Ok, so hypothetically speaking...

[proud gonzo]

...if you were watching a tv show and some chick just saw a bunch of people get shot (and she was sorta shot at too) and spent a long time fixing up a bunch of people who were all bleeding on her and she puked a few times and she lost a bunch of blood from a nasty gash in her leg and passed out...how long could she stay passed out before you started to get suspicious and wonder "shouldn't she be awake yet?"

????

[yermom]

huh?

[colleyvillesooner]

the answer is 7

[afs]

CSI: Miami?

[BeetDigger]

Who are you asking: us or the chick in the TV show?

[proud gonzo]

could she be passed out long enough to get her leg stitched up and stuff, or would you wonder why she didn't wake up? Or does all that stuff add up to only being passed out for a minute and waking up when somebody jabbed you with a needle?

[sanantoniosooner]

Depends on if it's NLT or not.

[proud gonzo]

Who are you asking: us or the chick in the TV show?
I'M ASKING YOU GUYS!!!

[Tailwind]

No. Certainly not. .........um....what was the question again?

[proud gonzo]

damn it.

IF a chick passed out after trauma and puking and losing blood, how long could she feasibly be unconscious before you wonder why she's not awake yet?

[GottaHavePride]

5 minutes.

[Tailwind]

Depends on if I like her or not. Did anyone try slapping her to see if she'd wake up?

[Frozen Sooner]

damn it.

IF a chick passed out after trauma and puking and losing blood, how long could she feasibly be unconscious before you wonder why she's not awake yet?

There's a joke about "That's just called Saturday night around my house" but I can't think of a good way to make it.

[proud gonzo]

Depends on if I like her or not. Did anyone try slapping her to see if she'd wake up?well... probably not, because there's a doctor there and they know she's alive and lost blood and there's kind of a lot going on... it's not really a "slapping face to wake up" sort of show. And she's probably better off asleep anyway

[Frozen Sooner]

well... probably not, because there's a doctor there and they know she's alive and lost blood and there's kind of a lot going on... it's not really a "slapping face to wake up" sort of show. And she's probably better off asleep anyway

Yep. More and more like a typical Saturday around here.

If she wakes up and asks "Are you done?" then I'm going to look for cameras.

[proud gonzo]

you people are not helpful

[Tailwind]

sooorrrreeeeee! It is monday evening after all, you know. What a crappy freakin day!.

[Mixer!]

I'm guessing this isn't about Brenda Warner.





'cause I didn't think you were the MNF-watching type... :O

[proud gonzo]

It's about a damn tv episode i have to write for class tomorrow :mad:

[SoonerInKCMO]

Where on her leg? Inner thigh where that big ole artery will bleed a person to death in a few minutes or somewhere else where they can sit and linger for a while?

[SoonerInKCMO]

Also, you really should try to get your homework done earlier than 11:23 the night before class. Your study habits leave something to be desired.

;)

[proud gonzo]

not where there is a big artery. she isn't going to die, and it's quite a while from the time of getting scraped up to passing out.

[BeetDigger]

It's about a damn tv episode i have to write for class tomorrow :mad:



Well, you should have said so, we would have tried to be more helpful. :D

[proud gonzo]

Also, you really should try to get your homework done earlier than 11:23 the night before class. Your study habits leave something to be desired.

;)
I've been working on it since 9 am.... and yes i know. :O

[soonernation]

It's about a damn tv episode i have to write for class tomorrow :mad:

So you are basically asking the people in this forum for homework help?

































You are in deep ****. Look at the bright side. You have McDonalds to fall back on.;)

[Mixer!]

In the real world, she'd be tended to immediately. Since this is Hollywood however, I'll say until after the commercial break at the bottom of the hour.



Hope that helps.

[proud gonzo]

well, she's getting tended to immediately, it just happens that they're in the middle of the African Congo and there're a lot of people with gunshot wounds around too...

[BeetDigger]

Ok PG, I brought my wife in here and she nor I really understand the question. I think we need a diagram.

[proud gonzo]

nevermind. I don't want to explain the whole story. I got it all figured out.

[Frozen Sooner]

OK, if someone was in an actual faint with no head trauma, I would assume that as soon as the stitching started they would wake up. Howeve, if they had passed out from either lack of blood or were rendered unconscious from a blow to the head, I could believe pretty much any amount of time.

[PhxSooner]

In the real world, she'd be tended to immediately. Since this is Hollywood however, I'll say until after the commercial break at the bottom of the hour.



Hope that helps.
Sounds good to me.

If you puke up stuff and are bleeding, how on earth do they fix her up? An IV in the middle of the jungle?

