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colleyvillesooner
8/24/2006, 11:00 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14489259/


Scientists decide Pluto’s no longer a planet
Historic new guidelines approved by astronomers in Prague
The Associated Press


Updated: 10:27 a.m. CT Aug 24, 2006
PRAGUE, Czech Republic - For decades, it’s been confused with a cartoon dog and ridiculed as a puny poser. Now Pluto, the solar system’s consummate cling-on, has suffered its worst humiliation: It’s not even a planet anymore.

After a tumultuous week of clashing over the essence of the cosmos, leading astronomers Thursday stripped Pluto of the planetary status it has held since its discovery in 1930. The new definition of what is — and isn’t — a planet fills a centuries-old black hole for scientists who have labored since Copernicus without one.

The historic vote by the International Astronomical Union officially shrinks Earth’s neighborhood from the traditional nine planets to eight — forcing future revisions of science textbooks and classroom charts. But the scientists made clear they’re as sentimental as anyone else about the ninth rock from the sun.

Jocelyn Bell Burnell — a specialist in neutron stars from Northern Ireland who oversaw the proceedings in Prague — urged those who might be “quite disappointed” to look on the bright side.

“It could be argued that we are creating an umbrella called ’planet’ under which the dwarf planets exist,” she said, drawing laughter by waving a stuffed Pluto of Walt Disney fame beneath a real umbrella. Later, she hugged the doll as she stood at the dais.

“Many more Plutos wait to be discovered,” added Richard Binzel, a professor of planetary science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

In fact, NASA’s New Horizons spacecraft is in the midst of a 9½-year journey to the solar system’s rim to study Pluto and a whole class of what are now known as "Plutonian objects." Louis Friedman, the executive director of the nonprofit Planetary Society, said in a statement that Pluto and its icy kin were still eminently worthy of study, regardless of their classification.

“Anytime we visit a new world — planet, moon, asteroid, comet, whatever — we make exciting and surprising new discoveries about the evolution of our solar system and about our own planet,” Friedman said.

Who belongs in the cosmic club?
The decision by the prestigious international group spells out the basic tests that celestial objects will have to meet before they can be considered for admission to the elite cosmic club.

For now, membership will be restricted to the eight “classical” planets in the solar system: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

Much-maligned Pluto — named for the god of the underworld — doesn’t make the grade under the new rules for a planet: “a celestial body that is in orbit around the sun, has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a ... nearly round shape, and has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit.”

Pluto is automatically disqualified because its oblong orbit overlaps with that of much larger Neptune.

Instead, it will be reclassified in a new category of “dwarf planets,” similar to what long have been termed “minor planets.” The definition also lays out a third class of lesser objects that orbit the sun — “small solar system bodies,” a term that will apply to numerous asteroids, comets and other natural satellites.

Experts said there could be dozens of dwarf planets cataloged across the solar system in the next few years.

Dramatic reversal
The decision at a conference of 2,500 astronomers from 75 countries was a dramatic shift from just a week ago, when the group’s leaders floated a proposal that would have reaffirmed Pluto’s planetary status and made planets of its largest moon and two other objects.

That plan proved highly unpopular, splitting astronomers into factions and triggering days of sometimes combative debate that led to Pluto’s undoing. In the end, only about 300 astronomers cast ballots.


Now, two of the objects that at one point were cruising toward possible full-fledged planethood will join Pluto as dwarfs: the asteroid Ceres, which was a planet in the 1800s before it got demoted, and 2003 UB313, an icy object slightly larger than Pluto whose discoverer, Michael Brown of the California Institute of Technology, has nicknamed Xena.

Charon, the largest of Pluto’s three moons, is no longer under consideration for any special designation.

Brown was pleased by the decision. He had argued that Pluto and similar bodies didn’t deserve planet status, saying that would “take the magic out of the solar system.”

“UB313 is the largest dwarf planet. That’s kind of cool,” he said.

But as it all sank in, he added: “Deep down inside, I know this is the right thing to do. It’s sad. As of today, I have no longer discovered a planet.”

This report was supplemented by information from MSNBC.com

crawfish
8/24/2006, 11:02 AM
Needed to be done. We need to kick Mercury out of our little group as well.

