View Full Version : THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY SHERIFF
Stanley1
7/7/2006, 05:18 PM
TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO
HE IS THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY SHERIFF
AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER.
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY:
Sheriff Joe Arpaio (in Arizona) who created the "tent city jail":
He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.
He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their weights. Cut off all but "G" movies.
He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects.
Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.
He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked! up the cable TV again only let in the Disney channel and the weather channel.
When asked why the weather channel he replied, so they will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.
He cut off coffee since it has zero nutritional value.
When the inmates complained, he told them, "This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back."
He bought Newt Gingrich' lecture series on videotape that he pipes into the jails.
When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series might explain why a lot of t he inmates were in his jails in the first place.
More on the Arizona Sheriff:
With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record), the Associated Press reports: About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed-wire-surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.
On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 degree s inside the week before.
Many were also swathed in wet, pink towels as sweat collected on their chests and dripped down to their pink socks.
"It feels like we are in a furnace," said James Zanzot, an inmate who has lived in the tents for 1 year. "It's inhumane."
Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic.
He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates:
"It's 120 degrees in Iraqand our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to wear full battle gear, but they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your mouths!"
Way to go, Sheriff! Maybe if all prisons were like this one there would be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders. Criminals should b e punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for their parole, only to go out and commit another crime so they can get back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.
Sheriff Joe was just reelected Sheriff in Maricopa County, Arizona
sooner n houston
7/7/2006, 05:39 PM
Wish his methods would spread!!!
PhilTLL
7/7/2006, 05:44 PM
So, uh, what are the recidivism rates under his administration?
And how many of the inmates are non-violent offenders? :)
XingTheRubicon
7/7/2006, 05:48 PM
Good ol' Newt, the dead beat dad that asked his wife for a divorce in her hospital room right before cancer surgery.
Everything else seemed fine to me.
royalfan5
7/7/2006, 05:59 PM
So, uh, what are the recidivism rates under his administration?
And how many of the inmates are non-violent offenders? :)
I have a friend that did a stint in that jail on a DUI rap. He reoffended and pretty much didn't learn his lesson from the experience. Of course that just might say something about the people I am friends with.
Scott D
7/7/2006, 06:47 PM
so Stan, are you trying to say that you want to move to Arizona?
leavingthezoo
7/7/2006, 06:49 PM
sheriff joe's posse is also the only law enforcement willing to round up illegals in this area much to the dismay of many.
on a side note, he's a nutcase. seriously. but i vote for him every time.
IronSooner
7/7/2006, 06:54 PM
So do we turn Arizona into a prison now?
sheriff joe's posse is also the only law enforcement willing to round up illegals in this area much to the dismay of many.
Dang. That sounds like one talented posse he's got there.
royalfan5
7/7/2006, 06:58 PM
So do we turn Arizona into a prison now?
I think that's worth considering.
Flagstaffsooner
7/7/2006, 07:00 PM
So do we turn Arizona into a prison now?Just PHX.:mad:
Scott D
7/7/2006, 07:01 PM
So do we turn Arizona into a prison now?
you mean it isn't?
picasso
7/7/2006, 07:14 PM
Good ol' Newt, the dead beat dad that asked his wife for a divorce in her hospital room right before cancer surgery.
Everything else seemed fine to me.
he also kicked the Dems out of power on the hill right? he can't be all that bad then.
RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
7/7/2006, 07:30 PM
sheriff joe's posse is also the only law enforcement willing to round up illegals in this area much to the dismay of many.
on a side note, he's a nutcase. seriously. but i vote for him every time.And your reason for calling him a nutcase is......
PhxSooner
7/7/2006, 07:59 PM
Just PHX.:mad:
Watch it there, mountain boy!:mad: :mad: ;)
Frozen Sooner
7/7/2006, 08:12 PM
There is no federal court order that inmates must receive cable TV. Prisons typically provide it to keep the prisoners from rioting out of boredom.
Flagstaffsooner
7/7/2006, 08:16 PM
Watch it there, mountain boy!:mad: :mad: ;):D
It's 68 here now. Is your tent hot?:P ;)
There is no federal court order that inmates must receive cable TV. Prisons typically provide it to keep the prisoners from rioting out of boredom.