I'm no good at dramas. Give me a question about High School Musical or some other Disney show, and I'm your gal.

[Frozen Sooner]

Generally, though, she'd be in the garbage disposal before she woke up.

[proud gonzo]

*sigh*

[PhxSooner]

Not a helpful group tonight, is it?

[Mixer!]

Generally, though, she'd be in Czar's dead whore closet before she woke up. :eek: :D

[Frozen Sooner]

*sigh*

Good Lord, pg, I ANSWERED your question.

[proud gonzo]

there's a doctor there and no garbage disposal :P

[Frozen Sooner]

:eek: :D

Czar's Dead Whore closet is such a ripoff of my hooker-destroying garbage disposal.
y wh
I mean, I like Czar and VK a great deal, so they're welcome to whatever helpful household hints I have, but I was talking about disposing of dead hookers YEARS ago on this forum.





edited because "hooker-destroying" is more euphonious than "whore-destroying."

[BeetDigger]

damn it.

IF a chick passed out after trauma and puking and losing blood, how long could she feasibly be unconscious before you wonder why she's not awake yet?


Disclaimer: serious answer ahead.



I think a general, average, everyday person would probably wait about 5 to 10 minutes without any signs of life. I think that most would try to get some kind of pulse and sans pulse, they would go get help. If they are relying on medical staff and the staff isn't there, then 5-10 minutes.


Disclaimer: non serious answer ahead.

Unless there was a MNF game on. Then, probably 30 minutes to an hour. Possibly longer.

[Frozen Sooner]

there's a doctor there and no garbage disposal :P

Well, then, what's the point of having a passed-out woman who's covered in puke and blood if there's no garbage disposal?

Seriously, pg, I'm having a lot of trouble with the suspension of disbelief here.

[Frozen Sooner]

Oh, shoot-my serious answer was from the standpoint of the audience believing her to be passed out for that long, not from the standpoint of "how long does the doctor wait before treating her."

Straight answer-if flow of blood has stopped and her vital signs are somewhat stable, I think a doctor engaged in triage would tend to those who are still losing blood and audibly in pain as opposed to someone who was unconscious. Once the flow of blood was stopped, he'd come back to the unconscious one.

[1stTimeCaller]

is she hawt?

[proud gonzo]

Disclaimer: serious answer ahead.



I think a general, average, everyday person would probably wait about 5 to 10 minutes without any signs of life. I think that most would try to get some kind of pulse and sans pulse, they would go get help. If they are relying on medical staff and the staff isn't there, then 5-10 minutes.


Disclaimer: non serious answer ahead.

Unless there was a MNF game on. Then, probably 30 minutes to an hour. Possibly longer.

ok i see the problem now. I don't mean if you were there WITH her how long would you wait. I mean if you were watching her passed out ON TV how long would it be before you wondered why (on the show) she wasn't awake yet.

[Frozen Sooner]

Well dang it, I answered THAT question up above as well!

[PhxSooner]

Couple of minutes, tops. Short attention span for unconcious people.

[proud gonzo]

froz's serious answer was w/ the right interpretations.


and yes, 1tc, she's "hawt" because there's basically no such thing as a 22 year old female tv character who ISN'T

[1stTimeCaller]

OK, did she get some clothing torn off when she was injured?
How much and what's left and where?

If she's nekkid I could watch that scene for a while. fully clothed, 3 seconds.

[critical_phil]

http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/june/ronco/bass.jpg

Yes, whore-killers, the days of troublesome scaling, cutting and gutting are over, because Super Whore-o-Matic '76 is the tool that lets you use the whore with no whore waste, and without scaling, cutting or gutting.

[Frozen Sooner]

See, that thing is cool and all for like camping trips, but the garbage disposal is 2HP.

[Mixer!]

:::: listens to the furitive sounds of mouses clicking across the SF.com neighborhood as "un-hawt 22 year old female tv character" is GIS'd... ::::
:D

[Frozen Sooner]

No GIS necessary.

Ugly Betty.

[proud gonzo]

OK, did she get some clothing torn off when she was injured?
How much and what's left and where?

If she's nekkid I could watch that scene for a while. fully clothed, 3 seconds.

i'm not even going to answer that question for fear of where it will lead.

[proud gonzo]

No GIS necessary.

Ugly Betty. that's mostly bad taste/style etc. rather than ugly, actually.

http://www.collegebound.net/go-girl/celeb/images/america.gifhttp://www.monstersandcritics.com/artman/uploads/1_013.jpg

[Frozen Sooner]

What genre is the show you're writing? It truly does make a difference.

