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GDC
6/26/2006, 02:10 PM
The Sooner Spectator guy didn't. He did have Billy number one though.
jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
6/26/2006, 02:18 PM
Q - considering the OLs he ran behind, definitely...
dupree - nope

i do agree that peterson will most likely finish #1, especially given our OL situation last year...
King Crimson
6/26/2006, 02:19 PM
let's see (no order, just off the top of my head):

Billy, little joe, pruitt, owens, vessels, AD, Elvis peacock, Kenny King, Lydell, Spencer....that's 10 and there are others. i'd give Q the nod over Dupree just because of what his teams accomplished. though, obviously Dupree was a freak and potentially so many things.

what's the spectator list?
GDC
6/26/2006, 02:19 PM
I think if you bumped Stanley Wilson for Q I could accept that list.
Octavian
6/26/2006, 02:20 PM
what's the Spectator's list?
GDC
6/26/2006, 02:20 PM
I'll have to walk up to the other house to get it.
tru2ou
6/26/2006, 02:21 PM
Griffin yes, Dupree no.

To be honest, AD has no business being in there yet either. He needs to prove it again this year for him to be a top 10 RB all time.

Dupree was a tremendous talent but only showed flashes of brilliance.

Griffin is #4 on the all-time rushing list at OU and had great junior and senior seasons.

I would also include Demond Parker on the Top 10 list. Did he include him?


- TRU
jk the sooner fan
6/26/2006, 02:23 PM
The Sooner Spectator guy didn't. He did have Billy number one though.

i thought that was a pretty well thought out article, his list wasnt just "recent players" but spanned across the schools history

somebody good is always going to get left off a list like that....
toast
6/26/2006, 02:28 PM
depends upon what the measurements are to be in the top 10, I guess. Courtesy of soonerstats here are the career rushing leaders:

1.
Billy Sims
RB
1975-79
4,118
593
53
6.94

2.
Joe Washington
RB
1972-75
4,071
675
39
6.03

3.
Steve Owens
RB
1967-69
4,041
958
57
4.22

4.
Quentin Griffin
RB
1999-02
3,938
744
44
5.29

5.
De'Mond Parker
RB
1996-98
3,403
579
21
5.88

6.
Stanley Wilson
RB
1979-82
3,198
567
15
5.64

7.
Greg Pruitt
RB
1970-72
3,122
422
38
7.40

8.
Adrian Peterson
RB
2004-05
3,029
560
29
5.41

9.
Lydell Carr
RB
1984-87
2,910
563
21
5.17

10.
Mike Gaddis
RB
1988-91
2,726
443
30
6.15

11.
Jamelle Holieway
QB
1985-88
2,713
539
32
5.03

12.
James Allen
RB
1993-96
2,438
563
7
4.33

13.
Kenny King
RB
1976-78
2,431
391
10
6.22

14.
Spencer Tillman
RB
1983-86
2,425
456
22
5.32

15.
Jim Grisham
RB
1962-64
2,404
474
18
5.07

16.
Kejuan Jones
RB
2001-05
2,325
599
36
3.88

17.
George Thomas
RB
1946-49
2,231
368
34
6.06

18.
Clendon Thomas
RB
1955-57
2,201
323
31
6.81

19.
Elvis Peacock
RB
1974-77
2,163
352
28
6.15

20.
Billy Vessels
RB
1950-52
2,153
346
31
6.22

21.
Thomas Lott
QB
1976-78
2,145
442
30
4.85

22.
Steve Davis
QB
1973-75
2,124
534
34
3.98

23.
Jerald Moore
RB
1993-95
2,111
388
25
5.44

24.
Jack Mildren
QB
1969-71
2,025
541
32
3.74

25.
Leon Heath
RB
1948-50
2,018
287
17
7.03

26.
Leon Perry
RB
1985-89
2,016
423
21
4.77


Notice 4 of the top 26 were QBs.
soonervegas
6/26/2006, 02:28 PM
Q - yes.