Then, get Baylor the **** out of the Big 12... :texan:

Fugue
8/24/2006, 11:02 AM
My very educated mother just served us nine.

rebmus
8/24/2006, 11:05 AM
wtf? i wonder what else those teachers LIED to us about???

next thing i'll be told is that pie are really round and not square.

NormanPride
8/24/2006, 11:12 AM
I heard Pluto is a ball of ice. Man, how irritating would that be to discover a planet only to have it evaporate?

Stanley1
8/24/2006, 11:15 AM
You can fire a dog? :confused:

The
8/24/2006, 11:18 AM
But the important question here is:
How does this affect my horoscope?

colleyvillesooner
8/24/2006, 11:21 AM
You can fire a dog? :confused:

Swing and a miss.

Don't worry, you'll get another at bat soon.

toast
8/24/2006, 11:23 AM
so the end of the world came two days late and the wrong planet...who knew?

Flagstaffsooner
8/24/2006, 11:37 AM
Everyone here is up in arms over this. Forgive them Clyde Tombaugh.

RacerX
8/24/2006, 01:18 PM
Screw'em.

Pluto is still a planet. I'm grandfathering it in.

Next they'll tell me that indigo and violet are to close to the same color so they're removing its separate designation from the spectrum.

Octavian
8/24/2006, 01:27 PM
No one would pull this sh*t w/ Uranus

Hatfield
8/24/2006, 02:07 PM
Is George Bush trying to outsource everything??? ;)

Beano's Fourth Chin
8/24/2006, 02:13 PM
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/211/261299lrtqrd5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9857/261276chkgaf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

NormanPride
8/24/2006, 02:28 PM
Size is only a matter of proportions.

Heh. That what yer girlfriend tells ya? :texan:

Flagstaffsooner
8/24/2006, 02:30 PM
Spek for Beano.:eek:

Pricetag
8/24/2006, 02:49 PM
I'm with RacerX. You just don't declare something not a planet like that. They can use those rules for further candidates, but we've been calling Pluto a planet for 76 years. We're the ones who make up the rules on what is and is not a planet, and who is to say these guys are any more correct than the others who said it was in the first place?

Beano's Fourth Chin
8/24/2006, 02:53 PM
Those aren't mine. They're funny, though.

http://www.worth1000.com/cache/contest/contestcache.asp?contest_id=11570&start=1&end=10&display=photoshop

BlondeSoonerGirl
8/24/2006, 02:55 PM
'...Umm, yeah, hello - moon? From now on you won't be 'The Moon' anymore...we're gonna be needing to change your name to 'Little Cold Sun'...TIA...'

JohnnyMack
8/24/2006, 02:55 PM
Screw'em.

Pluto is still a planet. I'm grandfathering it in.

Next they'll tell me that indigo and violet are to close to the same color so they're removing its separate designation from the spectrum.

Why do you hate Roy G. Biv?

Beano's Fourth Chin
8/24/2006, 02:55 PM
I'm with you guys. Let's bring back phlogiston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlogiston). No reason we should let any new discoveries get in the way of how things have always been.

GrapevineSooner
8/24/2006, 04:16 PM
Styrofoam solar system manufacturers everywhere aren't going to like this.

proud gonzo
8/24/2006, 05:51 PM
8 planets and a thingie

crawfish
8/24/2006, 05:52 PM
9 is a cooler number than 8.

IMHO.

proud gonzo
8/24/2006, 06:02 PM
well, i like 9 because it's 3^2, but I like 8 because it's 2^3.

crawfish
8/24/2006, 06:16 PM
well, i like 9 because it's 3^2, but I like 8 because it's 2^3.

You're a square. :D

Miko
8/24/2006, 06:16 PM
I hear Pluto has responded by refusing to recognize earth's planethood and annexing Saturn, calling it Pluto's newest "Moon Region". The mobilization of troops is expected. :eek:

The U.N. immediately passed resolutions condemning the U.S. and calling for the U.S. to send FEMA cards totalling $24.8 in reparations to Pluto.

proud gonzo
8/24/2006, 06:27 PM
You're a square. :D
pfff. dude, i'm a rhombus.

Geekboy
8/24/2006, 06:51 PM
I heard Pluto is a ball of ice.
I know this is odd but I've always wanted to win like this 50 billion dollar Powerball and then I wanted to take that money and then fund an expedition to Pluto to get some Pluto ice for my cocktails.