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swardboy
5/15/2006, 12:15 PM
Not only did he over-achieve at 5-9, you never heard anything but positives about him...Here's to you Doug:

Flutie retires from pro football By HOWARD ULMAN, AP Sports Writer
May 15, 2006
AP - May 15, 12:11 pm EDT
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FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP) -- Doug Flutie retired Monday, ending a 21-year career in which the undersized Heisman Trophy winner threw one of college football's most famous passes and went on to play a dozen seasons in the NFL.
The decision by the 43-year-old Flutie was announced by the New England Patriots (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nwe/), for whom he played five games last season.
Flutie spent 12 seasons in the NFL and also played in the USFL and the Canadian Football League. He won the CFL's Most Outstanding Player award six times and the league's Grey Cup championship three times.
Flutie finishes with 14,715 passing yards and 86 touchdowns in the NFL, spending most of his time as a backup. Last season, he attempted just 10 passes and converted the league's first drop kick for an extra point since the 1941 NFL title game.
If that ends up being my last play, it wouldn't be bad," Flutie said after the game, a mostly meaningless regular season-ending loss to the Miami Dolphins (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/mia/).
Flutie said this month he had spoken to many teams, as well as to networks about broadcasting.
"I still have that passion but you've got to make that decision if you can stay healthy through the year," he said at an appearance at a Boston high school, where he demonstrated drop kicks.
A resident of nearby Natick, Flutie won the 1984 Heisman Trophy at Boston College after connecting with Gerard Phelan on a desperation 48-yard touchdown pass to beat Miami as time expired. His signature play, it remains one of the most memorable in the sport.
Flutie left BC as the school's passing leader with 10,579 yards, and he remains a hero on campus; his Heisman is the centerpiece of the school's new Hall of Fame. He was drafted by the Los Angeles Rams in the 11th round in 1985 but chose to play for the USFL's New Jersey Generals, owned by Donald Trump.
When that league failed, he joined the NFL, but his freewheeling style and short stature -- the Patriots generously listed him at 5-foot-10 -- were a poor fit for its conservative schemes. He played five games for Chicago the next two seasons and 17 for New England from 1987-89.
Only in the CFL, with its wide-open game, did he truly find success, throwing for 41,355 yards and 270 touchdowns in eight seasons with British Columbia, Calgary and Toronto.
He joined Buffalo in 1998 and played more regularly -- 39 games over three years. He started all 16 games for San Diego in 2001 then spent the next three years as backup to Drew Brees (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5479/).
Last April, he signed with the hometown Patriots for a second time and played sparingly, making his biggest splash on special teams with his drop kick.
"I think Doug deserves it," Patriots coach Bill Belichick said, sensing that the play would be Flutie's football finale. "He is a guy that adds a lot to this game of football, has added a lot through his great career -- running, passing and now kicking."
jacru
5/15/2006, 12:22 PM
I'll always love him for beating Miami U.
BigRedJed
5/15/2006, 12:35 PM
http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/rvp/pubaf/chronicle/v13/n18/flutie.jpg
yermom
5/15/2006, 12:50 PM
is he still going to make Flutie Flakes?
batonrougesooner
5/15/2006, 06:09 PM
What a great career.

For persective, I think Brett Favre was 15 years old when Flutie entered pro football.
Jimminy Crimson
5/15/2006, 06:25 PM
Kudos to Doug!
devOUt
5/15/2006, 06:28 PM
When did he turn 65?
Big Red Ron
5/15/2006, 06:31 PM
Flutie = most beloved career backup evar!
Desert Sapper
5/16/2006, 02:50 AM
I think Flutie got shafted by too many NFL types, because he wasn't 'the right height' or he didn't have 'a cannon'. That dude was a winner, bottom line. If they had let him play more, some of the sorry POS teams he went to would have been winners too. I remember him doing pretty well when he actually played, but being replaced by somebody that was taller with a 'better arm'. But what's better than throwing a catchable pass and doing everything you can to win? Eh, to each his own. Kudos for the Miracle in Meeahmee.
Sooner95
5/16/2006, 07:26 AM
Heard some arguments about Flutie making HOF? What do you guys think?
Boomer.....
5/16/2006, 07:28 AM
He wont make the HOF.
Sooner in Tampa
5/16/2006, 08:39 AM
No way in hell Flutie gets into the HOF...unless he buys a ticket. He was a very good backup, but certainly not HOF material.
Big Red Ron
5/16/2006, 12:59 PM
Heard some arguments about Flutie making HOF? What do you guys think?maybe in canada's. maybe.
sooneron
5/16/2006, 01:14 PM
The coolest thing is his last play as a pro.
OU_Sooners75
5/16/2006, 01:15 PM
Not trying to hate on Flutie. But outside of Canada, what was it that he did in the NFL to make his retirement such a big deal?

He most Likely will not be in the HOF, since it is about what a player did in the NFL.

I think he was a heck of a player, but he did his best in the ranks of the CFL, not the NFL.
sooneron
5/16/2006, 01:19 PM
Not trying to hate on Flutie. But outside of Canada, what was it that he did in the NFL to make his retirement such a big deal?

He most Likely will not be in the HOF, since it is about what a player did in the NFL.

I think he was a heck of a player, but he did his best in the ranks of the CFL, not the NFL.
I think it's what he represented, not what he did. Rudy-like. He was an underdog and he played some good games. I still don't know why Phillips played friggin R Johnson in the Music city miracle game!
NormanPride
5/16/2006, 01:33 PM
See, he never really did anything spectacular. He took over a few teams when a starter went out and made them fun to watch. He is a born winner and perfectly embodies what the NFL has never been good at doing: Putting winners above talent.

