OT: Tramel ripping the horsepigs on KREF

[King Crimson]

way to go Berry!

[OUGreg723]

WAHOOO!!

[Big Red Ron]

????

[olevetonahill]

????
ditto.

[Jello Biafra]

wha tha fugg is a horsepig again?

[GottaHavePride]

http://www.normantranscript.com/homepage/images_sizedimage_281014359/xl

[Sooner_Bob]

Traber, Gottlieb and Al ragged on them today too.

[Octavian]

those damn things are freaking embarrassing.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9845/mascot8vf.png (http://imageshack.us)

It wouldnt be any worse...

[Jello Biafra]

i get a felling like someone is staring at me when i see that pic.....


anyone else?


creepy like

[oumartin]

it could be worse. pistol pete

[The Consumate Showman]

I think, or I hope, that Joe C. was trying to get a mascot for the little kids at the games. If he didn't get them solely for that purpose...I have some serious questions for Kenny Mossman.......geeeeez those things are ghey!

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

We SURELY need to bring back Little Red. Kirk Kickingbird died, I know, but there has to be some young Indian guy who knows how to war dance!

[n8v_ndn]

We SURELY need to bring back Little Red. Kirk Kickingbird died, I know, but there has to be some young Indian guy who knows how to war dance!

Every time I consider this...I end up thinking, 'that made about as much sense as Washington's NFL team having a John Wayne look alike mascot on their sidelines'.

'Sooners' is to 'Little Red' as 'Volunteers' is to 'Chieftain' :texan:

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Every time I consider this...I end up thinking, 'that made about as much sense as Washington's NFL team having a John Wayne look alike mascot on their sidelines'.

'Sooners' is to 'Little Red' as 'Volunteers' is to 'Chieftain' :texan:Doesn't Oklahoma mean red man, or land of the red man?

[n8v_ndn]

Doesn't Oklahoma mean red man, or land of the red man?
Yup...so the 2 major universities in the state with the largest per capita Indian population are 'Land of the Red Man Sooners' and 'Land of the Red Man Cowboys', whereas Illinois' (a state with almost no Indian population) major university selected an Indian tribe for its mascot :)

'Illinois' combo of Illini & French for 'tribe or band of men'
'Illini' from the Illini for 'man' or 'men'

Illinois Fighting Illini...Band of Men Fighting Men :confused:

[Partial Qualifier]

I think, or I hope, that Joe C. was trying to get a mascot for the little kids at the games. If he didn't get them solely for that purpose...I have some serious questions for Kenny Mossman.......geeeeez those things are ghey!

I totally agree with Berry's caller who said it's got to be for the kids. He saw a bunch of 3-7 year old kids just entranced with the Horsepigs for the entire game.

From what experience I have with kids that age, expecting them to sit for 3.5 hours, no matter where you are, is usually unrealistic. Having something there that captivates them is probably a godsend for people who want/need to take their kids to games.

But I mean, is it really worth having a gay-***, embarrassing mascot?? Why do they have to be 'mascots' - we oughtta have a badass mascot AND the Horsepigs or something.

[Partial Qualifier]

Yup...so the 2 major universities in the state with the largest per capita Indian population

I thought Arizona was far & away the highest Native Indian per-capita state?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I totally agree with Berry's caller who said it's got to be for the kids. He saw a bunch of 3-7 year old kids just entranced with the Horsepigs for the entire game.

From what experience I have with kids that age, expecting them to sit for 3.5 hours, no matter where you are, is usually unrealistic. Having something there that captivates them is probably a godsend for people who want/need to take their kids to games.

But I mean, is it really worth having a gay-***, embarrassing mascot?? Why do they have to be 'mascots' - we oughtta have a badass mascot AND the Horsepigs or something.Great idea! Keep the horsepigs for the kids. Bring on an Indian warrior or such to stick it to the PC crowd.

[IronSooner]

From what experience I have with kids that age, expecting them to sit for 3.5 hours, no matter where you are, is usually unrealistic. Having something there that captivates them is probably a godsend for people who want/need to take their kids to games.

