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Mjcpr
6/7/2006, 03:28 PM
As you see here, and I think this is maybe the most important prop we値l have during the entire debate, my wife and I have been married 47 years. We have 20 kids and grandkids. I知 really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we致e never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship.

Kind of a weird statement. :confused:

Here's the video (http://images1.americanprogress.org/il80web20037/ThinkProgress/2006/inhofe.320.240.mov)

tbl
6/7/2006, 03:31 PM
Why is that a weird statement? That is something to be proud of, and not something many families can claim.

Mjcpr
6/7/2006, 03:34 PM
Just seemed like a weird thing to say to me.

OklahomaTuba
6/7/2006, 03:36 PM
Something they should be very proud of I think. I guess the "progressives" think otherwise, thus the need to post it on their website. I think that says a lot about how these so called "progressives" view the traditional family.

20 kids and grandkids is a lot!

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 03:38 PM
there's a fag in the group, granddad just doesn't know about it yet.

Hamhock
6/7/2006, 03:38 PM
Kind of a weird statement. :confused:

Here's the video (http://images1.americanprogress.org/il80web20037/ThinkProgress/2006/inhofe.320.240.mov)





I agree. Anyone that stays married for 47 years is stooooopid.

SoonerInKCMO
6/7/2006, 03:39 PM
Yeah, cause if one of them damn grandkids was a fudge-packin' queer we'd have to kick Jim's sorry *** outta office!!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Mjcpr
6/7/2006, 03:39 PM
BTW, I stole this thread from another board.

King Crimson
6/7/2006, 03:39 PM
what about racial purity? that's important too.

Hamhock
6/7/2006, 03:39 PM
there's a fag in the group, granddad just doesn't know about it yet.


When are you going to tell him?

;)

Mjcpr
6/7/2006, 03:40 PM
I agree. Anyone that stays married for 47 years is stooooopid.

Who said that?

SoonerInKCMO
6/7/2006, 03:41 PM
what about racial purity? that's important too.

True... we better check into the grandkids' lives to see if any of 'em got jungle fever. Jim might have some splainin' to do.

Hamhock
6/7/2006, 03:41 PM
Who said that?


I was kidding. The out-of-the-ordinary part of the statement was the homo part. For funny, I highlighted the non-out-of-the-ordinary part. Hence the ;) .

SoonerInKCMO
6/7/2006, 03:42 PM
Who said that?

YOU DID YOU GOD HATIN' LIBERAL HOMO!!!!!

:mad: :mad:

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 03:42 PM
I find it weird that he didn't say that the family has been anal sex free also.

SoonerInKCMO
6/7/2006, 03:43 PM
HE DIDN'T MENTION IT BECAUSE A FAMILY AS PURE AS HIS HAS NEVER HEARD OF SUCH A PERVERSION.

FREAK!!!

mdklatt
6/7/2006, 03:45 PM
I won't vote for him unless he can prove that nobody in the Inhofe clan has had pre-marital sex.


:rolleyes:

Hamhock
6/7/2006, 03:45 PM
It is kinda weird. I would be very proud of the divorce part. I'd probably use it as part of the campaign too.

But, has homosexuality so saturated our society that it is necessary to note if there is a track record of homo-freeness? I know lots of large families that are "free of homosexual relationships". Seems to me like he is comparing an event that occurs very frequently (divorce) with something that is still pretty rare (butt piracy).

Mjcpr
6/7/2006, 03:46 PM
Find the Mo

http://americablog.blogspot.com/uploaded_images/inhofefamily-744165.jpg

tbl
6/7/2006, 03:47 PM
what about racial purity? that's important too.

That almost made me spit cereal on the screen.

Hopefully you don't see the that as even the same ballpark to the other two and said it to be funny... b/c it was funny.

tbl
6/7/2006, 03:48 PM
But, has homosexuality so saturated our society that it is necessary to note if there is a track record of homo-freeness?

Yes. Watch TV sometime... it's pretty pathetic.

OklahomaTuba
6/7/2006, 03:49 PM
Seems to me like he is comparing an event that occurs very frequently (divorce) with something that is still pretty rare (butt piracy).

Well, there is this thing called context that seems to be lacking in this sound bite.

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 03:49 PM
I won't vote for him unless he can prove that nobody in the Inhofe clan has had pre-marital sex.


:rolleyes:

it's not pre-marital if you don't plan on marryin' the yainch

mdklatt
6/7/2006, 03:50 PM
Find the Mo



Ugh. That picture gives me mixed emotions. Inhofe is a pilot and huge supporter of aviation--just say no to user fees--but that whole holier than bull**** is extremely off-putting.

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 03:52 PM
the lady in the black shirt in the front probably did a little 'experimenting' at the ole Tri-Delt house back in the day.

Hatfield
6/7/2006, 03:52 PM
It is kinda weird. I would be very proud of the divorce part. I'd probably use it as part of the campaign too.

But, has homosexuality so saturated our society that it is necessary to note if there is a track record of homo-freeness? I know lots of large families that are "free of homosexual relationships". Seems to me like he is comparing an event that occurs very frequently (divorce) with something that is still pretty rare (butt piracy).


i agree. (i hope that wasn't painful)

i too think it is admirable that his family is divorce free...it is also sad that apparently he wouldn't love a member of his family just because they caught the gay.

NormanPride
6/7/2006, 03:53 PM
I don't get this, by saying what he does, he endears some of the conservatives out there a little bit more... but completely alienates himself from the homosexuals and many of those that have experienced divorce or even been around it. I know I would never consider voting for someone like that, but I've never experienced divorce.

picasso
6/7/2006, 03:53 PM
his nephew was my hand doctor/specialist. dude was one sharp cat.

also, although I may not agree, he has as much a right to say that as does some fella who's proud of having a family full of divorce and backdoor shenanigans.

OklahomaTuba
6/7/2006, 03:53 PM
Ugh. That picture gives me mixed emotions. Inhofe is a pilot and huge supporter of aviation--just say no to user fees--but that whole holier than bull**** is extremely off-putting.

Ahh, so being proud that your family hasn't had to go thru the turmoil of divorce or had to deal with sexual deviancy is being holier than bull****?

mdklatt
6/7/2006, 03:54 PM
Ahh, so being proud that your family hasn't had to go thru the turmoil of divorce or had to deal with sexual deviancy is being holier than bull****?

No, assuming that it makes you more qualified for political office is.

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 03:55 PM
The picasso Clan: marriage and hetero free since 1987

:D

Mjcpr
6/7/2006, 03:55 PM
I had no idea this guy was an Inhofe.

http://fishki.net/pics/owned.jpg

Hamhock
6/7/2006, 03:56 PM
Ugh. That picture gives me mixed emotions. Inhofe is a pilot and huge supporter of aviation--just say no to user fees--but that whole holier than bull**** is extremely off-putting.


