Peterson’s father won’t be at UT game

[colleyvillesooner]

Per DMN blog:

http://colleges.beloblog.com/archives/2006/09/petersons_father_wont_be_at_ut_game.html#more


Peterson’s father won’t be at UT game
Nelson Peterson, Adrian’s father, said federal officials have denied his request to attend the Texas-Oklahoma game on Oct. 7 at the Cotton Bowl. Peterson said he also won’t be able to attend an OU game in Norman until the Oct. 14 matchup against Iowa State.

Peterson is scheduled to be released from an Oklahoma City halfway house on Oct. 5 — two days before the Texas-OU game. But federal officials require that parolees stay within their district for 30 days after their release date. Thus, Peterson said he won’t be able to attend a game until mid-October.

Nelson Peterson is completing a sentence for laundering money acquired through the distribution of crack cocaine in Palestine, Texas.

"It's very unfortunate," Peterson said by phone Thursday. “I asked my probation officer, and he took it to his chief supervisor, and they made the final say-so that I couldn’t go. I'm keeping a positive attitude about the whole situation."


Peterson said he’s been surprised at the reaction within Oklahoma about offensive coordinator Kevin Wilson's comments. Wilson said Tuesday that Adrian Peterson didn’t play his best game against Alabama-Birmingham and said, "I told him after the game, 'If you’re a man, you need to go ahead and tell those guys you didn’t play your best.' "

"About 90 percent of the people here took that as a ripping," Nelson Peterson said. "I haven’t got one person — maybe one out of 30 — who asked me about it that agreed with what Coach Wilson was doing. As a father, I try to keep Adrian’s mind strong and let Coach [Bob] Stoops and Coach Wilson coach the tem and do what they do. I don't want to interfere.

"I believe in Coach Wilson, and I’ve told him before, 'Don’t give Adrian anything free.' "

[JohnnyMack]

Power trip much?

[TheUnnamedSooner]

Man, that is crap. They need to let him go, for Adrian not Nelson

[#1-Erin-Higgins-Fan]

That SUX!!!

[sooner13f]

It is too bad that he cant attend the games but I guess the law is the law. I loved what he said about Coach Wilson. As a father I would feel the same way. He wants Adrian to be a leader of the team which means bringing your "A" game every time.

[trey]

that's ridiculous....i'm sure he's a huge threat to society.:rolleyes:

[OUGreg723]

Well, that's a shame. I am glad he will be able to see his son play on Oct. 14th though.

[sooner969]

Where were these dip****s when we were offered Bin Laden??

[hybridworks]

Where were these dip****s when we were offered Bin Laden??

What?

[mrowl]

if he would have stayed in the halfway house in Dallas, this would not have been a problem.

[soonerlaw]

Oh well, it will be all the better when he does get to see AD play, which means a guaranteed a$$ whipping of ISU.

[BigRedJed]

From everything I've heard, he's been a model inmate. It seems common sense would have prevailed on that one. If he's been released from the halfway house, find a way to let him go. He probably gladly would have traded some community service time or something of the like for a chance to see his son play in what is likely to be his last RRS.

Sometimes the spirit of the law should be more important than the letter of the law. Unnamed had it right when he said this probably hurts AD more than it even hurts his pops. This (his OU career) is the type of experience a kid only gets once (made even more rare by how special his career has been), and the simple satisfaction a kid can have from knowing his dad is in the stands watching it play out is impossible to place a value on.

[Texas Golfer]

Maybe he could go if his parole officer was allowed to go with him. I'm sure the team could get a couple of tickets to the game as long as the team doesn't provide them. We don't want to violate any NCAA rules about showing favoritism to one player's family.

[C&CDean]

This is one criminal who is serving his time. It does not matter who he's related to. I can't believe anyone would want somebody's sentence reduced just because of who his kid is. Seriously. If his dad cared so much about seeing the boy play, he shouldn't have done the ****. Now he pays for it. As he should.

