So which QB does OU go after?

[KC//CRIMSON]

1. Were not getting Clausen so forget it.

2 Ryan Mallett
(Texas HS)
Texarkana, TX 6-6/210/5.13 Committed to Michigan

3 Pat Bostick
(Manheim Twp HS)
Lancaster, PA 6-3.5/220/4.80 Committed to Pittsburgh

4 Willy Korn
(James F Byrnes HS)
Duncan, SC 6-2/200/4.62 Committed to Clemson

5 John Brantley
(Trinity Catholic)
Ocala, FL 6-2/180 Committed to Texas

6 Aaron Corp
(Lutheran HS - Orange County)
Orange, CA 6-4/185/4.65 Committed to USC

7 Tyrod Taylor
(Hampton HS)
Hampton, VA 6-2/185/4.55 Committed to Virginia Tech

8 Josh Nesbitt
(Greene County HS)
Greensboro, GA 6-1/200/4.55 Auburn, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, Texas, Duke

9 Kodi Burns
(Northside HS)
Fort Smith, AR 6-2/190 Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Kansas State, Mississippi, Tennessee, Texas A&M

10 Mike Paulus
(Christian Brothers Academy)
Syracuse, NY 6-5/208/4.80 Committed to North Carolina

11 Peter Lalich
(West Springfield HS)
Springfield, VA 6-5/227/4.80 Committed to Virginia

12 Logan Gray
(Rock Bridge Sr. HS)
Columbia, MO 6-2.5/175/4.55 Committed to Georgia

13 Keith Nichol
(Lowell Senior HS)
Lowell, MI 6-2/180/4.70 Committed to Michigan State

14 Chris Forcier
(St. Augustine HS)
San Diego, CA 6-3/188/4.44 Committed to UCLA

15 Stephen Garcia
(Jefferson Senior HS)
Tampa, FL 6-3/212/4.70 Florida, South Carolina, Alabama, Louisville, Mississippi, Auburn, Florida State

16 Jarrett Lee
(Brenham HS)
Brenham, TX 6-3/190/4.70 Committed to LSU

17 Jason Munns
(Southridge HS)
Kennewick, WA 6-5.5/226/4.72 Committed to BYU

18 Samson Szakacsy
(Camarillo (Adolfo) HS)
Camarillo, CA 6-5/195/4.69 Committed to USC

19 Cameron Newton
(Westlake HS)
Atlanta, GA 6-5.5/225/4.51 Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, LSU, Mississippi State, Virginia Tech

20 Nick Fanuzzi
(Churchill HS)
San Antonio, TX 6-3/205/4.60 Committed to Miami (Fl)

21 Chris Smith
(South Point HS)
South Point, OH 6-3/215/4.70 Committed to Marshall

22 Charlie Russell
(Morgantown HS)
Morgantown, WV 6-3/215 Committed to West Virginia

23 Brock Mansion
(Episcopal School Of Dallas)
Dallas, TX 6-5/221/4.75 Committed to California

NR Joe Haden
(Friendly HS)
Fort Washington, MD 5-11/195/4.40 Committed to Florida

NR Jake Gelakoska
(Henry M Jackson HS)
Mill Creek, WA 6-4/215/4.52 Committed to Oregon State

NR Kellen Kiilsgaard
(Auburn Senior HS)
Auburn, WA 6-2/210/4.53 Arizona State, California, Oregon, Stanford, Washington, Oregon State, Washington State

NR Matthew Ballenger
(Skyview HS)
Nampa, ID 6-3.5/200/4.90 Committed to Colorado

NR Phillip Bates
(Omaha North HS)
Omaha, NE 6-2/195/4.50 Committed to Iowa State

NR Clay Belton
(Northmont HS)
Clayton, OH 6-5.5/219/4.90 Colorado, Duke, Kansas State, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Purdue

NR Nate Brown
(Harrisburg HS)
Harrisburg, PA 6-5/225/4.69 Bowling Green, Iowa, Maryland, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse

NR Cody Catalina
(Greensburg Central Catholic HS)
Greensburg, PA 6-4/195/4.70 Committed to Syracuse

NR Joe Chaisson
(West Brook Sr HS)
Beaumont, TX 6-2/161/4.85 Tennessee, Baylor, Iowa State, LSU, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas A&M

NR L.D. Crow
(Countryside HS)
Clearwater, FL 6-3/210/4.80 Committed to Stanford

NR Cody Endres
(Trinity SHS)
Washington, PA 6-4/220/4.80 Committed to Connecticut