Would you feel different if he would have left off the homoe statistic?

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 03:57 PM
I had no idea this guy was an Inhofe.

http://fishki.net/pics/owned.jpg


HO
LEE
****e

that's funny right there

hurricane'bone
6/7/2006, 03:57 PM
Find the Mo

http://americablog.blogspot.com/uploaded_images/inhofefamily-744165.jpg


I wonder what the background of that picture originally was.

picasso
6/7/2006, 03:58 PM
The picasso Clan: marriage and hetero free since 1987

:D
hehe.

tbl
6/7/2006, 03:58 PM
i too think it is admirable that his family is divorce free...it is also sad that apparently he wouldn't love a member of his family just because they caught the gay.

Who said he wouldn't love them? He said he's proud of the fact that none of his direct descendants have been divorced or homosexual. Would you be proud if your son was a homo? Probably not, but you definitely wouldn't stop loving him. I will love my children no matter what, but I will not agree or condone everything they do, simply b/c they're my kids.

OklahomaTuba
6/7/2006, 03:58 PM
it is also sad that apparently he wouldn't love a member of his family just because they caught the gay.
Apparently, you assume too much.

NormanPride
6/7/2006, 03:58 PM
I wonder what the background of that picture originally was.

A gay rally for divorcees.

Hamhock
6/7/2006, 04:00 PM
I wonder what the background of that picture originally was.


PFLAG parade?

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 04:01 PM
they were probably with that wacko pastor fella from Topeka and were helping protest a funeral

OklahomaTuba
6/7/2006, 04:02 PM
Who said he wouldn't love them? He said he's proud of the fact that none of his direct descendants have been divorced or homosexual. Would you be proud if your son was a homo? Probably not, but you definitely wouldn't stop loving him. I will love my children no matter what, but I will not agree or condone everything they do, simply b/c they're my kids.

Obviously you didn't read the "progressive" website, where it says that being a Christian = being a hateful bigoted fascist.

mdklatt
6/7/2006, 04:02 PM
Would you feel different if he would have left off the homoe statistic?

Probably, since I think homosexuality is about as aberrant as being left-handed. But I would still want to know what bearing divorce has on his political qualifications. Bringing it up is nothing but pandering--and a misguided bit of pandering in a state near the top of list in divorce rates.

OklahomaTuba
6/7/2006, 04:04 PM
they were probably with that wacko pastor fella from Topeka and were helping protest a funeral
Nah, i doubt they would be seen with Al Gore.

picasso
6/7/2006, 04:04 PM
Probably, since I think homosexuality is about as aberrant as being left-handed. But I would still want to know what bearing divorce has on his political qualifications. Bringing it up is nothing but pandering--and a misguided bit of pandering in a state near the top of list in divorce rates.
pandering? no! a politician too? Shirley you jest.

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 04:05 PM
what's he running for?

etouffee
6/7/2006, 04:05 PM
So... no divorces and no gays in his family means what, exactly? He's better than me?

Ike
6/7/2006, 04:06 PM
I don't know about y'all, but in my opinion, being proud that your kids and grandkids have thus far turned out not-gay and not-divorced seems to be setting the bar a little bit low. I mean, I'd much rather say that I am proud that my kids and grand kids have turned out to be decent and honest people.


But then again, maybe only indecent and dishonest people go gay or get divorced.

mdklatt
6/7/2006, 04:06 PM
what's he running for?

Governor, I think.

EDIT: Never mind, I was thinking of Istook. But Inhofe's a politician--he's always running for something. Thus, every word out of his mouth is a political calculation. That's all the context we need to interpret this.

Hamhock
6/7/2006, 04:07 PM
Probably, since I think homosexuality is about as aberrant as being left-handed. But I would still want to know what bearing divorce has on his political qualifications. Bringing it up is nothing but pandering--and a misguided bit of pandering in a state near the top of list in divorce rates.


Putting in the hard work that it takes to stay married and providing an environment that encourages your family to do the same isn't a favorable attribute?

So, your view is that homosexuality is normal?

OklahomaTuba
6/7/2006, 04:07 PM
So... no divorces and no gays in his family means what, exactly? He's better than me?

Well, that and he isn't a LSU fan.

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 04:08 PM
The Inhofe Clan: Chinese Handcuff and Hot Carl Free Since 1999

OklahomaTuba
6/7/2006, 04:08 PM
So, your view is that homosexuality is normal?
Of course homosexuality is normal. Haven't you watched TV?!??!??

Mjcpr
6/7/2006, 04:08 PM
I don't think I've ever started a ****storm before.

:D

Hamhock
6/7/2006, 04:10 PM
Of course homosexuality is normal. Haven't you watched TV?!??!??


no

Howzit
6/7/2006, 04:10 PM
Hot Carl?

mdklatt
6/7/2006, 04:10 PM
So... no divorces and no gays in his family means what, exactly? He's better than me?

Yep. Now go back to getting some butt lovin' from your divorce lawyer.

Hatfield
6/7/2006, 04:12 PM
Obviously you didn't read the "progressive" website, where it says that being a Christian = being a hateful bigoted fascist.


that is not at all true.

Hamhock
6/7/2006, 04:12 PM
So... no divorces and no gays in his family means what, exactly? He's better than me?


So, every time a politician lists an accomplishment or credential, you automatically think he is saying he's better than you?

Mjcpr
6/7/2006, 04:12 PM
Yep. Now go back to getting some butt lovin' from your divorce lawyer.

Butt lovin', had me a blast
Butt lovin', happened so fast
Met a girl crazy for me
Met a boy cute as can be
Summer days drifting away
To, uh oh, those summer nights

Howzit
6/7/2006, 04:13 PM
I have armadillos.

KABOOKIE
6/7/2006, 04:14 PM
Hot Carl?


Urban dictionary, man......

Mjcpr
6/7/2006, 04:14 PM
HO
LEE
****e
that's funny right there

:D

Everyone in this thread is too uptight to laugh.

Hatfield
6/7/2006, 04:14 PM
what's he running for?

you shouldn't end your sentences in prepostions....and he is running because it helps you stay in shape and stuff

Howzit
6/7/2006, 04:14 PM
And by "armadillos" I do NOT mean "hot Carls."

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 04:15 PM
And by "armadillos" I do NOT mean "hot Carls."

riiiiiiight

Mjcpr
6/7/2006, 04:15 PM
Hot Carl?

I bet you'd know what it was if he said a Chili Dog wouldntcha?

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 04:15 PM
Alabama nose warmer!!!


who comes up with this ****e?

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
6/7/2006, 04:16 PM
sure, he's eccentric, but is a good voter. keep him as OK senator.

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 04:16 PM
sure, he's eccentric, but is a good voter. keep him as OK senator.

keep him?

mdklatt
6/7/2006, 04:19 PM
Putting in the hard work that it takes to stay married and providing an environment that encourages your family to do the same isn't a favorable attribute?

