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donutello
9/19/2006, 12:33 PM
I fully sympathize with OU fans and agree that OU got jobbed in this game. As a fan of a Pac-10 school, I apologize on behalf of every incompetent Pac-10 official.
That being said, this isn't the first time a Pac-10 official got a replay wrong. This talk of conspiracies is ridiculous. Remember the "conclusive evidence" that a safety did not occur on this play?
http://powderkegblue.com/albums/fb2005/okie/game/Okie05a_037.jpg
SanDiegoSoonerGal
9/19/2006, 12:37 PM
I wouldn't go so far as to call it a conspiracy. But it's obvious that someone is lying, and I would just like to know what really happened. That's all.
Thanks, that's real helpful for this year.
Can we show a pic of OU/texas 1984 to support our point?
This is clearly a touchdown.
http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/ncf/2000/1007/photo/a_fagan_i.jpg
He's clearly in bounds here:
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/football/ncaa/10/02/bc.fbc.texastech.oklaho.ap/p1_peterson2_ap.jpg
This is clearly the wrong sport:
http://www.football-info.ru/n_1.0.2/data/upimages/_310.jpg
Jewstin
9/19/2006, 12:55 PM
YEAH. T0t4lly agr33d, d00d.
I remember the "inconclusive evidence" in this one, too.
http://208.56.96.178/photo/gallery/All_Catagories/Ingham%20WJG%204c%20Football%20Oregon%20vs%20Washi ngton%201940%20Multnomah%20Stadium%20Portland%20Or egon%20USA%20prints%20photographs%20historic%20bw% 20horizontals%20wsl.jpg
Stick it to 'em bro!!!1111one
:rolleyes:
OKLA21FAN
9/19/2006, 12:57 PM
who is this '#7' guy anyway?
Must be some sort of fark!
Pricetag
9/19/2006, 12:59 PM
That being said, this isn't the first time a Pac-10 official got a replay wrong. This talk of conspiracies is ridiculous. Remember the "conclusive evidence" that a safety did not occur on this play?
Tell you what--you can have that safety if we get back to two turnovers that were questionably taken from us in that game.
We get that Pac 10 refs have always sucked, but they never sucked this bad.
donutello
9/19/2006, 01:00 PM
This is clearly the wrong sport:
http://www.football-info.ru/n_1.0.2/data/upimages/_310.jpg
LOL! :)
Jewstin
9/19/2006, 01:02 PM
who is this '#7' guy anyway?
Must be some sort of fark!
#7? You mean Brandon Everage? Or DeMarco Murray? ;) According to soonersports.com, there wasn't a #7 on our team in 2004 and 2005.
:D
sooneron
9/19/2006, 01:04 PM
"How Scored
ARTICLE 1. It is a safety when:
a. The ball becomes dead out of bounds behind a goal line, except from an
incompleted forward pass, or becomes dead in the possession of a player
on, above or behind his own goal line (or becomes dead by rule), and
the defending team is responsible for the ball being there "
Yawn...
OUGreg723
9/19/2006, 01:05 PM
http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/00080/000802b4.jpg
Or when the Cherokee got that cheap goal to beat the Cheyenne in the great game of 1583! God, I was so ****ed off!
tulsaOUfan
9/19/2006, 01:08 PM
as a fan of the pac 10, you should be hoping it is a conspiracy instead of the alternative
Jewstin
9/19/2006, 01:09 PM
Or when the Cherokee got that cheap goal to beat the Cheyenne in the great game of 1583! God, I was so ****ed off!
LMFAO.
ADs_Agent
9/19/2006, 01:13 PM
LOL! you to, I pulled a lot of hair out that day, that's the last time I let an Emu ref a game.
Jewstin
9/19/2006, 01:15 PM
Who could forget David's historic comeback versus Goliath? I still can't believe Goliath was flagged for that use of a shield.
http://www.whiteheadcarvings.com/images/gallery/David_vs_Goliath.jpg
OUGreg723
9/19/2006, 01:43 PM
HEHE.
donutello
9/19/2006, 02:03 PM
"How Scored
ARTICLE 1. It is a safety when:
a. The ball becomes dead out of bounds behind a goal line, except from an
incompleted forward pass, or becomes dead in the possession of a player
on, above or behind his own goal line (or becomes dead by rule), and
the defending team is responsible for the ball being there "
Yawn...
That doesn't mean what you think it means. "Defense being responsible" means if the situation was caused by the defense obtaining possession of the ball and fumbling the ball into the offenses endzone not defense forcing a fumble.
And yes, I have lots of beefs with Pac-10 officials and Gordon Reise in particular myself. Remember the 2004 game when UCLA forced a Reggie Bush fumble and was on the way to the endzone before a whistle blew? That call caused a 10-point swing in a game we lost by 5 points. The ref who blew the whistle? You guessed it.
