OU willing to switch sides at Cotton Bowl

[colleyvillesooner]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/050506dnsposherrington.cf0ed0e.html


Deal only delays the inevitable
If UT were committed to OU, it wouldn't be flirting with Arkansas



11:31 PM CDT on Thursday, May 4, 2006


Any prayers of preserving the state's greatest annual sporting event won't be answered by the deal announced Thursday or a cheap makeover of the Cotton Bowl.

But this just might do it: What if Oklahoma continued to play its home games against Texas in the Cotton Bowl as a recruiting tool, and what if it only allowed the visitors the standard issue of a few thousand tickets?

No more crowd split down the middle? Outnumbered 30-to-1 in your own state?

Do you remember the Alamo?

The odds of it happening again are better, or maybe it's worse, than you might think.

The preceding scenario is one of several being discussed in a story as complicated as your kid's calculus.

Could you see the Sooners playing TCU or SMU in the Cotton Bowl during the State Fair every other year?

Could you imagine Texas playing Arkansas in Arlington on the same weekend, just to stick it to OU?

Could you envision Dallas' New Year's Day bowl in JerryWorld, too?

Bottom line: The Cotton Bowl's much-debated problems run deeper than cramped seats, bad toilets and bruised egos.

In a drama short on heroes, DeLoss Dodds doesn't appreciate being cast as the heavy. Texas isn't the only one thinking of bolting the Cotton Bowl. The namesake New Year's Day game is in the last year of a three-year agreement with the city. The Cotton Bowl board is already considering options.

If it wants to get into the BCS championship rotation, a city without palm trees and beaches and a guarantee of at least 72 degrees has to offer a stadium with a roof.

But even if the New Year's Day game moves to Arlington, it won't hurt as much as Texas leaving Dallas, financially or otherwise. Dodds likes tradition as much as anyone. He doesn't want to be remembered as the man who killed the best sporting event in Texas.

So what keeps Texas from a long-term commitment to the Cotton Bowl?

Maybe you noticed it's a dump. Even a $50 million makeover is not likely to help much, and that's if the mayor can still sell it to Dallas voters.

But a lack of amenities is not all that has Texas riled. Believe it or not, Texas is also ticked that Oklahoma holds the side of the field around the tunnel.

If this means nothing to you, then you've probably never had to run through that gauntlet.

Good news: Oklahoma officials indicate they might be willing to flip sides of the field.

Bad news: Gaining tunnel rights might not be enough for Texas, either.

It's economics. Texas wants to move the game to Austin because of the money it'll make after the stadium expansion at home. Tickets to OU games would guarantee sales in seats and suites.

Still, UT officials are aware of their fans' love affair with the Texas-OU game in Dallas. And that's why they're offering an alternative.

Question: Why do you think UT resumed its rivalry with Arkansas?

Answer: If you eventually move it to Arlington, you get an emotional game sure to draw well.

Question: And if you move it to the same weekend OU plays someone else in the Cotton Bowl?

Answer: You steal OU's thunder in Texas.

And you thought the rivalry was ugly on the field. The official position of Kevin Weiberg, Big 12 commissioner, is that he's excited about Texas resuming its series with Arkansas. As a matter of fact, he thinks Big 12 members should schedule more SEC teams, which would help the league's TV package and strength of schedule.

But Weiberg's not so wild about his schools giving up home games for neutral sites.

Unless, of course, it's the second Saturday of October in the Cotton Bowl, and it's Texas-OU.

"In my opinion," Weiberg said, "it's one of the great spectacles in college football."

Of course it is. But for some it's not enough anymore, not with so much riding on it besides money or pride.

The Longhorns also have a vested interest in their recruiting base. So does OU. Coincidentally, it happens to be the same one, and Texas resents the intrusion.

The Sooners like playing in Texas because that's where the recruits are. A stadium half-crimson, half-burnt orange makes both sides seem equal to impressionable young men, at least until they check the scoreboard.

But what if battle lines aren't drawn down the middle of the old stadium? What if a recruit looks around and sees not crowded concourses and cramped quarters but a roiling sea of crimson?

Picture that, Texas, and maybe we'll get a deal done yet.



:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[SeattleOUstudent]

wont happen. We get the tunnel because we play in their damn state.

[Big Red Ron]

This whole thing is stupid. Do they really think that ut-arky would outdraw OU-aTm at the fair?

Sounds like a buch of little pee pee's are running things in Austin these days. Maybe they should ask DKR what he thinks about the game in Dallas.

[Phil]

By God, if they screw up the greatest weekend in college football by forcing a home and home, I think we should absolutely play our home game against them every other year in the CB. 5K Tejanos and 70K Sooners in the CB every other year? That would be so delicious as to defy description.

[SoonersEnFuego]

This is sooo maddening. Never give up the tunnel. Never give up the cotton bowl. I'm going to go punch an old lady in the mouth.

[Big Red Ron]

Who cares, ut had them put up curtains last year, so after 75 years or so, the tunnel didn't mean squat. If they keep the curtain who cares?

[mrowl]

Who cares, ut had them put up curtains last year, so after 75 years or so, the tunnel didn't mean squat. If they keep the curtain who cares?

that was maybe the gayest thing Mack has done.

[toast]

Switching sides is something the :texan: are pretty familiar with.

[Big Red Ron]

that was maybe the gayest thing Mack has done.Hook 'em

[usmc-sooner]

is there nothing a group of texans can't screw up.

I bet if Dodds was alive back then he tried to renogiate the Alamo, you know switch sides with the winners as in Mexico.

[yermom]

This is sooo maddening. Never give up the tunnel. Never give up the cotton bowl. I'm going to go punch an old lady in the mouth.

i'd say it would be a small price to pay to keep the game in Dallas

it would still suck though

[tnobis60]

You people think that all Texas fans want this. That we're okay with any of this. Any Texas fan who is not a billionaire donor, does not want anything changed. I don't care if the Cotton Bowl is crappy, outdated, or seats only x amount of people. It is tradition. That is final.

I want to play OU every year in the Cotton Bowl. I want to get sh*t-faced, eat a corney dog, and yell profanity at the crimson and white. That is the beginning of October, and also will be. And if Dodds ruins that for me, he will become satan in my eyes, and about 99% of all Texas fans. The other 1%, consisting of rich old alums will be happy, that is it.

I don't want to trade sides. I don't want to move it to Jerry World. I don't want it to change dates.

I want my Red River SHOOTOUT. (the sponsors can call it rivalry all they want but OU and UT fans both know it is called a shootout because we really just want to murder each other).

So please, you may talk trash about Dodds all you want, and the big whig donors who are making Dodds do this, but don't mistake the UT students, fans, poor alums as people who want any part of this change.

[freshchris05]

Texas is thinking of anyway to get out of it... Next they'll want flag football... And touch... And the ultimately soccer...


I say dont change a thing and stay firm like viagra...

[yermom]

You people think that all Texas fans want this. That we're okay with any of this. Any Texas fan who is not a billionaire donor, does not want anything changed. I don't care if the Cotton Bowl is crappy, outdated, or seats only x amount of people. It is tradition. That is final.

I want to play OU every year in the Cotton Bowl. I want to get sh*t-faced, eat a corney dog, and yell profanity at the crimson and white. That is the beginning of October, and also will be. And if Dodds ruins that for me, he will become satan in my eyes, and about 99% of all Texas fans. The other 1%, consisting of rich old alums will be happy, that is it.

I don't want to trade sides. I don't want to move it to Jerry World. I don't want it to change dates.

I want my Red River SHOOTOUT. (the sponsors can call it rivalry all they want but OU and UT fans both know it is called a shootout because we really just want to murder each other).

So please, you may talk trash about Dodds all you want, and the big whig donors who are making Dodds do this, but don't mistake the UT students, fans, poor alums as people who want any part of this change.


i've heard more Sooner fans than wh0rns that want to move it :rolleyes:

[Taxman71]

The whorn sissiness is at all time high right now. First, they quit letting people see the players enter/leaver the lockerrooms through the fence and now the tunnell is shielded. Do you think OU requested any of that? No, it is pure whorn p***y moves led by Roscoe Brown. That program has lost its last shred of respect and masculinity.

