View Full Version : Yankees currently reminding the rest of the league...
they might as well not show up this year, 11-1 in the fourth.
sanantoniosooner
4/3/2006, 10:31 PM
Yankees currently reminding the rest of the league..
that they suck no matter what the final score says.
Scott D
4/3/2006, 11:58 PM
that the A's are a real crappy team in April this year like they are every year.
fixed.
15-1 final, the beatdown of the AL commences. With Thunder gone I guess it's just me, TopDawg, Salt Lake, and Bud as Sooner/Yankee fans.
why does it seem so odd that a person who hates the whorns so much, can love the yankees so much? sac-relig or something...
why does it seem so odd that a person who hates the whorns so much, can love the yankees so much? sac-relig or something...
I don't see the connection.
sanantoniosooner
4/4/2006, 09:00 AM
I don't see the connection.
yankee haters do.:D
It's all about privilige, arrogance, hype etc.
colleyvillesooner
4/4/2006, 09:11 AM
I'm bumping this thread when you guys get bounced from the playoffs.
And save "the Rangers won't even make the playoffs" talk, don't kick a guy when he's down :D
yankee haters do.:D
It's all about privilige, arrogance, hype etc.
yeah, something like that.
TopDawg
4/4/2006, 09:47 AM
yankee haters do.:D
It's all about privilige, arrogance, hype etc.
Yeah but until lately, the Yankees were the only ones backing it all up with championships.
sanantoniosooner
4/4/2006, 10:03 AM
Yeah but until lately, the Yankees were the only ones backing it all up with championships.
When their pitching staff gets paid more than a lot of teams it's to be expected.
Not a level playing field.
TopDawg
4/4/2006, 10:22 AM
They're all playin by the same rules.
sanantoniosooner
4/4/2006, 10:26 AM
BS.
MLB sucks because of the DH and payrolls that triple other teams.
I like watching sport.........not sacrificial lambs.
It's not like the Yankees win the Series every year.
sanantoniosooner
4/4/2006, 10:32 AM
It's not like the Yankees win the Series every year.
MLB is the most predictable of professional sports.
A player gets good.
That player goes to Yankees.
It's not even just against the Yankees. MLB sucks for being structured in a way that the Yankees, Red Sox and Braves,etc. can ALMOST buy a title, and other teams are stuck with farm system to try and compete.
MLB is the most predictable of professional sports.
A player gets good.
That player goes to Yankees.
It's not even just against the Yankees. MLB sucks for being structured in a way that the Yankees, Red Sox and Braves,etc. can ALMOST buy a title, and other teams are stuck with farm system to try and compete.
Actually, Atlanta won last year with a lot of talent developed in their own system, and the Yankees trade many of their excellent prospects for established veterans, in addition to a few free agents. I think the White Sox nurtureda lot of their championship team in their own system.
sanantoniosooner
4/4/2006, 10:43 AM
Actually, Atlanta won last year with a lot of talent developed in their own system, and the Yankees trade many of their excellent prospects for established veterans, in addition to a few free agents. I think the White Sox nurtureda lot of their championship team in their own system.
Yeah, it's possible to succeed without being a top 5 payroll team.
It's more rare these days than than the other way though.
There's a reason other pro sports have salary caps.
GrapevineSooner
4/4/2006, 10:59 AM
There's a reason other pro sports have salary caps.
The other pro sports don't have as powerful a player's union as baseball has.
And as long as it stays that way, the commissioner of baseball will have about the same amount of power as the Mayor of Dallas.
Scott D
4/4/2006, 11:19 AM
Yeah, it's possible to succeed without being a top 5 payroll team.
It's more rare these days than than the other way though.
There's a reason other pro sports have salary caps.
2 of the last 3 world series champions were not top 5 in payroll.
colleyvillesooner
4/4/2006, 11:29 AM
2 of the last 3 world series champions were not top 5 in payroll.
Also:
However, though the team with the game's top payroll did cash that into a World Series victory in 2000 -- Yankees over Mets in five games -- in none of the next five seasons did that happen.
And though big bankrolls certainly give a club an advantage, in the past five years, only one club ranking among the game's top five payrolls has won it all -- the 2004 Red Sox, who ranked second with a $127 million payroll.
http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9345798
I'm a Yankee fan same reason I'm a Sooner fan, both were passed down from my father. He grew up during the Wilkinson and Mantle eras.
sanantoniosooner
4/4/2006, 02:09 PM
Also:
http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9345798
yeah......you've got top 5'ers competing year in and out and teams outside of that putting a decent season together but not usually remaining at the top.
Just because the yankees have choked recently doesn't discount the big money buying championships arguement.
A better arguement would have been the Orioles a few years back. Big money and still sucked.
I'm a Yankee fan same reason I'm a Whorn fan, both were passed down from my father. He grew up during the Royal and Mantle eras.
fixed. ;)
fixed. ;)
Hook 'em :mad: :texan:
:D
15-1 final, the beatdown of the AL commences. With Thunder gone I guess it's just me, TopDawg, Salt Lake, and Bud as Sooner/Yankee fans.