Yes, Pac-10 officials are incompetent. But so are Big 12 officials (5th down, Nebraska kicked TD, OU - Texas Tech game from last year) and officials from every other conference out there. I'm as frustrated by it as anyone else. But it's not a conspiracy. Being a ref doesn't pay enough and there isn't enough talent to officiate 117 Div I-A teams playing ever weekend. Paying a little more is not going to change that. You'd have to pay a whole heck of a lot more before you could recruit more people to do what is essentially a thankless job.
Paperclip
9/19/2006, 02:35 PM
That doesn't mean what you think it means.
http://media.lawrence.com/img/photos/2005/04/07/inigomontoya_t180.jpg
BermudaSooner
9/19/2006, 02:39 PM
Remember the "conclusive evidence" that a safety did not occur on this play?
http://powderkegblue.com/albums/fb2005/okie/game/Okie05a_037.jpg
Yea, I remember Bomar pulling the ball out of the endzone and then being tackled. What is your point? That the Pac-10 got this one right?
tulsaOUfan
9/19/2006, 03:05 PM
***WARNING*** OU fans will be ****ed after watching this video.
Not only did Oregon touch the ball first but they also didnt even recover the kick at all. This video shows CONCLUSIVE evidence that the Sooners were robbed on the highest level. Congradulations to the NCAA and PAC-10 officals for botching the game. Oregon should be ashamed for taking advantage of this situation. Disgusting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDtfppxP4Q8
sooneron
9/19/2006, 03:07 PM
Japan bombs Pearl Harbor
TripleOption14
9/19/2006, 03:32 PM
The problem w/ your argument is that your not comparing apples to apples. The safety play you are talking about did not affect the immediate outcome of the game. Didn't that "safety" play happen relatively early in the game? I can't remember. Now if UCLA was down by 1 w/ 70 sec left and then that happened then you would have an argument. But the two situations are TOTALLY different.
TheGodfather889
9/19/2006, 03:37 PM
I've come to the conclusion over the years that it doesn't matter which conference the referees are in. All refs suck period!!!!! I've always hated refs.
donutello
9/19/2006, 03:51 PM
The problem w/ your argument is that your not comparing apples to apples. The safety play you are talking about did not affect the immediate outcome of the game. Didn't that "safety" play happen relatively early in the game? I can't remember. Now if UCLA was down by 1 w/ 70 sec left and then that happened then you would have an argument. But the two situations are TOTALLY different.
No, I'm not comparing the two situations. They are indeed completely different and you have every right to be upset at the blown call in the Oregon game which did affect the outcome as opposed to the safety call. All I'm saying is that this is not the first or only time a replay ref blew a call and it's incompetence, not a conspiracy or bias.
sooneron
9/19/2006, 03:52 PM
The problem w/ your argument is that your not comparing apples to apples. The safety play you are talking about did not affect the immediate outcome of the game. Didn't that "safety" play happen relatively early in the game? I can't remember. Now if UCLA was down by 1 w/ 70 sec left and then that happened then you would have an argument. But the two situations are TOTALLY different.
It doesn't matter, The idiot was NOT in the endzone. He did not gain possession of it until he had scooped it out of the endzone and was thus, down, inside the 1.
dougsooner
9/19/2006, 04:17 PM
Conerning the "safety" by that #7 player (whom I don't recognize): It is clear from that picture that he neither had possesion of the ball nor was his knee down. Sorry, I only had "one frame" to look at for the review..... Hey it works for CheatinOregon, why not for me???
TripleOption14
9/19/2006, 04:21 PM
No, I'm not comparing the two situations. They are indeed completely different and you have every right to be upset at the blown call in the Oregon game which did affect the outcome as opposed to the safety call. All I'm saying is that this is not the first or only time a replay ref blew a call and it's incompetence, not a conspiracy or bias.
Fair enough.
tulsaOUfan
9/19/2006, 04:25 PM
No, I'm not comparing the two situations. They are indeed completely different and you have every right to be upset at the blown call in the Oregon game which did affect the outcome as opposed to the safety call. All I'm saying is that this is not the first or only time a replay ref blew a call and it's incompetence, not a conspiracy or bias.
you can't rule out conspiracy or bias in one case just because it's not present in every case.
Jewstin
9/19/2006, 04:33 PM
Being a ref doesn't pay enough ... *snip*
A-ha! And who says referees don't have any incentive to blow calls or lie about the outcome of games? There are millions of dollars flowing around these college football games and the poorest folk involved are the ones with the most power.
As I said in another thread, the only REAL option is the use of robots ... or possibly cyborgs.
http://www.smallartworks.ca/Gallery/Robot/Robot4.JPG
Jason White's Third Knee
9/19/2006, 04:39 PM
I fully sympathize with OU fans and agree that OU got jobbed in this game. As a fan of a Pac-10 school, I apologize on behalf of every incompetent Pac-10 official.