[auto]

have to love the "war on drugs" biggest joke in American History

[BigRedJed]

This is one criminal who is serving his time. It does not matter who he's related to. I can't believe anyone would want somebody's sentence reduced just because of who his kid is. Seriously. If his dad cared so much about seeing the boy play, he shouldn't have done the ****. Now he pays for it. As he should.
I agree that he was at fault here. But he's done his time. And heck, he might even agree to do a little extra AFTER this if they would let him go. It's not unprecedented; they let people go to weddings, funerals, etc. sometimes, if they're not deemed to be threats. If he were still in the pokey, no way; He belongs in the pokey. But this guy is out, in society, walking the streets, and I'm guessing holding down a job.

I am glad to hear that he's apparently being a man about it. Although these things have been reported, I haven't heard him whining about it or blaming anybody. He seems disappointed, but also willing to work within the system.

[C&CDean]

have to love the "war on drugs" biggest joke in American History

This might possibly be the most out-of-leftfield post I've ever seen. Bong much?

[Texas Golfer]

This is one criminal who is serving his time. It does not matter who he's related to. I can't believe anyone would want somebody's sentence reduced just because of who his kid is. Seriously. If his dad cared so much about seeing the boy play, he shouldn't have done the ****. Now he pays for it. As he should.

His sentence won't be reduced. He would have already served his time. It's just the 30 day travel restrictions assessed to parolees that is being discussed. As long as he's with his parole officer, he's being supervised. He'll still be a "free" man.

[C&CDean]

30-day travel restriction is part of the sentence.

If this were Vince Young's father y'all would be "**** him, let him rot, do your time....." Right? Right.

[BigRedJed]

I've got to say, I probably would have had the same soft stance on VY's dad, given exactly the same circumstances. Some things are bigger than football rivalries.

Neg away, everyone.

[FroggyStyle22]

Maybe it will make AD stay around so his dad can watch him play UT next year..........Maybe not.

[Soonerinoz]

OK, I'm really nervous making only my second post of all time on soonerfans on such a heated topic (I went with post #1 on a relatively safe issue: whether or not The Pride sucks), but I thought I might be able to offer some insight on this one. I want to make one thing very clear, though: I have no personal knowledge of the policies of the OKC probation office, or Mr. Peterson's case specifically:

I work in the federal system in Kansas, and am not surprised that Mr. Peterson has been denied travel for OU-Texas. Each federal district has policies about people under supervision being allowed to travel outside the state, or district, in which they reside. In Kansas, people under supervision are restricted from traveling outside the state for 60 days after they are released, unless in event of a serious family emergency. I know we would all consider OU-Texas an emergency, but I'm sure the office in OKC will be sensitive to not giving the appearance that they are giving Mr. Peterson any special treatment or privileges.

Travel outside your state of residence is something that's considered a privilege while serving your term of supervised release, and is typically only granted when a person is in compliance with all of their other conditions imposed by the court. The restriction against travel is designed to see how a person does initially on supervision before they are allowed to travel outside their state. The transition from imprisonment to being back in the community can be a difficult one. I know it probably seems ridiculous to someone outside the system that his travel request has been denied, but don't blame the PO. He/she is just doing their job.

[sooner969]

This might possibly be the most out-of-leftfield post I've ever seen. Bong much?
The "war" on drugs is a ****ing flop, period. It's a dry hole but that's ok, feel free to toe the line if it helps you sleep better. This is just more BS that's part of it.

[47straight]

I'm just glad that Pa Peterson has thus far displayed a whole lot of class with everything. As a sooner fan I really appreciate it, and wish nothing but the best for him for a second start.

[C&CDean]

The "war" on drugs is a ****ing flop, period. It's a dry hole but that's ok, feel free to toe the line if it helps you sleep better. This is just more BS that's part of it.

Uh, OK? Thank you?