I have no problem with moving the game to Jerryworld if OU gets as much say-so as the whorns on these issues. Right now, the whorns have carte blanche with every request to shield them from the evil invaders from the north.

[Taxman71]

i've heard more Sooner fans than wh0rns that want to move it :rolleyes:

Those are the Sooner fans who whine about not getting to go to the game due to work, money, cramps, etc. and should be ignored. They do NOT represent more than a tiny percentage of fans.

[colleyvillesooner]

that was maybe the gayest thing Mack has done.

Epitome of gheyness:
http://colleyvillesooner.com/OUTEXAS05/gheyness.jpg

[mrowl]

I am sending that pic to BAD radio for an official ruling.

[colleyvillesooner]

I am sending that pic to BAD radio for an official ruling.

It might be classified more as "Being a whiny bitch and getting your way." :D

[KyleUT]

Those curtains are kinda funny - I didnt' notice them last year, nor had i seen a picture before. I don't think i could get my head around sitting on 'your' side of the CB -- would freak me out the entire game...sure was a lot of orange over there this year, though. So maybe it wouldn't be so bad.

[TexasLidig8r]

Dang.. you f'in' hillbillies would whine about a toenail being an 1/8 inch too long on Jennifer Aniston!

[Rock Hard Corn Frog]

Big Buckin' Chicken, :mack: is big and :mack: issss chicken.

[Half a Hundred]

Epitome of gheyness:
http://colleyvillesooner.com/OUTEXAS05/gheyness.jpg

If that is there this year, I want seats at the top of the tunnel so I can call every single Hook 'em player and especially :mack: what f****** c***s they are, among my less offensive phrases.

I really don't think they know what they are getting themselves into here. If this went though, I'd start listening to those who talk about bolting the Big 12 every time we seem to get screwed over. Hell, I'm listening even now.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Big Red Ron]

We could move to the Mountain West Conference and make it a real conference over night.

just sayin'

[freshchris05]

Epitome of gheyness:
http://colleyvillesooner.com/OUTEXAS05/gheyness.jpg




and mack knows ghey

http://myspace-498.vo.llnwd.net/00622/89/47/622707498_l.jpg

[colleyvillesooner]

Dang.. you f'in' hillbillies would whine about a toenail being an 1/8 inch too long on Jennifer Aniston!

Even you know that is crap. Like we can't just throw **** over the top :D

[Big Red Ron]

Even you know that is crap. Like we can't just throw **** over the top :DLoogies are much more difficult though. ;)

[freshchris05]

Dang.. you f'in' hillbillies would whine about a toenail being an 1/8 inch too long on Jennifer Aniston!


Hillbillies?? probably not... Whining? maybe... but then again Texas is whining cuz we have the tunnel on our side...



ps. Jennifer aniston is probably still depressed. So long toenail or not women already have too much baggage without depression go for it.. hope u got ur xanax

[Big Red Ron]

Dang.. you f'in' hillbillies would whine about a toenail being an 1/8 inch too long on Jennifer Aniston!Well, she was dumped by an Okie. ;)

[Duke o Brewery]

Well, she was dumped by an Okie. ;)

Touche'!

[OUTrumpet]

that was maybe the gayest thing Mack has done.

Mack also complained about trash talking from our band, so they made a ruling last fall if they caught any of us talking **** when they were near us, that band person would be ejected too. :texan:

[Taxman71]

I hate the Big 12. Always have, always will. Mackgina only makes it worse. The fact that 33% of the entire conference and 66% of the southern division all hails from one state ruins it. Especially since that one state still has a complex about losing to Mexico 150 years ago.

[KyleUT]

I hate the Big 12. Always have, always will. Mackgina only makes it worse. The fact that 33% of the entire conference and 66% of the southern division all hails from one state ruins it. Especially since that one state still has a complex about losing to Mexico 150 years ago.

que? Better tell those folks to take down the monument at San Jacinto since we lost and all. :confused:

[Taxman71]

The "Texans are still ****ed about losing the Alamo" comment never fails to generate a post from a horn trolling the boards. Texas toughness peaked in the mid 1800s and has steadily declined. I would call Texas the France of the southwest.

[tbl]

The state of Texas is great... it's the University that is the epitome of gheyness and all things fag. The curtains were a small example, and now this crap makes it that much more apparent.

GHEY!

[Herr Scholz]

...but then again Texas is whining cuz we have the tunnel on our side...
Not for long. :D

[colleyvillesooner]

Not for long. :D

Wasn't in the contract. And the way Laura Miller handles these things, there won't be another. :mad:

[Taxman71]

The gayest thing about the curtains was that they were raised only when the whorns came in and out. There is absolutely no justifiable reason to have them other than to avoid Mack's boys getting initimidated by a bunch of drunk 50 year old men and women who are already behind a 20 foot chainlink fence.

Pure P****y.

[Herr Scholz]

Pure P****y.
So switch every other year. Seems fair. OU should have that advantage every year?

[NormanPride]

So switch states every other year. Seems fair. Texas should have that advantage every year?

Yeah, that's pretty stupid.

[colleyvillesooner]

So switch every other year. Seems fair. OU should have that advantage every year?

Blame your school, they chose that end.

[Herr Scholz]

Yeah, that's pretty stupid.
What's wrong with switching? Just because something's been unfair for many years doesn't mean you can't correct it now. That's been a big advantage for OU for a long time.

[Herr Scholz]

Blame your school, they chose that end.
So? That should last in perpetuity? Dodds is obviously making it an issue now.

[NormanPride]

What's wrong with switching? Just because something's been unfair for many years doesn't mean you can't correct it now. That's been a big advantage for OU for a long time.

And yet you guys talk series lead smack all the time... and yet the series is almost exactly even since the 50s... Face it man, it's weak sauce and even your *** knows it. It doesn't make a difference to the players and the record proves it.

[colleyvillesooner]

So? That should last in perpetuity? Dodds is obviously making it an issue now.

You had your shot, you blew it. Why would we ever give it back? Just be happy with the faggy curtains to protect your "boys" and move along.

It's not gonna change unless we want it to. And, we don't, despite what school official would be willing to change. Everyone knows that most likely, this bridges the gap until Jerry World is built. The game will move there or home and home in 2010. I think this is the lasta hoorah for the CB.

[Herr Scholz]

It doesn't make a difference to the players and the record proves it.
If it doesn't make a difference, switch. Or are you guys scared? And I'm sure your team would enjoy drinks and spit on them very much. :D

Maybe Stoops doesn't want to switch because he'd have to start wearing a real hat instead of that gay visor.

[freshchris05]

What's wrong with switching? Just because something's been unfair for many years doesn't mean you can't correct it now. That's been a big advantage for OU for a long time.


Advantage?? The freakin game is in Texas or should i say Texico... I like the game in dallas i do but to say that the tunnel is an unfair advantage and so and so is ignorant and weak... win or lose there are still drunk texicans with corn dogs cussing at u...

Hook 'em

[toast]

But if we switched we would miss out on the Greg Robinson like antics.

[Scott D]

is there nothing a group of texans can't screw up.

I bet if Dodds was alive back then he tried to renogiate the Alamo, you know switch sides with the winners as in Mexico.

Dodds would have asked Santa Ana to put up a big black barrier between his troops and the defenders so the defenders wouldn't have a clue how many Mexicans were out there.

[Herr Scholz]

You had your shot, you blew it. Why would we ever give it back? Just be happy with the faggy curtains to protect your "boys" and move along.
So let me get this straight. There's no advantage in the game for having the tunnel and Texas is pu$$y for the curtains. Yet, Oklahoma won't agree to going through the same thing every other year? Doesn't that make you guys cowards just as much?

[Herr Scholz]

Advantage?? The freakin game is in Texas...
So? In all my trips to the Cotton Bowl, I've yet to see the entire state inside the stadium. Your argument is what's weak.

[Taxman71]

So let me get this straight. There's no advantage in the game for having the tunnel and Texas is pu$$y for the curtains. Yet, Oklahoma won't agree to going through the same thing every year? Doesn't that make you guys cowards just as much?

