraw from Germany... we got them a standing police force after 40+ years.
2. We should withdraw from Japan ... they have a standing police force to protect them after 40+ years.
3. Why are we still in Korea???? Heck it's been a cease fire for how many years?

Dems don't want a slow pullout, they want an immediate pullout. I remember watching a news show this year, if I remember correctly the guy was a leader from Iran. His comment was something along the line of "we'll just wait until they are voted out, and then we can take what we want". That's exactly what is going to happen. It seems like America is a becoming a pansy of a nation, and I wouldn't be surprise if they try to put Fran in charge. Don't take a hard stand, take the safe way out. Sometimes the safe way isn't the best way.

I don't prefer any more deaths either, but we can't leave that area in a vacuum either.
Son it aint a contest :eek:
I can trace my family back to the Revolution :eek:
But I agree the easy fast way aint the best way . All Im saying is if we pull out to soon then weve tossed away another bunch of young GIs
Yall say your welcome homes and shat to me now but where were your folks and others when I did come home ?
just sayin

[Rhino]

offical? electrion?

How come "Results" and "thread" weren't misspelled also?

[SoonerTitan]

Sorry guys I meant no harm with past family military history.

[TopDawg]

Dems don't want a slow pullout, they want an immediate pullout.

Who is this "Dems" you speak of, and how do you know what he want?

[sanantoniosooner]

I was avoiding this thread because I thought it was political, but I just notice it said "Electrion Results" instead of Election.

So what's up with our Electrion?

[jrsooner]

Yall say your welcome homes and shat to me now but where were your folks and others when I did come home ?
just sayinAs far back since I was a wee lad and a sparkle in me momma's eye, my family has always reached out to the vets and soldiers coming home. That heritage that was impressed on me is being passed down to my boys. In fact, my 7 year old's goal in life is to become a tank commander right now. I can't remember a time when my folks didn't open their house to members of our forces.

[TopDawg]

I was avoiding this thread because I thought it was political, but I just notice it said "Electrion Results" instead of Election.

So what's up with our Electrion?

9 pages of posts and you missed the joke by 4 minutes. DANG!

[jrsooner]

So what's up with our Electrion?Electrions are those funny boxes that are rigged to vote for the other fellow. :)

[jrsooner]

Who is this "Dems" you speak of, and how do you know what he want?They tol' me after they mugged me and took my wallet. :)

[TopDawg]

Corker is an unfortunate last name.

[olevetonahill]

Sorry guys I meant no harm with past family military history.
No harm at all :cool:

[jrsooner]

Sorry guys I meant no harm with past family military history.None taken...plus olvetonahill has us beaten...he goes back over 200 years.

[olevetonahill]

Now I gotta a ?
(sides Imdrunk and shat )
How many Know what it was like for a Nam vet to come home in the 60s and early 70s ?
and with that ? im gonna go play poker or something cause im to drunk to keep posting and to sobre to pass out :eek:

[olevetonahill]

None taken...plus olvetonahill has us beaten...he goes back over 200 years.
WHOA Im old but I aint that dam old :D

[Vaevictis]

How many Know what it was like for a Nam vet to come home in the 60s and early 70s ?

Pretty crappy, I bet. 'Tweren't like WWII, that's for sure.

My understanding is that you were lucky if you didn't get crapped on by someone.

[SoonerTitan]

Pretty crappy, I bet. 'Tweren't like WWII, that's for sure.I second that.

[SoonerTitan]

WHOA Im old but I aint that dam old :Dlol!

[Vaevictis]

Well, it must have been. You'll notice how ashamed we are as a culture of our behavior in that regard.

[olevetonahill]

Well, it must have been. You'll notice how ashamed we are as a culture of our behavior in that regard.
Thats why I say Support OUR troops give em the parades and ALL they are due
But leave US the **** alone :eek:
Yes Im a bitter ole man . aw **** it

[Vaevictis]

Hey man, if parades float your boat, I say you get em.

If it were me, I'd rather get a raise, better health care at the VA and other than that, be left the f*ck alone. :)

I think all of that could be managed, though; they're not mutually exclusive.

[TopDawg]

I love a parade.

[Vaevictis]

Cripes. A Dem won DeLay's seat.

[Frozen Sooner]

Looks like McCaskill is going to pull it off in Missouri-she's got a slim lead but the only precincts left are in St. Louis, which is heavy for her.

Montana is the last stand for a GOP Senate, and the Democrat leads by 4% at last count.

[King Crimson]

on FOX they are saying it will come down to the morning and most likely Virginia.

[Frozen Sooner]

Virginia is going to get a recount, but I don't see a 2700-vote lead going away in a recount unless the initial count was just awful.

[Frozen Sooner]

Make that a 5500 vote lead.

And McCaskill has started to pull away in MO. Up to a 4 point lead with 88% reporting.

[Frozen Sooner]

Spoke too soon. McCaskill down to a 1 point lead with 89% reporting. Man, that must have been a pretty heavy Talent 1% :D

[Vaevictis]

Talent just semi-conceded.

[Vaevictis]

Almost +12k for Webb in Virginia now.

[Frozen Sooner]

Tester still hanging on in MT.

MO is all done but the shouting, I think.

That recount in VA is going to be nuts...

[Sam Spade]

Well, guys, I guess it will cost $2,000 more a year to be an American soon.

Do you get mad at your wife when she says it's time to start making payments on all your maxed out credit cards, too?

[jrsooner]

Cripes. A Dem won DeLay's seat.
He'll be out next election...

