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Ike
8/17/2006, 04:51 PM
so who is one?


for those of you that are, I have a request (nothing big, I promise).


But first, I have to start with a little story.

These past 2 weeks we have been dogsitting a friends dog while they are away camping in wisconsin. This dog, Cap, is oooolllldddd....older than many of you I imagine. As an old dog, her owners have her on a few medications, mostly for arthritis, and one for pain. Well, when we dogsit for them, we typically just stay at their house for the most part, as Cap isn't too fond of new environments and flips out, and they have cable and we don't...they also have a nice yard that my dog, Jaycee, likes to run around in, and Jaycee and Cap get along pretty well.

So fastforward to last night. The wife and I have late days at work, so I don't wind up making it out to the house until about 7:30 to feed and walk the dogs. Mrs. Ike gets home about the time I'm setting their food down and wants to go out to eat. So we go out to eat at 7:45 and return 'home' at about 9:30. when we get back, we immediately see one of Cap's pill bottles on the floor and chewed all to hell...and empty. (for those that want to know, the bottle was full of a drug called Rimadyl, nearly full....we estimate something like 20-27 100 mg pills)

So we call the vet they normally use for Cap, she tells us this stuff can be extremely toxic and to induce vomiting and get them to the doggie-ER. So we do that. Jaycee loses about half her volume on the driveway, but Cap seems to react to the H202 like its water. nothin....

anyway, we get em to the doggie ER, not knowing which one ate how much, and they take em back and do their magic. They tell us that we need to hospitalize them at their primary vets clinic for a couple of days to completely flush out their systems, etc, etc...and because Cap was well known at her primary vet's clinic, they offered to take that part of the ER bill and just add it to the bill they are going to run for the hospitalization and send it to Cap's owners. This was fine by me because Jaycee's portion of the ER visit alone was $465 that I had to pay then and there. :mad:

I picked them up this morning then and the ER vet said that the chances that both dogs will survive this is pretty good, provided they get at least a days and maybe more, worth of IV fluids...So we take Cap to her main vet, and then I took Jaycee to ours. Our vet doesn't do hospital care, but he recommended us to one. Got her in around noon, and they handed me the estimate (of which I had to pay half)....1500 bucks. :eek: They did note that they may have overestimated by about 700 bucks due the fact that they threw in "miscelaneous tests and perscriptions" just in case she needs them, but that given what they saw of her, she probably wont...but still...****.


So, my request to you south ovarians...Whatever it is you do to try to influence the cosmos in your favor, or in the favor of a friend or loved one....could you do that for me, my wife, and Jaycee (and probably Cap too)? prayers, meditations, dancing, whatever...I need all the help I can get.

Secondly...Cap's owners are out of cell-phone range right now. We left em a message on their cell phone last night but we don't expect them to get it until saturday. If Cap's medical bills are anything like Jaycee's....this could wind up being a nightmare. Did I do the right thing?

Oldnslo
8/17/2006, 04:55 PM
Doomed.

olevetonahill
8/17/2006, 07:54 PM
should a just shot em both :eek:

olevetonahill
8/17/2006, 07:56 PM
But I will place a few kind thoughts that way ;)

BajaOklahoma
8/17/2006, 08:22 PM
You did the only thing you could do.
And welcome to the cost of pet care in the big city.

proud gonzo
8/17/2006, 08:37 PM
I think you did the right thing too and i bet your friends will agree. either way, you did a good deed

OUHOMER
8/17/2006, 08:39 PM
well, a hillbilly would have put Jaycee down and told the vet to send caps bill to the owners.:O otherwise you did the right thing

OUinFLA
8/17/2006, 08:47 PM
You dont have cable?
Why dont you move?

Miko
8/17/2006, 11:10 PM
Yes.

Yes, you did the only thing you could with the dogs.

And, yes, many will consider you a hillbilly for not having cable. :D

Good luck.

OCUDad
8/17/2006, 11:12 PM
Ike, you had no choice. You done good.

StoopTroup
8/17/2006, 11:24 PM
I think you got fleeced by the vets.