Circus clowns are captivating to kids too, but I'd rather not have them at our games either. Maybe just bring a book or anymore, a portable dvd or something? Can't stop people from having kids or bringing them to games, but that shouldn't force us to sissy up or mascot.

[Jimminy Crimson]

From what experience I have with kids that age, expecting them to sit for 3.5 hours, no matter where you are, is usually unrealistic. Having something there that captivates them is probably a godsend for people who want/need to take their kids to games.

If the chitlins arent interested in the football, they should stay at home with a sitter/non-sportsfan mom. :texan:

[Big Red Ron]

I thought Arizona was far & away the highest Native Indian per-capita state?Eh, no. Unless you are counting the ancient Inca/Mayans that are ther illegally!

[Big Red Ron]

1 CALIFORNIA 313,642 286,611 27,031 9.4 0.9 16
2 OKLAHOMA 262,581 257,794 4,787 1.9 7.8 4
3 ARIZONA 261,168 214,427 46,741 21.8 5.5 6
4 NEW MEXICO 165,944 137,625 28,319 20.6 9.5 2
5 WASHINGTON 104,819 87,259 17,560 20.1 1.8 9
6 ALASKA 101,352 86,252 15,100 17.5 16.4 1
7 NORTH CAROLINA 99,277 80,825 18,452 22.8 1.3 14
8 TEXAS 97,412 72,343 25,069 34.7 0.5 25
9 NEW YORK 76,755 66,337 10,418 15.7 0.4 28

[Total_Ignorance_Hour]

Eh, no. Unless you are counting the ancient Inca/Mayans that are ther illegally!

I think you mean Aztec/Mayans. Not too many South Americans living in Arizona.

[Getem]

1 CALIFORNIA 313,642 286,611 27,031 9.4 0.9 16
2 OKLAHOMA 262,581 257,794 4,787 1.9 7.8 4
3 ARIZONA 261,168 214,427 46,741 21.8 5.5 6
4 NEW MEXICO 165,944 137,625 28,319 20.6 9.5 2
5 WASHINGTON 104,819 87,259 17,560 20.1 1.8 9
6 ALASKA 101,352 86,252 15,100 17.5 16.4 1
7 NORTH CAROLINA 99,277 80,825 18,452 22.8 1.3 14
8 TEXAS 97,412 72,343 25,069 34.7 0.5 25
9 NEW YORK 76,755 66,337 10,418 15.7 0.4 28

Do we need to retrain our Injuns in the art of procreation?

[n8v_ndn]

I thought Arizona was far & away the highest Native Indian per-capita state?
That's kinda tricky...I grew up in the 4 Corners and have a lot of family on the Navajo rez; we always thought AZ had to have that title :)

Turns out in in 90's, tribes around the country began lowering blood quantum qualifications--suddenly those that weren't recognized as Indian became Indian. The Cherokee pop. in OK went from being ~3/4 the Navajo's to practically the same. This practice, along with more Natives moving to urban areas, has caused shifts in populations per state. I'm sure seeking federal/state recognition as a tribe (motivated by casino/bingo business opportunities) has also motivated growth in tribal numbers as well.


Do we need to retrain our Injuns in the art of procreation?
I keep telling my (first?) wife...we need to bring back some of the old ways, like having more than one wife, for the sake of future generations :D

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I keep telling my (first?) wife...we need to bring back some of the old ways, like having more than one wife, for the sake of future generations :DWhat, you guys used to be Mormons!?...NO WAY!

[73Easting]

You know I hate the Florida Criminoles, but their horse-ridin' mascot is teh pwn. We should have something like that.

I'm Cherokee and I think it's cool as hell. We could use the horsepigs under the stands for the kids :)

[47straight]

I know what the kids would like - the same thing I liked when I was a kid: Top Dawg.

[Switzer-lander]

Why isn't the Schooner with real horses good enough for these children who must be entertained?

Maybe they could move the horsepigs and whatever mascot shows up from the other school to a petting zoo somewhere under the stands.

Admittedly, "petting zoo" may not be the best thing to call it.

[william_brasky]

I'm sick of hearing "they're for the kids."

Eff the kids!!! They don't pay for tickets.

When I was a kid and was allowed to go to games I had to shut up and watch the game.