Nick Lampson (DEM) 75,882 52%
Shelley Sekula Gibbs (WI) (REP) 61,496 42%

He won by only 14,000 against a write in ballot. He'll be out next election that he has to run.

[jrsooner]

Backtreading has already started...
They talked to the #2 guy behind Pelosi, on FoxNews this morning, about what is their plan on Iraq actually is. Sounds like business as usual, he gave the mumbo jumbo texas two step speech. Basically, they don't know what to do is what came out of it. No meat behind their words.

[Harry Beanbag]

Geez. You know the GOP is in trouble when they are losing seats to Democrats in Kansas and Arizona.


Arizona has changed a lot in the last 6 or 7 years with all the people moving here from out of state.

[Jerk]

Do you get mad at your wife when she says it's time to start making payments on all your maxed out credit cards, too?

No, but I'd get real mad if she took part of my paycheck to give it to her buddies who don't work.

[Chuck Bao]

Getting closer.

Montana Senate Race
91% of precincts reporting
Jon Tester (DEM) 174,045 49%
Conrad Burns (REP)* 172,302 48%

[Chuck Bao]

And closer...

Montana Senate Race
96% of precincts reporting
Jon Tester (DEM) 183,386 49%
Conrad Burns (REP)* 181,879 49%

[Chuck Bao]

Looks like the dims are just gonna take a knee and wait for the clock to expire.

Montana Senate Race
99% of precincts reporting
Jon Tester (DEM) 190,486 49%
Conrad Burns (REP)* 188,900 49%

[TopDawg]

No, but I'd get real mad if she took part of my paycheck to give it to her buddies who don't work.

Would you get real mad if she took part of your paycheck to pay off outrageous contracts she worked out with her already rich buddies?

[SoonerInKCMO]

It isn't looking good for the stem cell amendment over in Mizzou - down a few tens of thousands with about 40% reporting.

I blame Patricia Heaton. :mad:

Looks like I spoke too soon and the initiative will probably win.

The opponents of this amendment are absolutely shameless...

From today's KC Star

Jaci Winship, executive director of the lead opposition group, Missourians Against Human Cloning, said the big wild card was a glitch in Jasper County, where 40,000 votes would not be counted until today. “I still go back to where we started out,” she said. “We faced a $30 million deceptive ad campaign and had ballot language that was misleading. We’ve had people call today who voted ‘yes’ because they thought it banned human cloning.”

Implying, of course, that she thinks it doesn't ban human cloning. And that proponents lied to Missourians by saying that it does.

Here's part of the text of the amendment.

Section 38(d). 1. This section shall be known as the “ Missouri Stem Cell Research and Cures Initiative.”

2. To ensure that Missouri patients have access to stem cell therapies and cures, that Missouri researchers can conduct stem cell research in the state, and that all such research is conducted safely and ethically, any stem cell research permitted under federal law may be conducted in Missouri, and any stem cell therapies and cures permitted under federal law may be provided to patients in Missouri, subject to the requirements of federal law and only the following additional limitations and requirements:

(1) No person may clone or attempt to clone a human being.


Looks pretty cut and dried to me.

[usmc-sooner]

Would you get real mad if she took part of your paycheck to pay off outrageous contracts she worked out with her already rich buddies?

I hope this isn't about Haliburton because Clinton gave them that contract.

[SoonerInKCMO]

Patricia Heaton yapping about people exploiting women by paying them for eggs:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nguJQ_dRPXw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nguJQ_dRPXw)

Amendment language:

4) No person may, for valuable consideration, purchase or sell human blastocysts or eggs for stem cell research or stem cell therapies and cures.

[Ike]

I don't know if anyone has posted this because I am not gonna read this whole thread, and I really don't know if anyone cares...But in Illinois:

Our crook of a governor won, taking 49.xx% of the vote. The republican challenger took 39.yy% of of the vote (seriously, she ran a terrible campaign), and the green party challenger took 10.zz%.

In the house, every single incumbent won :rolleyes:

the two vacated house seats were split. One going to a dem, Phil Hare, and the other going to a repub, Peter Roskam. I'm a little dissapointed that Roskam won, not because he is a republican, but because my wife and I had an encounter with him once when we asked his about an issue that was of only minor importance to my wife. He did such a bad job of explaining his position (after some thought, one could find some logic behind it, but it was not simple to do, nor was it obvious from his explanation) and in his explanation, he came dangerously close to labeling Native Americans as terrorists. This was 2 or 3 years ago, and for posterity, we still have the message he left on our answering machine. So here's hoping he grows a brain.

[Sam Spade]

No, but I'd get real mad if she took part of my paycheck to give it to her buddies who don't work.
Huh...

You realize that what you just said has nothing to do with the point I made, don't you?

[MamaMia]

The DA candidate here in town, who I extremely do not like, lost. They call him Stake the snake. :D

[Sam Spade]

The Terrorists just won a major victory. You can bet that they are thrilled, and their position in Iraq is much more promising. The Iraqi people are going to be saying "Oh sh**!" when they figure out that we are pulling out. Lot's of people gonna die.
Yeah.

Because the war was going so badly for them. There are barely any terrorists left in Iraq. Osama Bin Ladin is in custody. Our dependence on foreign oil has lessened significantly. Pro-American sentiments are at an all time high in the region.

Yeah. Bush was doing a BANG UP job in Iraq.

The terrorists must be THRILLED at their victory.

:rolleyes:

[jk the sooner fan]

whats up LAS?

[Sam Spade]

Eeeeh! Close, but no cigar, JK.