Openers under Stoops

[Spray]

Openers:

2006: OU 24 UAB 17
2005: TCU 17 OU 10
2004: OU 40 BG 24
2003: OU 37 North Texas 3
2002: OU 37 Tulsa 0 (remember this was 3-0 at halftime)
2001: OU 41 UNC 27
2000: OU 55 UTEP 14
1999: OU 49 Indiana St. 0

Don't really have a point, other than to say Saturday night didn't really surprise me. Other than '99 and '00 I seem to remember much hand-wringing about some sort of disappointing play, be it offense or defense.

Also, if you go back and look at September under Stoops, the defense usually lays a few eggs before hitting their stride in October. It just seems to characteristic of Stoops teams to be slow starters working out the kinks in September.

BTW, I could be way off- just an armchair QB's perspective.

[PDXsooner]

i also remember OU struggling with overmatched alabama in 2002 and 2003 early in the season. those teams turned out pretty well...

[sooner94]

I'm not worried. The biggest concern coming into the game was the QB position, and I think everyone should be pleasantly surprised. I think PT is going to do well this year, especially with more game experience.

And Stoop's teams have never really been world beaters in September, yet we have managed to do OK under Coach Stoops.

We have done really well in the first week of October under Stoops, though.:D

[Salt City Sooner]

i also remember OU struggling with overmatched alabama in 2002 and 2003 early in the season. those teams turned out pretty well...
Bama wasn't up to par in '03 due to the sanctions, but they won the SEC West on the field in '02, even though they weren't eligible.

[Spray]

Here's the full Septembers:

2005:
TCU 17 OU 10
OU 31 Tulsa 15
UCLA 41 OU 24

2004:
OU 40 BG 24
OU 63 Houston 13
OU 31 Oregon 7

2003:
OU 37 North Texas 3
OU 20 Alabama 13
OU 52 Fresno St. 24

2002:
OU 37 Tulsa 0
OU 37 Alabama 27
OU 68 UTEP 0
OU 31 South Florida 14

2001:
OU 41 UNC 27
OU 44 Air Force 3
OU 37 North Texas 10
OU 38 Kansas St 37

2000:
OU 55 UTEP 14
OU 45 Arkansas St. 7
OU 42 Rice 14
OU 34 Kansas 16

1999:
OU 49 Indiana St. 0
OU 41 Baylor 10
OU 42 Louisville 21

There's some domination throughout to be sure, but consistency doesn't seem to be the strong suit.

[Spray]

Of course, other than the fact that we never lost in September until last year.:D

[boomrsoonr]

I'm not ready to give up Stoops yet just because of one month. ;)

[jbstrick]

I think we are trying to over analyze this. It is what it is. I feel good about the talent level and noone made any glaring mistakes. Paul handled the O quite well and with confidence.

I'm happy.

[StoopTroup]

I have personally hated the way we've played the 1st four games every year since Bob was here.

It's why I've learned to "Trust In Bob".

Every year I think we are mediocre and only twice have the whorns got past us.

The RRSO has been the true test for how the rest of our season goes every year.

In 1999 we lost the RRSO and went to the Independance Bowl.

Last year we lost the RRSO and went to the Holiday Bowl.

Both those years we started with a QB who was new to the team.

This year we have a 5th year Senior as a leader.

I think we'll have a good year, however I still will probably be holding my breath every game till the RRSO.

[mojohornfan]

I'm not worried.

We have done really well in the first week of October under Stoops, though.:D


Those times are over my friend! Time to catch up with reality and stop living in the past, as a lot of sooners seem to be doing right now!

[StoopTroup]

Speaking of living in the past...

It was only one win.

You lost the five before that.

[MojoRisen]

All I know is that half the Texas stands were empty at halftime atleast 3 times- Grown women and men were crying in public...

[mojohornfan]

I could care less who won last year...I only care who will win this year and the past does not get victories in the present!