Why allow facts to get in the way of a good "they got it better and have more rights than we do" argument?;)
Frozen Sooner
7/7/2006, 09:50 PM
Well, surprisingly enough, the rest of that kludged together e-mail is actually true.
As it turns out, I've done some research into jails (not prisons) for the local DA. The Maricopa County jail system is indeed interesting. There is probably something to learn from the guy. Nevertheless, a significant problem is simply the number of folks we jail versus the available facilities. Part of the problem is the inability to adjudicate the cases in a timely fashion. In my area, it is not uncommon for folks to be jailed prior to trial for a longer period than if they had been convicted of a crime and been given the maximum sentence. As a result, they get released prior to trial.
Harry Beanbag
7/7/2006, 10:36 PM
And your reason for calling him a nutcase is......
Probably because he's a nutcase.
leavingthezoo
7/7/2006, 11:38 PM
And your reason for calling him a nutcase is......
... because my mama taught me to be nice? :D
it's an opinion william. i'm allowed.
RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
7/8/2006, 01:31 AM
... because my mama taught me to be nice? :D
it's an opinion william. i'm allowed.I think he would be a shoo-in for governor if he decided to run-probably the only "lock" the republicans would have against the incumbent.
olevetonahill
7/8/2006, 01:56 AM
TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO
HE IS THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY SHERIFF
AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER.
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY:
Sheriff Joe Arpaio (in Arizona) who created the "tent city jail":
He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.
He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their weights. Cut off all but "G" movies.
He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects.
Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.
He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked! up the cable TV again only let in the Disney channel and the weather channel.
When asked why the weather channel he replied, so they will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.
He cut off coffee since it has zero nutritional value.
When the inmates complained, he told them, "This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back."
He bought Newt Gingrich' lecture series on videotape that he pipes into the jails.
When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series might explain why a lot of t he inmates were in his jails in the first place.
More on the Arizona Sheriff:
With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record), the Associated Press reports: About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed-wire-surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.
On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 degree s inside the week before.
Many were also swathed in wet, pink towels as sweat collected on their chests and dripped down to their pink socks.
"It feels like we are in a furnace," said James Zanzot, an inmate who has lived in the tents for 1 year. "It's inhumane."
Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic.
He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates:
"It's 120 degrees in Iraqand our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to wear full battle gear, but they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your mouths!"
Way to go, Sheriff! Maybe if all prisons were like this one there would be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders. Criminals should b e punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for their parole, only to go out and commit another crime so they can get back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.
Sheriff Joe was just reelected Sheriff in Maricopa County, Arizona
Old Email :eek:
nanimonai
7/8/2006, 02:21 AM
Yet Phoenix is still one of the most dangerous cities in America.
Harry Beanbag
7/8/2006, 09:05 AM
Yet Phoenix is still one of the most dangerous cities in America.
We can thank the neverending flow of illegals for that.
RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
7/8/2006, 10:15 AM
We can thank the neverending flow of illegals for that.So, that guy was trying to blame Shef Joe for Phoenix' crime rate-----go figure!
leavingthezoo
7/8/2006, 10:49 AM
I think he would be a shoo-in for governor if he decided to run-probably the only "lock" the republicans would have against the incumbent.
did you miss where i voted for him? although, i wouldn't vote for him over napolitano as governer. i think she's a little whacky too, though. (see- i'm an equal opportunist) ;)
RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
7/8/2006, 02:53 PM
did you miss where i voted for him? although, i wouldn't vote for him over napolitano as governer. i think she's a little whacky too, though. (see- i'm an equal opportunist) ;)Yes, I read that you voted for him, though I don't know why, since you think he's a nutcase.
Why do you prefer the dim nutcase over the repub nutcase?
leavingthezoo
7/8/2006, 03:48 PM
because they both seem to be doing just fine where they are?
RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
7/8/2006, 04:16 PM
because they both seem to be doing just fine where they are?She would be even finer out of office.
Gandalf_The_Grey
7/8/2006, 05:16 PM
Personally, most politicians are nut cases so if I only voted for non nutcases...I would have to move alot to vote more than twice. Hell Coburn is bat **** crazy but I love the guy...he has mucho hueves grandes.
leavingthezoo
7/8/2006, 07:43 PM
She would be even finer out of office.
well, that holds true for most politicians. :D
Flagstaffsooner
7/9/2006, 11:48 AM
did you miss where i voted for him? although, i wouldn't vote for him over napolitano as governer. i think she's a little whacky too, though. (see- i'm an equal opportunist) ;)I'd vote for him in a heartbeat over that lesbian. She was installed by the queer nation of Janet Reno and Bill Clinton.
RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
7/9/2006, 12:57 PM
I'd vote for him in a heartbeat over that lesbian. She was INSTALLED by the queer nation of Janet Reno and Bill Clinton....OMG:eek: ...WORD! WTF!
leavingthezoo
7/9/2006, 03:00 PM
heh.
william, it's interesting that you feel sheriff joe is the only shoe-in against her considering it's only the queer nation that supports her. last time i checked, az is predominantly republican, so how does that add up? seems to me you could throw in anybody and run away with a victory. sounds like you recognize she might have support you just wish she didn't.
honestly, i don't care who is governer. so long as they do their job. as for sheriff joe, i think he's got the personality that goes great with enforcing the law. that's why i think he's fine where he's at.
Gandalf_The_Grey
7/9/2006, 03:26 PM
I think all convicts should be forced to do things like Saw...ya know make them appreciate being alive and **** ;)
RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
7/9/2006, 03:44 PM
heh.
william, it's interesting that you feel sheriff joe is the only shoe-in against her considering it's only the queer nation that supports her. last time i checked, az is predominantly republican, so how does that add up?.What's this queer nation stuff? She's a dim, pure and simple. AZ is on the bubble, politically. She ran a great hit-piece campaign against Matt Salmon and surprisingly beat him. But, after all AZ voted for Clinton twice. This state can go either way politically, with all the Californians moving in, and the Mexicans, too. It could well be a solid dim state before too long.
Gandalf_The_Grey
7/9/2006, 03:49 PM
I feel so sorry for the Republicans....I mean I have never seen a more beaten down and trodden on group that has had complete control for the last 6 years.
leavingthezoo
7/9/2006, 04:03 PM
What's this queer nation stuff? She's a dim, pure and simple. AZ is on the bubble, politically. She ran a great hit-piece campaign against Matt Salmon and surprisingly beat him. But, after all AZ voted for Clinton twice. This state can go either way politically, with all the Californians moving in, and the Mexicans, too. It could well be a solid dim state before too long.
oh, i'm sorry. i guess when flag said, "blah blah blah queer nation blah blah blah" and you responded with "blah word blah" i mistook that as agreement.
i'll stop comprehending what i'm reading. ;)
good idea, 'cause that noise will NEVER fly around here. :D
SoonerInKCMO
7/9/2006, 06:23 PM
So, uh, what are the recidivism rates under his administration?
And how many of the inmates are non-violent offenders? :)
Hey - when is someone gonna answer this? I found the goods on the number of school districts in Oklahoma and Texas; it's someone else's turn to find some stuff. :)
So, uh, what are the recidivism rates under his administration?
And how many of the inmates are non-violent offenders? :)
Recidivism rates are not that important. Prison is a place of punishment, not a rehab joint. they are doing time for past crimes, and if they **** up again, back to tent city.
royalfan5
7/9/2006, 06:30 PM
Recidivism rates are not that important. Prison is a place of punishment, not a rehab joint. they are doing time for past crimes, and if they **** up again, back to tent city.
Actually, wouldn't high recidivsm rates indicate that the punishment is ineffective? What good is punishment if it doesn't serve as a deterrent to future crime?
Actually, wouldn't high recidivsm rates indicate that the punishment is ineffective? What good is punishment if it doesn't serve as a deterrent to future crime?
Tell me this, would you want to go back after your balls have hung down to your kneecaps for the past 5-10 years because it is so damn hot? Or would you make dang sure you would fly straight and act like a normal human being? Those who go back are either career criminals that wont leave that lifestyle, or idiots too dumb to figure out how not to end up in prison.
royalfan5
7/9/2006, 06:41 PM
Tell me this, would you want to go back after your balls have hung down to your kneecaps for the past 5-10 years because it is so damn hot? Or would you make dang sure you would fly straight and act like a normal human being? Those who go back are either career criminals that wont leave that lifestyle, or idiots too dumb to figure out how not to end up in prison. Execpt that people aren't spending more than a year there, it's a county jail. Is actually more effective than a regular jail, or does it just make tax-payers feel good?
