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TrophyCollector
9/17/2006, 02:10 PM
After 3 games, Oklahoma defensive rankings:
Rushing D: 94th in NCAA
Passing D: 96th in NCAA
Pass Efficiency D: 82nd in NCAA
Total D: 97th in NCAA
Scoring D: 75th in NCAA
Even Florida Atlantic who got lit up by the sheephumpers, North Texas who got lit up by texass and Washington who got lit up by us have better numbers.
Here are the only schools with worse numbers that us in total defense - ALL other D1 teams have better.
So my 2 questions are: WTF? and WTF?
This is NOT ACCEPTABLE.
98 Central Mich. 3 228 1211 5.31 12 403.67 1 2 0
99 Louisiana Tech 2 145 808 5.57 10 404.00 1 1 0
100 Purdue 3 217 1222 5.63 12 407.33 3 0 0
101 Rice 3 189 1223 6.47 13 407.67 0 3 0
102 Mississippi 3 218 1225 5.62 11 408.33 1 2 0
103 Kentucky 3 205 1236 6.03 11 412.00 2 1 0
103 Air Force 1 61 412 6.75 4 412.00 0 1 0
105 Eastern Mich. 3 211 1241 5.88 14 413.67 0 3 0
106 Buffalo 3 191 1253 6.56 11 417.67 1 2 0
107 UNLV 3 199 1273 6.40 9 424.33 1 2 0
108 UTEP 2 147 863 5.87 7 431.50 1 1 0
109 Utah St. 3 205 1318 6.43 14 439.33 0 3 0
110 San Jose St. 2 137 886 6.47 10 443.00 1 1 0
111 Ball St. 3 195 1341 6.88 10 447.00 1 2 0
112 Northern Ill. 3 207 1346 6.50 12 448.67 1 2 0
113 Boston College 3 240 1392 5.80 9 464.00 3 0 0
113 UCF 3 207 1392 6.72 11 464.00 1 2 0
115 Idaho 3 192 1420 7.40 14 473.33 1 2 0
116 Stanford 3 218 1437 6.59 15 479.00 0 3 0
117 La.-Lafayette 2 131 965 7.37 13 482.50 0 2 0
118 Tulane 2 147 971 6.61 10 485.50 1 1 0
119 Temple 3 205 1475 7.20 17 491.67 0 3 0
KingDavid
9/17/2006, 02:12 PM
not ready to have an intelligent football conversation yet. need more time with rage. please press pause on this thread.
TrophyCollector
9/17/2006, 02:15 PM
Oh, and P.S.
We have a grand total of 2 big sacks on the season which puts us in a tie for:
105th in the NCAA.
FaninAma
9/17/2006, 02:17 PM
That is horrible. It sure looks like there's a breakdown somewhere in the defense. It would be one thng if we were stopping the run but still giving up the big passplay. We're not stopping anything.
Sorry to say but the Bobby Jack Wright move to DB has not been successful to this point and for whatever reason the entire defens has taken a huge step backwards under Brent.
TrophyCollector
9/17/2006, 02:22 PM
That is horrible. It sure looks like there's a breakdown somewhere in the defense.
...the entire defens has taken a huge step backwards under Brent.
Yep, these numbers are far worse than Rex Ryan rolled out there. I am just not understanding how this happened. And don't say it's the talent, good lord - we don't have as much talent as TCU?
If we had the TCU defense, we'd be unstoppable.
King Crimson
9/17/2006, 02:28 PM
it's pretty shocking to see those numbers.
StoopTroup
9/17/2006, 02:46 PM
Nope.
It will be really bad if we have a game where some team puts them on the field all day IMO.
tulsaoilerfan
9/17/2006, 02:59 PM
IMO, it all starts up front, and we have been dominated so far; without a strong push from the tackles, and a good pass rush from the ends, the rest of the weaknesses on a team will get exposed, and that's what's happened so far; if the front 4 can step it up, that would surely help solve a lot of our problems
TrophyCollector
9/17/2006, 03:20 PM
IMO, it all starts up front, and we have been dominated so far; without a strong push from the tackles, and a good pass rush from the ends, the rest of the weaknesses on a team will get exposed, and that's what's happened so far; if the front 4 can step it up, that would surely help solve a lot of our problems
Yes, it would help, but let's be honest here - we have been sucking it up at every position on D. Everyone is missing tackles, everyone is out of position, play calling is bad. It is a comprehensive effort that earns you rankings like #97.
GottaHavePride
9/17/2006, 04:24 PM
Even Rufus - and I think we can all agree Rufus is NFL-quality talent - hasn't looked very good. And we've SEEN him dominate a game before, so what has changed? did Rufus somehow get worse (unlikely, I think) or is he not being properly prepared for the upcoming opponent?
TrophyCollector
9/17/2006, 09:57 PM
Even Rufus - and I think we can all agree Rufus is NFL-quality talent - hasn't looked very good. And we've SEEN him dominate a game before, so what has changed? did Rufus somehow get worse (unlikely, I think) or is he not being properly prepared for the upcoming opponent?