[Frozen Sooner]

that's mostly bad taste/style etc. rather than ugly, actually.

http://www.collegebound.net/go-girl/celeb/images/america.gifhttp://www.monstersandcritics.com/artman/uploads/1_013.jpg

Yeah, OK, I'd hit it.

(Never actually seen the show, just heard about it.)

[proud gonzo]

What genre is the show you're writing? It truly does make a difference. one hour drama

[GottaHavePride]

Yeah, OK, I'd hit it.

(Never actually seen the show, just heard about it.)

Wow. They did a truly impressive job of ugly-ing her up for the show.

[proud gonzo]

yeah, no joke--you think Salma Hayek would actually have an UGLY person starring in a show she's producing?

[critical_phil]

i can't say i read the entire thread.

did she get an IV?

[proud gonzo]

um... maybe?

[pb4ou]

At the point of stitching, is she the main focus of the storyboard or in the background while something else is going on?

[critical_phil]

do we know anything about her serum potassium levels?

[Frozen Sooner]

one hour drama

OK, my serious answer stands then.

[GottaHavePride]

I told PG it's much easier to have the chick pass out, then wake back up while they're stitching her leg, then maybe they give her an IV to re-hydrate her (although supplies in her scenaio are limited, so they may just re-hydrate by giving her something to drink) and then they tell the girl to sleep it off.

Thus, the girl is still asleep when the guerrillas return, and you don't have to wonder "why the hell hasn't she woken up yet? I thought she just passed out from dehydration..."

[Frozen Sooner]

Why not have her pass out and hit her head on a rock when she falls?

[GottaHavePride]

Why not have her pass out and hit her head on a rock when she falls?

I don't think she wants the character to run the risk of serious head trauma, PG just wants the character to not be conscious when other crap starts to happen, and was looking for a way to make it believable.

[proud gonzo]

the situation wouldn't be nearly as awesome iff'n she fell on a rock. ...just trust me on that.

[GottaHavePride]

You do realize that when you get the episode done you'll have to post it for these yahoos to read and tell you how much it stinks, why it's ghey, and there should be more half-nekkid hawt chicks shooting at things, right?

[critical_phil]

I told PG it's much easier to have the chick pass out, then wake back up while they're stitching her leg, then maybe they give her an IV to re-hydrate her (although supplies in her scenaio are limited, so they may just re-hydrate by giving her something to drink) and then they tell the girl to sleep it off.

Thus, the girl is still asleep when the guerrillas return, and you don't have to wonder "why the hell hasn't she woken up yet? I thought she just passed out from dehydration..."

ok, here's my serious answer.

i've been shot at before. i've puked before. i've cut my leg before. i've been in the jungle before.

although none of these things happened to me simultaneously, i didn't pass out at any point. so my answer is: i would immediately wonder why she was out.

it's kind of like tango and cash telling jokes during a fire fight. it doesn't make much sense - unless you recognize that you're watching tango and cash. so, if you're writing a tango and cash episode - forget everything i've said.

[GottaHavePride]

Edit: nevermind.

[sanantoniosooner]

I'm thinking there should be a webcam nearby and a group of stupid BBS members that attempt to save her life, gut give up because the bird noises get too annoying.

[BeetDigger]

ok i see the problem now. I don't mean if you were there WITH her how long would you wait. I mean if you were watching her passed out ON TV how long would it be before you wondered why (on the show) she wasn't awake yet.


I was TRYING to tell you I was confused here. Ok, I think that a minute or two. Depends on other things going on. If I am focusing on something else, then longer. But if nothing else is going on, I would say a minute.

[critical_phil]

why don't you just PM oudoc.

all the other ****ers in this thread are idiots.

[sanantoniosooner]

why don't you just PM oudoc.

all the other ****ers in this thread are idiots.
There is a waiting room for his PMs.

[BeetDigger]

yeah, no joke--you think Salma Hayek would actually have an UGLY person starring in a show she's producing?


There are a couple of other attributes of Selma's that I pay attention to. A while looks are important, I am more interested in a, shall we say, morally casual attitude.

[BeetDigger]

There is a waiting room for his PMs.


Take two asprin and leave the $5.

[critical_phil]

There are a couple of other attributes of Selma's that I pay attention to. A while looks are important, I am more interested in a, shall we say, moustache.


:hot:

[proud gonzo]

nevermind with the whole damn thread. I guess it isn't worth it to try and get an answer without explaining the entire story, which i don't want to do (and thank you GHP for editing your post to get rid of the very nice summary you wrote). i didn't mention all the other factors because those would all be explained if you actually saw the entire show. i just wanted to know how long before people would wonder why she was not awake.

so nevermind.

[dolemitesooner]

It's about a damn tv episode i have to write for class tomorrow :mad:
You need to stay up all night and start over:D

[Mixer!]