Sure, but that doesn't tell the whole story. Just because you're married doesn't mean you're not a worthless excuse for a human being. For all we know, one son is a drunk who beats his wife and has her too scared to even consider divorce. And maybe another son commited a string of date rapes in college until he settled down with his current wife (who knows nothing about his bastard child from those days). For the record, I wouldn't judge him by the actions of his adult children in any case.



So, your view is that homosexuality is normal?

Not normal, but natural. I'd be just as impressed if he told me everyone is his family was born with ten fingers and ten toes. And in any case, it doesn't matter to me if you're born that way or not. It's your own damn business, so who cares?

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
6/7/2006, 04:21 PM
sure, he's eccentric, but is a good voter. keep him as OK senator.As if I needed even more of an incentive to vote for "The Other Guy."

mdklatt
6/7/2006, 04:22 PM
So, every time a politician lists an accomplishment or credential, you automatically think he is saying he's better than you?

That's the point--being heterosexual isn't much of an "accomplishment" is it? Also, it has nothing to do with his political qualifications.

Pricetag
6/7/2006, 04:24 PM
you shouldn't end your sentences in prepostions....
Okay, what's he running for, a-hole?

Mjcpr
6/7/2006, 04:25 PM
Okay, what's he running for, a-hole?

I doubt it, didn't you hear him say there are no mo's in his family?

Keep up.

lefty
6/7/2006, 04:26 PM
Okay, what's he running for, a-hole?

It seems he already won that race.

picasso
6/7/2006, 04:27 PM
it's a dumb statement in the context given. my parents were as good they come and we've had a string of divorces in my family. and of course cousin Howzit plays on the "other" team.

I'm guessing it was in response to the marriage bill that was shot down?

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 04:27 PM
people, we've moved on. Pat and Howzit are talking about Hot Carls and Chili Dogs.

Hamhock
6/7/2006, 04:28 PM
Sure, but that doesn't tell the whole story.


And what campaign statement does? If the guy would have listed some other accomplishment, you wouldn't react this way. Staying married for 47 years is one helluva accomplishment and raising kids with the same values is noteworthy. Just because marriage is viewed (geez, has it really come to this?) as a conservative value, he is attacked for touting it.

mdklatt
6/7/2006, 04:29 PM
Pat and Howzit are talking about Hot Carls

Mmmmm...I like me some soft pretzels.

lefty
6/7/2006, 04:31 PM
And what campaign statement does? If the guy would have listed some other accomplishment, you wouldn't react this way. Staying married for 47 years is one helluva accomplishment and raising kids with the same values is noteworthy. Just because marriage is viewed (geez, has it really come to this?) as a conservative value, he is attacked for touting it.

Gay marriage is a conservative value? Who knew?

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 04:32 PM
hot carl

BeetDigger
6/7/2006, 04:35 PM
people, we've moved on. Pat and Howzit are talking about Hot Carls and Chili Dogs.


And I think that Howzit was discussing some beastiality with an armadillo. Hard to believe that didn't generate more discussion.

Soonrboy
6/7/2006, 04:35 PM
No divorces, but no mention of extra marital affairs, bitterness, or anger that abounds.

"But, I'm a ****ing Inhoff"

etouffee
6/7/2006, 04:39 PM
So, if he's "really proud" that in the recorded history of his family there has never been a homosexual relationship, then I suppose that those of us who have had gay people in the recorded history of our families should feel "really ashamed"? After all, it's clearly our fault that someone in our family was gay, and that makes us inferior to Mr. Inhofe.

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 04:39 PM
hot carl

yermom
6/7/2006, 04:41 PM
So, if he's "really proud" that in the recorded history of his family there has never been a homosexual relationship, then I suppose that those of us who have had gay people in the recorded history of our families should feel "really ashamed"? After all, it's clearly our fault that someone in our family was gay, and that makes us inferior to Mr. Inhofe.

he didn't say none of them was gay, just no "homosexual relationships"

as long as they don't shack up or anything, it's all good ;)

mdklatt
6/7/2006, 04:43 PM
If the guy would have listed some other accomplishment, you wouldn't react this way.

This was a calculated statement intended to appeal to the voters whose nipples get hard when they hear the phrase "Oklahoma values". If that's his strategy, fine, but it doesn't do anything for me.

etouffee
6/7/2006, 04:43 PM
and he was quick to qualify the statement with "recorded history". maybe they just didn't include the parts they didn't like in the official record.

NormanPride
6/7/2006, 04:43 PM
And what campaign statement does? If the guy would have listed some other accomplishment, you wouldn't react this way. Staying married for 47 years is one helluva accomplishment and raising kids with the same values is noteworthy. Just because marriage is viewed (geez, has it really come to this?) as a conservative value, he is attacked for touting it.

You're comparing apples and oranges. If he listed something like "Valedictorian of Harvard Law School '62" or something we could all agree that is quantifiably amazing. If he listed all the charities he donated to, that is also quantifiably good. But this is not the same. I don't mind the divorce as much because it's also obvious that keeping relationships going that long is a great thing, but homosexuality? What the hell?

The other point would be that nobody would think "So since I'm not a Harvard Law Valedictorian I must be filth, huh?" But the other "qualifications" can be viewed that way. Saying that you haven't done something implies that something is bad.

etouffee
6/7/2006, 04:45 PM
Why is he proud no one in his family is gay? Is he taking credit for that?

yermom
6/7/2006, 04:46 PM
maybe he beat it out of a few of them or something

NormanPride
6/7/2006, 04:46 PM
Why is he proud no one in his family is gay? Is he taking credit for that?

Of course. Because no good person would ever have a gay relative.

mdklatt
6/7/2006, 04:47 PM
he didn't say none of them was gay, just no "homosexual relationships"



The part of the video where Inhofe mentioned that Jim Jr. spent 10 months in a homosexual "treatment" facility when he was 15 was edited out due to time constraints. :D

etouffee
6/7/2006, 04:49 PM
I'm sure he wouldn't want his good name tarnished by being elected on the votes of inferior, unclean people with divorces n' fags in their families, so if I was in his district, I think I'd have to vote for someone else out of respect for such a great man.

1stTimeCaller
6/7/2006, 04:49 PM
hot carl
armadillos

yermom
6/7/2006, 04:50 PM
hot carl
armadillos

you need to stop hanging out with Howzit

mdklatt
6/7/2006, 04:52 PM
I'm sure he wouldn't want his good name tarnished by being elected on the votes of inferior, unclean people with divorces...in their families

This is Oklahoma we're talking about. There won't be anybody left to vote for him.