Refusing to change a 50 year tradition (OU on the tunnel side) is not coward, it is good strategy. Texas has the refs, the locals and the media while OU has to travel to the state of Texas just to play the game. Now, the whorns have to hide their players from the menacing fans whether it be walking in/out of the lockerrooms or through the tunnel. Considering both of those locations are guarded by about 100 armed policeman (and roof snipers), I fail to see how a whorn can claim anyone outside of Austin is a coward.

[freshchris05]

So? In all my trips to the Cotton Bowl, I've yet to see the entire state inside the stadium. Your argument is what's weak.

im saying theres more fans and bias that leans toward the home state.. and ur arguements getting weaker... u don't get it. maybe if u lived on american soil and not in Texico... Comprende?


oh and by the way happy independence day!


Cinco de Mayo !

[Scott D]

So let me get this straight. There's no advantage in the game for having the tunnel and Texas is pu$$y for the curtains. Yet, Oklahoma won't agree to going through the same thing every other year? Doesn't that make you guys cowards just as much?

or we just don't trust that snake you call an AD.

[Herr Scholz]

Refusing to change a 50 year tradition (OU on the tunnel side) is not coward, it is good strategy.
One could say taking away this built in advantage for the Sooners by means of a black piece of cloth is also good strategy. If Joe C doesn't want to play fair and split this advantage from year to year, fine. Just don't complain about the curtains. It's hypocritical.


Texas has the refs, the locals and the media while OU has to travel to the state of Texas just to play the game.
The refs? What a complete joke. And the press? How does what someone writes in the paper the next day have an effect on the game? Also, no one's ever explained to me how the location of the stadium has an effect of what goes on inside the stadium where the fans are split 50/50. And the Longhorns have to travel the exact same distance as the Sooners. Ridiculous arguments, all.

[Taxman71]

It goes to show how stupid the whorns are. If they were smart, they would want the stadium split at the endzones rather than the 50 so neither team has the advantage and only their fans are behind the benches. Do whorn players get any less abuse by the OU fans who are literally feet away from the bench without any fencing or security guards? Is this ever complained about? No to both. The whorns are just using the tunnel argument to justify their cowardice and ending the tradition.

Then again, it would be hard to put a curtain in the middle of the tunnel so Mackgina doesn't soil his BVDs.

[Herr Scholz]

im saying theres more fans and bias that leans toward the home state...
More fans where? Sitting in front of their tv sets? The stadium's split 50/50. It's a neutral gamesite. What part of this don't you get?


oh and by the way happy independence day!

Cinco de Mayo !
Cinco de Mayo's not even the Mexican Independence Day.

[Herr Scholz]

or we just don't trust that snake you call an AD.
He just agree to lengthen our game in Dallas didn't he? I sure saw him get villified over here for holding out but nobody's thanking for letting it stay.

[colleyvillesooner]

It's not about fair. Fair was giving you the choice. YOU GUYS HAD THE ****ING CHOICE AND WERE TOO STUPID TO PICK THE END WITH THE TUNNEL!

I'll also bet, that if we ever did switch, there's no way in hell we'd request to put those curtains up.

I'll give Dodds thanks for keeping the game there. I think he really felt the pressure from his fansbase.

[freshchris05]

More fans where? Sitting in front of their tv sets? The stadium's split 50/50. It's a neutral gamesite. What part of this don't you get?


Cinco de Mayo's not even the Mexican Independence Day.

oh im sorry pedro... im talking about in texas! idiot.. and if u wanna be technical then the games played on the field and not in the tunnel so give me another reason why we should switch??

[Scott D]

He just agree to lengthen our game in Dallas didn't he? I sure saw him get villified over here for holding out but nobody's thanking for letting it stay.

wonder how hard his arm got twisted to agree to an extension in Dallas.

[Taxman71]

One could say taking away this built in advantage for the Sooners by means of a black piece of cloth is also good strategy. If Joe C doesn't want to play fair and split this advantage from year to year, fine. Just don't complain about the curtains. It's hypocritical.

The curtains have not been around for 50 years and take away a huge part of the tradition (i.e. - the tunnel walk). Whorn fans are resorting to little brother tactics. You know, play by my rules or I will take my ball and go home. So far, OU has let texas get away with it just to keep the game in the CB.



The refs? What a complete joke.

This is the dumbest statement in history. From 1984's plunger job and the pivotal first half calls in 2005, I fail to see how any whorn can argue this with a straight face.

[Herr Scholz]

wonder how hard his arm got twisted to agree to an extension in Dallas.
The big donors wanted it moved. I just think he didn't want to go down as the Bud Adams of Texas football.

[TheGodfather889]

This whole deal with the OU/Texas game and the status of it possibly not being in Dallas ****es me off. The switching of the sides ****es me off. Texas ****es me off. I'm ****ed off.

[Herr Scholz]

I'll also bet, that if we ever did switch, there's no way in hell we'd request to put those curtains up.

Fine. Let's switch and be done with the curtains every year. :D

[colleyvillesooner]

Fine. Let's switch and be done with the curtains every year. :D

nice try :)

[KyleUT]

oh im sorry pedro... im talking about in texas! idiot.. and if u wanna be technical then the games played on the field and not in the tunnel so give me another reason why we should switch??

Racism and ignorance of history all in one post! What fun.

Do y'all get that Texico and Texicans and all that crap really doesn't bother us?

[Herr Scholz]

This is the dumbest statement in history. From 1984's plunger job and the pivotal first half calls in 2005, I fail to see how any whorn can argue this with a straight face.
You guys get just as many calls as we do. You just conveniently forget them. Just makes you look like crybabies. I've read this site for a LONG time. You guys complain about the refs in EVERY game, not just the RRS. You have a ref conspiracy for every game you play.

We beat you 45-12 in '05. One interception wouldn't have made a difference. So sorry to point that out to you.

[BASSooner]

honestly I don't think the whorns should argue about switcing sides because for one, they made a choice to go to the opposite, why complain now? Also, we do have to travel to texas to play this game. If you see it, it actually does make it fair. Both sides to get the media but, texas gets a bunch more of it. The refs...I'm a little concerned about that. Last year on the OL at texas i saw some EXTREME holding that shouldve been called. As good as that line was, their should've been more holds called in there even though the team woul've won all of their games anyway. Still both teams should keep their sides. No point in arguing

[Taxman71]

The big donors wanted it moved. I just think he didn't want to go down as the Bud Adams of Texas football.

And why do big donors want it moved? Can't stand not to have a luxury box 4 hours a year? Nope. They believe it helps OU recruit Texas kids. This was never more evident than AD's statement after the 2003 65-13 drumming when he told Mack that the whorns got beat baaaadddd. Since AD is now the next Billy Simms, whorns are willing to lose the CB tradition just to try to keep up with OU. Talk about penile envy.

[KyleUT]

The refs...I'm a little concerned about that. Last year on the OL at texas i saw some EXTREME holding that shouldve been called. As good as that line was, their should've been more holds called in there even though the team woul've won all of their games anyway.


Bwahahahahaha! Oh man great stuff. This coming from an OU fan? Seriously? holding? You watched your OL the last 7 years?? Great stuff.

[colleyvillesooner]

You guys get just as many calls as we do. You just conveniently forget them. Just makes you look like crybabies. I've read this site for a LONG time. You guys complain about the refs in EVERY game, not just the RRS. You have a ref conspiracy for every game you play.

We beat you 45-12 in '05. One interception wouldn't have made a difference. So sorry to point that out to you.

I don't think there is a college football fan base that doesn't complain about Refs in a loss. It's as natural as a whorn being a di*head. ;)

[Herr Scholz]

Last year on the OL at texas i saw some EXTREME holding that shouldve been called.
There's holding by both OLs every play. You should watch your own OL sometime.

[BASSooner]

yeah I saw OUrs this year. Any bit of slight holding the refs shot their flags in the air. I'm glad your enjoying this. I bet you have no idea what is going on kyle

[colleyvillesooner]

There's holding by both OLs every play. You should watch any OL in the country.

Fixed. Football would be boring if they called every holding call.

[Taxman71]

You guys get just as many calls as we do. You just conveniently forget them. Just makes you look like crybabies. I've read this site for a LONG time. You guys complain about the refs in EVERY game, not just the RRS. You have a ref conspiracy for every game you play.