:mad:
TopDawg
4/4/2006, 08:35 PM
I'm a Yankee fan same reason I'm a Sooner fan, both were passed down from my father. He grew up during the Wilkinson and Mantle eras.
Same here, cept my dad doesn't really remember the early part of the Wilkinson era.
I became a Yankee fan when Winfield was there. He's my favorite all-time baseball player.
TopDawg
4/4/2006, 08:37 PM
http://www.ultimateyankees.com/Winfield-SI.jpg
Same here, cept my dad doesn't really remember the early part of the Wilkinson era.
I became a Yankee fan when Winfield was there. He's my favorite all-time baseball player.
I was just old enough to remember Booby Murcer playing, the 76 sweep at the hands of the Big Red Machine, and the Reggie, Billy, and Thurman days. Craig Nettles and Don Mattingly are probably my all-time favorite Yankees.
Salt City Sooner
4/4/2006, 11:26 PM
"Craig Nettles and Don Mattingly are probably my all-time favorite Yankees."
Couldn't have been too much of a favorite. It's Graig. :P ;)
Oh, & my favorites:
Position player
http://www.onlinesports.com/images/phf-aadl003.gif
I've often wondered what his numbers would've looked like had his back held up.
Pitcher
http://www.yesnetwork.com/images/talent_article/guidry_inline0913.jpg
That slider was DEATH.
If I had to pick a favorite game that I've attended, I think it would have to be when the Yanks came to KC, around '84-85ish. We got seats in the first row, almost directly behind home plate, & none other than one Phil Niekro took the mound for New York. That was a RIOT to see those poor saps flailing at that flutterball.
#2 would have to be around '80, when the Yanks trailed KC 4-3 going to the top of the 9th. One on, 2 out, & Reggie coming to the plate when KC brings in Dan Quisenberry. I looked over at Dad & told him I'd bet him 10 bucks that Reggie would crank one because he was such a good low ball hitter. Dad was more than obliging, & 2-3 pitches (& one screaming bomb over the 410 sign) later, Mr. Hamilton met my hand.
BTW, what happened to Thunder?
Couldn't have been too much of a favorite. It's Graig. :P ;)
Thunder was perma-baned for talking ****e, maybe they'll let him back for football season.
I'm not the only one who messes up Nettles' name.
http://cephalogenic.blogspot.com/2005/08/fine-tuning.html
Besides, he pronounces it like a "C" despite the spelling.
Herr Scholz
4/5/2006, 10:30 AM
Pulling for the Yankees is like rooting for the dealer in blackjack. Yes, there's more parity in the major leagues than there used to be, but the Yankees are still playing with a built in advantage every single season. The revenue sharing in MLB is a joke. With a $200M+++ payroll, the Yankees should be winning every year. No wonder "Cashman" is always on the hot seat from Georgie Porgie.
Also, you can't remotely compare MLB to college football. College football has all kinds of parity in comparison.
GrapevineSooner
4/5/2006, 11:08 AM
Marco Scutaro reminds the Yankees that their bullpen could still use a little work. ;)
Herr Scholz
4/5/2006, 11:20 AM
Marco Scutaro reminds the Yankees that their bullpen could still use a little work. ;)
I'm sure they'll just buy Trevor Hoffman or somebody this season...
Who invited the whorn into this conversation?
Since you're here though, by your logic, UT should have 30 or 40 national titles in every sport.
Herr Scholz
4/5/2006, 12:03 PM
Who invited the whorn into this conversation?
Since you're here though, by your logic, UT should have 30 or 40 national titles in every sport.
Like I said, MLB to college football (or any college sport) is apples and oranges. There are any number of college teams that can win in any sport. It's called parity. There are about 4-6 MLB teams that have a realistic shot of winning the World Series. The game's rigged in the Yankees' favor.
Who are your other favorite teams BTW, gdc? The Lakers, Red Wings and New England Patriots I would guess.
Like I said, MLB to college football (or any college sport) is apples and oranges. There are any number of college teams that can win in any sport. It's called parity. There are about 4-6 MLB teams that have a realistic shot of winning the World Series. The game's rigged in the Yankees' favor.
Who are your other favorite teams BTW, gdc? The Lakers, Red Wings and New England Patriots I would guess.
In the NFL the closest thing I have to a favorite is New Orleans. In the NBA and NHL I have no interest whatsoever. Texass fans should be the last to throw around the frontrunner fan label.
I still disagree. It's pretty much the same few college teams that win or finish near the top in most sports each year.
AustinTXHorn
4/5/2006, 02:51 PM
As we saw last night, the Yankees are no match for Huston Street.
Scott D
4/5/2006, 03:00 PM
Like I said, MLB to college football (or any college sport) is apples and oranges. There are any number of college teams that can win in any sport. It's called parity. There are about 4-6 MLB teams that have a realistic shot of winning the World Series. The game's rigged in the Yankees' favor.
Who are your other favorite teams BTW, gdc? The Lakers, Red Wings and New England Patriots I would guess.
Herr that last part was a low blow even for you...Lots of native Oklahomans are Yankee or Reds fans because of either Mantle or Bench..in the case of younger ones now, it's because their fathers/grandfathers/uncles/brothers were fans of those teams growing up so it was an in house thing.
