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Sooner24
6/17/2006, 09:43 AM
You are almost free to move about the country.


Selling the Love Field agreement
Dallas, Fort Worth mayors and civic leaders try to win over lawmakers



11:31 PM CDT on Friday, June 16, 2006
By ROBERT DODGE, SUDEEP REDDY and IEVA M. AUGSTUMS / The Dallas Morning News


The mayors of Dallas and Fort Worth worked Friday to nail down the support of House members from North Texas for their Wright amendment compromise.

Dallas Mayor Laura Miller briefed Rep. Jeb Hensarling, R-Dallas, and Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson, D-Dallas, by phone Friday before leaving for a family vacation.

And Fort Worth Mayor Mike Moncrief, other city officials and business executives attended a meeting late Friday arranged by Rep. Joe Barton, R-Ennis, who has positioned himself as a holdout in endorsing the plan.

The closed-door meeting was held in an American Airlines Admirals Club at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport immediately after House members arrived on a flight from Washington.

The meeting was called so that lawmakers could hear the details directly from city and airline officials. Lawmakers had been provided with only bare-bones information earlier in the week.

"They gave us an opportunity to talk through the terms," said Erle Nye, chairman of the Greater Dallas Chamber.


"They've got their duty, their obligation to be thorough and thoughtful about this," said Mr. Nye, the former chairman of TXU Corp. "This is just the first chance we've had to get to the important decision makers."

Mr. Nye said about 25 people sat around a long conference table reviewing the agreement document and breaking in with questions.

He said none of the lawmakers indicated whether they will support or oppose the plan.

"I think consciously, nobody expressed any detailed views," Mr. Nye said. "I think it's fair to say they were impressed with the thoroughness of the agreement."

No clues
After the meeting, lawmakers did not provide any clues to reporters about what they will do.

"I am not committed to anything, supporting it or not," Mr. Barton said. "I am committed to studying it."

And Mr. Moncrief said he was optimistic but did not want to make any predictions. "You can never say what Congress may or not do," the Fort Worth mayor said.

The mayors and airline executives announced the deal with great fanfare Thursday, after months of difficult negotiations. The deal calls for the repeal of Wright in eight years.

But if adopted, it would immediately allow one-stop flights to destinations beyond the nine-state Wright perimeter on a single ticket, something that is prohibited today.

The agreement also limits Southwest Airlines Co. to 16 gates and American Airlines Inc. and Continental Airlines Inc. to two gates each. There are penalties if any airline breaks the deal.

Congress must approve the plan by Dec. 31; otherwise all the parties would have to extend it.

In addition to Mr. Barton, lawmakers attending the D/FW meeting were Ms. Johnson and Reps. Michael Burgess, R-Flower Mound, Kay Granger, R-Fort Worth, Ralph Hall, R-Rockwall, and Kenny Marchant, R-Coppell. Mr. Hensarling monitored the meeting by phone.

Lawmakers also met with Southwest chairman Herb Kelleher, American chief executive Gerard Arpey and Gary Kennedy, American's general counsel. Also attending were Jeff Fegan, D/FW's chief executive, chief operating officer Kevin Cox and Jan Collmer, the airport's board chairman.

The executives were escorted by police through a security checkpoint where they were screened before heading to the hour-and-a-half meeting.

Some members of Congress predict that Mr. Barton and Ms. Granger, who have adamantly opposed repealing Wright, eventually will back the deal along with the rest of the North Texas delegation.

The briefing gave members a chance to ask questions and prepare them for discussions with constituents over the weekend.

The mayors and the two airlines see the unanimous backing of the Texas congressional delegation as essential to winning congressional approval of the plan.

While also seeking approvals from their city councils, the mayors will get their own chance to lobby on Capitol Hill.

Ms. Miller is scheduled to visit Washington on June 27, the day after she returns from vacation.


Some disappointed
Other members of Congress have said they are disappointed in the eight-year repeal date.

They have renewed their calls for full repeal, or to have their individual states added to the destinations where long-haul flights from Love Field are permitted.

House members from Nebraska said Friday that they will continue to push Congress to approve legislation they introduced in May that would add their state to the Wright perimeter.

"This is good but not good enough," said Rep. Jeff Fortenberry, R-Neb.

Don Smithey, the airport director at Omaha's Eppley Airfield, called the North Texas compromise disappointing and predicted the eight-year repeal date would cost travelers in his city millions of dollars while they wait for cheaper flights to Love Field.

"Somebody has to consider the consumer here," Mr. Smithey said.