That being said, this isn't the first time a Pac-10 official got a replay wrong. This talk of conspiracies is ridiculous. Remember the "conclusive evidence" that a safety did not occur on this play?
http://powderkegblue.com/albums/fb2005/okie/game/Okie05a_037.jpg
Didn't you guys pretty much whip our football clumsy team? Replay is much to get excited about when the game isn't terribly close.
Sorry about that play dude. They got us back in the oregon game.
Jason White's Third Knee
9/19/2006, 04:41 PM
A-ha! And who says referees don't have any incentive to blow calls or lie about the outcome of games? There are millions of dollars flowing around these college football games and the poorest folk involved are the ones with the most power.
As I said in another thread, the only REAL option is the use of robots ... or possibly cyborgs.
http://www.smallartworks.ca/Gallery/Robot/Robot4.JPG
Can we put a GPS tracker in side of the flippin' ball for christ's sake? On their damned shoes too. It could light up like the foul line at a bowling lane.
Jason White's Third Knee
9/19/2006, 04:44 PM
http://peace.saumag.edu/faculty/kardas/Images/Web%20Images/Animals/lion%20w%20kill.jpg
This one was rediculous. That unneccesary roughness call took the lion's out of field goal range. Unneccesary roughness? They're lions dangit.
caphorns
9/19/2006, 04:48 PM
At the risk of alienating some of my Texas brethren, we were clearly offsides when we beat Mexico. Not to mention the unsportsmanlike conduct of slitting throats in the middle of the night.
KingDavid
9/19/2006, 08:05 PM
Who could forget David's historic comeback versus Goliath? I still can't believe Goliath was flagged for that use of a shield.
http://www.whiteheadcarvings.com/images/gallery/David_vs_Goliath.jpg
LMAO.
KingDavid
9/19/2006, 08:10 PM
I fully sympathize with OU fans and agree that OU got jobbed in this game. As a fan of a Pac-10 school, I apologize on behalf of every incompetent Pac-10 official.
That being said, this isn't the first time a Pac-10 official got a replay wrong. This talk of conspiracies is ridiculous. Remember the "conclusive evidence" that a safety did not occur on this play?
http://powderkegblue.com/albums/fb2005/okie/game/Okie05a_037.jpg
Gosh. You're right.
I tell you what. If you'll let us void the results of the Oregon-OU game, then we'll agree to void the results of UCLA game, too.
Deal?
Snrfn4ever08
9/19/2006, 08:15 PM
Gosh. You're right.
I tell you what. If you'll let us void the results of the Oregon-OU game, then we'll agree to void the results of UCLA game, too.
Deal?
Hey, I'll sign that petition!!!!:D :D :D :D
http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/00080/000802b4.jpg
Or when the Cherokee got that cheap goal to beat the Cheyenne in the great game of 1583! God, I was so ****ed off!
LMAO
sooneron
9/19/2006, 09:11 PM
That doesn't mean what you think it means. "Defense being responsible" means if the situation was caused by the defense obtaining possession of the ball and fumbling the ball into the offenses endzone not defense forcing a fumble.
And yes, I have lots of beefs with Pac-10 officials and Gordon Reise in particular myself. Remember the 2004 game when UCLA forced a Reggie Bush fumble and was on the way to the endzone before a whistle blew? That call caused a 10-point swing in a game we lost by 5 points. The ref who blew the whistle? You guessed it.
Yes, Pac-10 officials are incompetent. But so are Big 12 officials (5th down, Nebraska kicked TD, OU - Texas Tech game from last year) and officials from every other conference out there. I'm as frustrated by it as anyone else. But it's not a conspiracy. Being a ref doesn't pay enough and there isn't enough talent to officiate 117 Div I-A teams playing ever weekend. Paying a little more is not going to change that. You'd have to pay a whole heck of a lot more before you could recruit more people to do what is essentially a thankless job.
That is not what I was referring to. Try reading the first sentence of the ncaa rule to yourself very slowly .
That fumble had nothing to do with defense. The idiot was NOT on the line/above it/ behind it when he re-gained possession.
By the way, would you like to review the two ints that were called PI on OU in that game?? We would love to. THAT is game outcome changing stuff right there.
LiteCOL
9/19/2006, 10:30 PM
Being a ref doesn't pay enough and there isn't enough talent to officiate 117 Div I-A teams playing ever weekend. Paying a little more is not going to change that. You'd have to pay a whole heck of a lot more before you could recruit more people to do what is essentially a thankless job.
Wrong - there are plenty of guys aching for D-1 referee positions. It's actually quite the cottage industry. They work part time, they get to travel, and they get to screw with people - large masses of people - with impunity. Many of these guys are the same types of people who spend wads of cash running for low paying elected positions, again, for power.
Plus, chicks dig stripes.
Jason White's Third Knee
9/20/2006, 08:26 AM
And I think we all remember when this flag was thrown...
http://cache.gawker.com/news/dumb_dumber.jpg
And I think we all remember when this flag was thrown...
http://cache.gawker.com/news/dumb_dumber.jpg
Those post-game celebrations can get out of hand.
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