9/11 conspiracy geeks!

[picasso]

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html

enjoy.

[Oldnslo]

pfft. As if all those experts actually know anything. I've got opinions, and nobody is going to change my mind.

[GrapevineSooner]

And the government used voice-morphing cenrorectovators to simulate those cell phone calls that were presumably made by the passengers. We all know they were all in on the conspiracy and are all actually living in a small island in the South Pacific.

;)

[LosAngelesSooner]

This is a cool video of exactly how to deal with people who think that 9/11 was a conspiracy created by the U.S.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Aap2Exhavo&mode=related&search=

[OklahomaTuba]

Here are some more pictures of the ****heads at ground zero yesterday, defiling this sacred ground...
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These assbrains sicken me. These are not people, they are vile pos scum who don't deserve to walk this earth. MAY THEY ROT IN HELL!!

[LosAngelesSooner]

They shouldn't "rot in hell" for holding up signs that show how incredibly stupid they are. The terrorists should "rot in hell" for blowing up the buildings.

Man...have you forgotten that free speech is allowed in the U.S. no matter how stupid the things being said are? I mean...you LIVE by that rule. You shouldn't have a problem with those idiots doing the same thing. :rolleyes:

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

And the government used voice-morphing cenrorectovators to simulate those cell phone calls that were presumably made by the passengers. We all know they were all in on the conspiracy and are all actually living in a small island in the South Pacific.

;)

It's actually Lost!!! They had to do something to keep those people happy, so they stuck them on an island with Evangeline Lily!!

[OklahomaTuba]

They shouldn't "rot in hell" for holding up signs that show how incredibly stupid they are. The terrorists should "rot in hell" for blowing up the buildings.

Man...have you forgotten that free speech is allowed in the U.S. no matter how stupid the things being said are? I mean...you LIVE by that rule. You shouldn't have a problem with those idiots doing the same thing. :rolleyes:
This isn't free speech on display LAS. This isn't dissent.

This is an organized effort by some group to pin the largest attack in US history on Americans. This is an effort to undermine our executive branch of government. This is slander and this is a disgrace. And, on top of it, to do this on GROUND ZERO on 9-11 is just disgusting. These people WILL rot in hell, with their friends in AQ, the Taliban, Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, North Korea and Venezuala that say them same damn things.

[SoonerBorn68]

I wonder if those conspiracy nuts would be out there if there was a democrat in office at the time of the attacks?

I think these people hate GWB so much they're willing to give up their sanity.

[soonerscuba]

And the government used voice-morphing cenrorectovators to simulate those cell phone calls that were presumably made by the passengers. We all know they were all in on the conspiracy and are all actually living in a small island in the South Pacific.

;)

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[LosAngelesSooner]

This isn't free speech on display LAS. This isn't dissent.

This is an organized effort by some group to pin the largest attack in US history on Americans. This is an effort to undermine our executive branch of government. This is slander and this is a disgrace. And, on top of it, to do this on GROUND ZERO on 9-11 is just disgusting. These people WILL rot in hell, with their friends in AQ, the Taliban, Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, North Korea and Venezuala that say them same damn things.
It's still free speech.

It's still protected by the U.S. Constitution.

It's still stupid and those people are idiots, but the Constitution protects idiots. It's part of America.

The minute you show me that they're planning an attack on the White House or a presidential assasination, then...THEN I say "**** em" they can rot in hell. But until then...they are still Americans. They are still our brothers and sisters. Just our idiot brothers and sisters.

[LosAngelesSooner]

I wonder if those conspiracy nuts would be out there if there was a democrat in office at the time of the attacks?

I think these people hate GWB so much they're willing to give up their sanity.
Of COURSE they would! These are the same jerkoffs who think we didn't land on the moon. These aren't Democrats or Republicans...they're anti-establishment nutjobs. They're complete whackos and idiots.

They hate "government" of any kind. The color of tie the Prez in Powah wears doens't matter to them.

You'd be hard pressed to find someone who hates or disrespects "Pres" Bush more than I and I certainly don't think he "caused 9/11" or was happy that it happened.

[SoonerBorn68]

Yeah, but you're only half crazy. :D

I'm talking about the Sheehan types who are so filled with hate they'd use any excuse to hate GWB even more.

One of the guys I worked with told me he thought 9/11 was a government conpiracy--and until that point I thought he was a pretty smart guy...Ended up calling him a dumbass to his face. :)

[Grimey]

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[OklahomaTuba]

OH.

MY.

GAWD.

Thats so f'king pathetic I actually did laugh out loud. Is that really on a democratic website???? HOly shiat.

[SCOUT]

Man...have you forgotten that free speech is allowed in the U.S. no matter how stupid the things being said are? I mean...you LIVE by that rule. You shouldn't have a problem with those idiots doing the same thing. :rolleyes:

Free speech is indeed allowed and it can have very real consequences.