I would have given them ipecac and them tried to diagnosis them myself and then if they started to look bad...

I would have gone looking for a dog that looked like their dog.

But...

That's just me...:D

Ike
8/18/2006, 01:37 PM
I may have gotten fleeced by the vets, but what choice did I have? I didn't exactly have a lot of time to shop around...


And believe me, I did think about putting my dog down, but a few factors made me decide to go ahead and spend the extra dough on her. a) ER vet was pretty confident that because we caught it so quickly, it was very likely that both dogs would be fine with proper treatment. b) Jaycee is a young dog with many more good years ahead of her. c) We like Jaycee a lot.

A couple more details that I left out of the story due to the fact that my laptop battery was dying and I was in a lecture hall with no outlets available when I wrote this...
The pills were retrieved (most likely by my dog) from the top of the counter. They were on the top of the counter (towards the back) because this was Cap's owners standard operating procedure. I didn't think anything of it because Jaycee, being rather front-heavy, typically has difficulty standing on her hind legs, and thus I thought the counter was a safe place....now I know better I suppose.


I am wondering though...how much of this is my fault...how much responsibility do you good people think I bear for the other dogs medical bills? Not that I'm trying to wriggle out of any financial responsibility, but it will probably be a bunch of cash which I don't really have. If I should pay it though, I'm fine with doing what needs to be done...

OUinFLA
8/18/2006, 01:53 PM
all of it.
sell your body if you have to, in order to pay for it.

or...........is there anything of value in their house you can sell?
besides the cable box?

Ike
8/18/2006, 02:12 PM
all of it.
sell your body if you have to, in order to pay for it.

or...........is there anything of value in their house you can sell?
besides the cable box?


heh. I don't think selling my body would generate enough cashflow...it might get me a pack of smokes, but thats about it.

slickdawg
8/18/2006, 02:16 PM
You did the right thing, without exception.

I applaud you for this!

slickdawg
8/18/2006, 02:18 PM
Oh yeah, Rimadyl is a NSAID for dogs. 100MG is a lot, our 20 pound Jack Russell was taking 25MG twice a day.

Ike
8/18/2006, 02:24 PM
Oh yeah, Rimadyl is a NSAID for dogs. 100MG is a lot, our 20 pound Jack Russell was taking 25MG twice a day.

So these are both 65 lb dogs, and the one taking the rimadyl is actually taking 50mg twice a day...just the pills are 100mg and have to be cut in half.

proud gonzo
8/18/2006, 06:15 PM
If that's where the owners keep the pills, I don't think it was your fault. If you hadn't been there and the dog had gotten to the pills there would have been no one there to take care of him. So if your friends are friends at all, they should pay their dog's medical bill.

Ike
8/21/2006, 05:39 PM
Update:

Cap's owners returned from their camping trip yesterday. They were happy to see Cap alive and bouncing around, and did not in the least bit feel as though we were responsible for paying Cap's vet bill (yes, we did offer to pay it in full). Instead, they felt bad enough that we had to take on so much of a bill for our dog that they offered to pay some of it. Much as it would have been nice to have some of that financial responsibility lifted from us, we declined, as we felt that we were as culpable as anyone in this incident.


Thanks for all the prayers and good vibes. both dogs have been given a clean bill of health by the vets (and a couple of meds to take for the next week), and are very happy to be home.


The end.

Beano's Fourth Chin
8/21/2006, 05:45 PM
Sounds like you guys are good friends.

Good for you.

Ike
8/21/2006, 05:47 PM
Sounds like you guys are good friends.

Good for you.


we are good friends, but incidents like this can sometimes strain even the best friendships. I'm glad that this didn't.

Miko
8/21/2006, 05:57 PM
So.....that means they have NOT gotten the bill for the pay-per-view porn on their cable yet? I guess that's good.

Ike
8/21/2006, 06:20 PM
So.....that means they have NOT gotten the bill for the pay-per-view porn on their cable yet? I guess that's good.