And I'll wager I've spilled more weed than you'll ever smoke munchkin. I've learned through years of personal experience that drugs suck giant penis. Obviously you haven't learned that lesson. Yet. Lord willing, you'll grow up some day and see what I'm talking about.

And if you think it's cool for folks to be doing crack/meth etc. (which is what Nelson Peterson has been incarcerated for - well laundering $$ for crack heads) I should probably just go ahead and bane you for stupiding up our message board. Lord knows we've already got plenty of dumbasses already around here.....

[AlbqSooner]

From everything I have read, I suspect that Nelson Peterson realizes that if this is the worst thing that happens to him this year he will be a very blessed man.

Read the post by Soonerinoz carefully. Nelson Peterson is not getting special treatment because of who his son is; neither special treatment by letting him go nor special treatment by prohibiting his travel.

[Jimminy Crimson]

I wonder if since Barry's boy is govna right now, and a big OU fan at that, he could get a little governors blessing...

[Fraggle145]

Maybe it'll help his decision to STAY so that his dad can see him at OU next year!?

[47straight]

I wonder if since Barry's boy is govna right now, and a big OU fan at that, he could get a little governors blessing...

I think that the beef is with the gringo federales, not the state.

[BermudaSooner]

But this guy is out, in society, walking the streets, and I'm guessing holding down a job.

I believe he works at Jackie Cooper.

Considering some of the comments made by the father of a former player, it is refreshing to see a dad with a great attitude. His comments about Wilson's critcism are good to hear.

[stoopified]

This is one criminal who is serving his time. It does not matter who he's related to. I can't believe anyone would want somebody's sentence reduced just because of who his kid is. Seriously. If his dad cared so much about seeing the boy play, he shouldn't have done the ****. Now he pays for it. As he should.Little harsh there C&C,although your reasoning is sound. As a former police officer I understand your point altough I do think if he were escorted by a parole officer or law enforcement member it could be allowed.It IS ridiculous that he is allowed to drive back and forth to his job in Edmond by himself but can't be allowed to attend a game in Norman at least.

[BigRedJed]

Not to mention, by the RRS he won't even be in a halfway house. He will be fully integrated into mainstream life, with his only restrictions being to check in with a P.O.

Look, I would say they same thing if it were a dad whose daughter was graduating HS as valedictorian, and wanted to attend. The guy has served his time. He's completed his time in a halfway house. He has by all accounts I've read been a model inmate. He has shown remorse for his crime, and not been the type of POS that denies that he did wrong, or that the system is out to get him.

I agree with Dean that it shouldn't matter who his son is, or that he get special treatment. I'm only saying that I'm sure exceptions have been made to these types of policies for other people with special circumstances, and probably could have been made here. Maybe, in the grand scheme of things, he doesn't deserve to go to the RRS, but you can't tell me that AD doesn't deserve to have his father in the stands, cheering him on, if it didn't hurt anybody. Heck, every kid on that field deserves that.

And yes, I know that at the end of the day, his dad's ultimately the one who's to blame.

[okienole3]

This is one criminal who is serving his time. It does not matter who he's related to. I can't believe anyone would want somebody's sentence reduced just because of who his kid is. Seriously. If his dad cared so much about seeing the boy play, he shouldn't have done the ****. Now he pays for it. As he should.

I agree 100% with everything in this post.

[poke4christ]

Dean has it down in this argument. I agree that it REALLY sucks not to be able to see his son play, but he will be out in time to see the last few games and the bowl game (maybe big 12 championship). The descision not to allow him to go is the correct one. Also, lets not forget that OU is on TV almost every weekend. He can watch the games on TV. He'll be able to see his son and congradulate him in person before he is done at OU. For now, he can just call him after the game.

Zach

[poke4christ]

Look, I would say they same thing if it were a dad whose daughter was graduating HS as valedictorian, and wanted to attend. The guy has served his time. He's completed his time in a halfway house. He has by all accounts I've read been a model inmate. He has shown remorse for his crime, and not been the type of POS that denies that he did wrong, or that the system is out to get him.