NR Mitchell Evans
(Milton-Union HS)
West Milton, OH 6-3/195/4.78 Boston College, Duke, Ohio State, Pittsburgh, Stanford, West Virginia, Wisconsin

NR Nick Foles
(Westlake HS)
Austin, TX 6-5.5/240/4.85 Committed to Arizona State

NR Ronnie Fouch
(Redlands East Valley HS)
Redlands, CA 6-2/185/4.80 Committed to Washington

NR Skylar Jones
(Middletown HS)
Middletown, OH 6-1/180/4.40 Ohio State, Purdue, Tennessee, Wake Forest, West Virginia, Marshall, Maryland

NR Dan Klein
(Servite)
Anaheim, CA 6-3/190/4.75 California, Oregon, UCLA, UNLV, Utah, Washington, Washington State

NR G.J. Kinne
(Canton HS)
Canton, TX 6-3/215/4.60 Committed to Baylor

[Blue]

Isn't the Kinne kid a top 5 QB? Is already a ut commit?

We should get him.

[royalfan5]

Isn't the Kinne kid a top 5 QB? Is already a ut commit?

We should get him.
He decided to throw away his football career and commit to Baylor. I think his dad coaches there or something, or some relative is involved.

[BOOMERBRADLEY]

Get someone who isn't full of themself

[Blue]

Does Brock Berlin still have any eligibility?

[Snrfn4ever08]

1. Were not getting Clausen so forget it.

2 Ryan Mallett
(Texas HS)
Texarkana, TX 6-6/210/5.13 Committed to Michigan

3 Pat Bostick
(Manheim Twp HS)
Lancaster, PA 6-3.5/220/4.80 Committed to Pittsburgh

4 Willy Korn
(James F Byrnes HS)
Duncan, SC 6-2/200/4.62 Committed to Clemson

5 John Brantley
(Trinity Catholic)
Ocala, FL 6-2/180 Committed to Texas

6 Aaron Corp
(Lutheran HS - Orange County)
Orange, CA 6-4/185/4.65 Committed to USC

7 Tyrod Taylor
(Hampton HS)
Hampton, VA 6-2/185/4.55 Committed to Virginia Tech

8 Josh Nesbitt
(Greene County HS)
Greensboro, GA 6-1/200/4.55 Auburn, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, Texas, Duke

9 Kodi Burns
(Northside HS)
Fort Smith, AR 6-2/190 Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Kansas State, Mississippi, Tennessee, Texas A&M

10 Mike Paulus
(Christian Brothers Academy)
Syracuse, NY 6-5/208/4.80 Committed to North Carolina

11 Peter Lalich
(West Springfield HS)
Springfield, VA 6-5/227/4.80 Committed to Virginia

12 Logan Gray
(Rock Bridge Sr. HS)
Columbia, MO 6-2.5/175/4.55 Committed to Georgia

13 Keith Nichol
(Lowell Senior HS)
Lowell, MI 6-2/180/4.70 Committed to Michigan State

14 Chris Forcier
(St. Augustine HS)
San Diego, CA 6-3/188/4.44 Committed to UCLA

15 Stephen Garcia
(Jefferson Senior HS)
Tampa, FL 6-3/212/4.70 Florida, South Carolina, Alabama, Louisville, Mississippi, Auburn, Florida State

16 Jarrett Lee
(Brenham HS)
Brenham, TX 6-3/190/4.70 Committed to LSU

17 Jason Munns
(Southridge HS)
Kennewick, WA 6-5.5/226/4.72 Committed to BYU

18 Samson Szakacsy
(Camarillo (Adolfo) HS)
Camarillo, CA 6-5/195/4.69 Committed to USC

19 Cameron Newton
(Westlake HS)
Atlanta, GA 6-5.5/225/4.51 Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, LSU, Mississippi State, Virginia Tech

20 Nick Fanuzzi
(Churchill HS)
San Antonio, TX 6-3/205/4.60 Committed to Miami (Fl)

21 Chris Smith
(South Point HS)
South Point, OH 6-3/215/4.70 Committed to Marshall

22 Charlie Russell
(Morgantown HS)
Morgantown, WV 6-3/215 Committed to West Virginia

23 Brock Mansion
(Episcopal School Of Dallas)
Dallas, TX 6-5/221/4.75 Committed to California

NR Joe Haden
(Friendly HS)
Fort Washington, MD 5-11/195/4.40 Committed to Florida

NR Jake Gelakoska
(Henry M Jackson HS)
Mill Creek, WA 6-4/215/4.52 Committed to Oregon State