Flutie could have taken a number of teams to the playoffs and maybe won the big one if he had been given the chance.
snp
5/16/2006, 02:14 PM
Heard some arguments about Flutie making HOF? What do you guys think?

I got some land to sell to you.


G GS Att Comp Pct Yards YPA Lg TD Int Rate
92 66 2151 1177 54.7 14715 6.84 84 86 68 76.3

Unless you think Brad Johson is equal to Brett Farve.

130 108 3798 2350 61.9 25798 6.79 82 155 102 84.4
King Crimson
5/16/2006, 02:15 PM
sweet mullet.
HoserSooner
5/16/2006, 03:29 PM
maybe in canada's. maybe.

I don't think he qualifies, not being born in the US. ;)

I saw an article on ESPN where the guy was saying that the HOF is for pro football, not exclusively the NFL. If it is the PRO Football Hall Of Fame, then he's a lock.

If it is the NFL Hall Of Fame, then he has as much of a chance as Bosworth does of getting in.
snp
5/16/2006, 03:57 PM
I saw an article on ESPN where the guy was saying that the HOF is for pro football, not exclusively the NFL. If it is the PRO Football Hall Of Fame, then he's a lock.

If it is the NFL Hall Of Fame, then he has as much of a chance as Bosworth does of getting in.

The reason why it's the PRO football HOF and not the NFL so people like Jim Thorpe are still allowed in before there was an NFL.

It's not designed to allow people to backdoor their way into it. Flutie is not HOF material.

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/positions.html

Go look at the list of modern QBs and tell me ONE QB that Flutie is better than. You're not going to find one.

He was only a starter 4 years in his career and only threw for 14,000 yards for crying out loud.

Stop the Flutie HOF talk. HULKSMASH RAAAAARRRRGH
TUSooner
5/16/2006, 04:25 PM
I'll always love him for beating Miami U.
AMEN !!



*Even though there are many other reasons to like the guy.
HoserSooner
5/16/2006, 11:56 PM
The reason why it's the PRO football HOF and not the NFL so people like Jim Thorpe are still allowed in before there was an NFL.

It's not designed to allow people to backdoor their way into it. Flutie is not HOF material.

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/positions.html

Go look at the list of modern QBs and tell me ONE QB that Flutie is better than. You're not going to find one.

He was only a starter 4 years in his career and only threw for 14,000 yards for crying out loud.

Stop the Flutie HOF talk. HULKSMASH RAAAAARRRRGH

Hockey Hall Of Fame inducts members that never played in the NHL, so a precendent has been set in the pro leagues.

I'm not saying that he should or shouldn't be, but you can't ignore what he did in the three professional leagues that he played in.

(Warren Moon accumulated a bunch of his yards in the CFL, and without them, would not be getting in)
Big Red Ron
5/17/2006, 12:52 AM
Hockey Hall Of Fame inducts members that never played in the NHL, so a precendent has been set in the pro leagues.

I'm not saying that he should or shouldn't be, but you can't ignore what he did in the three professional leagues that he played in.

(Warren Moon accumulated a bunch of his yards in the CFL, and without them, would not be getting in)Hate to nitpick but Warren Moon was one of the best QB's of his era. His case to get in to the HOF without CFL numbers could have gotten him in. Flutie, not so much.
HoserSooner
5/17/2006, 07:52 AM
Hate to nitpick but Warren Moon was one of the best QB's of his era. His case to get in to the HOF without CFL numbers could have gotten him in. Flutie, not so much.

OK, I'll buy that.

(I didn't see his numbers before my previous post).
snp
5/17/2006, 10:51 AM
Hockey Hall Of Fame inducts members that never played in the NHL, so a precendent has been set in the pro leagues.

I'm not saying that he should or shouldn't be, but you can't ignore what he did in the three professional leagues that he played in.



Three? I didn't know BC paid him that much ;)

But it still doesn't hold much water. Sure, he tore it up in the CFL but then he did nothing in the NFL. Seriously, he had an incredibly mediocre career. I CAN ignore his CFL stats when it's easy to see they don't reflect on his NFL days.
HoserSooner
5/17/2006, 12:49 PM
Three? I didn't know BC paid him that much ;)

But it still doesn't hold much water. Sure, he tore it up in the CFL but then he did nothing in the NFL. Seriously, he had an incredibly mediocre career. I CAN ignore his CFL stats when it's easy to see they don't reflect on his NFL days.

He originally went to the USFL I believe.

I understand the arguement against. Do they then allow players from the Arena League and NFL Europe who put up big numbers in? I can see both sides in this situation.

His CFL numbers were huge, but in the CFL, 400 yard passing yards per game is quite common, and the rules are significantly different.
AllAboutThe'O'
5/17/2006, 04:35 PM
I think it's what he represented, not what he did. Rudy-like. He was an underdog and he played some good games. I still don't know why Phillips played friggin R Johnson in the Music city miracle game!
Rob Johnson, yet another SUC quarterback that really never lived up to the hype.
And if Wade Phillips ever somehow lucks his way into another NFL head coaching job, that's the day I stop following the NFL. To paraphrase Bobby Knight when he was interviewed by Jeremy (son of Dick) Schaap, "You've got a long way to go to be as good as your father."
Always been a Flutie fan, too bad he had to end his career with the Patriots.
jacru
5/17/2006, 10:23 PM
I saw an article on ESPN where the guy was saying that the HOF is for pro football, not exclusively the NFL. If it is the PRO Football Hall Of Fame, then he's a lock.

If it is the NFL Hall Of Fame, then he has as much of a chance as Bosworth does of getting in.
It is the PRO FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME but it is the American game not the Canadian game.
Doug was not like Warren Moon who had a great CFL career and then a great NFL career too. Flutie may end up as part of a side exhibit (maybe for the drop kick) but, He will not be inducted.