I was under the impression that he is still at the half house and only allowed to travel for work purposes.

Zach

[BigRedJed]

I think the point everyone is missing here is that he will be "out" by the RRS. In fact, he is already "out." He will have, by that point, satisfied EVERY institutional requirement, including having moved out of the halfway house and becoming fully integrated into society. This is not a discussion about letting him out of the pokey in leg irons and an orange jumpsuit to see the game. This is a discussion about the guy who might have been in the checkout line next to you at Target yesterday, or getting gas at the other pump at 7-11 this morning.

Again, I understand that the decision was only sticking to policy, and nobody is trying to do anybody wrong. All I'm saying is there are times when the spirit of the law makes more sense than the letter of the law.

[BigRedJed]

I was under the impression that he is still at the half house and only allowed to travel for work purposes.

Zach
Nope, he will have been released from the halfway house by that point. The only thing that keeps him from going is a standard travel restriction on people who've just been released from custody.

He's in the halfway house now, but will be out by then.

[poke4christ]

Nope, he will have been released from the halfway house by that point. The only thing that keeps him from going is a standard travel restriction on people who've just been released from custody.

He's in the halfway house now, but will be out by then.

Okay, now I get it. Sorry. I was thinking Right now while you were thinking UT game. That said, I would agree he should be able to go if he is out. However, if the general travel restriction has been in place for a while, I don't think they should change the rules for just him. I don't know how common exceptions to that rule are. A football game (though important for a father to see his son) is still a entertainment event and its difficult to argue getting out of the rules for it.

I guess you guys weren't really arguing that he should be able to go to the games while he is in the house.

Zach

[BigRedJed]

No question.

[MiccoMacey]

This is one criminal who is serving his time. It does not matter who he's related to. I can't believe anyone would want somebody's sentence reduced just because of who his kid is. Seriously. If his dad cared so much about seeing the boy play, he shouldn't have done the ****. Now he pays for it. As he should.

If there were no circumstances that allowed for any parolee to be "released" from these requirements, I would easily say that he needs to remain in Oklahoma under the rules in place. I have no problem with the Tony Barretta theme of your post.

As it is, there are circumstances and events that have been allowed for some people to go outside of these standard travel restrictions. A father watching his son play in a college-level football game, which in all honesty is something very few fathers will ever get a chance to do, especially one as big as this rivalry is, is something I would see as one of those special circumstances.

Also, when ALL sentences become mandatory, and all criminals receive the same sentence for the same crime, your argument will have more bite. As it stands, sentences and rulings like these are all arbitrary, being left to the discretion of a judge or panel. They are different for every criminal who goes through the process. Which means to me that any "restrictions" placed on someone has to be looked at as reasonably up for discussion (on a message board).

BTW, I'm not looking at this through the eyes of a judicial/criminal system viewpoint, but rather from a father who wants just a tad bit of mercy and leniency for another father.

[daMentor]

I don't think there's anything wrong with not letting him go to the game. The PO or whoever made the decision made the right one. Judging by how well AD plays there will be plenty of ball games for the old man to go see. That's how the P.O. sees the OU/UT game as just another ball game. It's not a once in a lifetime type of situation to him. Now, to many of us the OU/UT game this year might be viewed as a once in a lifetime type of ordeal, since AD probably won't be around next year. If it were a wedding or a funeral or a graduation or some sort of a once in a lifetime or emergency situation, I'm sure he would be allowed to go.

[BigRedJed]

I have it on good authority that a wedding is not neccessarily a once-in-a-lifetime situation.

[BigRedJed]

If there were no circumstances that allowed for any parolee to be "released" from these requirements, I would easily say that he needs to remain in Oklahoma under the rules in place. I have no problem with the Tony Barretta theme of your post.

As it is, there are circumstances and events that have been allowed for some people to go outside of these standard travel restrictions. A father watching his son play in a college-level football game, which in all honesty is something very few fathers will ever get a chance to do, especially one as big as this rivalry is, is something I would see as one of those special circumstances.

