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slickdawg

6/27/2006, 05:25 PM

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- Israeli aircraft attacked a bridge in central Gaza early Wednesday, the Israel Defense Forces said, but it added land units had not crossed into Gaza.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/27/israel.soldier/index.html

ChickSoonerFan

6/27/2006, 05:32 PM

Inside Gaza, Palestinians have dumped piles of sand on major roads, intended to slow any advance of Israeli tanks and armor and provide cover for gunmen.

THAT is how they are defending themselves against Israel? Wow.

slickdawg

6/27/2006, 05:35 PM

Those palestinians are a crafty bunch, eh?

Mjcpr

6/27/2006, 05:36 PM

THAT is how they are defending themselves against Israel? Wow.

The car bombs and suicide bombers will come later.

ChickSoonerFan

6/27/2006, 05:38 PM

The car bombs and suicide bombers will come later.

:(

True

It looks like Israel is not backing down on this, they rarely do though.

White House Boy

6/27/2006, 05:49 PM

Don't mess with Israel.

You mess with Israel, you mess with Yahweh. Not smart.

yermom

6/27/2006, 06:22 PM

that bridge will think twice next time

JohnnyMack

6/27/2006, 06:42 PM

Is that a subaru in your avatar?

Flaming. Ghey.

Hamhock

6/27/2006, 07:03 PM

Is that a subaru in your avatar?

Flaming. Ghey.

Post reported.

mrowl

6/27/2006, 07:54 PM

now the troops are going into gaza....

www.cnn.com

IDF: Troops entering Gaza

Israeli troops crossed the border into southern Gaza early Wednesday after airstrikes targeted a power plant and at least two bridges, the Israeli military told CNN. The campaign is aimed at securing the release of a soldier kidnapped by Palestinian militants. Palestinians have been building sand mounds on border roads to try to slow a land attack.

Jerk

6/27/2006, 08:27 PM

Can anyone here argue that we would not be better off if every islamofascists/jihadists on the face of the earth suddenly died?

Jerk

6/27/2006, 08:28 PM

We need to resserrect General Sherman and have him march from Gaza to Damascus, then over to Tehran.

White House Boy

6/27/2006, 08:52 PM

Can anyone here argue that we would not be better off if every islamofascists/jihadists on the face of the earth suddenly died?
Not me. That sounds about right.

yermom

6/27/2006, 08:55 PM

Is that a subaru in your avatar?

Flaming. Ghey.

you have a surprise waiting next time you enable spek ;)

just don't start a thread about it

BOOMERBRADLEY

6/27/2006, 09:02 PM

If you mess with Israel you are basically messing with the US seeing as how all of their military equipment is American made including F15's and F16's.

Only difference is that their troops are not as well trained as ours, but they are still quite good

Scott D

6/27/2006, 09:07 PM

in all serious honesty, **** isreal. They're next on the list of Stab America in the Back.

StoopTroup

6/27/2006, 09:15 PM

in all serious honesty, **** isreal. They're next on the list of Stab America in the Back.
You should re-think that opinion IMHO.

I would hate to see the Holy Land destroyed by those who hate it's very existance.

JohnnyMack

6/27/2006, 09:20 PM

you have a surprise waiting next time you enable spek ;)

just don't start a thread about it

What color is the easter egg in my basket? :D

White House Boy

6/27/2006, 09:31 PM

in all serious honesty, **** isreal. They're next on the list of Stab America in the Back.

I honestly think Israel is our greatest ally.

slickdawg

6/27/2006, 09:32 PM

I honestly think Israel is our greatest ally.

Without exception.

jeremy885

6/27/2006, 09:33 PM

I honestly think Israel is our greatest ally.

Why? What do we honestly get out of the relationship (take religion out of the equation)?

JohnnyMack

6/27/2006, 09:34 PM

I honestly think Israel is our greatest ally.

Why do you hate Margaret Thatcher?

Scott D

6/27/2006, 09:34 PM

Without exception.

you also know that Israel has more spies in the United States spying on our government than even the Soviet Union had during it's peak, right?

Scott D

6/27/2006, 09:36 PM

You should re-think that opinion IMHO.

I would hate to see the Holy Land destroyed by those who hate it's very existance.