We beat you 45-12 in '05. One interception wouldn't have made a difference. So sorry to point that out to you.

Name one call in the RRW was pivotal in OU winning. As for a conspiracy, can you honestly say we did not get screwed in Lubbock, TEXAS?

As for 05, you were clearly the better team and surely would have won anyway. However, the game was tight and that spark right before half could have been huge. We will never know. Remember, half your points came on 3 plays of over 50 yards (80 yard run, hail mary, fumble return). Those last two came after the negated INT.

[Herr Scholz]

whorns are willing to lose the CB tradition just to try to keep up with OU. Talk about penile envy.
Interesting strategy on Dodds' part. He wants that game to change venues so he lengthens the contract of us playing there. Shrewd.

[Herr Scholz]

I bet you have no idea what is going on kyle
Maybe I should smoke a little... :D

[colleyvillesooner]

yeah I saw OUrs this year. Any bit of slight holding the refs shot their flags in the air. I'm glad your enjoying this. I bet you have no idea what is going on kyle

Dude, I'm not siding with the whorns, but both lines always hold. It's college football. We only had 6 penaties in that game. Texas had 12.

We weren't winning that game last year, interception or not. No AD, freshmen QB and still developing offensive line.

Just like in 03. VY doesn't fumble that ball at the goal line, score just changes to 65-20.

[47straight]

Herr, you're stuck. Either it's an advantage, and your team is a bunch of pussies, or it's not an advantage which means that it doesn't make a difference. If it makes no difference, then inertia wins with nothing to move it.

If you need help with an explanation about principles of physics, hustle down to Houston and ask the Rice-a-roni's about.

[freshchris05]

Racism and ignorance of history all in one post! What fun.

Do y'all get that Texico and Texicans and all that crap really doesn't bother us?

actually theres no ingnorance in history in this post.. and the earlier one i apologize im sorry i dont have mexico's holidays down... and as far as racism it's a lil hard to hate urself.. when i make a joke about mexico u might think oh thats sum fat white supremacist well lets evaluate this...

fat? a lil chubby ill give ya that
white? nope
supremacist? naww

try again u sensative prick... "racism and ignorance all in one post" funny...

[Taxman71]

Interesting strategy on Dodds' part. He wants that game to change venues so he lengthens the contract of us playing there. Shrewd.

Yeah, he agreed to a whopping 2 year extension. Not exactly a long term commitment. Besides, the way OU has played it, he would have got 100% of the blame for it.

[colleyvillesooner]

This thread rules, man I can't wait for October.

[Scott D]

The big donors wanted it moved. I just think he didn't want to go down as the Bud Adams of Texas football.

not long ago you and other tejas posters were all but calling him the 'pet' of the big donors. so you can understand if we don't particularly trust this 'change of heart' by him.

[Herr Scholz]

Name one call in the RRW was pivotal in OU winning.
I'm not blaming the refs for any of our losses. You guys are in that interception call last year.


As for a conspiracy, can you honestly say we did not get screwed in Lubbock, TEXAS?
No, you got absoulutey jobbed in that game.


Remember, half your points came on 3 plays of over 50 yards (80 yard run, hail mary, fumble return). Those last two came after the negated INT.
Does it matter when or how? In those 2 drubbings you gave us, you had a lot of points off big plays and turnovers. Are you saying we don't level Bomar and Wright doesn't return that ball if your interception stood up?

BTW, in the '05 game (for you conspiracy theorists), UT was flagged 12 times for 110 yards and OU 6 times for 50 yards. Another interesting strategy by the refs if they were pro UT. :D

[freshchris05]

This thread rules, man I can't wait for October.

haha arguements are always worth fighting....

[BASSooner]

ooooo please don't talk about the tech game. the majority of my friends are going to tech and everytime they talk about ANY of their football players, program, coaches, etc. i really want to shoot them

[TheGodfather889]

You have a ref conspiracy for every game you play.

Explain the Oklahoma/Texas Tech football game for us will you?

[Herr Scholz]

Herr, you're stuck. Either it's an advantage...
It's definitely an advantage. And since Joe C won't SHARE the advantage from year to year, we're taking it away. It's vogue for you guys to call this move pu$$y on Dodds' part, but Joe C obviously recognizes the advantage of keeping the tunnel.

[TexasLidig8r]

Stop whining about the refs... Quite simply.. don't put yourself in a position to win.. or lose.. a game because of a lousy ref call. (Although, you f'in' hillbillies DID get jobbed in Lubbock!).

Leave the RRS AS IS! Don't change sides... I don't want the stinkin' tunnel. Why try to fix something that is not broke!

The RRS has become one of the quintessentially unique games not just in college football, but in all sports. There is nothing, and in all likelihood, will be nothing, like it.

As for Dodds, he probably did not want his legacy to be, "The Athletic Director Who Lost the RRS."

Oh.. and f'in' hillbillies.. don't forget that it was a mere 3 - 4 years ago that there was a big outcry from OU to move the game home and home.

Stop whining and live the tradition.

harummph.

(oh Colley.. don't make me beat you like if your momma stole something!!!)

[Taxman71]

It's definitely an advantage. And since Joe C won't SHARE the advantage from year to year, we're taking it away. It's vogue for you guys to call this move pu$$y on Dodds' part, but Joe C obviously recognizes the advantage of keeping the tunnel.

So, as you said, the 75,000 fans split 50/50 in the CB have no outcome on the game, yet the 100 or so around the tunnel provide a huge advantage? Then why are those seats the cheapest in the entire stadium?

If whorns really think like this, the rivalry is doomed as long as Stoops keeps pounding Mack's backside.

[Herr Scholz]

Explain the Oklahoma/Texas Tech football game for us will you?
So, you got bad calls in one game and you extrapolate this to mean the refs in Texas are always against you?

Explain the pro-OU penalty discrapancy in last year's RRS. 12/110 for us vs. 6/50 for you.

[Herr Scholz]

yet the 100 or so around the tunnel provide a huge advantage?
We'll see what you say when your team is covered in Dr. Pepper and Copenhagen spit.

[BASSooner]

We'll see what you say when your team is covered in Dr. Pepper and Copenhagen spit.
I'll be bringing painted rocks and balloons filled with crimson paint:D

[Herr Scholz]

BTW, just for the sake of argument, I'm looking at penalties and penalty yardage in our game the past several years. UT has had more penalty yardage in this game the past 4 games. How does this equate to the refs being on UT's side since the game's in Dallas? Bueller?

'05: UT-12/110, 6/50
'04: UT-5/40, OU 5/29
'03: UT-11/112, OU 9/70
'02: UT-7/68, OU 7/51

http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=34&url_subchannel_id=&url_article_id=19&change_well_id=2

[TexasLidig8r]

Don't cornfuze them with facts Herr.....

Nothing to see here.. move along.

[colleyvillesooner]

BTW, just for the sake of argument, I'm looking at penalties and penalty yardage in our game the past several years. UT has had more penalty yardage in this game the past 4 games. How does this equate to the refs being on UT's side since the game's in Dallas? Bueller?

'05: UT-12/110, 6/50
'04: UT-5/40, OU 5/29
'03: UT-11/112, OU 9/70
'02: UT-7/68, OU 7/51

http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=34&url_subchannel_id=&url_article_id=19&change_well_id=2

Well, quit cheating ;)

[colleyvillesooner]

(oh Colley.. don't make me beat you like if your momma stole something!!!)

What'd I do?

[Minnesotahorn1]

I honestly don't care about switching sides. It's not like the game is played inside that tunnel.

Those of you bitching about the screens, I assume they're not sound proof. Meaning you can still berate the players to heart's content. Or are you all upset over losing the ability to throw things at college kids?

"or we just don't trust that snake you call an AD."

Funny. That makes two of us.

[BASSooner]

why did you even sign up for soonerfans?

[TexasLidig8r]

What'd I do?

I don't think there is a college football fan base that doesn't complain about Refs in a loss. It's as natural as a whorn being a di*head. ;)
__________________


That would be.. MR... di*ckhead. :D

Well.. off to start to debauch a bit.

[Big Red Ron]

So, you got bad calls in one game and you extrapolate this to mean the refs in Texas are always against you?

