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BIG_IKE
10/23/2006, 08:33 AM
Being the obsessive statistics person that I am I decided to look up all-time statistics on the greatest college programs of all time. Here are the teams that had the best history in my opinion. Michigan had the richest history from what I saw. I had know idea they have been that good for so long.
Behind them in no particular order,Notre Dame OU, USC, Nebraska, Alabama, tOSU, and Texas.

Interesting Facts about the best...

1.Notre Dame has not beat Ohio State since 1936
2. OU has a winning record vs. EVERY Conference
3. OU has a higher conference winning percentage than any of these top teams.

4. Alabama is 0-7-1 vs. Texas

5. The winningst teams of all-time, in order, are Michigan, Notre Dame, Texas, Nebraska, Alabama

6. The teams with the all-time highest winning % in order are, Michigan, Notre Dame, Texas, Alabama, Oklahoma.

7. Only 4 teams have won 800 games (Mich,ND,Tex, Neb)

8. When we beat Nebraska in 2000, we had not beat them in 10 years (since 1990)

9. Nebraska once lost to Oklahoma 16 CONSECUTIVE seasons!

10. Nebraska has had a 20 year span where they only had 2 winning seasons.

11. Oklahoma once went 12 years without losing a conference game

12. Michigan has not had a losing season since 1967.

13. Before last season, Michigan had won at least 8 games for 20 years in a row.

14. OU has NEVER lost to a team currently in the WAC, Big East, Conference USA or MAC Conference.

15. OU has not lost to an ACC team since the 80's

16. USC has won national titles in 15 different sports. Texas and Michigan in 14. Those 3 are most diverse in NCAA.


just for ****s and giggles...

Oklahoma State has never even played Notre Dame, USC, or Alabama. They have only beat Texas twice and Nebraska 3 times....EVER.
They also own the worst rivalry record in the history of rivalries.

..a few Michigan records I did not know

- Largest football only stadium in the world
-Most undefeated seasons in NCAA Football (25)
-Most Conference Championships (42)
-Most Winning Seasons (109)
-Longest current Bowl Streak (31)
-Most Televised Team Ever (356 games)
-Highest All-time strength of Schedule rating.


Anyone else got some neat stuff?
I really need to gt a life huh?:O

Tuloma
10/23/2006, 08:42 AM
No. 14 is wrong and OSU has played Ohio State.

BIG_IKE
10/23/2006, 09:01 AM
No. 14 is wrong and OSU has played Ohio State.

Who in those conferences has beaten OU?

Octavian
10/23/2006, 09:08 AM
Who in those conferences has beaten OU?

Conf USA - Tulsa

Big East - West VA ('82), Pitt ('65)

Octavian
10/23/2006, 09:32 AM
Michigan's bowl record, conference titles list, and all-time wins record is really impressive.

But the hangup with Michigan is their lack of national titles.

They claim 11: 1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1918, 1923, 1932, 1933, 1947, 1948, and 1997.

Eight came before the first uniform national polling service (AP) in 1936, and another ('47) came from the Dunkel Poll, which leaves 1948 and 1997 as Michigan's solid NCs.

Even if you don't question their early NCs...no titles between '48 and '97 would definetely knock them out of the top spot.

They're usually listed around 5 (or Nebraska) after the top 4.

The Top 4 is usually pretty consistent.

BIG_IKE
10/23/2006, 09:36 AM
Hmmm....maybe they were not in those conferences when they beat them. Yeah, thats what it was.
West Virginia in 1982 was independent.
Pittsburgh in 65' was independent also.
Tulsa...Well Conf-USA did not exist then.

I guess I should have worded it "Never beat OU as members of those conferences".
The only exception is TCU who did beat OU as conference usa members, but they are no longer C-USA members.

Taxman71
10/23/2006, 02:04 PM
1956 Sooners (6 shutouts, closing game was 8 points) or the 1974 Sooners (3 shutouts plus a 72-3 win).