It has nothing to do with any proclaimed Holy Land (land that is allegedly Holy to 3 religions whom seem to have major disagreements with each other). But rather a government that I don't trust in any possible way. To think they are as close a friend as some would naively believe is akin to saying that France is our best friend.

usmc-sooner

6/27/2006, 09:37 PM

I honestly think Israel is our greatest ally.

yeah me too.

royalfan5

6/27/2006, 09:41 PM

homerSimpsonsBrain

6/27/2006, 09:45 PM

I honestly think Israel is our greatest ally.

I'll take the brits thank you very much.

Scott D

6/27/2006, 09:46 PM

I think it's fair to say Israel is our greatest Ally in the whole Middle East Cluster****. Overall, no, they aren't chipping in that much on other projects and are a pretty small country all in all. Plus, the whole spying bit. Didn't they blow up one of our ships once too?

yep, the USS Liberty in 1967, the attack was deliberate. But hey..these guys say they are our best friends in the world ;)

Vaevictis

6/27/2006, 09:50 PM

Israel is nobody's friend but Israel's. They'd toss us to the wolves in a heartbeat if they thought it was in their interest to do so.

Vaevictis

6/27/2006, 09:51 PM

Which is not to say it's not in our best interest to keep Israel on the map, but let's not delude ourselves into thinking Israel would go out on a limb for us.

homerSimpsonsBrain

6/27/2006, 09:52 PM

Scott!! They said they were sorry! It was an accident. Kind of like the wife that accidently shot her husband.... 6 times. :eek:

BOOMERBRADLEY

6/27/2006, 09:54 PM

We wouldn't sell them our best fighter jets if we didn't trust them just a little bit.

Scott D

6/27/2006, 09:55 PM

Scott!! They said they were sorry! It was an accident. Kind of like the wife that accidently shot her husband.... 6 times. :eek:

actually, Israel never apologized, and the Johnson administration tried to cover it up.

Scott D

6/27/2006, 09:55 PM

We wouldn't sell them our best fighter jets if we didn't trust them just a little bit.

you mean the same jets we sold to Japan?

BOOMERBRADLEY

6/27/2006, 09:57 PM

you mean the same jets we sold to Japan?

No idea, I guess you know something I do not

Scott D

6/27/2006, 09:58 PM

I know that we are the source of 65% of the primary equipment of the JDF, however do you trust them as implicitely as you do the Israelis?

Vaevictis

6/27/2006, 10:00 PM

We wouldn't sell them our best fighter jets if we didn't trust them just a little bit.

If it's trust that's causing us to sell to them, more fool us.

More likely, IMO, it's because we know that:
1. They're not a threat to us.
2. They're not a threat to us.
3. They'll most likely use them against people who are a threat to us.
4. They're not a threat to us.

BOOMERBRADLEY

6/27/2006, 10:00 PM

I didnt say I trusted anyone

Our government who is supposed to protect us apparently does.

Scott D

6/27/2006, 10:04 PM

If it's trust that's causing us to sell to them, more fool us.

More likely, IMO, it's because we know that:
1. They're not a threat to us.
2. They're not a threat to us.
3. They'll most likely use them against people who are a threat to us.
4. They're not a threat to us.

Well I'd say it's more along the lines of a semi-fragile tenuous friendship. For the longest time the establishment of an Israeli state was a political view of us having a foothold in that region of the world. However, our government was slow to learn that Israel is that barely under control attack dog that is just as likely to snap at it's controller as it is those it was 'trained' to attack.

Scott D

6/27/2006, 10:05 PM

I didnt say I trusted anyone

Our government who is supposed to protect us apparently does.

Our government is also 'best friends' with a country that we spent the better part of 100 years fighting to become independant of, while the citizens have gained an arrogance on par with their 'original best friend' whom they mock as being surrendering traitorous socialists.

StoopTroup

6/27/2006, 10:09 PM

The Israelis are very smart.

We are very smart.

Europeans are very smart.

Canadians are smart enough.

Texans are our greatest threat IMHO.

We should take over the Holy Land and move Israel to Texas IMHO. ;)

slickdawg

6/27/2006, 10:16 PM

Israel supports us unilaterally, and helps us immensely with on the ground
intelligence in the middle east.

Iraq nuke plant? We couldn't take it out for political reasons. Israel did.

They help us a whole lot, but can't do it visibly, as the arabs look for
any reason to kill Isralites.