Explain the pro-OU penalty discrapancy in last year's RRS. 12/110 for us vs. 6/50 for you.Eh, I remember an INT in the endzone (maybe by Stansberry) that my grandmother from the other other endzone could have seen was in bounds but the ref standing on the line said he was out. Dude was from texas.

[Herr Scholz]

Eh, I remember an INT in the endzone (maybe by Stansberry) that my grandmother from the other other endzone could have seen was in bounds but the ref standing on the line said he was out. Dude was from texas.
That was the '84 game, right (right before I became a fan)? So Sooners should have the tunnel in the Cotton Bowl forever because the refs are always against them in Dallas, Texas as evidenced by controversial int. calls in both 1984 AND 2005?

[Taxman71]

We'll see what you say when your team is covered in Dr. Pepper and Copenhagen spit.

Since 1989, I have sat next to the tunnel at least 4 times. Only once have I seen any projectile thrown in the tunnel and it was directed towards Gary Gibbs. The concept of spit, etc. is nothing but an urban myth contrived to gain sympathy for the whorns' gender-confusion support group. Not to mention that the cops/guards are watching everything like a hawk down there. It gets talked about alot, but in the last 15 or so years, it just does not happen. Besides, Copenhagen spit would showed up very easily on those pretty little white helmet of yours.

[colleyvillesooner]

I don't think there is a college football fan base that doesn't complain about Refs in a loss. It's as natural as a whorn being a di*head. ;)
__________________


That would be.. MR... di*ckhead. :D

Well.. off to start to debauch a bit.


OOOOOOOHHH, That. Well, if it looks like a duck... ;)

[Herr Scholz]

The concept of spit, etc. is nothing but an urban myth...
Since our players, coaches and ADs have said differently in the press, I don't believe you.


Besides, Copenhagen spit would showed up very easily on those pretty little white helmet of yours.
I doubt your team thought they were very pretty last year. Especially Bomar.

[colleyvillesooner]

I doubt your team thought they were very pretty last year. Especially Bomar.


Wow, burn. :D

[Herr Scholz]

Wow, burn. :D
Yeah, eat it. :D

[NormanPride]

Man I sat next to the tunnel the past four games. Well, not the last one with the curtain, but the four before that. I have never seen anything thrown at the players, and as far as I can remember there's been a net there to prevent people from throwing things.

Switching sides is pu$$y. Texas is whining about an "advantage" that we gain from being able to yell at players a little bit more for about 10 seconds. Do you actually believe this? Do you think that when Vince fumbled the ball all those 80 bagillion times he was thinking "Man, I wish that guy in the 25th row hadn't called me an idiot when I walked through the tunnel." Do you honestly think that the 65-13 and 63-14 butt-whippings we layed on y'all were influenced in any way by this "ordeal"? To put it in your court, do you think the reaming you gave us this past year was caused by less taunting?

Get over yourself, whorns. This is pointless. We have it, we don't want to let it go because we have fun yelling, and it makes NO DIFFERENCE in the game.

Plus, you guys don't have to turn around to see a freaking replay. :les: SO SHUT IT! :les:

[NormanPride]

Since our players, coaches and ADs have said differently in the press, I don't believe you.


I doubt your team thought they were very pretty last year. Especially Bomar.

So you believe Mack's excuses like "the wind was too strong" and "they yelled at us"? You respect players that complain about spit? You pay attention to the tea-sipping fairy of an AD? Sad.


;)

[Herr Scholz]

OK, you convinced me. Let's keep our own sides. But we'll keep doing the black curtain thing just to make your day a little less enjoyable. ;)

[FaninAma]

All I know is that UT's new QB=new meat for OU's defense. It's gonna be allsome.

[NormanPride]

OK, you convinced me. Let's keep our own sides. But we'll keep doing the black curtain thing just to make your day a little less enjoyable. ;)

:mad:

;)

[Big Red Ron]

Just wait until those "Big Donors" from texass realize they can't see the jumbotron when they swich sides with us...it'll last about one year.

[Jello Biafra]

You pay attention to the tea-sipping fairy?


;)



nope. they only pay attention to the tea bag fairys

[Jello Biafra]

OK, you convinced me. Let's keep our own sides. But we'll keep doing the black curtain thing just to make your day a little less enjoyable. ;)


what would be less enjoyable would be allowing you to even post on this message board one more day but since we can't do anything about that....i have a question.


do you think you and your band of fag tags could stay off this board for one whole day? just not log in at all? i mean check all you want but don't log in.........

wait fag tags lol i get confused. is a fag tag titilators avatar or is it...a group of texas fans who frolic and play in the water half nekkid......



nm stuck in the 80s.....



fag tag
adj.

The seemingly pointless 'loop' on the back of a boys/mans 'Oxford' type shirt. Many a child was caught pulling these loops off unsuspecting victims.


Fag Tag

n. The Loop on the top of the back pleat on button-down shirts. AKA, ripcord.



EG: openacan threw herr shultz to the ground by his fagtag......

[Big Red Ron]

Just wait until those "Big Donors" from texass realize they can't see the jumbotron when they swich sides with us...it'll last about one year.:texan:

[Octavian]

I've never seen a whinier bunch of little girls in all my life...

"We want the game moved. Can we have curtain then? Let's switch sides....waaaaa!"

You'd think a football team could handle some jeering before the game....if these 19-23 year old guys have never heard some bad language or taunting, they should distribute earplugs or pink blankies so they can feel more safe and secure....

[OUstud]

Bottom line: Mexas never complained about the tunnel on our side, never complained about our fans yelling at them through chainlink fences, until OU got good and got a lot of national attention. Ever notice the parallels between when, for example, College Gameday became popular and commercialized and when OU football came back? Saxet wanted to steal some of our thunder by putting up those curtains so they could get some attention. They were longing for the days pre-5 game winning streak, you know, the mid-late 90s, when they dominated (if you call tying a Smellsofbourbon team, losing to Blake's first team, winning by 3 against Blake's first team, part II, blowing us out when our players had clearly quit, and rallying from behind to beat a team with a brand new coaching staff "dominating"). They put up the Queer Eye curtains, only failing to put flower designs on them, and they beat us in a down year. Now they want to switch sides. IT'S BEEN THIS WAY FOR AS LONG AS THE GAME HAS BEEN IN DALLAS. WHY SWITCH NOW? This is just because they aren't man enough to take a little smack talk. I predict a final score this year somewhere along the lines of 41-0. Colt McCoy meets The Real McCoy, Gerald, repeatedly.

[Big Red Ron]

Bottom line: Colt McCoy meets The Real McCoy, Gerald, repeatedly.:D

[Jello Biafra]

:D
indeed.



texass will get thier cornbred stolen this year......

[Lubbock]

Hmmm. My guess is that Tech will get the chance to pay for OU's anger at the '05 refs (and how!). I doubt, however, that OU is going to be a happy place at the end of the RRS. What is really amusing from over here in West Texas is watching one bunch of fans carp and complain that another bunch of fans are carping and complaining. Kind of a kettle/pot situation. Anyway, have fun with the name calling!

[Jello Biafra]

Hmmm. My guess is that Tech will get the chance to pay for OU's anger at the '05 refs (and how!). I doubt, however, that OU is going to be a happy place at the end of the RRS. What is really amusing from over here in West Texas is watching one bunch of fans carp and complain that another bunch of fans are carping and complaining. Kind of a kettle/pot situation. Anyway, have fun with the name calling!


shut the **** up you buddy holly humping pecker sniffers. we'll deal with your dumbass when we're done spanking these imbeciles.......

[Soonerwolf]

Hmmm. My guess is that Tech will get the chance to pay for OU's anger at the '05 refs (and how!). I doubt, however, that OU is going to be a happy place at the end of the RRS. What is really amusing from over here in West Texas is watching one bunch of fans carp and complain that another bunch of fans are carping and complaining. Kind of a kettle/pot situation. Anyway, have fun with the name calling!

Whatever . . . come to Norman this year and watch OU beat Tech. Then you'll witness fans "carping" that "at least the refs gave us one last year :texan:

[BASSooner]

I don't think tech will have an offense this year:D

[OKC-SLC]

This is sooo maddening. Never give up the tunnel. Never give up the cotton bowl. I'm going to go punch an old lady in the mouth.
b**ch stole my fish.

