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OklahomaTuba
10/25/2006, 12:52 PM
Great music BTW.

Nice to see SOMEONE take Greenday to task though.


The Killers 'offended' by Green Day
Brandon Flowers doesn't want to be an 'American Idiot'
Brandon Flowers has criticised Green Day for what he sees as their calculated anti-Americanism.

In particular, Flowers singled out the track 'American Idiot' and the fact they filmed their DVD 'Bullet In A Bible', which features the song, in the UK.

"You have Green Day and 'American Idiot'. Where do they film their DVD? In England," The Killers' frontman told The Word. "A bunch of kids screaming 'I don't want to be an American idiot' I saw it as a very negative thing towards Americans. It really lit a fire in me."

Explaining he was offended by the set-up, Flowers added: "You have the right to say what you want to say and what you want to write about, and I'm sure they meant it in the same way that Bruce Springsteen meant 'Born In The USA' and it was taken wrongly, but I was really offended when I saw them do that."

The singer added he felt the DVD was a bit of a a stunt.

"I just thought it was really cheap," he explained. "To go to a place like England or Germany and sing that song - those kids aren't taking it the same way that he meant it. And he [Billie Joe Armstrong] knew it."

The Killers' frontman said he believed that his band's new album 'Sam's Town' is a much better representation of America.

"People need to see that, really, there are the nicest people in the world here!" he declared. "I don't know if our album makes you realise that. But I hope it's from a more positive place."

http://www.nme.com/news/the-killers/24702

Osce0la
10/25/2006, 12:55 PM
I don't blame them for recording the DVD there, that was one of the biggest shows they've done in their career...

bri
10/25/2006, 12:59 PM
The Killers' frontman said he believed that his band's new album 'Sam's Town' is a much better representation of America.

What, plodding, uneven and overrated?

KC//CRIMSON
10/25/2006, 01:00 PM
Those damn Killers!

colleyvillesooner
10/25/2006, 01:00 PM
What, plodding, uneven and overrated?

heh

JohnnyMack
10/25/2006, 01:03 PM
What, plodding, uneven and overrated?

Maybe you should spend more time in the gym then.

Xstnlsooner
10/25/2006, 01:07 PM
The thing about our opinions is that they are [I]our[I] opinions
and we all have this self-inflated idea that ours are better
than everyone else's>

crawfish
10/25/2006, 01:13 PM
The thing about our opinions is that they are [I]our[I] opinions
and we all have this self-inflated idea that ours are better
than everyone else's>

That's patently untrue. Only mine are better.

Rhino
10/25/2006, 03:23 PM
Now, check out my sweet pornstache!

http://www.vh1.com/shared/promoimages/bands/k/killers_the/trl_092606/281x211.jpg

Rhino
10/25/2006, 03:33 PM
And to be perfectly honest, he's been taking pot shots at crappy emo bands for the past couple years. None of those worked at drumming up the controversy and boost album sales, so I guess he decided to step it up a level.

I don't know that their two-and-a-half hits and new craptastic album qualify them to do that.

Link (http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1543249/20061016/killers_the.jhtml?headlines=true)

yermom
10/25/2006, 04:02 PM
well, Green Day kinda turned into a crappy emo band, so that isn't much of a stretch ;)

GrapevineSooner
10/25/2006, 04:09 PM
I base my like or dislike for a band depending on the music they put out. And not necessarily based upon their political opinions.

As such, I don't have a problem with Green Day's American Idiot or the fact they chose to release a DVD based upon a concert in England.

SicEmBaylor
10/25/2006, 04:22 PM
I find it somewhat distasteful.
I couldn't give three ****s to the wind on what they say or how they say it here, but going overseas and saying it is another thing. Having punk *** Eurotrash scream "I don't want to be an American idiot" is infinitely worse.

Rhino
10/25/2006, 04:35 PM
You guys are right.

The DVD is just Green Day playing that ONE SONG over and over for two hours.

Scott D
10/25/2006, 04:37 PM
well obviously Rhino....just like after Democrats got done using Michael J Fox they took him into the kitchen to make Margaritas.

OUAndy1807
10/25/2006, 04:41 PM
who cares? Green Day sucks; they always have and they always will.

I wonder what Blink 182's views are on the trade deficit? They're about as qualified to talk about that as Green Day is to make any kind of social commentary. It always blew my mind how these "punks" had all the answers when it came to society and government.

PhilTLL
10/25/2006, 04:50 PM
Stupid: Musicians talking politics. Stupider: Anyone paying attention to them.

49r
10/25/2006, 04:54 PM
I wonder what Tuba's stand on the Dixie Chicks is?

U2?

Madonna?

Mel Gibson?

Kirk Gibson?

Debbie Gibson?

Kirk Cameron?

Cameron Diaz?

Brett Favre?

OUAndy1807
10/25/2006, 04:57 PM
I wonder what Tuba's stand on the Dixie Chicks is?

U2?

Madonna?

Mel Gibson?

Kirk Gibson?

Debbie Gibson?

Kirk Cameron?

Cameron Diaz?

Brett Favre?
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bri
10/25/2006, 05:37 PM
Stupid: Musicians talking politics. Stupider: Anyone paying attention to them.

Even MORE STUPIDEST: Musicians paying attention to other musicians talking politics. :D

proud gonzo
10/25/2006, 06:13 PM
I think it's funny that this is an issue. Die Prinzen (a German band) have a satirical song called "Deutschland" making fun of the country and Germans treat it like an anthem. Since when is critiquing your nation a bad thing? Shouldn't be that a good thing--a sign that you actually give a **** and care enough to pay attention?

OUAndy1807
10/25/2006, 06:33 PM
was it a song ribbing the country, or is it a preachy anthem about how dumb the rest of the country is?

bri
10/25/2006, 06:34 PM
I think it's funny that this is an issue. Die Prinzen (a German band) have a satirical song called "Deutschland" making fun of the country and Germans treat it like an anthem. Since when is critiquing your nation a bad thing? Shouldn't be that a good thing--a sign that you actually give a **** and care enough to pay attention?

Well yeah, but Germany doesn't have the First Amendment, so it's probably still novel to them. :D

Scott D
10/25/2006, 07:36 PM
Well yeah, but Germany doesn't have the First Amendment, so it's probably still novel to them. :D

Yes but clearly Tuba aspires to be French, since that's how they handle 'radical' musicians


French rapper Monsieur R has avoided prosecution by the French government for controversial lyrics that compared France to a slut and the government to Germany's infamous Third Reich.

In the song, FranSSe, Monsieur R (born Richard Makela) makes reference to relieving himself on Napoleon and General Charles De Gaulle while repeatedly referring to France as a "b**ch" that needs to be taken until exhaustion.

The video for the song, which featured images of atrocities in Africa cut with naked white women playing with the French flag, had been banned from television.

Outraged French politicians blamed Monsieur R for inciting some of the riots that ended in parts of Paris suburbs being burned to the ground last November.

Late last year, French MP Daniel Mach brought charges against Monsieur R accusing him of broadcasting a violent or pornographic message, accessible to those less than 18 years of age.

Mach also drafted legislation that would make it a criminal offense to make statements that insult the dignity of France and the French state.

Makela faced a three-year prison term or a 75,000 euro fine, but the case was thrown out of court by the presiding judge who indicated that the MP had not himself suffered any harm and that there were no real victims.

'The judges have been courageous,” said Dominique Tricaud, lawyer for Monsieur R. “The judges have been courageous in their judgment because there was very strong political pressure. Two hundred deputies from the parliament asked for a special law from the parliament against the rappers. They wanted to kill the rap in France.”

The ruling marks the latest victory for rappers against French officials.

In 2003, rap band Sniper was accused of making anti-Semitic and racist music by Nicolas Sarkozy, France’s interior minister.

While a criminal case was filed, the case was found to have merit and the case was thrown out.

Pricetag
10/25/2006, 10:23 PM
Since when is critiquing your nation a bad thing?
We're at war, dammit! What's hilarious is that there's a good chance that anyone having a problem with the Green Day song thinks that just over/under 50 percent of our population are idiots.

Pricetag
10/25/2006, 10:24 PM
Does anyone else find the concept of a French rapper hilarious? Yo, yo, yo, give it up for Monsieur R!

TopDawg
10/25/2006, 10:24 PM
I wonder what Blink 182's views are on the trade deficit? They're about as qualified to talk about that as Green Day is to make any kind of social commentary. It always blew my mind how these "punks" had all the answers when it came to society and government.

Now we SoonerFans posters, on the other hand........

OklahomaTuba
10/26/2006, 08:36 AM
I wonder what Tuba's stand on the Dixie Chicks is?

U2?

Madonna?

Mel Gibson?

Kirk Gibson?

Debbie Gibson?

Kirk Cameron?

Cameron Diaz?

Brett Favre?

They are all washed up?

Well, Cameron is OK, she is still hot. :D

OklahomaTuba
10/26/2006, 08:50 AM
Since when is critiquing your nation a bad thing? Shouldn't be that a good thing--a sign that you actually give a **** and care enough to pay attention?

Heh, "critiquing".

From the song "Holiday"


Zieg Heil to the president gasman
Bombs away is your punishment
Pulverize the Eiffel tower
Who criticize your government
Bang bang goes the broken glass
Kill all the fags that don't agree
Trials by fire, setting fire
Is not a way that's meant for me
Just cause!

Then again, maybe there is a reason his biggest show was in Germany?

OklahomaTuba
10/26/2006, 08:58 AM
Yes but clearly Tuba aspires to be French, since that's how they handle 'radical' musicians

Je suis français. :D

picasso
10/26/2006, 10:23 AM
American Idiots are copied the world over. even in Canadaer.

The Green Day stance kinda reminds me of Picasso and Dali. both outspoken communists who preached peace and spreading of the wealth, all the while kissing Russian *** and raking in western money.

blow me Green Day.