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Penguin
10/19/2006, 04:46 PM
Battlestar Galactica starts a writer union fight. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15264007/site/newsweek/)
proud gonzo
10/19/2006, 04:54 PM
hooray for the WGA! :D

eat it network bitches
sooneron
10/19/2006, 08:50 PM
Yeah, this is a brilliant move. The WGA and the SAG strikes are what created reality tv. I'm sure pool cleaning with the stars is just around the corner.
GottaHavePride
10/19/2006, 08:52 PM
Yeah, this is a brilliant move. The WGA and the SAG strikes are what created reality tv. I'm sure pool cleaning with the stars is just around the corner.

**** YEAH! Not paying writers for their efforts ROCKS!
Penguin
10/19/2006, 08:53 PM
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/061017_061023/061017_PeriBattlestar_wide.hlarge.jpg



Is anyone else turned on by this picture? Maybe I've been popping too many blue pills.
sooneron
10/19/2006, 08:56 PM
Uh, how much cash did SciFi make off streaming three minute videos? Until they make the technology better, no one will watch two minutes of credits for three minutes of content.
GottaHavePride
10/19/2006, 09:03 PM
Uh, how much cash did SciFi make off streaming three minute videos? Until they make the technology better, no one will watch two minutes of credits for three minutes of content.

From the article:


The stakes are huge: viewers streamed "Battlestar" Webisodes 5.5 million times last month, doubling traffic to SciFi.com within two days of the premiere. By comparison, 2.2 million people showed up for the show's third-season opener on Oct. 6.

That's a lot of advertising revenue.
sooneron
10/19/2006, 09:08 PM
Most of that advertising for the show/channel. They are basically promos. I have watched some streaming stuff - episodic, and a lot of them are under 5 minutes in length and the credits are shown after 4 episodes. The writers will probably win and everyone will get to download the webisodes off torrents, b/c the webisodes will ultimately cost $.99 on itunes.
proud gonzo
10/19/2006, 10:01 PM
somebody still has to write that three minutes of content
sooneron
10/19/2006, 10:19 PM
Here's a question that I have. Were the webisodes produced soley as that OR are they outtakes, cutting room floor, and or footage shot originally for air?

They say created for the internet, but that could mean edited together for the internet. All in all, it means more production to canada in the long run.
sooneron
10/19/2006, 10:24 PM
from the WGA


24. Residuals

Pay appropriate residuals as the film is released to various markets (free television, pay television, basic cable, videocassette, cd-rom, multimedia games, etc.). (Articles 15,16, 51, 58 and 64)

no mention of innerweb, yet
sooneron
10/19/2006, 10:25 PM
They are against sec. 22


22. Publicity and Promotion

Include the writer in all aspects of publicity and promotion. This includes press kits, previews and premieres. (Television Schedule A, Article 48, Long-Form Television Guideline #3)
sooneron
10/19/2006, 10:26 PM
and of course sec 23...


23. Advertising

Include the Guild-determined writing credit in all publicity and advertising, including trailers. Prior to final determination of credits, include the good faith credit in all advertising and publicity. (Television Schedule A)
StoopTroup
10/19/2006, 10:28 PM
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/061017_061023/061017_PeriBattlestar_wide.hlarge.jpg


Way to much lube....lol
GottaHavePride
10/19/2006, 10:30 PM
Here's a question that I have. Were the webisodes produced soley as that OR are they outtakes, cutting room floor, and or footage shot originally for air?

They say created for the internet, but that could mean edited together for the internet. All in all, it means more production to canada in the long run.

I think the web-isodes are totally new, web-exclusive stories. I think they have to go out of their way to write and film them.
proud gonzo
10/19/2006, 10:31 PM
sooneron--you've just listed exactly WHY they're considering a strike. to get everything rewritten to take webisode type stuff into consideration
proud gonzo
10/19/2006, 10:31 PM
and yes, from my understanding the webisodes are entirely new content created specifically for the purpose of airing on the internet.
Penguin
10/19/2006, 10:34 PM
and yes, from my understanding the webisodes are entirely new content created specifically for the purpose of airing on the internet.



Yeah, I like the picture, too.
hurricane'bone
10/19/2006, 10:37 PM
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/061017_061023/061017_PeriBattlestar_wide.hlarge.jpg



Is anyone else turned on by this picture? Maybe I've been popping too many blue pills.


:hot:
sooneron
10/19/2006, 10:40 PM
Slippery slope- with the residual thing. I don't see the bigs relaxing on that one.much

From what I just viewed, it looked like a lot of deleted scenes. I'm sure it could be new, but it was heinously boring.
proud gonzo
10/19/2006, 11:05 PM
they can't really do much if all their writers stop writing
sooneron
10/19/2006, 11:07 PM
they can't really do much if all their writers stop writing
http://www.showmelines.com/CanadaFlag1.jpeg

:texan:

or like I said- more reality crap.
mdklatt
10/19/2006, 11:10 PM
they can't really do much if all their writers stop writing

That hasn't stopped Jericho from airing....
proud gonzo
10/19/2006, 11:12 PM
it would stop airing if people didn't keep watching it--apparently america likes to watch sh*t.
mdklatt
10/19/2006, 11:18 PM
it would stop airing if people didn't keep watching it--apparently america likes to watch sh*t.

I officially gave up on it last week.
handcrafted
10/20/2006, 10:33 AM
Webisodes will cost .99 and the networks will start charging a subscription fee for streaming full episodes, unless they make enough off the advertising to pay the royalties.

Unions get uppity = stuff starts costing more. Why precisely should a writer get paid every time something they had a part in gets streamed? Do writers get paid everytime somebody reads one of their books (I don't mean buys it, I mean reads it).

The same thing has been driving all the subscription crap for listening to sports events on the innerweb. It used to be that you could listen to out of town radio (even out of country) and hear stuff you would not have access to otherwise, even if you wanted to. Now, you gotta pay $5 a month or more just to hear crappy real audio that cuts out all the time anyway.