Scott D
6/7/2006, 04:54 PM
Find the Mo

http://americablog.blogspot.com/uploaded_images/inhofefamily-744165.jpg

you know gramma did a lil carpet munching in her day ;)

C&CDean
6/7/2006, 04:58 PM
While I find it admirable that he can make those claims right now, can you imagine the pressure he's put on the family? Just think how devistated he's gonna be when one of the grandsons gets the first divorce or gobbles goo. He'll probably have them killed and the body dismembered and fed to dingos.

Seriously, good on him and his clan. I don't see him saying this to make himself superior in any way. Dude is just stating a fact. Pretty rare to get the truth out of a politician these days. And I'll vote for him. Not cause he ain't been divorced though.

Hamhock
6/7/2006, 04:58 PM
You're comparing apples and oranges. If he listed something like "Valedictorian of Harvard Law School '62" or something we could all agree that is quantifiably amazing. If he listed all the charities he donated to, that is also quantifiably good. But this is not the same. I don't mind the divorce as much because it's also obvious that keeping relationships going that long is a great thing, but homosexuality? What the hell?

The other point would be that nobody would think "So since I'm not a Harvard Law Valedictorian I must be filth, huh?" But the other "qualifications" can be viewed that way. Saying that you haven't done something implies that something is bad.


I stated early on that I thought the homo comment was a little wierd. I am mainly talking about his marriage and the sense of commitment in marriage he's passed to his kids.

I think the homo statement is wierd mainly because I think it gives too much credibility to the influence the homosexual lifestyle has on us. I mean, he left out cross dressers and transvestites.

mdklatt
6/7/2006, 04:59 PM
Of course. Because no good person would ever have a gay child.

Fixed.

You can't be blamed for depravities outside of your immediate family. It's not your call to kick your nephew out of the family if he comes home with a boyfriend. Sure, you can encourage your brother/sister to do what needs to be done, but in the end that's the parents' call. The best you can if comes to that is disown that entire branch of the family.

NormanPride
6/7/2006, 05:01 PM
I stated early on that I thought the homo comment was a little wierd. I am mainly talking about his marriage and the sense of commitment in marriage he's passed to his kids.

I think the homo statement is wierd mainly because I think it gives too much credibility to the influence the homosexual lifestyle has on us. I mean, he left out cross dressers and transvestites.

Are you saying he's a tranny?! :D

Hamhock
6/7/2006, 05:02 PM
While I find it admirable that he can make those claims right now, can you imagine the pressure he's put on the family? Just think how devistated he's gonna be when one of the grandsons gets the first divorce or gobbles goo. He'll probably have them killed and the body dismembered and fed to dingos.

Seriously, good on him and his clan. I don't see him saying this to make himself superior in any way. Dude is just stating a fact. Pretty rare to get the truth out of a politician these days. And I'll vote for him. Not cause he ain't been divorced though.


Been there. Grandpa, Grandma, kids and grandkids make 21. No divorces, until my sister. I'd like to think that a family that has really built their foundation on family values can put the "No Divorce" trophy in the trash and love their family member regardless. I think a lot of people gained respect for grandpa and grandma because of how they handled sis' divorce.

mdklatt
6/7/2006, 05:02 PM
I don't see him saying this to make himself superior in any way. Dude is just stating a fact.

Politicians never just state a fact. Every word out of their mouth is meant to make them sound superior to a potential opponent.

C&CDean
6/7/2006, 05:05 PM
Politicians never just state a fact. Every word out of their mouth is meant to make them sound superior to a potential opponent.

I don't think he's running against etouffe.

picasso
6/7/2006, 05:08 PM
I don't think he's running against etouffe.
no, he has enough **** in his own backyard.

BeetDigger
6/7/2006, 05:11 PM
You know, you're all fixated on the gay meaning two dudes being bowed up, it can mean two chicks munching carpet. I just want to make that clear.

As you were.

Scott D
6/7/2006, 05:12 PM
You know, you're all fixated on the gay meaning two dudes being bowed up, it can mean two chicks munching carpet. I just want to make that clear.

As you were.

*ahem* what did I say about gramma again? :D

etouffee
6/7/2006, 05:12 PM
I call shennanigans! That photo has been doctored by Imhofe's people, and I've got the original to prove it!!!

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/905/imhofes6if.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

BajaOklahoma
6/7/2006, 05:13 PM
I would be more impressed if he could say that none of his family are Aggies.



You guys are just fighting over the unimportant stuff.

Scott D
6/7/2006, 05:14 PM
that picture would look more convicning if you'd given all of the men his face.

NormanPride
6/7/2006, 05:20 PM
etoufee does a fark without :bsmf:? wha...?

TUSooner
6/7/2006, 06:11 PM
Find the Mo

http://americablog.blogspot.com/uploaded_images/inhofefamily-744165.jpg
Why does that make me think of
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6827/sgtpep3bb.jpg

:confused:

tbl
6/7/2006, 06:25 PM
I don't know about y'all, but in my opinion, being proud that your kids and grandkids have thus far turned out not-gay and not-divorced seems to be setting the bar a little bit low. I mean, I'd much rather say that I am proud that my kids and grand kids have turned out to be decent and honest people.


But then again, maybe only indecent and dishonest people go gay or get divorced.
Since that statement is his life credo, I'm sure those are the only things he's proud of his family for. :rolleyes:

For the record, I don't know anything about Inhoffe. I just saw the clip and I think his statement is not worthy of being ridiculed. It makes sense, and I think most people here would agree with him if their families turned out as such.

tbl
6/7/2006, 06:30 PM
So... no divorces and no gays in his family means what, exactly? He's better than me?
You really think you're better than me, don't ya!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c6/Seinfeld_s6e18.jpg

tbl
6/7/2006, 06:33 PM
So, if he's "really proud" that in the recorded history of his family there has never been a homosexual relationship, then I suppose that those of us who have had gay people in the recorded history of our families should feel "really ashamed"? After all, it's clearly our fault that someone in our family was gay, and that makes us inferior to Mr. Inhofe.

He's talking about his direct descendents... Plus, I don't know as if he's tooting his own horn for that. Sounded to me like he's just happy that hasn't happened yet. Either way, yes... he is better than you. ;)

I have divorces, teen pregnancies, drugs, prison, spousal abuse, and an aunt that went gay for a year in my family. Inhoffe has scoreboarded my grandparents by 47 points... :D

Mjcpr
6/7/2006, 07:22 PM
I have divorces, teen pregnancies, drugs, prison, spousal abuse, and an aunt that went gay for a year in my family. Inhoffe has scoreboarded my grandparents by 47 points... :D

I'm glad she was able to switch back before it took for keeps.

etouffee
6/7/2006, 07:43 PM
etoufee does a fark without :bsmf:? wha...?

I'm working on one. It will be called "Divorced Guy Who Turned Gay Stole My Fish", or DGWTGSMF for short. I'm very excited about it.

nmsoonergirl
6/7/2006, 07:44 PM
I of course didn't read this whole thread, cause that would be crazy, but I have to know: Is Istook REALLY running for governor?