[MojoRisen]

Cry for me mojohornfan

[Vegas Vic]

Other than '99 and '00 I seem to remember much hand-wringing about some sort of disappointing play, be it offense or defense.

Were you wringing your hands late in the 4th quarter of those games?

[mojohornfan]

Cry for me mojohornfan


???????????????

Why would I be the one crying. WE HAVE a defense.

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[MiccoMacey]

I could care less who won last year...I only care who will win this year and the past does not get victories in the present!

Well, then...I like our chances.

We are both 1-0.

We are both ranked high.

We both have questions yet to be resolved.

Only one of us has been tested at any level higher than junior high football.

And we won that game.

[nanimonai]

Here's the full Septembers:

2005:
TCU 17 OU 10
OU 31 Tulsa 15
UCLA 41 OU 24

2004:
OU 40 BG 24
OU 63 Houston 13
OU 31 Oregon 7

2003:
OU 37 North Texas 3
OU 20 Alabama 13
OU 52 Fresno St. 24

2002:
OU 37 Tulsa 0
OU 37 Alabama 27
OU 68 UTEP 0
OU 31 South Florida 14

2001:
OU 41 UNC 27
OU 44 Air Force 3
OU 37 North Texas 10
OU 38 Kansas St 37

2000:
OU 55 UTEP 14
OU 45 Arkansas St. 7
OU 42 Rice 14
OU 34 Kansas 16

1999:
OU 49 Indiana St. 0
OU 41 Baylor 10
OU 42 Louisville 21

There's some domination throughout to be sure, but consistency doesn't seem to be the strong suit.


Most of those September blowouts were fairly tight until we pulled away late.

[Egeo]

what? you guys are driving me nuts.

2000 - your telling me that utep, ark st and rice were close games?
other than the fact that everygame starts out tied, i cant believe this.

2001 - again, we pretty much dominated the 1st 3 games

2002 - the tulsa game was close at half so ill give you guys that one
(mainly cause dropped passes)
alabama was teh sec west champs and at times we dominated that one (but we got dominated at times)
and well, that utep game was ugly

2003 - the first game against unt was an obvious marked improvement in our passing game - i remember being very impressed
alabama - ya, that one was close
fresno got smoked

2004 - we had a comfortable lead, but we couldnt put bg away
houston and oregon got dominated

2005 - i prefer not to remember this time last year

from 2000 through 2005, counting the first 3 games each year we blew out 12 of 18 games
a mark which is really hindered by 2005's performance

[StoopTroup]

???????????????

Why would I be the one crying. WE HAVE a defense.

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Yet every story about your team yesterday surrounds the fact that your new QB had a nice 1st game. I don't see much about the defense.

[MojoRisen]

North Texas - didn't they make a movie about that team and kathy ireland was the kicker???

[mojohornfan]

Yet every story about your team yesterday surrounds the fact that your new QB had a nice 1st game. I don't see much about the defense.


You have got to be kidding me! They had negative yards most of the game until the game was a blowout, then maneged to get 96 TOTAL yards. And don't tell me UNT is JR. high compared to UAB. THE point is...you did get tested by a JR. HIGH team...HEL-freakin_LO!

[StoopTroup]

She did it for the money.

[Partial Qualifier]

What's your point over here? Are you trying to convince people
we oughtta just write off the season?? You're not real smart, are you :confused:

Why don't you just worry about your impending loss this weekend, and let us worry about OU football.

[TrophyCollector]

???????????????

Why would I be the one crying. WE HAVE a defense.

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Agree, hornasses do have a defense. At least good enough to shut down Denton High. They will also probably look pretty good against Rice and Sam Bomar State.

[StoopTroup]

You have got to be kidding me! They had negative yards most of the game until the game was a blowout, then maneged to get 96 TOTAL yards. And don't tell me UNT is JR. high compared to UAB. THE point is...you did get tested by a JR. HIGH team...HEL-freakin_LO!
Sagarin has North Texas at 161. He had UAB coming in at 93.