Quit spoiling the kids America.

[Boomer_Sooner_sax]

If the chitlins arent interested in the football, they should stay at home with a sitter/non-sportsfan mom. :texan:

Amen...free up some seats for people who want to be there!

[bonkuba]

Sorry...but the "Eff the Kids" comment is about the stupidest comment I have ever heard.....well other than TX has any chance of beating OU next year....HAHA!

I pay for our season tickets so they (kids) have as much right to be there as anyone else. Now, keep in mind if he is restless, etc I will take him down for a while to run around.

When I came to the games when I was a kid it made me fall in love with OU football. My little 3-year old loves to watch and say "Touchdown Oklahoma!!".

I know some of you might flame me for this.....but eh.:D

One more thing....just saw a note on someone stating that we should free up the seats for people who really want to be there.....almost as intelligent as the first post I mentioned above. If you want to be there.....pay to be there......dont gripe and whine about it.....pay to be there.

That is all.......:rolleyes:

[Boomer_Sooner_sax]

Sorry...but the "Eff the Kids" comment is about the stupidest comment I have ever heard.....well other than TX has any chance of beating OU next year....HAHA!

I pay for our season tickets so they (kids) have as much right to be there as anyone else. Now, keep in mind if he is restless, etc I will take him down for a while to run around.

When I came to the games when I was a kid it made me fall in love with OU football. My little 3-year old loves to watch and say "Touchdown Oklahoma!!".

I know some of you might flame me for this.....but eh.:D

One more thing....just saw a note on someone stating that we should free up the seats for people who really want to be there.....almost as intelligent as the first post I mentioned above. If you want to be there.....pay to be there......dont gripe and whine about it.....pay to be there.

That is all.......:rolleyes:

I didn't say anthing about money. I do pay to be there...you just can't defy the laws of physics and put 100,000 people in a stadium that holds 84,000. I am just sayin'.

[bonkuba]

I didn't say anthing about money. I do pay to be there...you just can't defy the laws of physics and put 100,000 people in a stadium that holds 84,000. I am just sayin'.


No problem......didn't mean to get off on the wrong foot. Understand what you are saying.

[melbitoast]

Despite all the side tangent bickering...those stupid things still need to go. Everytime I see those things during football games or Top Dawg during BB games, I hang my head. I understand the idea of horses for Boomer and Sooner and a dog for our first mascot, but no one really knows about the latter and the first ones just look silly on the sidelines.
Reminds of that commercial where the kangaroo guy steals the job of the Philadelphia Eagles mascot.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Stoops had his worst season with the ponies....I am just saying ;)

[william_brasky]

Stoops had his worst season with the ponies....I am just saying ;)

actually year 1 was. :twinkies:

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Despite all the side tangent bickering...those stupid things still need to go. Everytime I see those things during football games or Top Dawg during BB games, I hang my head. I understand the idea of horses for Boomer and Sooner and a dog for our first mascot, but no one really knows about the latter and the first ones just look silly on the sidelines.
Reminds of that commercial where the kangaroo guy steals the job of the Philadelphia Eagles mascot.Dittos. I remember back in the '80's at some OU wrestling matches I saw, there was Top Dawg, or Underdog, or whatever that was. Didn't like it at all...but better than the horsepigs.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Actually year 1 was better just because it was somewhat unexpected, THis last year was alot worse than I expected but funnily it may have been his best coaching job

[bri]

I wonder how much longer Joe C is gonna get to coast off the Stoops hire. All he's done since then is pretty much systematically crap on the fanbase every chance he gets.

It's only a matter of time before we're banned from clapping at the games, because it makes the other team feel bad when OU scores and 84,000 people point it out...

[stoopified]

Yup...so the 2 major universities in the state with the largest per capita Indian population are 'Land of the Red Man Sooners' and 'Land of the Red Man Cowboys', whereas Illinois' (a state with almost no Indian population) major university selected an Indian tribe for its mascot :)

'Illinois' combo of Illini & French for 'tribe or band of men'
'Illini' from the Illini for 'man' or 'men'

Illinois Fighting Illini...Band of Men Fighting Men :confused:
Band of men fighting men?Shouldn't that be the University of San Fransisco? Nah on second tought USF would be band of men loving men.