NR Kellen Kiilsgaard
(Auburn Senior HS)
Auburn, WA 6-2/210/4.53 Arizona State, California, Oregon, Stanford, Washington, Oregon State, Washington State

NR Matthew Ballenger
(Skyview HS)
Nampa, ID 6-3.5/200/4.90 Committed to Colorado

NR Phillip Bates
(Omaha North HS)
Omaha, NE 6-2/195/4.50 Committed to Iowa State

NR Clay Belton
(Northmont HS)
Clayton, OH 6-5.5/219/4.90 Colorado, Duke, Kansas State, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Purdue

NR Nate Brown
(Harrisburg HS)
Harrisburg, PA 6-5/225/4.69 Bowling Green, Iowa, Maryland, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse

NR Cody Catalina
(Greensburg Central Catholic HS)
Greensburg, PA 6-4/195/4.70 Committed to Syracuse

NR Joe Chaisson
(West Brook Sr HS)
Beaumont, TX 6-2/161/4.85 Tennessee, Baylor, Iowa State, LSU, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas A&M

NR L.D. Crow
(Countryside HS)
Clearwater, FL 6-3/210/4.80 Committed to Stanford

NR Cody Endres
(Trinity SHS)
Washington, PA 6-4/220/4.80 Committed to Connecticut

NR Mitchell Evans
(Milton-Union HS)
West Milton, OH 6-3/195/4.78 Boston College, Duke, Ohio State, Pittsburgh, Stanford, West Virginia, Wisconsin

NR Nick Foles
(Westlake HS)
Austin, TX 6-5.5/240/4.85 Committed to Arizona State

NR Ronnie Fouch
(Redlands East Valley HS)
Redlands, CA 6-2/185/4.80 Committed to Washington

NR Skylar Jones
(Middletown HS)
Middletown, OH 6-1/180/4.40 Ohio State, Purdue, Tennessee, Wake Forest, West Virginia, Marshall, Maryland

NR Dan Klein
(Servite)
Anaheim, CA 6-3/190/4.75 California, Oregon, UCLA, UNLV, Utah, Washington, Washington State

NR G.J. Kinne
(Canton HS)
Canton, TX 6-3/215/4.60 Committed to Baylor
i wouldn't ever want us to get clausen. i don't think i could put up with us being called the flamin' gheys for 3-5 years with him here. besides, we've already ruined him by making fun of him ourselves.

[TheGodfather889]

Why is Texas receiving commitments from quarterbacks they've got two freshmen.

[sanantoniosooner]

Why is Texas receiving commitments from quarterbacks they've got two freshmen.
Because Mack has a habit of "encouraging" players to go elsewhere to free up a scholly when someone better becomes available.

[Egeo]

well, we've got a frosh and soph backup...
we shouldnt need another qb...

[goingoneight]

Halzle is a JUCO. Granted he's a nice guy and there is always potential, but he was at a JUCO for a reason. Now I know the first name to come to mind is Josh Heupel, but that kid was a miracle in the making.

Got any non-Texas considering, non-hot-head, coach's sons out there? D-1 talent considered...

[Egeo]

well then, lets assume bradford starts next year...

we wont need another frosh qb for about 2 or 3 years then
lets pick up an ol instead

i have a serious question -
where have we had the most defections in stoops time here?
3 at qb - and theres only one of those on the field at a time
ol probably has more - but obviously we should need about 5 times as many ol as qb's

[Egeo]

btw, i wouldnt even want clausen - he seems like an even worse prima
and his brothers were nothing more than average anyway for a career

[umberto]

well, we've got a frosh and soph backup...
we shouldnt need another qb...

That's assuming that these guys pan out. Plus, that puts us only a couple of bad plays from having no QBs. Until Bradford proves himself as a stud (no safe bet if history is any guide), I don't feel comfortable with Halzle out there.

I think we need to get a stud and a mid level dependable backup. A couple of guys that bleed crimson and cream and actually have decent heads on their shoulders.

[Blues1]

Somebody or Anybody North of the Red River.....!!!

[umberto]

Does anyone have a subscription to Rivals? There is an article on the front page (or linked to the verbal Texass got from the #2 Qb out of Florida) that talks about the changes in the QB recruiting landscape. It's killing me to read it, but I don't want to pay them $9.95. I think it might list possible targets, etc.

[GDC]

Pursuit of recruits
By JOHN E. HOOVER World Sports Writer
8/6/2006

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Sooners begin to scout top high school quarterbacks
NORMAN -- One more aspect to Rhett Bomar's departure from Oklahoma: The Sooners must immediately begin pursuing the nation's top high school quarterbacks.