Vaevictis
6/7/2006, 08:13 PM
I'm no fan of the guy, but I think it's really just a pre-emptive strike.

There's been some rumblings on the liberal blogs about holding the feet of certain conservative politicians who run on "protecting marriage" who also happen to be divorced and/or of ambiguous sexual orientation.

He's probably just pre-emptively defending himself.

(... of course, because he didn't say there wasn't, we can all assume there are grotesque amounts of sodomy going on though; remember, not all backdoor action is gay. )

TopDawg
6/7/2006, 11:17 PM
I agree with the original post. It is a weird thing to say. Very weird. It's not necessarily a weird thing to be proud of, but it is a weird thing to say. People with tact have things called filters that keep them from, among other things, blurting out everything they're proud of. Maybe Inhofe's filters, if he ever had them, are wearing down.

But I'd like to reexamine his quote: "As you see here, and I think this is maybe the most important prop we’ll have during the entire debate, my wife and I have been married 47 years. We have 20 kids and grandkids. I’m really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we’ve never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship."

The phrasing in that last sentence is a bit awkward. Using the word "we" in that last phrase leaves it a little vague. By "we" he could just be referring to his wife and himself, not his entire family. Or "we" could be his way of disguising previous divorces and/or homosexual relationships. To put it another way, Joe Schmo who has a kid from a previous marriage can say "My current wife and I are happy. But we have never had kids." It's not true that Joe has never had kids, but it's true for him, when speaking about his current wife, to say "we have never had kids."

I just think it's all too fishy to believe any of it. Especially now that we've seen the original photo.

Jimminy Crimson
6/8/2006, 01:12 AM
Inhofe is a cool cat.

It's funny watching his Christmas card picture grow every year.

Mongo
6/8/2006, 01:27 AM
When someone "comes out of the closet", they are praised for thier courage. You watch any reality program on a "progressive" channel and it always deals with a person who has announced and parades their alternative lifestyle. Then all of a sudden someone announces the opposite of said lifestyle, then its wrong or unusual? Hypocrocy at its finest.

ouflak
6/8/2006, 04:23 AM
The part of the video where Inhofe mentioned that Jim Jr. spent 10 months in a homosexual "treatment" facility when he was 15 was edited out due to time constraints. :D

But he was a cheerleader!!

etouffee
6/8/2006, 05:54 AM
When someone "comes out of the closet", they are praised for thier courage.By a few people. By others, they are ridiculed, abandoned, abused, or discriminated against.

You watch any reality program on a "progressive" channel and it always deals with a person who has announced and parades their alternative lifestyle.ANY reality show? I think not. ALWAYS deals with a person celebrating an alternate lifestyle? I think not. Exaggerate much?
Then all of a sudden someone announces the opposite of said lifestyle, then its wrong or unusual? Hypocrocy at its finest.You fail to grasp a number of important points, but in the interest of time, I'll address the most important one. There's a big difference in announcing you're proud that you ARE something (gay, for instance) and announcing you're proud that you're NOT something (a person with divorced people in his family, for example). But let's simplify it even further. If I come out and say "I'm proud to have red hair"... then so what? Nobody's offended. However, if I say "I'm proud that I'd DON'T have red hair", there's a very strong implication that there is something WRONG with having red hair, and red headed people are quite naturally going to take offense. Thus, it's best not to say you're proud of NOT having some quality, unless your aim is to insult people who do.

Hamhock
6/8/2006, 08:04 AM
I agree with the original post. It is a weird thing to say. Very weird. It's not necessarily a weird thing to be proud of, but it is a weird thing to say. People with tact have things called filters that keep them from, among other things, blurting out everything they're proud of. Maybe Inhofe's filters, if he ever had them, are wearing down.

But I'd like to reexamine his quote: "As you see here, and I think this is maybe the most important prop we値l have during the entire debate, my wife and I have been married 47 years. We have 20 kids and grandkids. I知 really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we致e never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship."

The phrasing in that last sentence is a bit awkward. Using the word "we" in that last phrase leaves it a little vague. By "we" he could just be referring to his wife and himself, not his entire family. Or "we" could be his way of disguising previous divorces and/or homosexual relationships. To put it another way, Joe Schmo who has a kid from a previous marriage can say "My current wife and I are happy. But we have never had kids." It's not true that Joe has never had kids, but it's true for him, when speaking about his current wife, to say "we have never had kids."

I just think it's all too fishy to believe any of it. Especially now that we've seen the original photo.


I think stating that on a technicality is too risky. His opponents will be scrutinizing his claims for sure.

1stTimeCaller
6/8/2006, 08:10 AM
hot carl

Hamhock
6/8/2006, 08:13 AM
Thus, it's best not to say you're proud of NOT having some quality, unless your aim is to insult people who do.


Again, why do you assume that his statement is an insult to you. You previously stated that his being proud he hasn't been divorced means he thinks he is better than you.

If I say I have never had a speeding ticket, and you have, are you insulted? Somebody can't be proud of something because someone else who hasn't worked as hard or who hasn't been as fortunate could be offended? We should stop handing out Olympic medals, or trophies of any kind. Think of the people who could be offended!!

Maybe he should have said, "we've all stayed married", thus focusing on the marriage, not the divorce. You would still take away the same message.

I don't think people have any control over what color hair they're born with, anyhow.

Hamhock
6/8/2006, 08:15 AM
hot carl


Do I even want to know?

MamaMia
6/8/2006, 08:20 AM
It is kinda weird. I would be very proud of the divorce part. I'd probably use it as part of the campaign too.

But, has homosexuality so saturated our society that it is necessary to note if there is a track record of homo-freeness? I know lots of large families that are "free of homosexual relationships". Seems to me like he is comparing an event that occurs very frequently (divorce) with something that is still pretty rare (butt piracy).
Maybe, if you're trying to get people who believe in the bible to vote for you?

Oh...and please dont be too hard on Jim. Hes a long time family friend who has no problem with the fact that my sister is divorced and that her X husband was a gay Air Force pilot.

Vaevictis
6/8/2006, 08:38 AM
Oh...and please dont be too hard on Jim. Hes a long time family friend who has no problem with the fact that my sister is divorced and that her X husband was a gay Air Force pilot.

Unless he's campaigning? :)

frankensooner
6/8/2006, 09:19 AM
I still like to call him Jack and then giggle, but that is just me...;)

MamaMia
6/8/2006, 09:31 AM
Unless he's campaigning? :)Actually, hes a very accepting person no matter who he meets and what hes doing. Like everyone else, he has his own beliefs. By saying that he has never been divorced, he is trying to send the message that he makes sound, well thought out choices. Many people are divorced for not doing just that. He doesnt agree with gayness because of religion.