I think they order so much of that that our contribution is indistingushible from background ;)

RacerX
8/21/2006, 08:53 PM
It would've been cheaper to drive to Lexington.

Ike
8/21/2006, 08:57 PM
It would've been cheaper to drive to Lexington.


not when you factor in the fact that then I'd be in Lexington ;)

C&CDean
8/21/2006, 09:03 PM
It would've been cheaper to drive to Lexington.

Much.

Brother Ike, with all due respect, are you ****ing crazy? And all you "ooh Ike, you did the right thing - jesus loves you for it" people need to seriously STFU. These. Are. Dogs. They're not your kids. They're not humans. Not even close. Hell, the one dog has a foot in the grave and another on a banana peel anyhow.

My wife spent $80.70 last week when I was out of town on one of our dogs that got bit by a copperhead. I blew a ****ing gasket. First of all, give her some Benadryl, some ibuprofen, and put her to bed. If the good Lord wants her to live, she will. All the vet did was give her a couple of shots of "steroids" and sent her home. For $80!!

Seriously, some of you people are completely out of touch with reality. I'm all for saving the whales/dogs/sheep/hogs/etc. As long as it's reasonable. When you start talking 1K+ to keep a galdamned mutt alive - just so he can **** all over your rug, **** on your bed, chew up your new boots - and then die anyhow from choking to death on a pork chop bone you gave him cause you were being nice - then you're simply in-****ing-sane.

DOGS ARE NOT HUMANS. Get a grip people.

OUinFLA
8/21/2006, 09:07 PM
<sniff> <sob>, reality is so hard to face.
I can hardly wait for the new Survivor to start.

Octavian
8/21/2006, 09:07 PM
wow...I completely agree w/ Dean.

My beloved aunt who is the nicest lady God ever created laid to rest her dog of 10 years in a pet cemetary complete w/ a headstone....but she never had any kids so I give her a pass....

The rest of you all scare me...

Beano's Fourth Chin
8/21/2006, 09:08 PM
There's no question in my mind that a dog's life is worth $1500 bucks. In fact, I'll drive anywhere in the state and kill any dog for about half that amount.

Heck, in my mind, there's no dog's life worth a good night's sleep.

Ike
8/21/2006, 09:10 PM
I was waiting for that one.

Yeah, I know we see things differently, but Dean it's not that I think my dog is a human...it's that she's just more fun to be around than most of the humans I meet in an average day...Even with the stupid **** she pulls. To me, thats worth ponying up some cash once in a while.


Much.

Brother Ike, with all due respect, are you ****ing crazy? And all you "ooh Ike, you did the right thing - jesus loves you for it" people need to seriously STFU. These. Are. Dogs. They're not your kids. They're not humans. Not even close. Hell, the one dog has a foot in the grave and another on a banana peel anyhow.

My wife spent $80.70 last week when I was out of town on one of our dogs that got bit by a copperhead. I blew a ****ing gasket. First of all, give her some Benadryl, some ibuprofen, and put her to bed. If the good Lord wants her to live, she will. All the vet did was give her a couple of shots of "steroids" and sent her home. For $80!!

Seriously, some of you people are completely out of touch with reality. I'm all for saving the whales/dogs/sheep/hogs/etc. As long as it's reasonable. When you start talking 1K+ to keep a galdamned mutt alive - just so he can **** all over your rug, **** on your bed, chew up your new boots - and then die anyhow from choking to death on a pork chop bone you gave him cause you were being nice - then you're simply in-****ing-sane.

DOGS ARE NOT HUMANS. Get a grip people.

C&CDean
8/21/2006, 09:11 PM
I was waiting for that one.

Yeah, I know we see things differently, but Dean it's not that I think my dog is a human...it's that she's just more fun to be around than most of the humans I meet in an average day...Even with the stupid **** she pulls. To me, thats worth ponying up some cash once in a while.

P.T. Barnum was right.