This about that "Lost" show, idn't it? :P

[proud gonzo]

no

[critical_phil]

the answer is: how long do you need her to be out?

can't you make the circumstances around her injuries/recovery fit?

[sanantoniosooner]

reading this thead put me out for 7 minutes.

[proud gonzo]

the answer is: how long do you need her to be out?

can't you make the circumstances around her injuries/recovery fit?that's what i was trying to figure out!

[critical_phil]

well, if she's unconscious, she can't drink gatorade. if her blood/fluid loss is really significant, she could go into hypovolemic shock and die.

so, maybe think twice about the unconsciousness part. how about "woozy" instead.

if she's semi-conscious and can drink something - 15 minutes.

if she has an IV - 5 minutes.

[dolemitesooner]

rofl...this thread is so retared....I am confused

[proud gonzo]

well, if she's unconscious, she can't drink gatorade. if her blood/fluid loss is really significant, she could go into hypovolemic shock and die.

so, maybe think twice about the unconsciousness part. how about "woozy" instead.

if she's semi-conscious and can drink something - 15 minutes.

if she has an IV - 5 minutes.
nope, she has to pass out. can't explain why...but she has to be

thanks though ;)

[sanantoniosooner]

maybe this could knock her out (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=348371717561530893&q=monkey+finger&hl=en)

[dolemitesooner]

A Professor was giving a lecture on "Involuntary Muscular Contractions" to his first year medical students.

Realizing that this was not the most riveting subject, the Professor decided to lighten the mood slightly. He pointed to a young woman in the front row and said, "Do you know what your *** hole is doing while you're having an orgasm?"

She replied, "More than likely deer hunting or fishing with his buddies."

[proud gonzo]

completely off topic, but hilarious

[nmsoonergirl]

any chance you could have the docs give her a sedative before they sew her leg up? Then it would make sense that she'd stay asleep for awhile.
They could give her some phenergan if she's vomiting--that would also make her sleep (wouldn't really be good medicine, but most people aren't going to know that).
As a viewer, I'd start to wonder why she didn't wake up immediately after she passed out--if she's sick enough to pass out and STAY passed out, she'd be too sick to magically wake when the terrorists got there. Of course, I have a different background than most viewers, so I don't know how helpful that would be...

[proud gonzo]

maybe this could knock her out (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=348371717561530893&q=monkey+finger&hl=en)ok that's pretty funny too

[critical_phil]

nope, she has to pass out. can't explain why...but she has to be

o.k.

i understand that she's in the jungle and you can't just call 911. however, consider the intervention for the signs/symptoms you gave in the scenario.

unconscious
fluid imbalance
bleeding


if you showed up in the ER with the exact same symptoms, you wouldn't get anything by mouth. also, based on the description, you aren't likely to jump up in 15 minutes feeling alls better.

write a field medicine kit into the script. jam an IV into her jugular.

[sanantoniosooner]

Perhaps the chimp can perform mouth to mouth after his finger knocks her out.

[Mixer!]

write a field medicine kit into the script. jam an IV into her jugular.

:pop: :eek: :pop:

[BeetDigger]

nevermind with the whole damn thread. I guess it isn't worth it to try and get an answer without explaining the entire story, which i don't want to do (and thank you GHP for editing your post to get rid of the very nice summary you wrote). i didn't mention all the other factors because those would all be explained if you actually saw the entire show. i just wanted to know how long before people would wonder why she was not awake.

so nevermind.



I tried to answer the question. I really did.

[1stTimeCaller]

is it like Dumb & Dumber? that was a funny movie

[crawfish]

I like Steve Martin's solution in "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid"...

[Sooner_Bob]

It's a movie . . . you can do whatever you want.


:D

[NormanPride]

As far as the psychology of the thing, viewers forget pretty easily if you cut away to something else important. You could cut to another plot point, then cut back as things are calming down and she's coming to. The implication is that time has passed, and the natural assumption is that time heals whatever wounds she has. If it's clear that her wounds aren't life-threatening, then that can be accomplished. However, if the audience is led to believe that she is in mortal danger, that has to be resolved somehow, regardless of time.

The fact remains, you can put as much time in there as you want, as long as you distract the audience with something else. I know it's an odd and somewhat irrelevant comparison, but think of Billy Madison where the clown cracks his skull on the concrete of a pool walkway. There are even references to him still sitting there throughout the movie. Near the end, he gets up and is fine, with only a slight explanation. It's a comedy, and ridiculous, but the point remains. Another character could say "Next time don't pass out on me like that. If I didn't have this [plot device] on me, it would have been bad..." and it wouldn't really matter how much time had passed.