Well, he sure hasn't gotten better, he's not being put in the right position and he's not getting any help.
badger
9/17/2006, 10:01 PM
we haven't had pushover opponents. Give us teams like FAU and Texas A&M (holy **** did you SEE them yesterday???) and we'll take off.
TrophyCollector
9/17/2006, 10:19 PM
we haven't had pushover opponents. Give us teams like FAU and Texas A&M (holy **** did you SEE them yesterday???) and we'll take off.
Well FAU and A&M are both ranked well ahead of us in total defense. As are osu and Army in case you were talking about the other side. So I'm not really sure what the hell your point is.
Did you also notice that powerhouse UAB scored a big fat nothing at UGA? In addition to no points, UAB was held to 163 yards of total offense - 95 via the pass and 68 vs. the run.
badger
9/17/2006, 10:20 PM
ehhh... just give us a week to rack up zee stats.
Yes, it would help, but let's be honest here - we have been sucking it up at every position on D. Everyone is missing tackles, everyone is out of position, play calling is bad. It is a comprehensive effort that earns you rankings like #97.
i agree.
some things have got to change in norman!
sooneron
9/17/2006, 10:42 PM
ehhh... just give us a week to rack up zee stats.
Yeah, but if we shut out MTSU and leave them with neg yardage, we'll still be somewhere in the 70's rating wise.
badger
9/17/2006, 10:45 PM
okay... then give us a MONTH to rack up zee stats!!!!
geez. :rolleyes:
TrophyCollector
9/17/2006, 10:46 PM
i agree.
some things have got to change in norman!
Yep, sad to say but Blake put better performing defenses on the field - we'll at least one (98).
This defense is supposed to be full of talent and is supposed to be helping a new QB adjust. Instead it has turned one instant replay into a dark day in Sooner history.
Dan Thompson
9/17/2006, 10:58 PM
OUr defense gave up 501 yards, 158 yards rushing and 343 yards passing. I don't remember the last time OU gave up that much to a team ranked as low as Oregon.
Texas Golfer
9/17/2006, 11:08 PM
Our performance thus far and those stats are sufficient justification to hand Venables his walking papers.
Pepper
9/17/2006, 11:16 PM
It's not an issue of talent. I'm no expert but it's just the players being out of position. Also, did anyone notice that we can't can't even get pressure on the qb if we bring the blitz? That's a big problem. I think the offenses must be able to read us pretty easily. We need to disguise our D better and bring in some effective blitzes.
TrophyCollector
9/17/2006, 11:20 PM
It's not an issue of talent. I'm no expert but it's just the players being out of position. Also, did anyone notice that we can't can't even get pressure on the qb if we bring the blitz? That's a big problem. I think the offenses must be able to read us pretty easily. We need to disguise our D better and bring in some effective blitzes.
Excellent observation!
rhombic21
12/3/2006, 01:36 AM
Our performance thus far and those stats are sufficient justification to hand Venables his walking papers.
Great post.
stoopified
12/3/2006, 01:41 AM
Our performance thus far and those stats are sufficient justification to hand Venables his walking papers.Not so fast,my friend.
Texas Golfer
12/3/2006, 01:45 AM
Brent saved his job with the turnaround. Had the Sooners continued their pace to finish around 97th in total defense, the Sooners wouldn't have been playing tonight, we'd probably be around 8-4 and Brent would be gone.
Very few DCs remain when your defense ends up 97th.
MamaMia
12/3/2006, 02:19 AM
Great post.Instead of trying to stir up trouble, why don't you make yourself useful and get us the new stats?
Instead of trying to stir up trouble, why don't you make yourself useful and get us the new stats?
why don't you make YOURSELF useful, and go get me some cookies? :D
MamaMia
12/3/2006, 02:38 AM
why don't you make YOURSELF useful, and go get me some cookies? :D
No cookies for you! :P
Soonerfan1993
12/3/2006, 05:15 AM
They said what changed, was instead of going aginst the scout team every day they went 1's vs 1's..
Gandalf_The_Grey
12/3/2006, 05:21 AM
In all honesty if anybody thought a Stoops team was going to continue to stay around 97th in the country in Total Defense, you were either ignorant or had a blind hatred of all things Venables. We shouldn't dig up post though, Alot of people were implying Stoops should leave after our start. People were saying we would be lucky to win the Independence Bowl. People were in full meltdown mode around here
TrophyCollector
12/3/2006, 08:00 PM
Was our D playing poorly first 3 games? - yes. Did they turn it around and become one of the best D units in the NCAA and win the Big XII Championship? - yes.
What exactly is the issue in dragging this old post up? There weren't too many people praising the D after the Oregon game. All I said was that it wasn't acceptable - which it wasn't - and that it needed to be fixed - which it was, in a big way.
Boomer Sooner
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