Colonel Bui Tin, who served on the general staff of the North Vietnamese Army and received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30,1975, had this to say recently in a Wall Street Journal interview.


Support for the war from our rear was completely secure while the American rear was vulnerable. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9AM to follow the growth of the antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by Jane Fonda and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and would struggle along with us ... those people represented the conscience of America ....part of it's war-making capability, and we were turning that power in our favor.

[LosAngelesSooner]

OH.

MY.

GAWD.

Thats so f'king pathetic I actually did laugh out loud. Is that really on a democratic website???? HOly shiat. Well, I have to agree with you. That's just plain STUPID.

[GottaHavePride]

Wow. That dude is so ignorant it's not even funny.

1. That steel mesh has WAY more vertical load-bearing members (as far as scale is concerned) than a normal skyscraper. Also, they're much more closely spaced, reducing the load on each of the load-bearing members.

2. Different hydrocarbons burn at different temperatures. Kerosene does not = jet fuel. You can light kerosene with a match - lighting jet fuel is somewhat morre difficult. Jet fuel can probaly reach temperatures that will disrupt the metallic structure of steel. Kerosene can not - that's why camp stoves WITH STEEL GRATES use kerosene or propane fuel and not jet fuel. Dumb****.

[Widescreen]

Well, the conspiracy theories have been given additional credibility today.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_p091208A.xml.html


Theory that U.S. orchestrated Sept. 11 attacks 'not absurd': Venezuela

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - President Hugo Chavez said Tuesday that it's at least plausible that the U.S. government was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks.

Chavez did not specifically accuse the U.S. government of having a hand in the Sept. 11 attacks, but rather suggested that theories of U.S. involvement bear examination.

The Venezuelan leader, an outspoken critic of U.S. President George W. Bush, was reacting to a television report investigating a theory that the Twin Towers were brought down with explosives after hijacked airplanes crashed into them in 2001.

"The hypothesis is not absurd . . . that those towers could have been dynamited," Chavez said in a speech to supporters. "A building never collapses like that, unless it's with an implosion."

"The hypothesis that is gaining strength . . . is that it was the same U.S. imperial power that planned and carried out this terrible terrorist attack or act against its own people and against citizens of all over the world," Chavez said.

"Why? To justify the aggressions that immediately were unleashed on Afghanistan, on Iraq."

Chavez has said the U.S. launched those wars to ensure its political and economic power.

The U.S. government says al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden masterminded the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

"A plane supposedly crashed into the Pentagon, but no one ever found a single remnant of that plane," Chavez said, citing a television program he had seen on Venezuela's state television.

Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro raised the same theories in an earlier speech Tuesday, and called for an independent investigation.

"It's really worrisome to think that all of that could have been a great conspiracy against humanity," Maduro said. "An independent international investigation must be carried out one day to discover the truth about the events of Sept. 11."

[GrapevineSooner]

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I give this Moonbat an 'A' for creativity.

[GrapevineSooner]

BTW, I agree with LAS on the free speech issue.

Give them all the rope they want. They'll just wind up hanging their credibility with it.

[picasso]

Here are some more pictures of the ****heads at ground zero yesterday, defiling this sacred ground...
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These assbrains sicken me. These are not people, they are vile pos scum who don't deserve to walk this earth. MAY THEY ROT IN HELL!!
ummm dude, I really didn't start this thread to look at more pictures of protestors, etc.
I simply wanted to share what I'd heard about the book by said website/magazine.

[jeremy885]

I wonder if those conspiracy nuts would be out there if there was a democrat in office at the time of the attacks?

I think these people hate GWB so much they're willing to give up their sanity.

You would replace the ones who think Bush planned 9/11 to start the Iraq war with the nutcases saying it was the UN and the people with the black helicopters trying to conquer America.

[Hatfield]

I wonder if those conspiracy nuts would be out there if there was a democrat in office at the time of the attacks?

I think these people hate GWB so much they're willing to give up their sanity.


yes they would be.

see conspiracy nuts make no distinction between elephant or donkey....they see no difference....a la... everything is a conspiracy.

[Vaevictis]

The real key is the fodder the White House and Congress are giving them. The White House has been unbelievably secretive about everything, and until Bush's recent slide in the polls, Congress has had a near phobic avoidance of their Constitutional duty to provide oversight.

Now that Congress is starting to actually do its job, they'll start casting light into the secret shadows, and the conspiracy theorists will have less to work with.

[picasso]

The real key is the fodder the White House and Congress are giving them. The White House has been unbelievably secretive about everything, and until Bush's recent slide in the polls, Congress has had a near phobic avoidance of their Constitutional duty to provide oversight.