BTW..Jim is very wealthy in his own right and has never had to pound a campaign sign to make a highly successful living. He has donated more money to charity than he will ever make in politics and is one of the rare politicians in this world who is sincere about his efforts in trying to make this a better country, simply out of the kindness of his heart. :)

sooneron
6/8/2006, 10:04 AM
For the sake of Jim's braggadocio, I hope this shot was taken during a inoportune moment for one of the kids in front.

I agree, it's a weird thing to say. He's taking a little too much cred.
I'd rather have a single dude in office- no distractions, no wife nagging him to come home....

I hope he was knocking wood, when he said this.

Or getting a hot carl!

C&CDean
6/8/2006, 10:07 AM
Actually, hes a very accepting person no matter who he meets and what hes doing. Like everyone else, he has his own beliefs. By saying that he has never been divorced, he is trying to send the message that he makes sound, well thought out choices. Many people are divorced for not doing just that. He doesnt agree with gayness because of religion.

BTW..Jim is very wealthy in his own right and has never had to pound a campaign sign to make a highly successful living. He has donated more money to charity than he will ever make in politics and is one of the rare politicians in this world who is sincere about his efforts in trying to make this a better country, simply out of the kindness of his heart. :)

No way mom. It says "R" next to his name. Everybody knows that only liverals are good people.

etouffee
6/8/2006, 10:23 AM
Again, why do you assume that his statement is an insult to you. The point is that when you're a public figure, it doesn't matter what you meant by what you said, it matters how people perceive what you said. Whether Imhofe meant to insult people or not, it is undeniable that many people were insulted. Indeed, any time you say you're proud NOT to belong to some group or have some quality, people are going to be insulted. Not sure why that's a hard concept for so many people here. Perhaps if some politician gave a speech and said "I'm proud to say that neither I nor anyone in my family is a Christian", the ensuing sh*tstorm would help to illustrate the point.

mdklatt
6/8/2006, 10:30 AM
I'm proud I wasn't raised in Oklahoma.

But don't take offense, y'all.

etouffee
6/8/2006, 10:31 AM
If I say I have never had a speeding ticket, and you have, are you insulted? Of course not. Getting a speeding ticket is a meaningless, trivial event. Marital status and sexual orientation are important factors that help to define who people are. Apples and oranges.


Somebody can't be proud of something because someone else who hasn't worked as hard or who hasn't been as fortunate could be offended?You can be as proud as you like. You should just be aware, when you're a public figure, that the things you say may have consequences, whether you were technically within your rights to say them or not.


We should stop handing out Olympic medals, or trophies of any kind. Think of the people who could be offended!!Another poor apples and oranges comparison. It's one thing to say "I'm proud to have won an olympic medal". It's something altogether different to say "I'm pround NOT to be one of those people who never won a medal".


Maybe he should have said, "we've all stayed married", thus focusing on the marriage, not the divorce. You would still take away the same message.Maybe, maybe not. Maybe as a politician, he should've been careful not to say ANYTHING that says "i'm proud that my family and i belong to a class that most other people don't", because whether or not it's true, it shows poor judgement. It's that whole "just because you can doesn't mean you should" thing.

C&CDean
6/8/2006, 10:36 AM
etouffee,

As a politician, he oughta say EVERYTHING that he believes/feels. You've obviously allowed the whole media/PC madness creep into your soul.

Wouldn't it be great if every politician spoke the truth? Wouldn't it be great if every politician shared their true opinions on issues? Wouldn't it be great if every politician told us how they really feel?

Hell yes it would. But we're so pussified that we want to be lied to. We want to be handled with kid's gloves. We want to hear only the rosey stories.

Meh.

etouffee
6/8/2006, 10:42 AM
etouffee,

As a politician, he oughta say EVERYTHING that he believes/feels. You've obviously allowed the whole media/PC madness creep into your soul.

Not true. I don't want to be lied to, and I'm no fan of political correctiness run amok. However, I do want my public officials to display some measure of tact and statesmanship. If every politician went around saying exactly how he felt about everything without reservation, our political system (and indeed our entire society) would be even more hostile, divisive, and nonproductive than it already is, if that's possible.

MamaMia
6/8/2006, 10:46 AM
No way mom. It says "R" next to his name. Everybody knows that only liverals are good people.Oh, I thought there were good and not so good in all parties. :O

Hamhock
6/8/2006, 10:48 AM
Another poor apples and oranges comparison. It's one thing to say "I'm proud to have won an olympic medal". It's something altogether different to say "I'm pround NOT to be one of those people who never won a medal".

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe as a politician, he should've been careful not to say ANYTHING that says "i'm proud that my family and i belong to a class that most other people don't", because whether or not it's true, it shows poor judgement. It's that whole "just because you can doesn't mean you should" thing.


How is it different? I would respect a candidate if I knew he had won an olympic medal. It takes years of hard work and dedication. Just because I haven't won one, I wouldn't be offended. Most, if not all, of the divorced people I know, hold a great deal of respect for people who are able to stay married for long periods of time.

So, you're saying a politician shouldn't say something about what he believes if it puts him in the minority?

Btw, you contradict yourself. On one hand, you say it is different to say it in the affirmative (I've won a gold medal), on the other hand you say it wouldn't change the perception because it puts him in a minority.

Hamhock
6/8/2006, 10:52 AM
However, I do want my public officials to display some measure of tact and statesmanship.


I guess that sums up the differences of our opinions. In my opinion, stating that his family has never experienced a divorce is not a total lack of tact and statesmanship.

Scott D
6/8/2006, 10:57 AM
Maybe, if you're trying to get people who believe in the bible to vote for you?

Oh...and please dont be too hard on Jim. Hes a long time family friend who has no problem with the fact that my sister is divorced and that her X husband was a gay Air Force pilot.

mom don't lie for him...it's really his x hubsand that was the gay air force pilot ;)

yermom
6/8/2006, 10:59 AM
I guess that sums up the differences of our opinions. In my opinion, stating that his family has never experienced a divorce is not a total lack of tact and statesmanship.

that is not really the offensive part, IMO

Hamhock
6/8/2006, 11:01 AM
that is not really the offensive part, IMO


Toufee is criticizing him for making a statement that puts him in a minority.


Shirley, not having a homosexual family member doesn't do that.?

C&CDean
6/8/2006, 11:01 AM
Not true. I don't want to be lied to, and I'm no fan of political correctiness run amok. However, I do want my public officials to display some measure of tact and statesmanship. If every politician went around saying exactly how he felt about everything without reservation, our political system (and indeed our entire society) would be even more hostile, divisive, and nonproductive than it already is, if that's possible.

Not true. The reason it's so "hostile, divisive, and non productive" is because everybody knows they're being lied to, and they're too busy trying to be "non-offensive." When people lie to you, you get ****ed. We've got a whole country full of ****ed off people because we've got a whole country full of pussified liars.

