why is it so hard to hire people

[OUHOMER]

3 applied, tried to hire all three, 2 would not go take a drug test, and 1 never showed up for the drug test. Took the cup and went home:mad:

Back to square one.:mad:

[the_ouskull]

Stop drug testing. Freakin' gestapo.

the_ouskull

[royalfan5]

Hire illegals. I hear they work cheap.

[oumartin]

cuz there is only one of me and everyone wants me..
that makes it tough..
watta you pay?

[the_ouskull]

Hire illegals. I hear they work cheap.

And, contrary to popular belief, they're almost always clean... (ie - drug free)

Well, the ones that are (actually) over 25 or so are anyway...

the_ouskull

[slickdawg]

I passed my drug test.

[MamaMia]

3 applied, tried to hire all three, 2 would not go take a drug test, and 1 never showed up for the drug test. Took the cup and went home:mad:

Back to square one.:mad:Why are you drug testing people?

[mdklatt]

Give 1TC a ring after a couple of months at his newest job.

[BigRedJed]

Trust me, I've been struggling to hire good help all year. I'm pretty picky, though.

[OUHOMER]

Why are you drug testing people?


The COMPANY test all hires. Does a 10 year back ground check as well.
but it is what it is.

we are looking for part time help, which makes it even harder IMO. most people need full time.

[yermom]

that's pretty serious for a part-time job...

hey Jed, what are you hiring for? ;)

[BigRedJed]

You'd be surprised how many people apply with felony convictions or no drivers license, when I clearly state that I do background checks and require a good driving record. I also drug tests, and I'll have people make it all the way through the interview process and then not show, or test postive.

I always wonder if they think I'm bluffing when I tell them I check all of that stuff.

[oumartin]

funny, you can't work in my line of work now w/o passing all that crap cuz they worry you might be a terrorist plotting to take out a refinery or some crap.

[OUHOMER]

You'd be surprised how many people apply with felony convictions or no drivers license, when I clearly state that I do background checks and require a good driving record. I also drug tests, and I'll have people make it all the way through the interview process and then not show, or test postive.

I always wonder if they think I'm bluffing when I tell them I check all of that stuff.

If they would let you charge these people back for all the expense if they fail i bet that would cut down on a lot of wasted time. last i heard our back ground alone was over $200.00

[yermom]

You'd be surprised how many people apply with felony convictions or no drivers license, when I clearly state that I do background checks and require a good driving record. I also drug tests, and I'll have people make it all the way through the interview process and then not show, or test postive.

I always wonder if they think I'm bluffing when I tell them I check all of that stuff.

what is a "good" driving record? :O

[BigRedJed]

Apparently, your driving record, minus several offenses.

[BigRedJed]

Winky.

[OhU1]

I have 10 positions to fill. I dread the chore. Reading bad resumes and sitting through endless interviews. Auuuggg! The Lawton job applicant pool aint none to deep to catch fish out of either.

[yermom]

Apparently, your driving record, minus several offenses.

i think i have one ticket from July or August 2003, it should be gone soon

the asshats in Texass said if i paid on time and some extra fee it wouldn't show up... stupid night speed limit...

[Killerbees]

What are the jobs?

I am in the market for a new one. Been trying to find a decent job in OK for several months now. Plenty of good offers to move out of state but I dont want to do that.

my only concerns are:
located in OK
longevity
upward mobility
nothing to do with nuclear reactors
decent wages

I will pass a drug test because I have never done them and I gots me 10 years of USN service running a nuclear power plant, so I can read and follow orders.

[Scott D]

and as a bonus you glow in the dark ;)

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Hastings makes you sign a form that states if you fail the test you have to pay for it and they won't pay so you can't leave until you pay :P That would be embarrassing. I hate the pee test though, because you don't want to just pee until the whole thing is full plus, aiming and cutting the flow off is a bitch. Jed does your job involve lots of angry losing at gambling customers, if not I could probably do it. Nothing would make me happier than never stepping in a Casino again :P

[ultimatesooner1]

its not that hard to pass a drug test even if you have been doing drugs. WTF is wrong w/ these people

[OhU1]

What are the jobs?

nothing to do with nuclear reactors


office/legal related. Occasional handling of nuclear waste required.

[hurricane'bone]

I'm so sick of my job...I'd rather drive a taxi.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Wait until some women tells you vehemently that there is a man upstairs who chooses who wins and who loses. And of course, it is always some other race than hers. :P

[mdklatt]

WTF is wrong w/ these people

They're on drugs.

[Scott D]

I'm so sick of my job...I'd rather drive a taxi.

I heard Hesh is looking for a stunt double.

[yermom]

http://sargman.freehomepage.com/images/ot.jpg

heh

[Scott D]

yermom is a bandwidth stealer!

:eek:

http://sargman.freehomepage.com/images/ymdole.jpg

[Killerbees]

office/legal related. Occasional handling of nuclear waste required.

:eek:

[hurricane'bone]

heh.

[walkoffsooner]

poor people don't need jobs they have us.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

What exactly do you do Homer? I mean if you run a skateboard shop..then you need to loosen up if it is office thing, stick it to em!

[etouffee]

You need to hang up a sign that says "Long Haired Freaky People Need Not Apply".

[Sooner in Tampa]

I am always on the look out for the right job...especially in Oklahoma/surrounding area...the problem always ends up being wages.

[yermom]

You need to hang up a sign that says "Long Haired Freaky People Need Not Apply".

:mad:

[TexasLidig8r]

We have applicants do the Wunderlik test and a personality test.. and in applying, we have them authorize us to run a credit report... Random drug testing.