Mr. Fortenberry is a co-sponsor with Rep. Lee Terry, R-Neb., of a bill that would exempt Nebraska from the Wright law and permit one-stop tickets to destinations in other states.

Jen Rae Hein, a spokeswoman for Mr. Terry, said the lawmaker would continue pushing to have Nebraska added.

"It may help Southwest Airlines, but this agreement does not allow nonstops from Nebraska to Love Field," Mr. Terry said in a prepared statement.

In addition to the fight on Capitol Hill, Ms. Miller also may face a legal wrangle at Love Field.

Ms. Miller said Friday that the operators of the terminal once used by Legend Airlines sent her a "very threatening letter" Tuesday, charging that the City Council's actions had ruined negotiations to sell the facility.

Earlier this month, the City Council authorized the city manager to investigate using eminent domain to seize the property, a move designed to prevent an airline from moving into the vacant facility.

Love Field Terminal Partners owns the terminal and holds a lease with the city on the land that expires in 2023.

Bill Brewer, a Dallas lawyer representing Terminal Partners, said the group is considering a number of actions, including a lawsuit.

After months of negotiations, Mr. Brewer said, his client was nearing a deal to sell the terminal to Pinnacle Airlines for $100 million.

"If I interfere with something that you have going, and I do it intentionally and maliciously, the law may provide a remedy," he said.

StoopTroup
6/17/2006, 09:53 AM
What a mess Southwest has created.

Sooner24
6/17/2006, 10:31 AM
That's right. :mad:



Damn you Southwest for giving us lower airfares. ;)

TUSooner
6/17/2006, 10:41 AM
Thanks for making me go figure out what this thread is about.

StoopTroup
6/17/2006, 10:49 AM
It's about Southwest and American Airlines fighting over Love Field.

Some folks may view it as a way to get lower fares...I view it as a huge problem for the airlines and as a result they both are trying to rally customers to help support their individual causes. Both make good points. The situation shows just how much power the customer has in the Dallas market. I just think that Dallas has always felt it was Rome in Texas and that Ft. Worth and the Metroplex customers are the ones who will ultimately suffer.

DFW was built for a reason...and Southwest Airlines and cost conscious customers could care less.

They are spending huge money in this fight.

Sooner24
6/17/2006, 10:51 AM
Why fight? Why not just compete?

jk the sooner fan
6/17/2006, 10:55 AM
i dont think its about american fighting over love field, its about american trying to squash good competition

they want southwest to fly out of D/FW and pay the same runway fee's, etc....southwest wants to be able to fly out of love and go anywhere they're able

i'm all for repealing the wright amendment.....any time a business can compete like SWA does and offer lower fares, i'm not able to understand why somebody would be against it

SWA winning this battle only hurts american airlines in the pocketbook.....and thats it

StoopTroup
6/17/2006, 11:04 AM
JK...AA isn't the only carrier at DFW and ending SWA's reign at Love would also hurt SWA in the pocket book...

We could argue about it all....

I won't waste my time...

OUT.

Sooner24
6/17/2006, 11:15 AM
JK...AA isn't the only carrier at DFW and ending SWA's reign at Love would also hurt SWA in the pocket book...

We could argue about it all....

I won't waste my time...

OUT.

AA isn't the only carrier at DFW they are just that 800lb gorilla.

Sooner24
6/17/2006, 11:17 AM
Also look how much the airfare to StL and KC have come down since AA moved into some terminals at Love. This would be nothing but a win/win for EVERYONE in the Metroplex. Well everyone except AA maybe. ;)

StoopTroup
6/17/2006, 11:34 AM
AA isn't the only carrier at DFW they are just that 800lb gorilla.
...and SW is the gorilla in Love...

That sounds funny...

Sooner24
6/17/2006, 12:03 PM
Come on ST, comparing DFW to Love Field is like comparing OU to OSU. :rolleyes:

Sooner24
6/17/2006, 12:05 PM
...and SW is the gorilla in Love...

That sounds funny...


That does sound funny. :D

http://www.penfamtours.com/images/ugandagorilla1.jpg

BajaOklahoma
6/17/2006, 12:09 PM
I just wish the people who live around Love Field would just STFU.
They bought homes knowing they were near an airport or in the flightpath.
So I am sorry they were stupid, but it isn't my job to fix their mistake.
And the woman most often on TV is the wife of my former boss. :)

Sooner24
6/17/2006, 12:18 PM
Should we feel sorry for your former boss? ;)

Ruuuuuufus
6/17/2006, 01:37 PM
For those wondering about the specifics about how the Wright amendment came about...