Now that Congress is starting to actually do its job, they'll start casting light into the secret shadows, and the conspiracy theorists will have less to work with.
how so exactly? I don't want the white house to stand up and publicly explain how we do things to keep people safe in our country.
I also don't want every frickin detail of 9/11 made public to Joe Turban.

Just fix what's wrong and don't let it happen again.

conspiracy nuts still think we never landed on the moon ya know.

[Vaevictis]

how so exactly? I don't want the white house to stand up and publicly explain how we do things to keep people safe in our country.
I also don't want every frickin detail of 9/11 made public to Joe Turban.

Just fix what's wrong and don't let it happen again.

The problem isn't that the White House is secretive. That's not abnormal. The problem is that the Congress has been remiss in providing oversight.

Basically, Congress is the primary authority responsible for providing oversight, and when Congress refuses to do that job, then people can be convinced that, "Gee, well, if Congress isn't doing it, then NOBODY IS!"

In other words, if Congress did a good job of providing opposition to the president like it's supposed to, and Congress said, "There's nothing to be seen here, move along," a lot of people who might tend towards believing in conspiracy would take them at their word and move along.



conspiracy nuts still think we never landed on the moon ya know.

Yeah, and when has a poll on that shown that 40%+ of Americans think the government is covering it up?

[picasso]

40% think our government is covering up details on 9/11? If so I would be interested in seeing how the question was posed. I would buy that but not the idea that WE performed the actual attacks.

also, the nutballs would still be out in full force regardless of congressional oversight or Bushie doing a live powerpoint discussion.

good point though.

[OklahomaTuba]

The White House has been unbelievably secretive about everything, and until Bush's recent slide in the polls, Congress has had a near phobic avoidance of their Constitutional duty to provide oversight.

How are they anymore "secretive" than past administrations during a war?

If the executive branch tried to fight this war like you seem to be proposing, I don't think we would have a freaking chance.

[LosAngelesSooner]

how so exactly? I don't want the white house to stand up and publicly explain how we do things to keep people safe in our country.
I also don't want every frickin detail of 9/11 made public to Joe Turban.

Just fix what's wrong and don't let it happen again.

conspiracy nuts still think we never landed on the moon ya know. http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1538537&postcount=12
Copycat!

:(
*sniffle*



;)

[OklahomaTuba]

Yeah, and when has a poll on that shown that 40%+ of Americans think the government is covering it up?
I blame the collapse of the public school system myself, oh and Brian Britt, that bastard.

[LosAngelesSooner]

The problem isn't that the White House is secretive. That's not abnormal. The problem is that the Congress has been remiss in providing oversight.
I would feel a lot better about everything going on in America, even having Bush in office still (which I still think sucks for us), if we had a Democratic Congress to balance it out. And if a Dem gets the White House in 2008 (unlikely) then a Repub congress.

Just my opinion. I think balance is good.

[Vaevictis]

40% think our government is covering up details on 9/11? If so I would be interested in seeing how the question was posed. I would buy that but not the idea that WE performed the actual attacks.

I recall seeing that 40%+ of the American public (in a poll) believes that we need further investigation of 9/11.

(of course, I think that something is not being disclosed, and I don't think that there's a problem with that. Some stuff needs to stay secret.)


also, the nutballs would still be out in full force regardless of congressional oversight or Bushie doing a live powerpoint discussion.

Agree, but there are always people who are persuadable either way, and if Congress was doing a good job of providing oversight, a lot of those people wouldn't even give the nutjobs the time of day. Which is my main point.

[Vaevictis]

How are they anymore "secretive" than past administrations during a war?

If the executive branch tried to fight this war like you seem to be proposing, I don't think we would have a freaking chance.

The administration being secretive with the public is normal and expected in a time of war. The administration being as secretive as it is with Congress is not. And Congress refusing to pursue oversight is not either.

(Like I said, this is all changing now that Bush is 40%- in the polls and is a drag on re-election for some Congressmen. But for the longest time, oversight was a word that wasn't in the dictionary of the Republican Congress.)

[Geekboy]

Here's the deal. 9-11 was a plot carried out by subterranean giants that live in the North Pole. I can't get into the details of why they did this at this point in time.

But I will say this. The burden of proof is on YOU to prove me wrong.

[WILBURJIM]

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He should have built his "model" 10 feet tall and in proportion to one of the WTC towers, and stood on top of that. Now that would be and experiment to see.:D

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Now that Congress is starting to actually do its job, they'll start casting light into the secret shadows, and the conspiracy theorists will have less to work with.

BWA HAHA Seriously?

[TrophyCollector]

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If you really believe that **** on those signs you are holding, then pick up a rifle and do something about it you ****ing pussies!!!

The English Crown wasn't nearly that ****ed up and we took them out. What are you waiting for?