[MamaMia]

How petty. I hereby nominate the Texass Longhorns for the 2006 Crybaby Award.

Have they no shame? They got a taste of sweet success on the backs of our temporary rebuilding weakness, and they know it. So now they're so afraid of having to slither back underneath their rock of mediocrity that they are willing to embarrass themselves by whinning about whos by the tunnel?!! Are you kidding me? Talk about grasping at straws to try to stay at the top. If they honestly believe that being by the trunnel is going to help them in any way whatsoever, then we're already ahead before the game starts. What a bunch of pansies.

[Jello Biafra]

So switch every other year. Seems fair. OU should have that advantage every year?
It seems funny to me that we have been on that end forever and now all of the sudden we start stomping your asses to the tune of the worst defeats in the series and all of the sudden it becomes intimidating. you guys are true pusses.....the roast beef curtains that slacker brown has erected does nothing but **** people off and more than likely makes things worse on your team. but hey, whatever.

[Jello Biafra]

kyleut is still green for some reason......

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Those are the Sooner fans who whine about not getting to go to the game due to work, money, cramps, etc. and should be ignored. They do NOT represent more than a tiny percentage of fans.My guess is that you Dallas guys are wrong on this assessment, and that you would enjoy the game as home and home as much or more than having it in that "neutral" site., where the whole city is pulling for tx, and the refs know what to do to make it happen.

[MamaMia]

My guess is that you Dallas guys are wrong on this assessment, and that you would enjoy the game as home and home as much or more than having it in that "neutral" site., where the whole city is pulling for tx, and the refs know what to do to make it happen.
How they even have the nerve to count this as a win is beyond my scope of understanding, but then I was cut from a different cloth I guess. Thank goodness I take after my mothers side.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/OUmom/0A9AC353-98F8-E08F-2A548954DE44444E.jpg

[Big Red Ron]

How they even have the nerve to count this as a win is beyond my scope of understanding, but then I was cut from a different cloth I guess. Thank God I take after my mothers side.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/OUmom/keithstansberry.jpgAwsome! That's the one I was talking about! Thanks mom!

[Light Beer]

http://colleyvillesooner.com/OUTEXAS05/gheyness.jpg
there is a ton of people wearing orange in those seats.

Anyway whats the big deal with allowing the home team have the tunnel side of the stadium? Perhaps having Sooner players go through the gaulant of opposing fans trash talking (every other year) them instead of cheering them will help create more intensity in the series.

[MamaMia]

http://colleyvillesooner.com/OUTEXAS05/gheyness.jpg
there is a ton of people wearing orange in those seats.

Anyway whats the big deal with allowing the home team have the tunnel side of the stadium? Perhaps having Sooner players go through the gaulant of opposing fans trash talking (every other year) them instead of cheering them will help create more intensity in the series.
Oh good Lord, the game is played IN TEXAS and our money is spent right there IN TEXAS. Now they want the tunnel? I would have said...screw 'em!

How about during the years we are the home team, the sales tax we spend there gets sent to Oklahoma?

Next thing you know, they'll be wanting us to leave either Boomer or Sooner at home since they just have one animal there.

[freshchris05]

Next thing you know, they'll be wanting us to leave either Boomer or Sooner at home since they just have one animal there.

its an unfair advantage. we can alternate bringing boomer or sooner every year, or we can let them have one every year. i mean it's only fair...haha screw texas haha Hook 'em

[suncoastsooner7]

Even you know that is crap. Like we can't just throw **** over the top :D

I did.

[Big Red Ron]

How about during the years we are the home team, the sales tax we spend there gets sent to Oklahoma?

I don't spend a dime in Dallas. Bring my own beer and stay at a friend's house. It's a principal thing for me.

[PrideTrombone]

indeed.



texass will get thier cornbred stolen this year......

http://images.allmoviephoto.com/1999_Life/eddie_murphy_michael_taliferro_life_001.jpg

You gon' eat yo' coooonnnebread?

[101sooner]

OU should agree to any terms that UT proposes without delay. As a matter of fact, OU just should agree to play their asses in Austin every year. Eliminate the ****ing excuses in one move. A two game Oklahoma winning streak in Austin would bring the entire 'Horn football program to it's knees.

[Ike]

OU should agree to any terms that UT proposes without delay. As a matter of fact, OU just should agree to play their asses in Austin every year. Eliminate the ****ing excuses in one move. A two game Oklahoma winning streak in Austin would bring the entire 'Horn football program to it's knees.

it still wouldn't stop the wind. not even a dome could do that for Tejas.

[StoopTroup]

Texas needs to be kicked out of the Big XII.

[MamaMia]

Hmmm. My guess is that Tech will get the chance to pay for OU's anger at the '05 refs (and how!). I doubt, however, that OU is going to be a happy place at the end of the RRS. What is really amusing from over here in West Texas is watching one bunch of fans carp and complain that another bunch of fans are carping and complaining. Kind of a kettle/pot situation. Anyway, have fun with the name calling!We arent complaining. You got your tunnel of love curtain to shield you from all the mean OU fans, didnt you? We are merely making fun of you for asking for something so petty, bevo breath. :D

"Mama, those big bad Sooner people wont let us be by the tunnel. We never get a turn. Waaaaaaaaaaaaa!"

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/OUmom/crying.jpg

[SleestakSooner]

He just agree to lengthen our game in Dallas didn't he? I sure saw him get villified over here for holding out but nobody's thanking for letting it stay.

It's statements like these from Texans that prove how utterly arrogant and moronic those south of the red river can be. Do you really believe we should be thanking Dodds for "letting it stay?"

Since this is an Oklahoma message board and you are a supporter of our arch rival I call for you to send each of us a personal thank you message for "letting" you stay on these boards!
Stupid :texan:

[soonerbub]

it still wouldn't stop the wind. not even a dome could do that for Tejas.

Heh. All the tunnel "barrier" does is make it "trickier" for :mack:

I am sick of these stupid Hook 'em trying to run the conference. We should have listened to the huskers and let the sw conference die. It's really sad when you win one out of six and think you can change everything that made the game what it is. Hook 'em SUCCS

[Taxman71]

My guess is that you Dallas guys are wrong on this assessment, and that you would enjoy the game as home and home as much or more than having it in that "neutral" site., where the whole city is pulling for tx, and the refs know what to do to make it happen.


No, I have made the trip nearly every year for the last 20. The RRW in Dallas is like a bowl game every year and is unmatched by any other sporting event I have ever been to. Home and home would turn this into nothing more than OU-AtM without the fan interaction and carnival atmosphere. I get sick of hearing those who chose not to go to Dallas try to ruin a good thing for the tens of thousands that go and enjoy it.

Bottom line: OU - Texas in Norman or Austin = just another game.

[OUstud]

Texas sucks.

[Flagstaffsooner]

Texas sucks.You misspelled texass.

[Bevo-Stevo]

It's really sad when you win one out of six

Hmmm....didn't realize the Texas-ou game has only been played 6 times(56-39-5....yeah that seems about right). Guess that's in keeping with the same sooner "logic" that seems to arbitrarily believe that college football began in the 1950's.

[Octavian]

Hmmm....didn't realize the Texas-ou game has only been played 6 times(56-39-5....yeah that seems about right). Guess that's in keeping with the same sooner "logic" that seems to arbitrarily believe that college football began in the 1950's.

miss the point much?

[yermom]

No, I have made the trip nearly every year for the last 20. The RRW in Dallas is like a bowl game every year and is unmatched by any other sporting event I have ever been to. Home and home would turn this into nothing more than OU-AtM without the fan interaction and carnival atmosphere. I get sick of hearing those who chose not to go to Dallas try to ruin a good thing for the tens of thousands that go and enjoy it.

Bottom line: OU - Texas in Norman or Austin = just another game.

there is a reason like 100,000 OU fans show up and don't even go to the game and that tickets get into the hundreds of dollars

there isn't any thing like it, it will be bad for college football if it changes IMO

[goingoneight]

Hmmm....didn't realize the Texas-ou game has only been played 6 times(UT 3 - OU 7...yeah that seems about right). Guess that's in keeping with the same sooner "logic" that seems to arbitrarily believe that college football began in the 1950's.