Demond was #9. Probably would have been much higher on better teams.
GDC
6/26/2006, 02:31 PM
1. Sims
2. McDonald
3. Pruitt
4. Peterson
5. Washington
6. Vessels
7. Owens
8. Wilson
9. Parker
10. Thomas
jk the sooner fan
6/26/2006, 02:35 PM
need to post what his criteria was, it helps the reader understand why he made the choices he did
King Crimson
6/26/2006, 02:37 PM
Pruitt's 7.4 ypc is pretty gaudy.
GDC
6/26/2006, 02:38 PM
need to post what his criteria was, it helps the reader understand why he made the choices he did

He cited his own eye-witness observations since 1967, interviews, and reading.
Octavian
6/26/2006, 02:41 PM
1. Sims
2. McDonald
3. Pruitt
4. Peterson
5. Washington
6. Vessels
7. Owens
8. Wilson
9. Parker
10. Thomas

It'd be nice if we could bump this list at the end of the year and get a good laugh.

as it is...I'd put Little Joe at 2 and move everyone else down a slot...Q would be between Steve and Wilson.
GDC
6/26/2006, 03:05 PM
It'd be nice if we could bump this list at the end of the year and get a good laugh.

as it is...I'd put Little Joe at 2 and move everyone else down a slot...Q would be between Steve and Wilson.

The author actually did make an allowance for moving AD up after this season, acknowledging that his career is still a work in progress.
Sooners78
6/26/2006, 03:30 PM
With four solid seasons, Q should definitely be on there.

It will be fun watching AD move up the all time list this season. Which game will he make it to #1? My prediction is Missouri.
King Crimson
6/26/2006, 03:46 PM
given the other QB's yards per carry, including Mildren, Steve Davis, and Thomas Lott...... Jamelle's 5+ is pretty impressive.

how many of you would have guessed Jerald Moore's ypc was higher than AD's? not me. David Overstreet probably deserves some run in this thread.
Jimminy Crimson
6/26/2006, 05:38 PM
yes
oumartin
6/26/2006, 06:05 PM
Demond Parker? get real
101sooner
6/26/2006, 07:20 PM
I'm old school, but Q should be higher. He started for four years and caught a pass in damn near every game (OU record for consecutive games with a catch?), he blocked better than most of them, and if you just chill a bit and watch his moves on video, he was as good as almost all of them. It'd have been to fun to have him as a half-back in the wishbone era. He'd have been as good as most of our most treasured wishbone running backs, and many of our most beloved wishbone running backs wouldn't have done as well as Q did in the Stoops era.

JMHO.
OKC-SLC
6/26/2006, 07:50 PM
Q absolutely belongs on our list of top ten. solid starter for 4 years, RARELY fumbled, played behind a line that was not necessarily equipped to block for a RB (let's not forget the hands-on-knees that leech and mangino had the OL in pre-snap), won a NC, and represented the university with class. Top ten every day of the week for me.

Dupree MIGHT be in the top 20 for me, but we really don't have much to look at compared to the others.
101sooner
6/26/2006, 07:52 PM
Q absolutely belongs on our list of top ten. solid starter for 4 years, RARELY fumbled, played behind a line that was not necessarily equipped to block for a RB (let's not forget the hands-on-knees that leech and mangino had the OL in pre-snap), won a NC, and represented the university with class. Top ten every day of the week for me.

Dupree MIGHT be in the top 20 for me, but we really don't have much to look at compared to the others.