Tell me this, would you want to go back after your balls have hung down to your kneecaps for the past 6-12 months because it is so damn hot? Or would you make dang sure you would fly straight and act like a normal human being? Those who go back are either career criminals that wont leave that lifestyle, or idiots too dumb to figure out how not to end up in prison.
fixed it myself. same thing though.
Sure, making the tax base happy is a part of it. I have never been thrown in the clinker, but three hots and a cot INDOORS with A/C is The Bellagio compared to tent city. Just with common sense, which one is a likely deterent? But Criminals dont use common sense, therefore they land up in jail.
When people talk about punishment that works, they refer to it as chance for redemption/repenting/rehabilitation. Think of criminals as an irrational child. All reasoning and pleaing go out the window when a child throws a tantrem. What does a parent worth their salt do next, you pop them in the behind to get their attention and to let them know that this kind of behavior is unacceptable.
royalfan5
7/9/2006, 07:04 PM
Tell me this, would you want to go back after your balls have hung down to your kneecaps for the past 6-12 months because it is so damn hot? Or would you make dang sure you would fly straight and act like a normal human being? Those who go back are either career criminals that wont leave that lifestyle, or idiots too dumb to figure out how not to end up in prison.
fixed it myself. same thing though.
Sure, making the tax base happy is a part of it. I have never been thrown in the clinker, but three hots and a cot INDOORS with A/C is The Bellagio compared to tent city. Just with common sense, which one is a likely deterent? But Criminals dont use common sense, therefore they land up in jail.
When people talk about punishment that works, they refer to it as chance for redemption/repenting/rehabilitation. Think of criminals as an irrational child. All reasoning and pleaing go out the window when a child throws a tantrem. What does a parent worth their salt do next, you pop them in the behind to get their attention and to let them know that this kind of behavior is unacceptable.
That's a pretty oversimplified view of criminal justice isn't?
That's a pretty oversimplified view of criminal justice isn't?
Yeah, it is, but America has lost its ways in the prison system. Stats are important, dont get me wrong. But it is how we react to those stats that is important.
America has gone to the "why" question too many times. Why do terrorists hate us? Why does John "The Chicken Sodemizer" Smith do what he did? Why do criminals go back to jail? So on and so forth. The focus of the corrections system is not to figure out why these dipsh!ts keep coming back, but to serve as punishment.
royalfan5
7/9/2006, 07:15 PM
Yeah, it is, but America has lost its ways in the prison system. Stats are important, dont get me wrong. But it is how we react to those stats that is important.
America has gone to the "why" question too many times. Why do terrorists hate us? Why does John "The Chicken Sodemizer" Smith do what he did? Why do criminals go back to jail? So on and so forth. The focus of the corrections system is not to figure out why these dipsh!ts keep coming back, but to serve as punishment.
Is it, wouldn't be a lot cheaper if you could figure out the why and do something about it, than picking up the tax payer bills on wharehousing people.
So, what you're saying is...the corrections system shouldn't be trying to correct?
SoonerInKCMO
7/9/2006, 07:17 PM
The focus of the corrections system is not to figure out why these dipsh!ts keep coming back, but to serve as punishment.
I disagree. I think the focus of the corrections system should be to prevent those incarcerated from committing crimes again. In some cases, severe punishment will accomplish that goal. In others, a more rehabilitative approach is necessary.
So, what you're saying is...the corrections system shouldn't be trying to correct?
It is upon the individual who goes to prison/jail to correct themselves while they are being punished, not the county jail/ state penn/ fed super max.
SoonerInKCMO
7/9/2006, 07:20 PM
If they were able to correct themselves, they wouldn't be there in the first place.
I disagree. I think the focus of the corrections system should be to prevent those incarcerated from committing crimes again. In some cases, severe punishment will accomplish that goal. In others, a more rehabilitative approach is necessary.
I agree with the first and second sentences. Through "hard time" and separation from the civilians one should learn from the errors of his ways. Why do we need to spend time/money/effort on those we know are idiots?
If they were able to correct themselves, they wouldn't be there in the first place.
Dont try and rationalize the actions or the thought processes of the irrational
Gandalf_The_Grey
7/9/2006, 08:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkSEIfyjByI
Classic Colbert ;)
1stTimeCaller
7/10/2006, 08:07 AM
I read somewhere a year or so ago that the recidivsm rates are just about the same as any other county in AZ. I'll try to find a link.
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