White House Boy

6/27/2006, 10:16 PM

slickdawg

6/27/2006, 10:18 PM

Israel gets Texas, there would be no more illegal immagrants coming
in across that border. Excellent idea!

homerSimpsonsBrain

6/27/2006, 10:44 PM

actually, Israel never apologized, and the Johnson administration tried to cover it up.
Well. This link says they did apologize at "8 June 1967:1614" but it doesnt change the questions ...

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:1wc-vMWAu1sJ:www.ameu.org/uploads/liberty_nov19_2002.doc+USS+Liberty+apology&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=7&client=firefox-a

It has what it calls "The facts, as known". If they are even remotely correct, the apology is irrelevent.

This guy tries to briefly bring several threads together...

http://logogo.net/00opening.htm

On June 8, 1967, during the Six Day War, Israeli forces attacked the USS Liberty, a U.S. Navy intelligence-gathering ship off the coast of Gaza, killing 35 men and wounding 171. Israeli apologized and called the attack an accident. The U.S. government accepted the apology and did not openly challenge the explanation For almost three decades the crewmen of the Liberty have waged a campaign to have the attack investigated. Indeed, they claim that not only was the attack was intentional, but also that Johnson recalled the Sixth Fleet rescue flights to avoid a clash between the U.S. and Israel.

JohnnyMack

6/28/2006, 02:03 PM

Getting worse.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/28/israel.soldier/index.html

White House Boy

6/28/2006, 02:06 PM

Prepare for the Beast to rear his ugly head.

Howzit

6/28/2006, 02:14 PM

Heh. Warplanes buzzed Assad's house...

Condescending Sooner

6/28/2006, 02:19 PM

you also know that Israel has more spies in the United States spying on our government than even the Soviet Union had during it's peak, right?

Where did you get this information?

GrapevineSooner

6/28/2006, 02:29 PM

Texans are our greatest threat IMHO.

You should all trust me less than you trust Israel. ;)

crawfish

6/28/2006, 02:35 PM

Dang wealthy zionists should just lay down and let the palestinians kill them.

royalfan5

6/28/2006, 02:39 PM

Dang wealthy zionists should just lay down and let the palestinians kill them.
Or they could just quite ****ing around and do things right instead of half-***
measures like building a fence and sending a tank here or there.

1stTimeCaller

6/28/2006, 02:52 PM

Or they could just quite ****ing around and do things right instead of half-***
measures like building a fence and sending a tank here or there.

It's hard to do just that when your Uncle Sam won't let you.

royalfan5

6/28/2006, 02:57 PM

It's hard to do just that when your Uncle Sam won't let you.
Honestly, what would the United States really do if Israel just went in and ripped **** up?

NormanPride

6/28/2006, 02:58 PM

Honestly, what would the United States really do if Israel just went in and ripped **** up?

Give them a stern talking-to?

Hamhock

6/28/2006, 03:02 PM

Getting worse.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/28/israel.soldier/index.html

I think it's awesome that Israel sneeks in, cuts off a piece of the guy's robe and leaves. Then, Syria says they chased them off. Yea, right.

Howzit

6/28/2006, 03:04 PM

I think it's awesome that Israel sneeks in, cuts off a piece of the guy's robe and leaves. Then, Syria says they chased them off. Yea, right.

A banner on Syrian television reported that the Syrian air force intercepted the Israeli aircraft and "forced them to separate and leave the area." It called the Israeli airspace breach "an unacceptable, hostile and provocative act."

The Syrian statement did not mention the reported overflight of al-Assad's home.

:D

homerSimpsonsBrain

6/28/2006, 03:21 PM

:D

They didnt mention the "heroic AAA radar operators" turned on the targeting radars and ran like hell for a bunker :D

Scott D

6/28/2006, 06:10 PM

Where did you get this information?

The 200+ Israeli spies that have been arrested since GWB has taken office (the first time) must just be my imagination.

soonerscuba

6/28/2006, 07:02 PM

Israel is a tough one, it really does have two sides.

One side is that their human rights record is suspect at best. The other side is that they do not take **** and do things we can't. Giving Texas is the best solution I've heard yet.

Palestinians are the stupidest people on Earth, hands down. Global sympathy is on their side, the world is literally wants them to have their way. What they need is a MLK or Ghandi to run civil disobedience and show the world that the Israelis are *******s.