[Scott D]

Yup...so the 2 major universities in the state with the largest per capita Indian population are 'Land of the Red Man Sooners' and 'Land of the Red Man Cowboys', whereas Illinois' (a state with almost no Indian population) major university selected an Indian tribe for its mascot :)

'Illinois' combo of Illini & French for 'tribe or band of men'
'Illini' from the Illini for 'man' or 'men'

Illinois Fighting Illini...Band of Men Fighting Men :confused:

Weren't the Illini a 'confederation' of multiple tribes that doesn't exactly exist anymore, hence why Illinois is getting a raw deal from the NCAA as compared to Florida State who can actually get 'approval' from the Florida Seminoles despite disapproval by the Oklahoma Seminoles?

[OUstud]

1. Bring back Top Dawg
2. We already have real ponies at football games, so why do we need fake ones too that look like shiite?

[birddog]

can someone please explain this whole "castiglione is taking the fun out of games" talk? i only get to go to 1 game a year and no one's really elaborated for me.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

I think they are talking about the playing the other team's fight song, not allowing over rowdiness at baseball games, the use of the television thing(went blank on it's name :P) during basketball games that kills the crowd momentum and doesn't allow the band to do their jobs.

[soonerloyal]

Informal polls of the student and Alum OU Native Americans done in the past have said time and again that the majority wouldn't be offended with a NA Mascot. I think it's just the Admins being all wussy and PC.

[Big Red Ron]

Informal polls of the student and Alum OU Native Americans done in the past have said time and again that the majority wouldn't be offended with a NA Mascot. I think it's just the Admins being all wussy and PC.Read David Boren being a PC whore.

[bri]

Yeah, seeing as how the team is named after the people who snuck in early and took this land from the native peoples who were forced to relocate here in the first place, I don't see that a dancing caracature can be THAT much more hurtful. ;)

[Switzer-lander]

Three things I'm curious about:

1. Who's inside those costumes?

2. What costume designs were rejected in favor of the one that was selected?

3. At about what age does the average child realize that these are not real animals and how many children below that age attend games, whether paying for admission or not?

Just curious.

[CrimsonandCreamForever]

Three things I'm curious about:

Who's inside those costumes?

Just curious.
Some of the cheer/spirit people. I ran into one of them in New Orleans back before thegamenooneshallspeakofagainnumberone, and he decided to tell me about them for some reason, before they went public. He seemed really excited about it, apparently they were on the cutting edge of mascot technology at the time. :rolleyes:

[UberSooner]

I say we need a giant head Switzer on the sidelines with the polyester pants and the open golf shirt. Kinda like the cornholer boy only kewl and un-ghey. He could hold up signs that read "OSKI!" and such and hand out free beer to the kids just like he was really baby sittin em.:D

[GottaHavePride]

can someone please explain this whole "castiglione is taking the fun out of games" talk? i only get to go to 1 game a year and no one's really elaborated for me.

At football and basketball games now timeouts are filled with useless crap selling out to sponsors that totally kills any crowd involvement that might be going on at the time. Then there's playing the other team's fight song for them, prohibiting us from playing even something as innocuous as "Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Cowboys", taking any and all signs away from fans even if they're witty, funny, and clean of foul language, harping on the fans to "treat opposing teams with respect" rather than getting a good hate on for gameday, so on and so forth.

[Switzer-lander]

I would be interested in hiring out the giant Switzer head for a party.

I would also be interested in seeing the giant Switzer head driving a wagon pulled by the horsepigs, either at a party or somewhere else.

[OUstud]

At football and basketball games now timeouts are filled with useless crap selling out to sponsors that totally kills any crowd involvement that might be going on at the time. Then there's playing the other team's fight song for them, prohibiting us from playing even something as innocuous as "Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Cowboys", taking any and all signs away from fans even if they're witty, funny, and clean of foul language, harping on the fans to "treat opposing teams with respect" rather than getting a good hate on for gameday, so on and so forth.

Why do they insist on doing this...we should be an obnoxious snakepit that everyone fears...hard to do that when you have a damn Kid Captain of the Game.