OU coach Bob Stoops said during media day on Friday that with sophomore Bomar penciled in as a four-year starter, recruiting a megastar quarterback wasn't that important. That's not the case any more.

"It's definitely a priority for us right now," Stoops said. "And we're working hard."

Recruiting service Scout.com lists seven five-star quarterbacks, and all seven have given a verbal commitment. Rivals.com ranks three five-star and four four-star pro-style quarterbacks, and all seven have committed. Six of the Rivals.com's top nine dual-threat QBs have also committed.

So, if no one decommits, there are not many five-star players to choose from. Then again, verbal commitments are nonbinding, and when a player of Bomar's caliber is sent packing, the landscape changes.

"Any high school quarterback in the nation has got to be interested in Oklahoma," said Bill Redell, head coach at Oaks Christian School in Westlake Village, Calif. "That's one of the premier programs in the country."

Redell

coached Sooners backup Joey Halzle at Oaks Christian. He also coaches Jimmy Clausen, this year's top-ranked high school prospect in the nation. Clausen threw for 3,665 yards and 57 touchdowns as a sophomore and 2,778 yards and 30 TDs last season. In his career, he has 96 TDs and only 14 interceptions.

Clausen has verbally committed to Notre Dame, and his commitment sounds firm, particularly because Heisman Trophy front-runner Brady Quinn is a senior and Clausen has the potential to start immediately.

Former OU coach Chuck Long recruited Clausen early, and Clausen hasn't taken any official visits yet. Redell said he hadn't spoken with his QB since Bomar's dismissal on Wednesday, but he didn't think Clausen would decommit.

Others, however, might.

"Hopefully so," Stoops said. "There's a lot of opportunity there. Get that word out."

For one, Bomar's departure has moved the Sooners up the list for Joe Chaisson, quarterback at Westbrook High School in Beaumont, Texas and a three-star recruit according to Rivals and Scout.

OU was already in Chaisson's top five -- his cousin, Kelvin Chaisson, was a three-year starter on the OU offensive line from 2003-05 -- but now the Sooners are higher.

"It's pushing them even higher," he said. "Unfortunately, their situation at quarterback is a little low now, so that kind of sparks a little more interest."

Chaisson attended an OU scrimmage in the spring. He said he will definitely schedule an official visit to OU now. He thinks others, including many who have already given verbal commitments, will do the same.

"I think they also will, because they see the opportunity of getting on the field and getting some playing time early," Chaisson said. "That's a big opportunity."



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[email protected].

[umberto]

Thank you GDC! Not much new news, but still a good read.

[The Consumate Showman]

Here's what I know about this situation:

Look for OU to go after come high school guys first. For the committed players, look for us to push for Mallet and Brantley. Stoops knows the Brantley family personally. If neither of them pan out, look for us to go hard for Garcia, Newton, and Chaisson. From all accounts, this seems to be the staff's top 5 right now with Brock Mansion being a dark horse out in Cali..

If we can't lure a Mallet or Brantley, llo for us to go after one of the bottom 3 I mentioned and another JUCO QB for some solid backup role possibly. We need about 4-5 QB's on campus and we only have 3 right now and will have 2 after this season, so look for us to sign at leat 2 QB's in this class.

My take: I think we will end up losng out on Mallet. Brantley is the wild card here. The problem is if Snead lives up to expectations, Brantley is going to be riding the pine for three years waiting on Snead to graduate. He has a VERY good chance to come in and be the man at OU either right away, mid-way through his initial season, or in his red-shirt frosh year. So I think we get Brantley to decommit.

Worst case scenario, if everyone stays committed, I tihink we try for Chaisson and the Newton kid. The JUCO rankings haven;t come out yet and I haven't heard any talk about any big time JUCO guys out there. Stay tuned...

[trwxxa]

Why is Texas receiving commitments from quarterbacks they've got two freshmen.

Upon his current committment, Brantley said he would redshirt his first year and that this was in his best interest. I don't know if he was stating the company line on that.

I also seem to think he is going to be an early enrollee no matter where he ends up.

[tummer]

Because Mack has a habit of "encouraging" players to go elsewhere to free up a scholly when someone better becomes available.

Do you have an example of that to share with us?

And to answer the original question about Brantley - he's insistent on redshirting , which will put him 2 years behind Colt/Jevan. If anything, y'all have become an even less attractive option to him after Bomar-gate, but he's always been a solid committment anyway.

If the Sooners were going to go after any of THE NATIONAL CHAMPION'S committments, I'd go after Chiles, since he'll have an uphill battle if he were to stay at QB. But even that's a longshot, since he really loves THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS.

Good luck.

[The Consumate Showman]

Why is Texas receiving commitments from quarterbacks they've got two freshmen.


I have a phrase from a Puff Daddy song to sum this situation up for you:



"It's all about the benjamins baby!"

[goingoneight]

Shhhhh! Someone might hear you.
(yells reassuringly) Tejas doesn't cheat!!! Tejas would never do such a thing!

[goingoneight]

Here's what I know about this situation:

Look for OU to go after come high school guys first. For the committed players, look for us to push for Mallet and Brantley. Stoops knows the Brantley family personally. If neither of them pan out, look for us to go hard for Garcia, Newton, and Chaisson. From all accounts, this seems to be the staff's top 5 right now with Brock Mansion being a dark horse out in Cali..

If we can't lure a Mallet or Brantley, llo for us to go after one of the bottom 3 I mentioned and another JUCO QB for some solid backup role possibly. We need about 4-5 QB's on campus and we only have 3 right now and will have 2 after this season, so look for us to sign at leat 2 QB's in this class.

My take: I think we will end up losng out on Mallet. Brantley is the wild card here. The problem is if Snead lives up to expectations, Brantley is going to be riding the pine for three years waiting on Snead to graduate. He has a VERY good chance to come in and be the man at OU either right away, mid-way through his initial season, or in his red-shirt frosh year. So I think we get Brantley to decommit.

Worst case scenario, if everyone stays committed, I tihink we try for Chaisson and the Newton kid. The JUCO rankings haven;t come out yet and I haven't heard any talk about any big time JUCO guys out there. Stay tuned...


All Mack Brown has to say to his verbals is "Isn't Oklahoma about to go on some kind of a probation?"

Young guys don't know the situation and will fold easily. I think it would be good for us to look for a guy like Heupel was. A guy with good numbers, who does his damage with his head rather than his showcase athletic ability.

[westcoast_sooner]

Halzle is a JUCO. Granted he's a nice guy and there is always potential, but he was at a JUCO for a reason. Now I know the first name to come to mind is Josh Heupel, but that kid was a miracle in the making.

Got any non-Texas considering, non-hot-head, coach's sons out there? D-1 talent considered...

From what I've seen from Halzle's JUCO video, he makes plays, not D-1 talent he's up against, but he makes plays. And, I like the fact that he's had some success at a level above high school. To me, he's the kind of kid who can be a lot like another JH who came out of a JUCO system a few years ago. He like studying defenses, and he made some big plays in the Spring, even though he stunk up the Red White game.

I'm behind Thompson this year, but we need to get back on the recruiting trail and find someone to back up our guy next year. At this point, all "committments" are verbal so we still have a chance.

[OUstud]

Here's what I know about this situation:

Look for OU to go after come high school guys first. For the committed players, look for us to push for Mallet and Brantley. Stoops knows the Brantley family personally. If neither of them pan out, look for us to go hard for Garcia, Newton, and Chaisson. From all accounts, this seems to be the staff's top 5 right now with Brock Mansion being a dark horse out in Cali..

If we can't lure a Mallet or Brantley, llo for us to go after one of the bottom 3 I mentioned and another JUCO QB for some solid backup role possibly. We need about 4-5 QB's on campus and we only have 3 right now and will have 2 after this season, so look for us to sign at leat 2 QB's in this class.

My take: I think we will end up losng out on Mallet. Brantley is the wild card here. The problem is if Snead lives up to expectations, Brantley is going to be riding the pine for three years waiting on Snead to graduate. He has a VERY good chance to come in and be the man at OU either right away, mid-way through his initial season, or in his red-shirt frosh year. So I think we get Brantley to decommit.

Worst case scenario, if everyone stays committed, I tihink we try for Chaisson and the Newton kid. The JUCO rankings haven;t come out yet and I haven't heard any talk about any big time JUCO guys out there. Stay tuned...

Chaisson is pretty undersized. Granted, so was Brad Smith though. Good call on Mansion being a darkhorse though. Cal has brought in 2 top QBs the past 2 years (Kyle Reed and Kevin Riley, respectively) so he could logically decommit.

[Sooner-N-KS]

From what I've seen from Halzle's JUCO video, he makes plays, not D-1 talent he's up against, but he makes plays. And, I like the fact that he's had some success at a level above high school.

How do you define success? His team record was 1-9.

With that said, I hope he becomes a good OU QB.

[Snrfn4ever08]

How do you define success? His team record was 1-9.

With that said, I hope he becomes a good OU QB.
success shouldn't always be measured for one player by the success of his team. he obviously didn't have much of a supporting cast

[milesl]

If the Sooners were going to go after any of THE NATIONAL CHAMPION'S committments, I'd go after Chiles, since he'll have an uphill battle if he were to stay at QB. But even that's a longshot, since he really loves THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS.

Many, many great Sooner players had the longhorn flag on their bedroom wall growing up. But once they became adults they put away their childly longhorn memorabila and became a part of a winning tradition.

What was that quote from Barry Switzer, that we always seemed to do better with their players, than the longhorn could ?

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

success shouldn't always be measured for one player by the success of his team. he obviously didn't have much of a supporting cast
bomar's best record ever was last year at OU...

[Snrfn4ever08]

bomar's best record ever was last year at OU...
he had a supporting cast though. i don't really know that he deserves that much credit

[Herr Scholz]

Because Mack has a habit of "encouraging" players to go elsewhere to free up a scholly when someone better becomes available.
Absolutely not true. There's not a more honorable man in college football than Mack. Give me one example of this. Just one.

[Herr Scholz]

Shhhhh! Someone might hear you.
(yells reassuringly) Tejas doesn't cheat!!! Tejas would never do such a thing!
Ahh, yes, the we do it so everyone else must too argument.

[Speer]

Absolutely not true. There's not a more honorable man in college football than Mack. Give me one example of this. Just one.

Bob Stoops

[KC//CRIMSON]

Absolutely not true. There's not a more honorable man in college football than Mack. Give me one example of this. Just one.

"It sure was windy today at the Cotton Bowl.":rolleyes:

"We just overlooked them.":rolleyes:

"We didn't lose, we just ran out of time.":rolleyes:

How many horns have been busted with weed? breaking and entering? etc....and still stayed on the roster?
.
Yeah, Mack is the epitome of "honor."

f******, please.

[Herr Scholz]

Mack doesn't de-scholarship players as Sanantioniosooner stated. I was wanting an example of that. I'm not saying Mack hasn't made some ridiculous excuses in the past that I'm ashamed of, but he cares about his kids and doesn't hang them out to dry if a better player comes along.

As far as kicking players off the team, he's kicked the following starters off the team for weed or academic trouble: Aaron Humphries, Kwame Cavil, Erik Hardeman and Ramonce Taylor.

[KYHonorarySooner]

Mack doesn't de-scholarship players as Sanantioniosooner stated. I was wanting an example of that. I'm not saying Mack hasn't made some ridiculous excuses in the past that I'm ashamed of, but he cares about his kids and doesn't hang them out to dry if a better player comes along.

As far as kicking players off the team, he's kicked the following starters off the team for weed or academic trouble: Aaron Humphries, Kwame Cavil, Erik Hardeman and Ramonce Taylor.

Please, Mac cares about his own a** and having all his talent enrolled is how he takes care of his own a**. Don't give me the "he really cares about these kids" crap.

Stoops had enough integrity to get rid of Brett eventhough his team was not as talented after doing so.

Go away whorn!

[Snrfn4ever08]

Please, Mac cares about his own a** and having all his talent enrolled is how he takes care of his own a**. Don't give me the "he really cares about these kids" crap.

Stoops had enough integrity to get rid of Brett eventhough his team was not as talented after doing so.

Go away whorn!
who's brett, n00b?

[Snrfn4ever08]

Mack doesn't de-scholarship players as Sanantioniosooner stated. I was wanting an example of that. I'm not saying Mack hasn't made some ridiculous excuses in the past that I'm ashamed of, but he cares about his kids and doesn't hang them out to dry if a better player comes along.

As far as kicking players off the team, he's kicked the following starters off the team for weed or academic trouble: Aaron Humphries, Kwame Cavil, Erik Hardeman and Ramonce Taylor.
oh, yea, and i've heard of all of them. really high-profile players:rolleyes:

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

Absolutely not true. There's not a more honorable man in college football than Mack. Give me one example of this. Just one.

billy don malone right after vince committed or are we talking about players on the team?

[Herr Scholz]

oh, yea, and i've heard of all of them. really high-profile players:rolleyes:
Yeah, Ramonce Taylor was a real spare. :rolleyes: He was only the all-purpose yardage leader coming back. Stoops got rid of Bomar, yes. Mack got rid of Taylor. That's a big loss for us as well.

[Snrfn4ever08]

billy don malone right after vince committed or are we talking about players on the team?
god bless you for coming up with something

[1stTimeCaller]

oh, yea, and i've heard of all of them. really high-profile players:rolleyes:

not to jump in and defend our little moron whorn fan but Humphries was a great lineman, Cavil was either a starting corner or receiver, no clue about Hardeman and Taylor was juggled inbetween TB and WR, IIRC. Cavil and Humphries were pretty damned salty.

[Snrfn4ever08]

Yeah, Ramonce Taylor was a real spare. :rolleyes: He was only the all-purpose yardage leader coming back. Stoops got rid of Bomar, yes. Mack got rid of Taylor. That's a big loss for us as well.
ramonce taylor was the exception in that last post. oh, and i'd say OU took the biggest hit. besides, don't you guys already think jamaal charles is god and will do tons better than taylor ever could?

[Snrfn4ever08]

not to jump in and defend our little moron whorn fan but Humphries was a great lineman, Cavil was either a starting corner or receiver, no clue about Hardeman and Taylor was juggled inbetween TB and WR, IIRC. Cavil and Humphries were pretty damned salty.
whorn lover:mad:

[Herr Scholz]

ramonce taylor was the exception in that last post. oh, and i'd say OU took the biggest hit. besides, don't you guys already think jamaal charles is god and will do tons better than taylor ever could?
Cavil and Humpries were both very good/all conference players and their departure completely unrailed our Cotton Bowl vs. Arkansas that year. Hardeman was the starting RB and the heir apparent to Benson when he got booted. Taylor is a huge loss for us. To say Brown hasn't made a tough decision kicking good players off our team is just wrong.

Yes, Charles is very good but Taylor was a difference maker. We'll miss him.

[1stTimeCaller]

:rolleyes:

is that worse than being ignorant?

[Herr Scholz]

billy don malone right after vince committed or are we talking about players on the team?
This guy continued to take visits after commiting if memory serves. Mack makes that very clear when giving offers.

[1stTimeCaller]

This guy continued to take visits after commiting if memory serves. Mack makes that very clear when giving offers.
now you're just making sh*t up

[Snrfn4ever08]

now you're just making sh*t up
hey, if that's the only way he can cover himself, that's the only way he can cover himself.:rolleyes:

[Herr Scholz]

now you're just making sh*t up
Yeah, I could be wrong on that. Like I said, if memory serves. I can tell you this honestly, I've never heard of Mack dumping a kid after he had an offer or schollie when a better one came along. That's the honest truth. The only time I've heard him pulling an offer is when the kid continued to visit other schools after commiting to Texas.

[Herr Scholz]

hey, if that's the only way he can cover himself, that's the only way he can cover himself.:rolleyes:
Wow, you're bitter today. Something happen to your football program recently? I've been out of town.

[Snrfn4ever08]

Wow, you're bitter today. Something happen to your football program recently? I've been out of town.
no, but you're a horn and that's all the reason i need. notice how i'm not bitter with my fellow sooners

[Herr Scholz]

ENA > Rhett Bomar
I doubt your signature would have read this way 2 weeks ago. I could be wrong here, but to be more representative of your blind Sooner optimism, I think your sig should really read this way:

Whoever we still have > Whoever we lost

[Snrfn4ever08]

I doubt your signature would have read this way 2 weeks ago. I could be wrong here, but to be more representative of your blind Sooner optimism, I think your sig should really read this way:

Whoever we still have > Whoever we lost
it's called supporting your team. you whorns wouldn't know too much about that. you only have reason to support once every thirty-five years
VY > anyone else you have

[Herr Scholz]

VY > anyone else you have
Yes, yes! I forgot the flip side of that coin. Your sig should really read:

Whoever we still have > Whoever we lost

AND

Whoever the Whorns lost > Whoever they still have

You can set your watch by this same cliche'd argument every year over here. [edit: by some Sooner fans]

[Snrfn4ever08]

You can set your watch by this same cliche'd argument every year over here.
is that why you like hanging around here so much?

[Herr Scholz]

is that why you like hanging around here so much?
No, there are actually a lot of cool Sooners not eaten up by hate over here. Also a lot of objective ones who provide good conversation.

[Snrfn4ever08]

No, there are actually a lot of cool Sooners not eaten up by hate over here. Also a lot of objective ones who provide good conversation.
i'm not eaten up by hate. i just hate whorns

[Scott D]

not to defend Halzle but two things with him. It's been documented that the main reason he went the Juco route was because he was undersized as a HS Senior..he grew in Juco and became more attractive to programs. Secondly, there were a lot of injuries to players on that 1-9 team he played on, and last I knew one player didn't win a whole lot of football games by himself.

as long as Josh looks for the right things with a QB in the future, we should be ok in that regards.

[Snrfn4ever08]

not to defend Halzle but two things with him. It's been documented that the main reason he went the Juco route was because he was undersized as a HS Senior..he grew in Juco and became more attractive to programs. Secondly, there were a lot of injuries to players on that 1-9 team he played on, and last I knew one player didn't win a whole lot of football games by himself.

as long as Josh looks for the right things with a QB in the future, we should be ok in that regards.
i think halzle will be ok. he's shown flashes of greatness here and there, but he's also had some really low spots. let's keep in mind that he only played one year of juco ball and is a sophomore, so he still has time to mature and learn. he may be expected to take over next year and by that point he should be a muture junior. i think he'll get plenty of playing time this year to help him along.

[Sugalean]

Hey guys...

Harrison Beck is available ...lol.

Seriously... can anyone tell me if Stoops has closed practices off to the public for the time being?

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

http://tps60.tripod.com/RU.html

this isn't the way i remember it happening, but i guess this would be a pass. i recall that the year after the MNC texas landed anyone and everyone they wanted and we ended up signing only a few top high school choices (who all ended up being busts by the way). BDM left about the time that texas reentered the vince young picture when he was previously all over the florida schools.

that year we were so much better off with our 3rd and 4th choices it wasn't even funny...

[Desert Sapper]

i think halzle will be ok. he's shown flashes of greatness here and there, but he's also had some really low spots. let's keep in mind that he only played one year of juco ball and is a sophomore, so he still has time to mature and learn. he may be expected to take over next year and by that point he should be a muture junior. i think he'll get plenty of playing time this year to help him along.

He also has a redshirt year somewhere in there, even if that may not ever be used.

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

a grayshirt year - he hasn't redshirted.

as for the original question - if we get any QB ranked above 8 i'm going to scream...

[sooneron]

a grayshirt year - he hasn't redshirted.

as for the original question - if we get any QB ranked above 8 i'm going to scream...
joy or fear?:twinkies:

[TexasLidig8r]

Could someone explain how in the blue hell Mallett ended up committing to Meatchicken?

Cold... midwest...coach on the hot seat...

[Snrfn4ever08]

Could someone explain how in the blue hell Mallett ended up committing to Meatchicken?

Cold... midwest...coach on the hot seat...
no telling. just another misled prospect

[toast]

http://tps60.tripod.com/RU.html

this isn't the way i remember it happening, but i guess this would be a pass. i recall that the year after the MNC texas landed anyone and everyone they wanted and we ended up signing only a few top high school choices (who all ended up being busts by the way). BDM left about the time that texas reentered the vince young picture when he was previously all over the florida schools.

that year we were so much better off with our 3rd and 4th choices it wasn't even funny...


I remember there being an article in a texas newspaper about Malone's parents questioning the scholarship and that mack had stopped calling, etc. I tried to google it but couldn't come up with anything.

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

I remember there being an article in a texas newspaper about Malone's parents questioning the scholarship and that mack had stopped calling, etc. I tried to google it but couldn't come up with anything.

that is what i remember, but i was reading it from the OU side so who knows...

[FriendlyOutsider]

Could someone explain how in the blue hell Mallett ended up committing to Meatchicken?


I don't know...maybe the fact that Michigan has had an NFL QB on the roster every year since the mid 80's might be a possibility... OU doesn't exactly come across as QBU

[Snrfn4ever08]

I don't know...maybe the fact that Michigan has had an NFL QB on the roster every year since the mid 80's might be a possibility... OU doesn't exactly come across as QBU
nobody needs your lip, noob

[BOOMERBRADLEY]

I don't know...maybe the fact that Michigan has had an NFL QB on the roster every year since the mid 80's might be a possibility... OU doesn't exactly come across as QBU


That was a Texas fan who asked the question

[SicEmBaylor]

Kinne is ours.
He's going to stay ours.
Stay the hell away.
Thank you.

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

nobody needs your lip, noob

kettle meet jabahri brown

[Snrfn4ever08]

kettle meet jabahri brown
maybe i'm just slow today, which is probably the case, but i didn't get that:confused:

[The VIIIth]

Originally Posted by jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
bomar's best record ever was last year at OU...



he had a supporting cast though. i don't really know that he deserves that much credit

Yeah but his point is well taken and it's a rap that's always hung around Bomar...that he never led a championship team or led one with a solid win loss record at the end of the season and in high school ball, one talented guy can make a difference. He obviously played HS ball with the same attitude that carried over into college.

[Big Red Ron]

maybe i'm just slow today, which is probably the case, but i didn't get that:confused:The force is not strong with this one.:D