In 1972 the cities of Dallas and Ft Worth sued Southwest after they refused to move to DFW Airport because Love Field was cheaper and closer to downtown Dallas. All the other airlines were required to move to DFW under the 1968 Regional Airport Concurrent Bond Ordinance, but Southwest didn't exist then so they didn't have to move. (Incidentally, they probably would have fallen under the ordinance if they wouldn't have had to go through three years of legal battles from other airlines before they got off ground.)

In 1974 Southwest won the suit and would be allowed to stay at Love Field as long as it remained in commercial use. The Dallas City Council predictably tried to close Love Field to commercial traffic but failed again.

Six years later American Airlines led a group of airlines operating in DFW that petitioned Congress to restrict Love Field flights to Texas destinations only. This led to the ratification of the Wright Amendment which restricted Love Field flights exclusively to Texas and the surrounding states of New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana. More states were added later. When Missouri was added, fares from from Dallas to Missouri dropped by 50% at Love Field and DFW.

StoopTroup
6/17/2006, 01:57 PM
The key word in Ruuuuuufus' info there is that all the others were REQUIRED to move.

They now are going to have to compete in both markets at a time when everyone of them are competing for the health of their Company's long time future.

It's good for the consumer now...

In the future...we'll see.

1stTimeCaller
6/17/2006, 02:25 PM
Wasn't Congressman Wright a large shareholder with AA?

on a side note, instead of declaring bankruptcy and having the American taxpayer bail out these other airline companies, why don't they adopt SWA's business model?

BajaOklahoma
6/17/2006, 02:39 PM
Should we feel sorry for your former boss? ;)

Well, his wife rules the roost, so maybe.
And they have more money than most of the rest of us - put together.
I don't feel sorry for him.

mdklatt
6/17/2006, 02:52 PM
All this originally started as a way to protect the investment in DFW; the cities involved (particularly Fort Worth) didn't want the new airport to wither on the vine due to competition from Love Field. Does anybody think that the sixth busiest airport in the world, which averages a takeoff or landing every 45 seconds, still needs a competetive advantage enforced by the federal government? This is all about American Airlines trying to keep a stranglehold on the Dallas-Fort Worth air travel market. And the city of Fort Worth needs to stop the hypocrisy because they have commercial cargo flights using Alliance airport, and nothing is stopping them from attracting passenger service to Meacham Field.

jk the sooner fan
6/17/2006, 03:11 PM
JK...AA isn't the only carrier at DFW and ending SWA's reign at Love would also hurt SWA in the pocket book...

We could argue about it all....

I won't waste my time...

OUT.

AA is concerned because if SWA can fly to the same cities that AA does for cheaper....well i think its obvious....why the hell do you think AA moved back out to Love Field?

and the experiment is failing miserably, they've reduced their flights out there already in less than a year because they cant compete

tbl
6/17/2006, 03:26 PM
Repeal the Wright Ammendment. Disband the AA unions (or all unions in the US for that matter). Force American to compete.

I fly Airtran all the time, but for people in DFW it's not as convenient b/c a lot of the flights go through ATL instead of one way. Airtran and SW are forcing Delta and AA to compete, and will eventually either put them out of business or force them to restructure from the ground up.

OKLA21FAN
6/17/2006, 08:57 PM
so does this mean the COTTON BOWL will be fixed?

just askin


Laura Miller is dead to me

StoopTroup
6/17/2006, 09:21 PM
Repeal the Wright Ammendment. Disband the AA unions (or all unions in the US for that matter). Force American to compete.

BTW...

SW has unions.

Delta had a good part of their work force that was non-union.

United and Northwest both said they couldn't compete as long as their Mechanic Unions were negotiating unreasonable pay wages. United is still in trouble after outsourcing their Heavy Maintenance and Northwest is continuing to hit it's other employees for wage and work concessions even after laying off most of their Maintenance Personel and outsourcing their jobs.

Eastern Airlines went into oblivion after the Chairman there couldn't get along with the Pilots.

Reagan did what your implying to the Air Traffic Controllers. The skies are no safer now than they were.

I really don't see what repealing the Wright Amendment and disbanding the Unions will do to force American to compete. Every work group at American gave concessions and have pulled together to keep the company competitive during the toughest times in Aviation History.

Southwest was still hedging their fuel purchases last I remember but they seemed to be running out of reasons to try to hedge their fuel costs.

Fuel is the #1 concern for every Airline...

From what I can tell...everyone who gases up their car anymore has the same concern.

Unions were created because of bad management practices. Nothing much has changed.