Frozen Sooner
8/21/2006, 09:13 PM
You know, for whatever reason, but thinking of Ike and two dogs just puts me in mind of magnetizing two dogs, accellerating them to some appreciable fraction of the speed of light, slamming them together, then examining the bits that result.

Oh, yeah, and Ike? You did a good thing.

RacerX
8/21/2006, 09:21 PM
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/4567/zaloom45.jpg

OCUDad
8/21/2006, 09:35 PM
P.T. Barnum was right.Ike, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. You did a good thing.

afs
8/21/2006, 09:39 PM
i feel the same way about children.

IB4OU2
8/22/2006, 08:04 AM
Much.

Brother Ike, with all due respect, are you ****ing crazy? And all you "ooh Ike, you did the right thing - jesus loves you for it" people need to seriously STFU. These. Are. Dogs. They're not your kids. They're not humans. Not even close. Hell, the one dog has a foot in the grave and another on a banana peel anyhow.

My wife spent $80.70 last week when I was out of town on one of our dogs that got bit by a copperhead. I blew a ****ing gasket. First of all, give her some Benadryl, some ibuprofen, and put her to bed. If the good Lord wants her to live, she will. All the vet did was give her a couple of shots of "steroids" and sent her home. For $80!!

Seriously, some of you people are completely out of touch with reality. I'm all for saving the whales/dogs/sheep/hogs/etc. As long as it's reasonable. When you start talking 1K+ to keep a galdamned mutt alive - just so he can **** all over your rug, **** on your bed, chew up your new boots - and then die anyhow from choking to death on a pork chop bone you gave him cause you were being nice - then you're simply in-****ing-sane.

DOGS ARE NOT HUMANS. Get a grip people.

I had to pay 75.00 to a vet for a 2.00 lizard like you get at the Fair (Desparado) my young daughter had about 10 years ago. The lizard got out of it's cage and the cat got a hold of it. The wife and daughter took it to the vet and the vet put some kind of ointment on it and charged them 75.00 fricken dollars and the dayum thing died anyway. They carried that thing into his office in a small match box and the Vet's nurse comes out to the waiting room calling for Desparado and they carry this little matchbox back to the room. 75.00 Dollars people! :mad:

Mjcpr
8/22/2006, 08:07 AM
I had to pay 75.00 to a vet for a 2.00 lizard like you get at the Fair (Desparado) my young daughter had about 10 years ago. The lizard got out of it's cage and the cat got a hold of it. The wife and daughter took it to the vet and the vet put some kind of ointment on it and charged them 75.00 fricken dollars and the dayum thing died anyway. They carried that thing into his office in a small match box and the Vet's nurse comes out to the waiting room calling for Desparado and they carry this little matchbox back to the room. 75.00 Dollars people! :mad:

....why don't you come to your senses...

IB4OU2
8/22/2006, 08:10 AM
....why don't you come to your senses...

Iv'e never cared for that song since............:( :D

whatsername
8/22/2006, 12:17 PM
I just paid $75 for heartworm pills and Frontline for my dog.

I guess that's wrong?? :rolleyes:

C&CDean
8/22/2006, 01:44 PM
I just paid $75 for heartworm pills and Frontline for my dog.

I guess that's wrong?? :rolleyes:

Well, yeah. You can buy that stuff cheaper. And doggy maintenance stuff is different than big-time "emergency" stuff.

whatsername
8/22/2006, 02:22 PM
Well, yeah. You can buy that stuff cheaper. And doggy maintenance stuff is different than big-time "emergency" stuff.

I may be able to find it cheaper, I agree. I checked at Petmeds.com a while back and it wasn’t much cheaper, not to mention you have to have a script for the heartworm pills. I buy them at Southern Ag and their vet sees my dog for free, just so I’ll buy the hw pills there.

But I wouldn’t let my dog die rather than pay for an $80 vet bill when I’ve invested so much in her already.

Now $1500? I might have to think on that. It would depend on whether she’d be cured completely, quality of life, etc, etc. I haven’t been faced with that decision, so I can’t really say how I’d react. I’d definitely discuss it with my husband first so he wouldn’t yell at me. :)