Also, when ALL sentences become mandatory, and all criminals receive the same sentence for the same crime, your argument will have more bite. As it stands, sentences and rulings like these are all arbitrary, being left to the discretion of a judge or panel. They are different for every criminal who goes through the process. Which means to me that any "restrictions" placed on someone has to be looked at as reasonably up for discussion (on a message board).

BTW, I'm not looking at this through the eyes of a judicial/criminal system viewpoint, but rather from a father who wants just a tad bit of mercy and leniency for another father.
Excellent post. I've got to add that I'm looking at it more from the viewpoint of the kid, who's done nothing wrong here.

Again, if travel exceptions have been made for weddings, funerals, graduations and the like (I don't know that they have, just guessing...) this would be an appropriate place to do so, IMO. Heck, I've heard of people getting out of the big house, accompanied by officers, to attend weddings and the like. Something I very likely would NOT support.

[MiccoMacey]

Heck, I've heard of people getting out of the big house, accompanied by officers, to attend weddings and the like. Something I very likely would NOT support.

Me neither, but that's not what we're talking about.

[BigRedJed]

Me neither, but that's not what we're talking about.
You're right. We're talking about a man who, by that point in time, will be indistinguishible from you and me, having served his time in prison and in the halfway house. A man who, we hope, is a contributing member of society, employed, with the ability to come and go as he sees fit, as long as he's not breaking any laws, with his only remaining responsiblities to society being to check in with a parole officer on a regular basis.

You could sit next to him in a movie theater, a bookstore, or be in line with him at the post office and not know the difference.

[soonerreign]

What's done is done. If the rules say he can't leave the district, then he shouldn't be able to leave the district. I'm sure the rules were put in place for a reason. I believe we should leave well enough alone and go on to more important things like discussing the relative boneheadedness of ex-OU quarterbacks or somesuch.

[BigRedJed]

I believe I'll talk about whatever the **** I want to talk about. It's a message board. That's what we do here.

[soonerreign]

You certainly have the right to do so. I apologize for inadvertently insinuating that you didn't.

[CatfishSooner]

I bet the PO is an aggie...

[auto]

This might possibly be the most out-of-leftfield post I've ever seen. Bong much?


Whatever. The war on drugs is a feel good measure that accomplishes absolutely nothing except a consumption of resources. Talk to feet on the street LEO's and even some Fed's, the war is a fallacy. We as a nation should see this doesn't work. Much better things to spend money on.:cool: and with regard to your other comment about spilling more weed,=..................uh whatever. I grew up in Alaska, I think if you know much about anything on the weed subject, you can figure it out.

[Zing]

Whatever. The war on drugs is a feel good measure that accomplishes absolutely nothing except a consumption of resources.

In case if you missed it, auto, your comment was completely non-sequitur because NOBODY was talking about the war on drugs. It'd be like me coming in and saying "Well, there you have it, then. I don't much like taxis, either."

[CatfishSooner]

Tax's suck!

[Readyfor8]

I love the word potato.

[LSUdeek]

In case if you missed it, auto, your comment was completely non-sequitur because NOBODY was talking about the war on drugs. It'd be like me coming in and saying "Well, there you have it, then. I don't much like taxis, either."

He just felt the need to let everyone else know that he smokes hella weed.

[auto]

In case if you missed it, auto, your comment was completely non-sequitur because NOBODY was talking about the war on drugs. It'd be like me coming in and saying "Well, there you have it, then. I don't much like taxis, either."


Really??? We are talking about Nelson Peterson's father not being allowed to go the OU-TX game, right??

Why??? He's on probation to charge directly related to the selling of Narcotics, which directly relates to this country's war on drugs. I would infer with your specifc latin reference you are either an attorney or attended Catholic school, which would infer an ability to draw a line from point A to B. :rolleyes: