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Crimson Kid
7/30/2006, 09:40 AM
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http://www.newsok.com/article/2822923

Hope this hasn't been posted already..


By Berry Tramel
The Oklahoman
Senior Day will be short at Owen Field this November.

The Sooners count just nine scholarship seniors, plus three walk-ons.

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The seniors: C.J. Ah You, Rufus Alexander, Larry Birdine, Jason Carter, Zach Latimer, Chris Messner, Lanear Nixon, Calvin Thibodeaux and Paul Thompson. The walk-ons: John Dailey, Dan Dixon and Jonathan Jordan.

Of the scholarship nine, all but Ah You are fifth-year Sooners. So take them out of the equation. The following does not apply to the eight guys that were around for that Rose Bowl season:

This Oklahoma football team is made up of players who never have won a BCS bowl and have just one Big 12 title, achieved over hapless Colorado in 2004.

Ouch. That's holding the Sooners to quite the standard. But that standard is expected. Frankly, that standard is required in the Bob Stoops era. And that public-service announcement comes not from this pen, but from an edict by Stoops himself.

In Kansas City last week, Stoops said he believes his troops have a sense of entitlement, that they don't have to work as hard as necessary to achieve what the Sooners before them achieved. Not all the players, not all the time, but enough players, often enough, to make their coach take notice.

Stoops was asked which team is easier to motivate -- the 2001 Sooners, coming off a 13-0 national championship season, or the 2006 edition, coming off an 8-4 year that included a loss to TCU and an overtime win over Baylor.

2001, Stoops said.

"At that time, we had a lot of guys who had been told they weren't very good and had something to prove and had a chip on their shoulder and played with a lot of attitude," Stoops said.

"I see anymore, we have guys that have a little bit of sense of entitlement. They're already

told they're pretty good, when they haven't done anything and don't realize, some of 'em, that they're an 8-4 team a year ago.

"So to me, it was easier then; we still had a number of guys (with) something to prove. It's harder nowadays to get 'em to understand what it takes."

Stoops named no names -- he's no Byron Scott -- but still, strong stuff from a college football coach who says very little off the cuff. Stoops has a plan for every word. No doubt, he wanted to send a message to the Sooners.

Call this a preemptive strike.

Recall last September, after Texas Christian stunned OU, Stoops said he sort of saw it coming, with a letdown in offseason work ethic.

This time, Stoops said he saw signs in spring that disturbed him enough for his staff to take action.

"Try and explain to 'em what they are," Stoops said. "This is what you've done to this point, this is what's been done before you. Shouldn't be hard to figure out how you need to play, what you need to do to be at that level.

"It's just in spots. But that's our job, to eliminate those spots, get it out of 'em, and be the team that's going to play together, have something to prove and have some attitude."

Again, the Sooners are being held to a high standard. The last three years, OU is 32-7 with one Big 12 title and two appearances in the national title game. Not so awfully bad.

But Stoops' message seems to be this: You came to Oklahoma because of high standards, so don't complain when high standards are demanded. No slacking. No falling back on ancient history of a few years ago.

Stoops was asked if Texas, with its 2005 national championship and rout of the Sooners, had reached OU's level.

"In the end, each level is what you are that year," Stoops said. "We've got a lot of history, they've got a lot of history, Nebraska has a lot of history. I don't think anybody's at any level. I don't ever look at it like that.

"Each year, you fight your way to be as high as you can be.

"We're coming off an 8-4 year, and that's what we are until we change it. We weren't good enough last year to be better than that. It's our job this year to improve on that."

Maybe the youth of this team created Stoops' concern. Nine scholarship seniors is a ridiculously low number, caused by math and circumstance. Retain and redshirt players, and every once in awhile, a smallish senior class is unavoidable and can produce a leadership void.

Stoops said there are no pluses to having so few seniors, but "I don't know that it has to matter, either. It isn't just seniors who lead. The minuses are, I guess, you don't have a good number of seniors who have been around.

"We've got a lot of good, quality young guys coming up in the program. It's how quickly we can get them to play the way we're used to playing, playing at a championship level. Obviously, we didn't a year ago. Hopefully, we can this year."

Consider the message sent.

sooner94
7/30/2006, 09:59 AM
I like the fact that Stoops is sending this message before the season.

I hate that he has to send this message. You would think that after last year's 2-3 start that the non-sense would be done with.

Anyone know which players he is talking about? I know last year the O-linemen were a target for similar comments. And based on the poor play by the DB's and WR's, I would guess some of those guys were slacking off.

It's not good that most of our roster is made up of young players that are seeing this slacker mentality. I think we bring back TRRW in the offseasons, and any player slacking off lines up and has to take a hit from TRRW.

HarrisTubbsFan
7/30/2006, 10:26 AM
I think he's talking about the team in general. Maybe not some of the seniors like Dusty who played hard all the time or a Chris Chester or AD who played hard. They just weren't healthy. I think a big problem with last years team and this years team is they still have to learn to not just win games but dominate games. Really most of these guys have done that too often. Even in 2004 we didn't dominate too many teams.

StoopTroup
7/30/2006, 10:37 AM
It's a smoke screen...

We're gonna kick A$$!

douxpaysan
7/30/2006, 10:48 AM
It's a smoke screen...

We're gonna kick A$$!
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I_Live_In_OK
7/30/2006, 11:07 AM
Stoops' approach to the media has changed dramatically over the past year. He used to have a patent for talking a lot and saying a little, but this message (and the other, a Tulsa World article on Stoops' opinion of sports agents) is presenting a mini-Stoops unplugged kind of deal.

I'm down with it.

Blues1
7/30/2006, 11:16 AM
The Coach is gonna be Rockin' -Hope the Players are ready to Rumble...:D

Look out...The Pain is coming...!!!!

GDC
7/30/2006, 12:55 PM
Beating attitudes coach's top goal
By JOHN E. HOOVER World Sports Writer
7/30/2006

A fast start to the season would mean no laziness, fatigue or apathy, the coach said.
When Bob Stoops talks about a fast start to Oklahoma's 2006 football season, he's not talking about beating Texas in October.

And he's not talking about beating Alabama-Birmingham in September.

He's talking about beating apathy in August and beating laziness and fatigue in July.

"It's already started," Stoops said Wednesday at Big 12 media days in Kansas City. "We'll see what kind of condition we come back in when we get back on the field and see who's ready to play and see how we go through our camp."

When the Sooners lost their home opener to TCU last season, Stoops explained that the game wasn't lost that hot September day at Owen Field. It was lost months earlier, when players went through voluntary summer workouts as though they were truly voluntary. It was lost, too, in August, when three players left the team and a handful of others were there in body but not in spirit.

So what the heck took the mighty Sooner machine from back-to-back national championship game appearances and annual BCS bowl games to an 8-4 stumble and an otherwise memorable victory in the Holiday Bowl?

Where did it all go wrong?


"I guess it may have been when all the older guys left," senior linebacker Rufus Alexander said. "New guys came in and didn't know what it took. These (previous) guys really worked at it. When Jason (White) was here, they made everything look so easy, the way they won.

"We realized," Alexander said, referring to after the TCU game, "it wasn't that easy."

Oklahoma needs a fast start. So with July now in the books, the Sooner multitudes can pin their hopes on but two things:

One, that summer in the weight room and on the stadium steps was as intense in 2006 as it was in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004;

Two, that if it wasn't, then August training camp will complete the task of forging a championship team.

"To me," said Stoops, "the most important time is what we do when we get back to work here next week."

Players report for training camp on Wednesday and practice starts Thursday. That's a month to answer a handful of pressing questions, particularly on the offensive line, at fullback and at defensive tackle.

If attitudes were off in July, or if questions are not answered in August, the Sooners don't have time for another early setback. Week three is a trip to Pac-10 contender Oregon, and week five is the Red River showdown with defending national champion Texas. Two missteps could mean a 3-2 start.

Of course, that's no death sentence. When last season started with two wins and three losses, Stoops didn't resign, OU didn't discontinue its program and fans didn't stop buying tickets. The Sooners rebounded to win six of their last seven and beat a top-10 Oregon team in the next-best non-BCS bowl available. Consider it a team rebuilt and a season salvaged. But what took so long?

"I think it was when we were 1-2, the switch kind of went on," Alexander said. "It was like, 'Man, we're having a losing season.' You didn't expect to be at that point. Guys were saying, 'Man, I didn't expect to be 1-2 my senior year after all the great seasons we had here.'

"You realized you couldn't always expect to win, you've got to prepare to win. Winning was a job. You had to work to win, it wasn't something that's just given."

That's what Stoops hopes his 2006 squad has learned.

"Hopefully we don't have to start the year that way to finish that way," Stoops said. "You know, the bottom line is we need to be better earlier. And we need to be, as I said, a more disciplined and tougher football team to start the season.

"Hopefully we can be a more disciplined and tougher football team this year than we were a year ago."



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PRACTICE SCHEDULE
Date Time
Wednesday: Players report
Thursday: Helmets only 4-6 p.m.
Friday: Media Day 8-10:30 a.m.
Friday: Meet the Sooners 10:30 a.m.-12:15 p.m.
Friday: Practice 5-7:30 p.m.
Saturday: Practice 5-7:30 p.m.
Aug. 6: Practice 5-7:30 p.m.
Aug. 7: First practice with full pads 5-7:30 p.m.
Aug. 8: Practice 9-11:15 a.m.
Aug. 8: Practice 6-8:10 p.m.
Aug. 9: Practice 5-7:30 p.m.
Aug. 10: Practice 9-11:15 a.m.
Aug. 10: Practice 6-8:10 p.m.
Aug. 11: Practice 9:30-11:45 a.m.
Aug. 12: Scrimmage 6 p.m.
Aug. 13: Meetings only
Aug. 14: Practice 9-11:15 a.m.
Aug. 14: Practice 6-8:10 p.m.
Aug. 15: Practice 5-7:30 p.m.
Aug. 16: Practice 5-7:30 p.m.
Aug. 17: Practice 9-11:15 a.m.
Aug. 17: Practice 6-8:10 p.m.
Aug. 18: Practice 9:30-11:45 a.m.
Aug. 19: Scrimmage 11 a.m.
Aug. 20: Off
Aug. 21: Classes begin; practice closed


Note: Preseason practices at rugby fields west of Lloyd Noble Center. Most scrimmages at Memorial Stadium. Practices are open to public. Subject to change.




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MEET THE SOONERS


What: Autograph session with 2006 Oklahoma football team

When: 10:30 a.m. to noon Friday

Where: Practice fields on south side of Memorial Stadium

Tips: Enter through Gate 7 at the northeast corner of the stadium. Limit one autograph item per person. No autographs are guaranteed. Only water will be allowed into the event.





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OU KEY DATES


Wednesday: Players report

Thursday: First day of practice

Friday: Meet the Sooners, Media Day

Sept. 2: Season opener (vs. UAB)





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AUGUST ISSUES
Five concerns facing the OU Sooners during fall practice.

CHEMISTRY 101

The entire season might rest on how well and how quickly the offensive line comes together in August. That's a lot of pressure, but there is a lot -- running room for Adrian Peterson, time for Rhett Bomar -- that rests on how well four new starters on the line execute their blocking schemes.

SAFETY PATROL

Great Sooner teams have been marked by great safeties: Roy Williams, J.T. Thatcher, Brandon Everage, Brodney Pool all made All-Big 12. This year's team has talent (Nic Harris, Keenan Clayton), but youth and inexperience will be a hindrance if they don't develop fast behind Jason Carter and Darien Williams.

GREEN SNAPPER

Jacob Rice was nearly flawless for four seasons as the long snapper on punts and placekicks. Two newcomers -- either walk-on freshman Derek Shaw or tight end Eric Mensik -- will compete for the job.

WHO KICKS

Kicker Mike Knall had an unproductive spring. Knall improved his technique at kicking camps this summer. Placekicker Garrett Hartley is best suited for field goals and kickoffs, but he's an option. Coach Bob Stoops also said he expected to bring in a newcomer to compete in training camp.

TWO DEEP

Oklahoma has one of the premier playmakers in the country in Adrian Peterson, and hopes to have another in Rhett Bomar. But an injury to one or both of those players in the preseason could mean a disastrous 2006. Transfer Joey Halzle backs up Bomar; he has a big arm but threw a lot of interceptions and didn't inspire his teammates to many victories in junior college. He was also prone to turnovers in the spring. Behind Peterson is Allen Patrick (switched from safety midway through 2005), Jacob Gutierrez (coming off reconstructive knee surgery) and three freshmen..

GDC
7/30/2006, 12:56 PM
Scumbags, sleazeballs bug Sooners' Stoops
By DAVE SITTLER World Sports Writer
7/30/2006

Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops' biggest concerns these days aren't limited to Longhorns, Huskies and Ducks. There are also cockroaches, scumbags and sleazeballs.

Those last three aren't my words. Numerous college football coaches use them, along with others not suitable for print in this family newspaper, to describe sports agents. Not all agents operate on the wrong side of NCAA rules. But there are plenty of rogue operators and their equally sleazy "runners" out there who will do or offer whatever it takes to represent the best college players when they are eligible for the NFL draft.

A prime example of how agents can affect a college program came last April. It was revealed that the parents of USC All-American Reggie Bush allegedly lived rent free in a $757,500 home provided by an agent who wanted to represent their son and received more than $100,000 in cash.

Those are big no-no's with the NCAA, which has rules prohibiting student-athletes from receiving extra benefits from agents or their representatives.

The NCAA and the Pac-10 Conference are still investigating the situation with Bush's parents. It's possible that USC, which went undefeated during the 2005 regular season, could have to forfeit those wins.

And here's

the real kick in a coach's backside: It doesn't matter if Bush didn't know about his parents' house arrangement. The NCAA would still view it as a major rules violation.

With Bush gone to the NFL, Stoops now has perhaps the nation's most high-profile prospect in Adrian Peterson. And because the All-American running back will be a junior this fall, he'll be eligible to leave OU after this season and enter the 2007 NFL draft.

Contests against the Texas Longhorns, Washington Huskies and Oregon Ducks are still several weeks away. But the nasty game waged against unsavory agents never really ends for angry and frustrated coaches.

In addition to breaking NCAA rules, agents are often a big pain to coaches because they also attempt to influence juniors to leave college a year early. While a talent like Peterson might be ready for the NFL after three years of college ball, most juniors would go much higher in the draft if they played their senior season.

"It's hard," Stoops said at last week's Big 12 Media Days in Kansas City, Mo. "They (agents) have no regulations."

Agents actually started courting Peterson two years ago. After a phenomenal freshman year, Peterson was stalked by agents when he went to Orlando, Fla., for ESPN's College Football Awards Show.

As soon as Stoops realized what was going on, he instructed OU sports information director Kenny Mossman to never leave Peterson's side the entire trip.

"To that show's credit, I believe they have quit issuing passes to them (agents)," Stoops said. "But that doesn't mean they aren't in the hotel, the parking lot or at the airport.

"All you can do as coaches is get your players to understand that there is a right time (for agents). But why do you need it before then? Because there is absolutely nothing they (agents) can do for you unless it's illegal."

The latest fad in this sordid mess is agents hiring "runners" to make initial contact with players. Runners can range from younger agents just starting out in the business, to family friends or college students who can get close to the player without being noticed.

The runners are needed because many agents are not welcomed on college campuses. Stoops not only bans them from his practices, he'll also personally escort them off OU's property if they decline to leave on their own.

It's often difficult to detect the runners. When OU conducts its annual Fan Appreciation Day this Saturday, some of those thousands of people waiting in line for autographs are runners who soon will try to entice players to autograph a contract with his agent.

Stoops does his best to educate his players on every aspect of the NCAA rules, including agents. He also enlists other athletic department personnel to partake in the instructions.

Asked if he will use Bush as an example to his players, Stoops said he wouldn't mention any specific names to the media. But he indicated that he "absolutely" will present a scenario similar to Bush's.

"In the end, this affects everyone. It affects your program," Stoops said. "To me, if a player knowingly does something that is against the rules, then his picture is coming off the wall and he's banned from the program."

Stoops said the agent problem is always on the agenda when the coaches meet for their annual convention. But that's about as far as it gets.

"I feel it's incredibly unfortunate that (there) is no regulation on them (agents) and there's all these regulations on us and the kids," Stoops said. "And we can't be with the kids every day.

"I think it (the agent problem) is getting worse. They are everywhere, and they've got people associated with them everywhere. And they can do whatever the heck they want."

Stoops obviously isn't alone in his frustration. USC's staff remains bitter over what agents did to Bush, and for also convincing some other Trojan juniors to leave school before they were ready for the NFL.

USC assistant Pat Ruel recently told the Los Angeles Times: "I know what cockroaches look like, and I know what agents look like."

For coaches, they are often one and the same..

GDC
7/30/2006, 01:00 PM
http://www.tulsaworld.com/SportsStory.asp?ID=060730_Sp_b8_poll

Big 12 player's poll, you may have to log in to read it, but it's interesting.

King Crimson
7/30/2006, 01:33 PM
http://www.tulsaworld.com/SportsStory.asp?ID=060730_Sp_b8_poll

Big 12 player's poll, you may have to log in to read it, but it's interesting.

didn't have to log in. thanks gdc.

oumartin
7/30/2006, 02:26 PM
well i called Bob the other day and told him I thought his overall attitude needed to be changed or I was gonna do it for him.. He got the message and now he is taking it out on the players..

Sometimes I just gotta step in.

Don't I kelvin?

goingoneight
7/30/2006, 02:28 PM
Stoops: Where you from son???
Bomar: Texas, sir...
Stoops: TEXAS? TEXAS!?!?! How tall are you, son?
Bomar: meh... 6'2-ish?
Stoops: 6'2-ish!?!?! I didn't know they stacked $h!t that high!

HarrisTubbsFan
7/30/2006, 03:15 PM
Stoops: Where you from son???
Bomar: Texas, sir...
Stoops: TEXAS? TEXAS!?!?! How tall are you, son?
Bomar: meh... 6'2-ish?
Stoops: 6'2-ish!?!?! I didn't know they stacked $h!t that high!

Are you trying to squeeze and inch on me?

goingoneight
7/31/2006, 03:48 PM
we-hell, I'm glad we're in control with Drill Seargeant Schmidt and Staff Seargeant Stoops at the helm...

soonervegas
7/31/2006, 04:34 PM
In Kansas City last week, Stoops said he believes his troops have a sense of entitlement, that they don't have to work as hard as necessary to achieve what the Sooners before them achieved. Not all the players, not all the time, but enough players, often enough, to make their coach take notice.

Stoops was asked which team is easier to motivate -- the 2001 Sooners, coming off a 13-0 national championship season, or the 2006 edition, coming off an 8-4 year that included a loss to TCU and an overtime win over Baylor.

2001, Stoops said.

"At that time, we had a lot of guys who had been told they weren't very good and had something to prove and had a chip on their shoulder and played with a lot of attitude," Stoops said.

"I see anymore, we have guys that have a little bit of sense of entitlement. They're already

told they're pretty good, when they haven't done anything and don't realize, some of 'em, that they're an 8-4 team a year ago.

"So to me, it was easier then; we still had a number of guys (with) something to prove. It's harder nowadays to get 'em to understand what it takes."


Sorry, but this whole quote from Stoops doesn't bode well for a team that has it's eyes on a Big 12 and National title. Officially color me concerned.

Jello Biafra
7/31/2006, 04:46 PM
Sorry, but this whole quote from Stoops doesn't bode well for a team that has it's eyes on a Big 12 and National title. Officially color me concerned.


coach speak. trust me. i saw it with my own eyes at the ou football camp......

schmidt has their attention.

KyleUT
7/31/2006, 04:48 PM
Stoops was asked if Texas, with its 2005 national championship and rout of the Sooners, had reached OU's level.

It's this kind of thinking from everyone from podunk tshirt Sooner fan in Elk City to big-$$ alums to the entire Oklahoma media that breeds this sense of entitlement. You're seriously asking if the reigning MNC is at a team's level who has not won it all in 6 years? I like Stoops' answer about no levels existing or only existing on a year-by-year basis, but step back and think about that question and the motivations behind it from a non-Sooner viewpoint and you'll see what I mean.

XingTheRubicon
7/31/2006, 04:58 PM
It's this kind of thinking from everyone from podunk tshirt Sooner fan in Elk City to big-$$ alums to the entire Oklahoma media that breeds this sense of entitlement. You're seriously asking if the reigning MNC is at a team's level who has not won it all in 6 years? I like Stoops' answer about no levels existing or only existing on a year-by-year basis, but step back and think about that question and the motivations behind it from a non-Sooner viewpoint and you'll see what I mean.


Not long ago Texas was a nationwide laughingstock. That was the point of the question.

CrimsonChampion
7/31/2006, 05:01 PM
It's this kind of thinking from everyone from podunk tshirt Sooner fan in Elk City to big-$$ alums to the entire Oklahoma media that breeds this sense of entitlement. You're seriously asking if the reigning MNC is at a team's level who has not won it all in 6 years? I like Stoops' answer about no levels existing or only existing on a year-by-year basis, but step back and think about that question and the motivations behind it from a non-Sooner viewpoint and you'll see what I mean.
I'd say since this is your first title in 36 years and have been whiped out by Oklahoma for all but this year of this decade, you have a little ways to go to be at our level.

Get your weight up pansy

Jello Biafra
7/31/2006, 06:03 PM
It's this kind of thinking from everyone from podunk tshirt Sooner fan in Elk City to big-$$ alums to the entire Oklahoma media that breeds this sense of entitlement. You're seriously asking if the reigning MNC is at a team's level who has not won it all in 6 years? I like Stoops' answer about no levels existing or only existing on a year-by-year basis, but step back and think about that question and the motivations behind it from a non-Sooner viewpoint and you'll see what I mean.


we have stepped back and looked at it. that's why you pudsmackers get the daily beat downs on here. you've won 4 ncs in the history of college football and you guys ahve always acted like you were the pinnacle of college football. now we own you and a majority of the rest of the country, won an nc and several big xii championships.......hell as i've said before....we've lost more championships since 1985 than you guys have ever played in........now what?

CrimsonChampion
8/1/2006, 08:50 AM
I recognize their 3 AP titles, and so does everyone else in the nation, except texass. If it ain't AP or BCS, it ain't a real national championship imo.