1stTimeCaller
6/8/2006, 11:03 AM
hot carl
creamed corn
dean delight

C&CDean
6/8/2006, 11:06 AM
If you even know what a hot carl is, you also know what semen tastes like.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
6/8/2006, 11:17 AM
Actually, hes a very accepting person no matter who he meets and what hes doing. Like everyone else, he has his own beliefs. By saying that he has never been divorced, he is trying to send the message that he makes sound, well thought out choices. Many people are divorced for not doing just that. He doesnt agree with gayness because of religion.

BTW..Jim is very wealthy in his own right and has never had to pound a campaign sign to make a highly successful living. He has donated more money to charity than he will ever make in politics and is one of the rare politicians in this world who is sincere about his efforts in trying to make this a better country, simply out of the kindness of his heart. :)Hey, he's got good political ideas and logic. He votes smart(good for the country) most of the time. He would get my vote if I was a constituent.

etouffee
6/8/2006, 11:18 AM
Toufee is criticizing him for making a statement that puts him in a minority. You miss my point. The statement in this case puts him in a minority (probably, not definitely on the gay fambly member thing), but that's not the essence of what I'm criticizing. I'm criticizing him for making a statement that says he's proud to NOT be something that a lot of other people-- whether a lot of other people puts him in the minority or not-- because it's going to insult and alienate his constituents and potential voters, and that's STUPID when you're a politician.

Suppose he makes a similar statement that DOESN'T place him in a minority, like "I'm proud that I'm not a Jew" or "I'm proud that no one in my family ever married a Mexican". Both statements may be true. Neither places him in a minority. He has every RIGHT to make either statement. But he'd be STUPID to say either of those things publicly, as a politician, because of the way such statements would be perceived. That's my point.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
6/8/2006, 11:21 AM
I'm proud I wasn't raised in Oklahoma.

But don't take offense, y'all.Haha.

ouflak
6/8/2006, 11:38 AM
I guess that sums up the differences of our opinions. In my opinion, stating that his family has never experienced a divorce is not a total lack of tact and statesmanship.

How do you think the many constituents Inhofe has, who have been divorced, feel about this kind of declaration? Better? Now that the guy they've voted for is basically implying that he is a better person than they are because they actually have had divorces in their family? Or perhaps they feel worse?

I think that's the point. I sort of equivalate (word?) this kind of statement with the demonization of single moms that took place during the late eighties/early nineties.

My mom divorced my dad after she had had enough of him beating his wife and his children. Does that mean Inhofe is a better person than my mom? Does that mean he is a better person than me, since I now have the stigma of having a divorce in my family? I think not. And I don't think I'm particularly interested in voting for somebody that feels that way.

Hamhock
6/8/2006, 11:43 AM
How do you think the many constituents Inhofe has, who have been divorced, feel about this kind of declaration? Better? Now that the guy they've voted for is basically implying that he is a better person than they are because they actually have had divorces in their family? Or perhaps they feel worse?

I think that's the point. I sort of equivalate (word?) this kind of statement with the demonization of single moms that took place during the late eighties/early nineties.

My mom divorced my dad after she had had enough of him beating his wife and his children. Does that mean Inhofe is a better person than my mom? Does that mean he is a better person than me, since I now have the stigma of having a divorce in my family? I think not. And I don't think I'm particularly interested in voting for somebody that feels that way.

Why does his being proud of not being divorced mean that he is better than someone who has been divorced?

Like I said earlier, most, if not all, divorced people I know, hold a high respect for people who were able to stay married for long periods of time.

etouffee
6/8/2006, 11:59 AM
Why does his being proud of not being divorced mean that he is better than someone who has been divorced? As I said previously, it's not what he meant, it's how it will be perceived. Not everyone is going to stop and analyze the statement like we have here. Quite a lot of people are going to hear "I'm really glad I'm not like YOU"... whether that's what he meant or not.

mdklatt
6/8/2006, 12:23 PM
Wouldn't it be great if every politician spoke the truth? Wouldn't it be great if every politician shared their true opinions on issues? Wouldn't it be great if every politician told us how they really feel?



Not if you're OklahomaTuba and the politician is Howard Dean. :D

C&CDean
6/8/2006, 12:39 PM
How do you think the many constituents Inhofe has, who have been divorced, feel about this kind of declaration? Better? Now that the guy they've voted for is basically implying that he is a better person than they are because they actually have had divorces in their family? Or perhaps they feel worse?

I think that's the point. I sort of equivalate (word?) this kind of statement with the demonization of single moms that took place during the late eighties/early nineties.

My mom divorced my dad after she had had enough of him beating his wife and his children. Does that mean Inhofe is a better person than my mom? Does that mean he is a better person than me, since I now have the stigma of having a divorce in my family? I think not. And I don't think I'm particularly interested in voting for somebody that feels that way.

Oh. So you were going to vote for him - until he said these things to make you feel all little and ****. Bullcrap.

I've been divorced. I like Inhofe. I think it's great he's managed to never get divorced. I think it's great he's fagless. I do not feel any worse for having been divorced. I don't feel he's superior in any way for having stayed married to the same woman for 47 years. I'm pretty much neutral, and I have trouble understanding why a couple of you guys are all jacked up about it. Unless it's just because you're a bleeding heart lib who hated him in the first place......

I think that's the ticket.

mdklatt
6/8/2006, 01:24 PM
However, I do want my public officials to display some measure of tact and statesmanship.

I'm glad Inhofe said it, I just think what he said was wrong (in tone, not fact). That gives me insight on where he stands, which helps me make a more informed voting decision.

mdklatt
6/8/2006, 01:25 PM
If you even know what a hot carl is, you also know what semen tastes like.

Does that mean you know what a hot carl is? :eek:


(Isn't that the place at the mall that sells soft pretzels?)

mdklatt
6/8/2006, 01:28 PM
If every politician went around saying exactly how he felt about everything without reservation...

...everyone would finally realize that they're all a bunch of *********s regardless of party affiliation, and people would finally focus on the candidates instead of the letters next to their name.

C&CDean
6/8/2006, 01:29 PM
Does that mean you know what a hot carl is? :eek:


(Isn't that the place at the mall that sells soft pretzels?)

I've never heard of one till 1TC brought it up. I wonder how he knows about all that kinda ****?

Fugue
6/8/2006, 01:31 PM
...everyone would finally realize that they're all a bunch of *********s regardless of party affiliation, and people would finally focus on the candidates instead of the letters next to their name.

agreed, I would like to know exactly what a politician feels/has to say so that after I vote for them, they don't flipflop once they get in power. If I could collectively kick Congress'/pres azzez right now I would.