Hmm... you also didn't realize he/she wrote one out of the last six, and I'm sure your ancestors really enjoyed college football while there was a major war going on overseas.

Why are you over here anyway? Don't you get tired of looking stupid? :rolleyes:

[Bevo-Stevo]

one out of the last six

No, einstein....I copied it just as it was originally written. Didn't write something different then say, "fixed it." BTW, if that's not the most adolescent thing I've ever seen on any football board it sure comes close. As far as my ancestors, I bet they did enjoy whipping up on ou on a regular basis....wasn't just a club team UT was playing....it was the football team from ou. You guys will never match or overtake Texas in this series....even if they play for another 101 years. I think that's what gets under sooner fans' skin the most. Deal with it.

[XingTheRubicon]

No, einstein....I copied it just as it was originally written. Didn't write something different then say, "fixed it." BTW, if that's not the most adolescent thing I've ever seen on any football board it sure comes close. As far as my ancestors, I bet they did enjoy whipping up on ou on a regular basis....wasn't just a club team UT was playing....it was the football team from ou. You guys will never match or overtake Texas in this series....even if they play for another 101 years. I think that's what gets under sooner fans' skin the most. Deal with it.

Time for another refresher course, I guess...

More NC's
More Conference championships
More All Americans
More Heisman, Butkus, etc.
More AP Top 20 finishes
More AP Top 15 finishes
More AP Top 10 finishes
More AP Top 5 finishes
More AP Top 3 finishes
More AP weeks at No 1
More Bowl wins
More BCS Bowl wins
More Points scored
Higher Overall winning percentage
More fans that don't have pressed Wranglers


Just soak it in, take your time.

[Big Red Ron]

You guys will never match or overtake Texas in this series....even if they play for another 101 years. I think that's what gets under sooner fans' skin the most. Deal with it.lol...you texans are such a collection of worthless ******-bags.

Let's just say, I'm unimpressed with your series smack, mostly because we are arguably the greatest football program ever.

[Bevo-Stevo]

Time for another refresher course, I guess...

56-39-5. Have a good one.


we are arguably the greatest football program ever.

Yeah....you're legends in your own minds.

[Octavian]

Yeah....you're legends in your own minds.

Street&Smith recently placed OU at #2 in their all-time greatest college football programs. After the top 4, there's a huge drop-off. Texas came no where close.

[SleestakSooner]

I guess Herr Scholz is too busy sending out those thank you messages to reply here.

And Bevo... at the current ratio of Stoops vs. Brown domination OU... oh well it would happen in my lifetime. That is all.

[sooner94]

I'm sure this is not the first time Horn football playrs have wanted to changes positions with another dude.

:)

[XingTheRubicon]

heh

[XingTheRubicon]

I'm a ******.

Do you know that 49 states view Oklahoma as a better program than UT?

Oklahoma>Texas

Fact.


It is what it is.

[Octavian]

but, but, but....I've been told all my life by other Texans that no one is better than Texas at anything

[caphorns]

Listen to you guys acting like we aren't in charge of this deal. The Arkies are willing to take whatever we want to give apparently. Our rowdy fans can apparently spit copenhagen and bourbon at their players and call them Hog Fags for 30 minutes prior to the game. They'll give us 3/4ers of the stadium every year and agree to allowing double the holding penalties on their side. Plus, we get to pay the refs. Our police will also be allowed to arrest unruly hog fans on site and en masse. For every injured Texas player, we will be allowed to take 2 of their players out back and execute them. So why not switch one group of white and red hillbillies for the other. ;)

[Big Red Ron]

Listen to you guys acting like we aren't in charge of this deal. The Arkies are willing to take whatever we want to give apparently. Our rowdy fans can apparently spit copenhagen and bourbon at their players and call them Hog Fags for 30 minutes prior to the game. They'll give us 3/4ers of the stadium every year and agree to allowing double the holding penalties on their side. Plus, we get to pay the refs. Our police will also be allowed to arrest unruly hog fans on site and en masse. So why not switch one group of white and red hillbillies for the other. ;)I say go for it. Take that hick show over to Jerry's world and we'll keep the cotton bowl and fair and replace you with aTm.;)

[Herr Scholz]

I guess Herr Scholz is too busy sending out those thank you messages to reply here.
No, I'm just sitting back, watching the melee. :D

[soonerboy_odanorth]

Listen to you guys acting like we aren't in charge of this deal. The Arkies are willing to take whatever we want to give apparently. Our rowdy fans can apparently spit copenhagen and bourbon at their players and call them Hog Fags for 30 minutes prior to the game. They'll give us 3/4ers of the stadium every year and agree to allowing double the holding penalties on their side. Plus, we get to pay the refs. Our police will also be allowed to arrest unruly hog fans on site and en masse. So why not switch one group of white and red hillbillies for the other. ;)

Because that's a whole lot of money and histrionics you whorns would have to go through to re-arrange everything just for the privilege of showing up midway through the 2nd quarter to see that your pantywaist squad is still getting thrashed by a couple or more touchdowns. :P

[caphorns]

I say go for it. Take that hick show over to Jerry's world and we'll keep the cotton bowl and fair and replace you with aTm.;)

I can't imagine what tricks you'd want the aggies to do for you. I'd bet it would be illegal sh!t.

Not to mention that the Ags can't buy off the Dallas PD like we can :)

[Big Red Ron]

I can't imagine what tricks you'd want the aggies to do for you. I'd bet it would be illegal sh!t.

Not to mention that the Ags can't buy off the Dallas PD like we can :)Same could be said about Arky. National media wil be like, huh? Who cares. Regional TV at best.

[caphorns]

Same could be said about Arky. National media wil be like, huh? Who cares. Regional TV at best.


In all seriousness, I'd agree. They'd still cover the RRS, but the Dallas games would be stupid.

[footballfanatic]

It's sad that people have become so pathetic that they rain trash down on athletes. It's just as sad that so many low -class people on this board are proud of that.

[Big Red Ron]

It's sad that people have become so pathetic that they rain trash down on athletes. It's just as sad that so many low -class people on this board are proud of that.Why are you here then? You could really show us by just leaving. Kinda like a boycott, that'd show us good. Whatever you do just don't boycott us, please.

[Octavian]

It's sad that people have become so pathetic that they rain trash down on athletes. It's just as sad that so many low -class people on this board are proud of that.

class smack when discussing the RRW? You lost?

I was walking down Midway w/ my grandad after the 92 game as a 9 year old...a UT married couple pointed at me and laughed and called me a loser. I pretty much realized then that "class" had nothing to do w/ the RRW.

It's a vicious cycle....I've repaid the favor to many a Horn at the Fair since then :D

[footballfanatic]

Why are you here then? You could really show us by just leaving. Kinda like a boycott, that'd show us good. Whatever you do just don't boycott us, please.

I'm here cause I love football and I love to talk about it. The behavior I'm discussing has nothing to do whatsoever with football. There is no excuse for people acting like children--I take that back--my children would never concieve of doing anything like that. Cowards always hide in crowds, and perform despicable acts when they think they won't be caught. They make us all look bad. Anyone who condones cowardly behavior is a coward themselves, and should be ashamed of themselves.
With Americans dying in combat, it's pathetic that people save their greatest hatred for rival sports fans.

[colleyvillesooner]

I'm here cause I love football and I love to talk about it. The behavior I'm discussing has nothing to do whatsoever with football. There is no excuse for people acting like children--I take that back--my children would never concieve of doing anything like that. Cowards always hide in crowds, and perform despicable acts when they think they won't be caught. They make us all look bad. Anyone who condones cowardly behavior is a coward themselves, and should be ashamed of themselves.
With Americans dying in combat, it's pathetic that people save their greatest hatred for rival sports fans.

Sounds like it's somebody's time of the month. :D

[footballfanatic]

class smack when discussing the RRW? You lost?

I was walking down Midway w/ my grandad after the 92 game as a 9 year old...a UT married couple pointed at me and laughed and called me a loser. I pretty much realized then that "class" had nothing to do w/ the RRW.