Anderson / Hester had NT at 115 and UAB at 94.

Billingsly had NT at 114 and UAB at 91.

I don't think you should really go spewing about a Div I team being a HS team when your team was tested by one.

[soonersam]

I'll take the win with 4 tournovers

[StoopTroup]

Ohio State is licking their chops right now.

Bevo...it's what's for dinner on Saturday.

[MojoRisen]

Stick a fork in them- they are well done! A1 steak sauce anyone-

[sooner94]

A lot of horns fans seem to think they will beat OU and win the NC based on their big win over North Texas.

As you should know, even based on your experiences occurring every 36 years, you have to play well during the entire season to win an NC.

Oh, and Mack is 2-5 against Stoops, with Texas supposedly having the better team in all but about 2 of those games.

[TrophyCollector]

You have got to be kidding me! They had negative yards most of the game until the game was a blowout, then maneged to get 96 TOTAL yards. And don't tell me UNT is JR. high compared to UAB. THE point is...you did get tested by a JR. HIGH team...HEL-freakin_LO!

If you think DHS = UAB, you are a jacktard...

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2005 - Denton High - Season Record (2-9)
Lost to Tulsa 54-2
Lost to K-State 54-7
Lost to LSU 56-3
Lost to Troy, U-La-La, Arkansas St. and La-Monroe

Finished #62 in rushing offense, #112 in passing offense and #114 in total offense. Did a bit better finishing #101 it toal defense.

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2005 - UAB - Season Record (5-6)

Lost to Tennessee 17-10
Defeated Troy 27-7 (see DHS loss to Troy above)
Defeated UTEP 35-23
Defeated Rice 45-26

Finished #21 in total offense at 435 yards per game and #56 in total defense.

[sooner94]

Leave it to a Horn to get overconfident about a win over North Texas.

[TrophyCollector]

2005 - Denton High - Season Record (2-9)
Lost to Tulsa 54-2
Lost to K-State 54-7
Lost to LSU 56-3


So, as a best comparison, 2006 horns did about the same as 2005 Tulsa, K-State and LSU.

Wow, if that isn't proof of a repeat, I don't know what you expect them to do???

[sitzpinkler]

Those times are over my friend! Time to catch up with reality and stop living in the past, as a lot of sooners seem to be doing right now!

Why isn't this idiot banned yet?

[boomrsoonr]

Who let the homojornfan in?

[MiccoMacey]

2000 - your telling me that utep, ark st and rice were close games? Other than the fact that every game starts out tied, i can't believe this.

Either the Rice or Kansas game was close until we broke it open in the 4th quarter. I was thinking Kansas because it was the game prior to Texas and I was thinking "we're screwed if we play like this". Either or, one of those teams was tougher than you're remembering.



2001 - again, we pretty much dominated the 1st 3 games

UNC came back on us. As a matter of fact, if you dismiss the first quarter (which you can't), they completely outplayed us in the second half. The score was never in doubt, but when they replaced Curry with Darius Durant, we had a lot of trouble stopping them. If you looked at that game, you'd think our defense wasn't very good.



2002 - the tulsa game was close at half so ill give you guys that one
(mainly cause dropped passes)

We agree.



alabama was teh sec west champs and at times we dominated that one (but we got dominated at times)

They LED that game with under three minutes to go. We were completely clueless on how to defend them in the second half, plus they shut down our ofense. Minus one of the greatest plays in Sooner history (the shovel pass to Renaldo Works), we lose that game.



2003 - alabama - ya, that one was close

And our offense looked average at best. How did Alabama, the team that gave us so much trouble, end up that year? According to rivals, they ended up 4-9.


from 2000 through 2005, counting the first 3 games each year we blew out 12 of 18 games
a mark which is really hindered by 2005's performance


I disagree with the number. I think it was closer to 9 out of 18.