TopDawg
6/8/2006, 01:41 PM
agreed, I would like to know exactly what a politician feels/has to say so that after I vote for them, they don't flipflop once they get in power. If I could collectively kick Congress'/pres azzez right now I would.

Why, whatever do you mean? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXoCn5Aw2Fo) :)

1stTimeCaller
6/8/2006, 01:42 PM
I've never heard of one till 1TC brought it up. I wonder how he knows about all that kinda ****?

Mrs.
Howzit.

mdklatt
6/8/2006, 01:43 PM
If I could collectively kick Congress'...azzez right now I would.

November 7

Gandalf_The_Grey
6/8/2006, 01:45 PM
By God, Am I the only one that saw the fact that there is all those white people and one little black girl haha Is it like Stephen Colbert, is she their black friend.... :P

Fugue
6/8/2006, 01:50 PM
November 7


if term limits for these folks is on the ballot, i'm there.:P

Howzit
6/8/2006, 01:54 PM
Mrs.
Howzit.

Way to deflect the fact that you are apparently the SO Hot Carl Officionado (SOHCO).

1stTimeCaller
6/8/2006, 01:57 PM
:D

mdklatt
6/8/2006, 02:08 PM
I finally just had to look up 'hot carl'.

OH MY GOD

1stTimeCaller
6/8/2006, 02:09 PM
that's what she said

Howzit
6/8/2006, 02:11 PM
I finally just had to look up 'hot carl'.

OH MY GOD

You could have just asked 1tc, he's SOHCO.

mdklatt
6/8/2006, 02:13 PM
You could have just asked 1tc

I didn't want him to think I was flirting.

royalfan5
6/8/2006, 02:17 PM
No gays and no divorces. What a boring family. My family has been much, much more entertaining than that. Honestly if your family is having fist fights, suing, defrauding, having extra-marital affairs, dealing drugs, burning down siblings homes, running black market tractor parts rings, and holding grudges in general what the hell do you talk about at family gatherings?

1stTimeCaller
6/8/2006, 02:18 PM
hot carls?

NormanPride
6/8/2006, 02:27 PM
This guy would never make it in Miami. Being in a scandal and going to jail is like a pre-requisite. They'd look at "No divorce and no homosexuals" like a black mark on his record. "Maybe with a few gays and a good old-fashioned, mob-affiliated crime I could vote for him..."

frankensooner
6/8/2006, 03:20 PM
I know 1tc likes to mark his territory, but this Hot Carl business is taking things a bit to far.


That is one thing I could have done without knowing. (about)

etouffee
6/8/2006, 03:22 PM
That is one thing I could have done, without knowing what it was called:P

NormanPride
6/8/2006, 03:23 PM
:dean: Don't knock it 'till you try it. :dean:


please don't hurt me...

soonerscuba
6/8/2006, 03:42 PM
Someone in that family has rocked the cleveland steamer.

C&CDean
6/8/2006, 03:45 PM
Someone in that family has rocked the cleveland steamer.

So, that's what you gay kids are calling it these days?

NormanPride
6/8/2006, 03:45 PM
So, that's what you gay kids are calling it these days?

What did you call it back when you did it?


;)

soonerscuba
6/8/2006, 03:46 PM
cleveland steamer is for everyone, it's inclusive, so republicans hate it.

picasso
6/8/2006, 10:10 PM
where is etoufee from again? dude sure is expending lots of time and energy about someone he knows nothing about. geez.

hurricane'bone
6/8/2006, 11:27 PM
Someone in that family has rocked the cleveland steamer.


Or the Alabama Hot Pocket

etouffee
6/9/2006, 06:06 AM
where is etoufee from again? dude sure is expending lots of time and energy about someone he knows nothing about. geez.Yeah, because unless you're like, from the same place, you can't possibly know anything about a person, especially a public figure who gets media coverage. It's a shame we don't have the internet and television and printed materials to let us gather information on people and things outside our immediate geographic regions... but maybe one day, right?

I only wish I could be as disciplined as you, and never join discussions about people and events outside my area. I'm sure you've never offerred an opinion about any athlete or sports team other than the one nearest you, right? Never said a word about a famous actor or musician, either. But most importantly, you never discuss politicians except your own local officials, or current events that didn't happen in your state. Cuz, after all, you know nothing about any of them. Right?

Oh, and incidentally, I haven't spent much time or energy discussing a person. I've spent it discussing something a person said, and whether is was wise for a public official to say such a thing. Geography has nothing to do with any of it. My positions would be identical if any elected official made those remarks, including my local representatives.

Anyway, thanks for trying out.

StoopTroup
6/9/2006, 06:25 AM
I would never go on an LSU Board and talk about one of their politicians. :D

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Sooner Born Sooner Bred
6/9/2006, 06:55 AM
Are you guys talking about the black child? One of his kids adopted her from Africa. He made a big deal about it in the last election.

picasso
6/9/2006, 08:30 AM
Yeah, because unless you're like, from the same place, you can't possibly know anything about a person, especially a public figure who gets media coverage. It's a shame we don't have the internet and television and printed materials to let us gather information on people and things outside our immediate geographic regions... but maybe one day, right?

I only wish I could be as disciplined as you, and never join discussions about people and events outside my area. I'm sure you've never offerred an opinion about any athlete or sports team other than the one nearest you, right? Never said a word about a famous actor or musician, either. But most importantly, you never discuss politicians except your own local officials, or current events that didn't happen in your state. Cuz, after all, you know nothing about any of them. Right?

Oh, and incidentally, I haven't spent much time or energy discussing a person. I've spent it discussing something a person said, and whether is was wise for a public official to say such a thing. Geography has nothing to do with any of it. My positions would be identical if any elected official made those remarks, including my local representatives.

Anyway, thanks for trying out.

sorry dude but I'm not going to read 3 paragraphs of blather. you stated earlier you don't know anything about the guy.

I know, I'll go over to an LSU bbs and post my opinion on Senator Joe Jim Bubba Etienne and make myself fell all better and stuff.

you come off being a lot more arrogant than the guy you're criticizing in this particular thread.
and I'm not trying anything out that you're offering.

etouffee
6/9/2006, 09:01 AM
sorry dude but I'm not going to read 3 paragraphs of blather. Instead I'm just going to post an ignorant reply without even knowing what I'm replying to, because that's such an incredibly intelligent thing to do. Fixed.

you stated earlier you don't know anything about the guy.I did? Where? Show me.


I know, I'll go over to an LSU bbs and post my opinion on Senator Joe Jim Bubba Etienne and make myself fell all better and stuff.If that's what floats your boat, knock yourself out, champ. I pwomise not to get my widdle undies all in a wad about it.


you come off being a lot more arrogant than the guy you're criticizing in this particular thread. And you come off as being a lot more of a thin skinned, reactionary blowhard who, by their own admission, posts insulting responses to posts without even reading them first, than the guy you're criticizing. Guess we're even.