Petro-Sooner
10/23/2006, 02:09 PM
1973 Idaho St.

BermudaSooner
10/23/2006, 03:28 PM
I guess I should have worded it "Never beat OU as members of those conferences".


No, you should have worded it "Never BEATEN OU as members of those conferences."

Sorry, but that was annoying me.

Harry Beanbag
10/23/2006, 04:09 PM
Oklahoma is second in the number of 10+ win seasons with 27. Alabama is first with 28, Nebraska is third with 25, and Michigan is fourth with 24.

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/misc_facts/win_seasons.php?win=10


Oklahoma has scored more points than any other team. Michigan is second.

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/misc/div_ia_points_for.php


Oklahoma and Michigan swap places for the largest delta between points scored and allowed.

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/misc/div_ia_delta_points.php


Oklahoma is tied with Notre Dame for most weeks at #1 in the AP poll. USC and Ohio State are next, with both making up a lot of ground over the last few years.

http://www.soonerstats.com/fb/polls/ap/totalapp.cfm

Mixer!
10/23/2006, 06:16 PM
They also own the worst rivalry record in the history of rivalries.

:les: THEY'RE NOT RIVALS!!

sanantoniosooner
10/23/2006, 06:40 PM
BYU was in the WAC when they beat OU in the Copper Bowl '98.

Harry Beanbag
10/23/2006, 06:43 PM
BYU was in the WAC when they beat OU in the Copper Bowl '98.


Actually, that ****ing game was in '94. Gibbs and his staff were out looking for jobs instead of coaching.

sanantoniosooner
10/23/2006, 06:45 PM
Actually, that ****ing game was in '94. Gibbs and his staff were out looking for jobs instead of coaching.
I shouldn't type one thing while thinking about another.

One of the most embarassing bowl games ever prior to the most recent unmentionable one.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/24/2006, 12:54 AM
I think the OU tems of '56 and '71, and the domer team of '66 were the most impressive I have ever personally seen, and are among the best anybody has seen.

Indy Sooner
10/24/2006, 10:03 PM
I think the OU tems of '56 and '71, and the domer team of '66 were the most impressive I have ever personally seen, and are among the best anybody has seen.

I guess Michigan State of '66 would rank right up there as well?

Octavian
10/24/2006, 10:07 PM
I guess Michigan State of '66 would rank right up there as well?

or '66 Bama?

They were the only undefeated, untied team that year.

There's a new book about them (http://www.themissingring.com/home.html). Pretty good.

ClintonSooner
10/24/2006, 10:10 PM
95' Nebraska

sorry, but truly nothing touched them, or maybe I'm thinking 96'?

either way they were the absolute shjt!

Paris of Troy
10/24/2006, 11:00 PM
The 1972 Trojans (12-0) outscored their opponents 467-134 and never trailed in the second half of any game. Their closest call was a 9-point victory. They were voted #1 from the start to the end of the season.

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5781/1348102uscwv4.jpg

King Crimson
10/24/2006, 11:10 PM
95 Bugeaters.

bstuff1979
10/24/2006, 11:15 PM
I'd have to go with the '96 bugeater team (or maybe it was '95, either way it was the one that lit up florida like a christmas tree). Other than that, maybe '75 OU (even with the KU loss) or the '40s Blanchard-Davis West Point teams. Another interesting stat involving the above teams, texas is the only team that has sucked for every waking moment of eternity. usc comes in a close second with being suc for only the past two hundred years. yes, sucking can be retroactive.

Octavian
10/24/2006, 11:27 PM
ESPN's List (http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/colfootball/teams/best.html)...so you know it's wrong. ;)

At first I thought this thread was about the all-time greatest programs.

But since it's just about teams from specific years...it's almost impossible to compare teams across large spans of time.

But '95 Nebraska was the best I've seen.

Indy Sooner
10/24/2006, 11:28 PM
http://www.cfrc.com/Archives/Top_200_2005.htm

King Crimson
10/24/2006, 11:34 PM
ESPN's List (http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/colfootball/teams/best.html)...so you know it's wrong. ;)



the thing about the 74 OU team (and the 75 team for that matter) is the AVERAGED forcing over 5 turnovers a game. that's a crazy stat.


it's at soonerstats.com somewhere.

Paris of Troy
10/24/2006, 11:36 PM
Another team that deserves consideration but is never mentioned (probably because they had to share the title with Miami) is the 1991 Washington Huskies.

That team beat opponents by an average of 42-9. The season included a 15-point win at Nebraska, where they gained 618 yards -- the most Nebby gave up in 35 years.

Octavian
10/24/2006, 11:39 PM
http://www.cfrc.com/Archives/Top_200_2005.htm

Oklahoma teams comprise over 10% (21/200) of that.

Still...that's a pretty messed up list.

Octavian
10/24/2006, 11:42 PM
the thing about the 74 OU team (and the 75 team for that matter) is the AVERAGED forcing over 5 turnovers a game. that's a crazy stat.


it's at soonerstats.com somewhere.

that's incredible...those teams also get lost in the shuffle sometimes because of the tv ban.

Switz always hints that '78 was probably his best squad but...

lost 6 outta 9 fumbles in Lincoln....and still almost won.

Octavian
10/24/2006, 11:46 PM
Another team that deserves consideration but is never mentioned (probably because they had to share the title with Miami) is the 1991 Washington Huskies.

That team beat opponents by an average of 42-9. The season included a 15-point win at Nebraska, where they gained 618 yards -- the most Nebby gave up in 35 years.

I remember watching that game. Brutal beatdown.

I always wondered what the UW-Miami game would've been like. Maybe something like Bama delivered to the Canes the next year.

Another forgotten is '94 Penn St. They were awesome and got leapfrogged by Nebbish after giving up two meaningless touchdowns to a conference foe (Indiana?) late in the 4th.

Kerry Collins and Kijana Carter...very explosive O.

Octavian
10/24/2006, 11:47 PM
and as much as I hate to think about it....'04 USC has to come up in the discussion at some point.

Paris of Troy
10/25/2006, 12:05 AM
and as much as I hate to think about it....'04 USC has to come up in the discussion at some point.

But that team had 5 close calls (V Tech, Stanford, Cal, Oregon State, Ucla). Excellent defense, but a shaky OL that limited a slow QB for the first half of the season. The OL got better over time.

'05 could have been one of the greatest of all time, but for all the defections and injuries on defense. I mean, we had three walk-ons on the field in the fourth quarter of the Rose Bowl, trying to stop Vince Young!

(Watch out for '07!)

Octavian
10/25/2006, 12:24 AM
But that team had 5 close calls (V Tech, Stanford, Cal, Oregon State, Ucla). Excellent defense, but a shaky OL that limited a slow QB for the first half of the season. The OL got better over time.

'05 could have been one of the greatest of all time, but for all the defections and injuries on defense. I mean, we had three walk-ons on the field in the fourth quarter of the Rose Bowl, trying to stop Vince Young!

(Watch out for '07!)

I know I brought it up, but I don't really wanna talk anymore about '04 USC ;)

certainly, though...the '05 team would have to be considered top5 if you'dve won the RB.

Speaking of an all-time great that lost the last one...'86 Miami would be right up there w/out Vinny's 5 picks to the Lion defense in the Fiesta

All_Day_28
10/25/2006, 01:40 AM
What about the '03 Sooners if they could have closed out the last two the same way they played the rest of the season..

TexasLidig8r
10/25/2006, 08:46 AM
Everyone knows that ESPN appointed the 2005 USC team as the best team in the History of God... they went on about how they slayed the Iraqis in Desert Storm, beat back Hitler's Stormtroopers and single handedly whipped the Germans at Pearl Harbor.

Then, their impressive, overwhelming win at the Rose Bowl... oh...

wait....


:D

MiccoMacey
10/25/2006, 09:49 AM
Do we need to implement NLW? :D