[85Sooner]

Here's the full Septembers:

2005:
TCU 17 OU 10
OU 31 Tulsa 15
UCLA 41 OU 24

2004:
OU 40 BG 24
OU 63 Houston 13
OU 31 Oregon 7

2003:
OU 37 North Texas 3
OU 20 Alabama 13
OU 52 Fresno St. 24

2002:
OU 37 Tulsa 0
OU 37 Alabama 27
OU 68 UTEP 0
OU 31 South Florida 14

2001:
OU 41 UNC 27
OU 44 Air Force 3
OU 37 North Texas 10
OU 38 Kansas St 37

2000:
OU 55 UTEP 14
OU 45 Arkansas St. 7
OU 42 Rice 14
OU 34 Kansas 16

1999:
OU 49 Indiana St. 0
OU 41 Baylor 10
OU 42 Louisville 21

There's some domination throughout to be sure, but consistency doesn't seem to be the strong suit.


So what your saying is the last sat was the third lowest score recorded for the sooners in sept throughout the stoops era. Huh

[TrophyCollector]

So what your saying is the last sat was the third lowest score recorded for the sooners in sept throughout the stoops era. Huh

Good Point.

[Egeo]

Either the Rice or Kansas game was close until we broke it open in the 4th quarter. I was thinking Kansas because it was the game prior to Texas and I was thinking "we're screwed if we play like this". Either or, one of those teams was tougher than you're remembering.

the rice game wasnt close
and i was speaking about first 3 games of the year (to be consistent against ooc opponents) and kansas isnt in that category




UNC came back on us. As a matter of fact, if you dismiss the first quarter (which you can't), they completely outplayed us in the second half. The score was never in doubt, but when they replaced Curry with Darius Durant, we had a lot of trouble stopping them. If you looked at that game, you'd think our defense wasn't very good.
ok, so our defense didnt play well after we had a giant lead? doesnt bother me at all considering our defense was huge in getting us the giant lead. and one of their td's was peppers int.




They LED that game with under three minutes to go. We were completely clueless on how to defend them in the second half, plus they shut down our ofense. Minus one of the greatest plays in Sooner history (the shovel pass to Renaldo Works), we lose that game.

we had a solid lead at halftime (why i said we dominated some) and then they dominated some and came back



And our offense looked average at best. How did Alabama, the team that gave us so much trouble, end up that year? According to rivals, they ended up 4-9.

qb got hurt i think
and they also had 3 head coaches withing a year




I disagree with the number. I think it was closer to 9 out of 18.
utep, ark st, rice, unc, air force, nt (but i barely remember this game), utep, mean green, fresno, houston, oregon

thats 11 - and you could count the tulsa game in 02.. since we won by almost 40 - but it was close at half

[Spray]

The point of all this wasn't negative- it was just the opposite.

Basically, looking at the past 7 Septmebers as a whole, thinking about varied fan and media reactions at different points, and then looking at last Saturday, what I'm saying is that anyone declaring our D dead, or our offense sunk hasn't been paying attention since Stoops took over.

It's too early. That's all I'm saying.

I see all the domination scattered throughout that list, but I can also point to at least 1 game a year where, when it was over, there were a group of chicken littles or Texas fans ready to declare us overhyped, outmanned, undisciplined, overrated, not dangerous, no threat, etc. In the end, they were almost always wrong- we were a damn good football team.

So until further notice 2005 was an abberration, not the beginning of a trend. I reserve the right to make a judgment on this team until the proper time, which has always been directly following the Texas game (which really has been the proper time since I started watching the sooners in '82).

[Vegas Vic]

UNC came back on us. As a matter of fact, if you dismiss the first quarter (which you can't), they completely outplayed us in the second half. The score was never in doubt, but when they replaced Curry with Darius Durant, we had a lot of trouble stopping them.

That was a weird game. The score was something like 41-7 at halftime, and OU went into the tank in the second half. As you mentioned, the game didn't go down to the wire, and it certainly wasn't comparable to the nail biting finishes that we're getting accustomed to in 2005 and 2006.