It's a vicious cycle....I've repaid the favor to many a Horn at the Fair since then :D

I agree with you. By low class, I mean people who don't know how to act like adults, and I include the UT couple you mention. As I've stated many times on this site, there are despicable fans on both sides, and I place them in the same category of worthless people.

[freshchris05]

I was at a game when i was younger and there was this guy with an OU flag about 60-70 atleast he was old... well this texass douch bag in his mid 30's grabbed the flag and tried to throw it down. so hes wrestling with this elderly man talking **** the whole time when my dad (a 6'2 ex-allstate defensive end) gets up and sqaushes the situation... before that game the rrs was always just another game (because i was young) but after that game and for the rest of my life, i hate texas

[footballfanatic]

I was at a game when i was younger and there was this guy with an OU flag about 60-70 atleast he was old... well this texass douch bag in his mid 30's grabbed the flag and tried to throw it down. so hes wrestling with this elderly man talking **** the whole time when my dad (a 6'2 ex-allstate defensive end) gets up and sqaushes the situation... before that game the rrs was always just another game (because i was young) but after that game and for the rest of my life, i hate texas

Sad and pathetic behavior, absolutely. But do you mean you hate UT and fans, or you hate the state of Texas and all the people in it? That's also sad. I lived through 911 in Manhattan and I lost friends--argueably worse than watching someone try to wrestle a flag away from an older gentleman, but I don't hate Arabs, just the people who committed the offense.

[Taxman71]

That is what makes the rivalry so great, it is like the civil war. The state and people most closely resembling Oklahoma is Texass and vice versa. Therefore, we hate each other more than those hippie freaks out in Cali kind of like how brothers fight to the death.

Both schools have their good and bad. Just last year, I had great conversations about the game (before and after) with whorn fans in my hotel bar/lobby and the fair food court. I also had encounters with whorn fans who were ready to throw down because I gave them the upside-down sign. (Note: if you are partying in Dallas the night before the RRW and you are wearing burnt orange from head to toe, do not be offended when people give you the loser sign).

In any event, the worst are the chicks. Some drunk coed shoving the hookem in my face (knowing I can't just take her to the ground) ticks me off 10x's worse than the typical whorn loser in his intentionally-scuffed redwing boots. The only fistacuffs I have had in nearly 20 RRW was with an OU fan who was embarrassing me by laying into elderly whorn fans. He gave us all a bad name.

But don't forget, I hate texass.

[Herr Scholz]

There are idiots on both sides. To try and paint an entire fanbase forever by the actions of one individual doesn't make much sense.

[freshchris05]

Sad and pathetic behavior, absolutely. But do you mean you hate UT and fans, or you hate the state of Texas and all the people in it? That's also sad. I lived through 911 in Manhattan and I lost friends--argueably worse than watching someone try to wrestle a flag away from an older gentleman, but I don't hate Arabs, just the people who committed the offense.

It's a game... hate keeps the rivalry, theres not a rivalry without hate... You want us to lose we want you to lose...theres a line drawn in the sand... its all for the game dont take everything so serious... and besides i didnt know it was arabs??? i though it was the taliban...

[footballfanatic]

I was at a game when i was younger and there was this guy with an OU flag about 60-70 atleast he was old... well this texass douch bag in his mid 30's grabbed the flag and tried to throw it down. so hes wrestling with this elderly man talking **** the whole time when my dad (a 6'2 ex-allstate defensive end) gets up and sqaushes the situation... before that game the rrs was always just another game (because i was young) but after that game and for the rest of my life, i hate texas

One of the stories from Texas/Ohio State last year was a Texas dad and his young son (7 yrs old) getting beer poured on by a drunk fan after the game. The fan wanted to fight, and actually pushed the son!!!! Security came, but the guy fled.

[freshchris05]

That is what makes the rivalry so great, it is like the civil war. The state and people most closely resembling Oklahoma is Texass and vice versa. Therefore, we hate each other more than those hippie freaks out in Cali kind of like how brothers fight to the death.

Both schools have their good and bad. Just last year, I had great conversations about the game (before and after) with whorn fans in my hotel bar/lobby and the fair food court. I also had encounters with whorn fans who were ready to throw down because I gave them the upside-down sign. (Note: if you are partying in Dallas the night before the RRW and you are wearing burnt orange from head to toe, do not be offended when people give you the loser sign).

In any event, the worst are the chicks. Some drunk coed shoving the hookem in my face (knowing I can't just take her to the ground) ticks me off 10x's worse than the typical whorn loser in his intentionally-scuffed redwing boots. The only fistacuffs I have had in nearly 20 RRW was with an OU fan who was embarrassing me by laying into elderly whorn fans. He gave us all a bad name.

But don't forget, I hate texass.

exactly...

[footballfanatic]

On a slightly lighter note, anyone wanting to see true fan crazies should rent "Football Factory," an English movie about soccer hooligans. Very entertaining.

[footballfanatic]

It's a game... hate keeps the rivalry, theres not a rivalry without hate... You want us to lose we want you to lose...theres a line drawn in the sand... its all for the game dont take everything so serious... and besides i didnt know it was arabs??? i though it was the taliban...

The Taliaban are Arab-founded.

[footballfanatic]

That is what makes the rivalry so great, it is like the civil war. The state and people most closely resembling Oklahoma is Texass and vice versa. Therefore, we hate each other more than those hippie freaks out in Cali kind of like how brothers fight to the death.

Both schools have their good and bad. Just last year, I had great conversations about the game (before and after) with whorn fans in my hotel bar/lobby and the fair food court. I also had encounters with whorn fans who were ready to throw down because I gave them the upside-down sign. (Note: if you are partying in Dallas the night before the RRW and you are wearing burnt orange from head to toe, do not be offended when people give you the loser sign).

In any event, the worst are the chicks. Some drunk coed shoving the hookem in my face (knowing I can't just take her to the ground) ticks me off 10x's worse than the typical whorn loser in his intentionally-scuffed redwing boots. The only fistacuffs I have had in nearly 20 RRW was with an OU fan who was embarrassing me by laying into elderly whorn fans. He gave us all a bad name.

But don't forget, I hate texass.

Great post.

[freshchris05]

The Taliaban are Arab-founded.

the KKK is white founded doesn't mean all whites are in it....

[XingTheRubicon]

the KKK is white founded does it mean all whites are in it....


Yes

[footballfanatic]

the KKK is white founded doesn't mean all whites are in it....

You didn't read my first post, or you would understand that that is exactly my point. Don't hate an entire group of people for the actions of a few knumbskulls.

[freshchris05]

You didn't read my first post, or you would understand that that is exactly my point. Don't hate an entire group of people for the actions of a few knumbskulls.

im just messing with you because of the arab thing... i get what ur saying completely... and if u remeber there was an white taliban member...

[Dio]

I didn't read this whole thread, but I have 2 questions-

1. Herr- name one game in the RRS that the refs gave to OU. Because we can all name at least 2 that were gift wrapped for texass.

2. Why in the hell does KyleUT have positive spek on an OU board?

[Herr Scholz]

1. Herr- name one game in the RRS that the refs gave to OU. Because we can all name at least 2 that were gift wrapped for texass.

A) Go ahead and name them (I'm sure '84 is one of them), and while you're at it, please explain how UT was outpenalized in this game each of the past 4 years if the refs are on our side.

B) I don't blame losses on the refs. Sore losers do that.

[Taxman71]

B) I don't blame losses on the refs. Sore losers do that.

No, the blame usually falls on the wind, the clock and those scary yuppies making monster faces in the tunnel.

[Herr Scholz]

No, the blame usually falls on the wind, the clock and those scary yuppies making monster faces in the tunnel.
Just as wimpy to blame those things, I agree.

And I never made those excuses. Some of Mack's excuses over the years have made me cringe. If you'll look closely, it's some of your fans who are making excuses for losses, not me.

[85Sooner]

Last time I checked. The big 8 did not have a team out of texas and we still recruited pretty well. Those pansies in Tejas wanted to be part of a major conference and now since they have only a couple of big twelve titles in 8 or nine years, they want to re vamp the ole SEC. Funny, I didn't see any teams like miami on their future schedules.