I forget about the never fumbled thing.
olevetonahill
6/26/2006, 11:11 PM
Q YES
MD NO F__ING WAY
Have to factor in Heart here ,
MD wouldnt even get im my top 100 . Course thats JMHO ;)
Shamelees plug here for the Sooner Spectator :D
But If Yall havnt read it then go buy it ;)
Newbomb Turk
6/26/2006, 11:20 PM
Demond Parker? get real

I thought Parker was pretty damn good. and he played on some bad teams.
oumartin
6/26/2006, 11:25 PM
dude is dead to me..
i guess i'm the only one that recalls him spouting off about not really wanting to play for OU.
olevetonahill
6/26/2006, 11:26 PM
I thought Parker was pretty damn good. and he played on some bad teams.
YUP
If he had Known the quality of B. S. he would have stayed and been great . Maybe our 99 team would have done a lot better. he dayum sure would have increased his stock in the NFL ;)
olevetonahill
6/26/2006, 11:28 PM
dude is dead to me..
i guess i'm the only one that recalls him spouting off about not really wanting to play for OU.
I think it was more disgust in having had to play for Boo
oumartin
6/26/2006, 11:29 PM
what do you know ;)
rhombic21
6/26/2006, 11:32 PM
Q is solidly in the top 10.

Not only as a runner, but let's not forget that he was also a great pass receiver. I think he set an OU record for consecutive games with a catch. Plus he was a great blocker, and he never fumbled.

He was also a great team player. We're talking about a guy who gave up his redshirt 8 games into the season, played hurt a lot in his first 2 years (behind some pretty bad OLs), and never blamed anybody else or was a problem in the locker room.

Quentin Griffin Highlight video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HhmqTdqbepY

How could you NOT put that guy in the top 10?

If DeMond Parker had come back in '99, and Q not had to come out of redshirt, then Q would have probably won 2 NCs a Heisman (he very well could have won a NC and a Heisman if he'd have been eligibile to come back in 2003), and gone down as a top 3 HB in Sooner history.

Parker's also in the top 10, but not in the upper part of it. It's scary to think what the offense would have been like in '99 with Parker at HB. He probably would have made himself several million dollars in improved draft standing.
BajaOklahoma
6/27/2006, 12:17 AM
I have a hard time even admitting that MD set foot in Norman.
What a waste of talent, character and time.
A perfect example of what not to do.
GDC
6/27/2006, 02:01 PM
Joe Don Looney, Marcus Dupree, Mike Gaddis, Freddie Sims, Kerry Jackson and several others could make up a "what might have been list".
oumartin
6/27/2006, 02:03 PM
gaddis might have been the best had it not been for the cotton bowl rug!
the_ouskull
6/27/2006, 03:46 PM
My Top Ten List:

In no particular order:

Vessels,
McDonald,
Owens,
Sims,
Pruitt,
Washington,
Gaddis,
Parker,
Q,
and I'm reserving the 10th spot for a certain bad*ss that's yet to finish his career...

The Mexi-Q, Jacob Guiterrez. GOOT !!!!

http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/Player/photo/JACOB-GUTIERREZ.GIF

the_ouskull
soonerjoker
6/28/2006, 10:15 AM
Q was great, but not a 4 yr starter.

no to marcus. he quit.
soonerjoker
6/28/2006, 10:17 AM
if he'd gone to OU, where would you put Barry.
stoopified
6/30/2006, 08:54 AM
1. Sims
2. McDonald
3. Pruitt
4. Peterson
5. Washington
6. Vessels
7. Owens
8. Wilson
9. Parker
10. Thomas
Is that George or Clendon at# 10 ?.I'm guessing Clendon?
stoopified
6/30/2006, 09:00 AM
dude is dead to me..
i guess i'm the only one that recalls him spouting off about not really wanting to play for OU.I guess so,when did this occur?It would lower my opinion of him as a person ,but not as a player.He was incredibly good in arguably the worst three year period in OU football history.Q and Parker belong,but Dupree no.
SouthFortySooner
6/30/2006, 09:10 AM
My all-time list always turn into a "popularity contest" after about three places.

1. Billy
2. Greg
3. Joe

By the way after this season Adrian moves to the top. :)
GDC
6/30/2006, 11:32 AM
Is that George or Clendon at# 10 ?.I'm guessing Clendon?

You would be correct.