It's gotten to a point where you have to... if not and an employee gets your company sued then the questions from my fellow mouthpieces would be along the lines of:

Mouthpiece: "So, what employment screening and background search policies and procedures does your company employ?"

CEO: "None, **** off."

Mouthpiece: "No further questions at this time."

[MamaMia]

I'm so sick of my job...I'd rather drive a taxi.

My friend drives his own taxi cab in the Dallas area. He use to be an underwater welder before his health started failing him. He built up his own taxi clients and does very well. He just bought a gorgeous inboard/outboard. I plan to take a spin on it soon, once I'm all rested up from all the summer visits I've had from the grandkids.

The last grandchild left a couple of days ago. At this particular time though, I'm still trying to rest up from it all. I'm not as young as I use to be. :P

What were we talking about? :confused:

[etouffee]

:mad:Meh. I had nothin.

[the_ouskull]

...and I gots me 10 years of USN service running a nuclear power plant, so I can read and follow orders.

Sincerely,
Homer Simpson

???

[Sooner Schemer]

Maybe it's due to the abundance of high-quality jobs in the state. Especially in Tulsa. :rolleyes:

[mdklatt]

Maybe it's due to the abundance of high-quality jobs in the state. Especially in Tulsa. :rolleyes:

Tulsa = OKC MetrOWND!

:pop:

[SouthFortySooner]

I scoffed at the old adage, "Good help is hard to find.", until I was involved in hiring. I believe its our YOU OWE ME society.

[Mixer!]

I find it demeaning to pee in a cup to prove that I don't take dope. I've been fortunate to never have had to with any job I've had. If my word's not good enough, then good luck with the next candidate.

[OUHOMER]

What exactly do you do Homer? I mean if you run a skateboard shop..then you need to loosen up if it is office thing, stick it to em!

Freight biz, loading , unload, sorting, forklift stuff. just dock work

[Scott D]

in all seriousness you could consider hiring 1tc, I'm sure he'd be good for anywhere from 6 months to 2 years of employment. ;)

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

I find it demeaning to pee in a cup to prove that I don't take dope. I've been fortunate to never have had to with any job I've had. If my word's not good enough, then good luck with the next candidate.

Are you serious? I mean let's take this forklifting..unloading job thing... Do you really want to "take the guys" word that is lifting something heavy above your head and could kill you because he just wanted to get a little high this morning. If you work in a competitive office do you want an employee who might get high and miss work.

[royalfan5]

Are you serious? I mean let's take this forklifting..unloading job thing... Do you really want to "take the guys" word that is lifting something heavy above your head and could kill you because he just wanted to get a little high this morning. If you work in a competitive office do you want an employee who might get high and miss work.
What about all the people that can do their job perfectly well stoned out of their minds? I'm guessing in a competive office, you wouldn't need a drug test to catch a problem. If you not showing up stoned or drunk, what does it really matter?

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Yeah but let's say competent stoned guy does screw up..who is getting sued?

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

I am just saying that if you have worked somewhere, you know who the people there that do drugs, if they are doing something dangerous and screw up, someone is going to let it out that they are a pot head...I don't know if Cash registering at Wal Mart or McDonald's really needs a drug test..

[royalfan5]

Yeah but let's say competent stoned guy does screw up..who is getting sued? And don't
Couldn't you sue a negligent sober person just as easy? It isn't that hard to noticed stoned folk before they operate heavy machinery.

[mdklatt]

What about all the people that can do their job perfectly well stoned out of their minds? I'm guessing in a competive office, you wouldn't need a drug test to catch a problem. If you not showing up stoned or drunk, what does it really matter?

You might not know your forklift operator is impaired until it's too late.

[royalfan5]

You might not know your forklift operator is impaired until it's too late.
fair enough, but why should desk jockey's need drug tests?

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Well you can sue a negligent sober person but you can sue a negligent employer who hired a person with a drug problem and make a **** load more money

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

I think it just depends on office type...I mean as long as they are discreet and it doesn't effect work, no big deal. Now you don't want your secretary out smoking pot on main street with the boys because that would reflect poorly on your business in some ways.

[mdklatt]

fair enough, but why should desk jockey's need drug tests?

The typical desk jockey shouldn't. Either his performance suffers and your fire him, or it doesn't and don't--even if he's getting baked on his own time. No victim, no problem.

[WhiteRiverSooner]

There are so many reasons to thoroughly check out employees before you hire them. The wrong employee can threaten the welfare of the business and other employees.

We do background checks and credit checks as well. People that have a lot of chaos in their lives tend to bring chaos to the work place.

Who do you think is more likely to steal from the company - the drug addict with terrible credit or the person who is clean and always pays their bills on time?

Company theft is a major issue in business, lawsuits are a major issue. It is expensive to hire and train people. You want to know that the person you are hiring at least appears worth the investment.

Even after doing as much checking and investigating as you can, you end up with those that can't learn the job, have personal problems, are crazy and you couldn't tell upfront, or you just can't stand to be around them.

Why waste time on someone who is also actively using drugs. The chances of them being the employee you want are extremely low. BTW - casual drug users can stay clean long enough to get a job, otherwise they are not really casual drug users.

I think it is a crock that the government is the only employer allowed to do lie dector tests on potential employees.

I used to have that requirement for positions that were particularly sensitive. It was amazing the number of prospective employees that I was ready to hire and then found out on testing they were criminals that just didn't have a record. I mean some really horrible revelations were made during some of those tests.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Everyone is a criminal in some way ;)

[frankensooner]

My wife should be in HR, she can spot a loon from 50 yards.