Herr Scholz
4/5/2006, 03:38 PM
Herr that last part was a low blow even for you...Lots of native Oklahomans are Yankee or Reds fans because of either Mantle or Bench..in the case of younger ones now, it's because their fathers/grandfathers/uncles/brothers were fans of those teams growing up so it was an in house thing.
Gotcha.
Herr Scholz
4/5/2006, 03:42 PM
Texass fans should be the last to throw around the frontrunner fan label.
I've been a diehard Longhorn fan since the mid 1980s. Until recently I never saw a major national title up close. I never jumped ship. I'm not saying we didn't gain a bunch of fans this year, but I would submit that all schools have bandwagon fans, even OU.
Heck, I've been a Cubs fan since '84.
Herr that last part was a low blow even for you...Lots of native Oklahomans are Yankee or Reds fans because of either Mantle or Bench..in the case of younger ones now, it's because their fathers/grandfathers/uncles/brothers were fans of those teams growing up so it was an in house thing.
Scott, don't forget there are still lots of Cardinal fans too, from all the years the Tulsa Oilers were their AAA farm team. I watched a lot of the great Cards of the 70's and 80's come through Tulsa.
Herr is just digging his own grave around here.
Scott D
4/5/2006, 04:03 PM
Scott, don't forget there are still lots of Cardinal fans too, from all the years the Tulsa Oilers were their AAA farm team. I watched a lot of the great Cards of the 70's and 80's come through Tulsa.
Herr is just digging his own grave around here.
that makes sense...when I was little (4-6) my favorite team was the Expos because Denver was their AAA affiliate so I saw a few of their players come up and a couple down for conditioning stints. A few years later I became a White Sox fan against the grain of my friends who were all Orioles fans (I was living in MD at the time). My brother was a Yankees fan from the get go because it was the former arch rival of my father's fav team the Giants, and he was a big Winfield fan just like TD was.
Hell I lived in Georgia when the Braves were awful and the running joke was "People are Braves fans waiting for the Falcons season to start. They are Falcons fans waiting for the Hawks season to start, and they are Hawks fans waiting for the Braves season to start."
So Herr, am I bandwagon because I am a Red Wings and Pistons fan? Forget the fact that I've met a lot of former and current players in the time I've lived up here.
Herr Scholz
4/5/2006, 04:06 PM
So Herr, am I bandwagon because I am a Red Wings and Pistons fan? Forget the fact that I've met a lot of former and current players in the time I've lived up here.
I would say if you've lived in a city with pro teams, you can root for them. I have no problem with that. I was just joking about people who pick all front runners as their teams. You know the type.
Scott D
4/5/2006, 04:10 PM
I would say if you've lived in a city with pro teams, you can root for them. I have no problem with that. I was just joking about people who pick all front runners as their teams. You know the type.
yeah, I call them Californians :D
I would say if you've lived in a city with pro teams, you can root for them. I have no problem with that. I was just joking about people who pick all front runners as their teams. You know the type.
"default" team fans, that don't live in that city suck. 90% of them are bandwagon.
yeah, I call them Californians :D
or UT fans
colleyvillesooner
4/6/2006, 09:29 AM
Cause the Yankees lost again? :D
"default" team fans, that don't live in that city suck. 90% of them are bandwagon.
Scooter?
damn. The A's are good.
and the yankees? well..........
Herr Scholz
4/6/2006, 10:36 AM
What's the ROI on a team with a $206M payroll losing 2 of 3 to a team with a $56M payroll? :D Where's that extra $150M going?
And I think the Devil Rays have a real shot this year with their $30M payroll.
1. New York Yankees $205,938,439
2. Boston Red Sox $121,311,945
3. New York Mets $104,770,139
4. Philadelphia Phillies $95,337,908
5. Los Angeles Angels $95,017,822
6. St. Louis Cardinals $93,319,842
7. San Francisco Giants $89,487,842
8. Chicago Cubs $87,210,933
9. Seattle Mariners $85,883,333
10. Atlanta Braves $85,148,582
11. Los Angeles Dodgers $81,029,500
12. Houston Astros $76,779,022
13. Chicago White Sox $75,228,000
14. Baltimore Orioles $74,570,539
15. Detroit Tigers $68,998,183
16. Arizona Diamondbacks $63,015,834
17. San Diego Padres $62,888,192
18. Florida Marlins $60,375,961
19. Cincinnati Reds $59,658,275
20. Minnesota Twins $56,615,000
21. Oakland Athletics $55,869,262
22. Texas Rangers $55,307,258
23. Washington Nationals $48,581,500
24. Colorado Rockies $47,789,000
25. Toronto Blue Jays $45,336,500
26. Cleveland Indians $41,830,400
27. Milwaukee Brewers $40,234,833
28. Pittsburgh Pirates $38,138,000
29. Kansas City Royals $36,881,000
30. Tampa Bay Devil Rays $29,893,567
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/8365156
BTW, you may know this, but that is the 2005 payroll. Isn't it a lot higher now for the yanks?
colleyvillesooner
4/6/2006, 11:37 AM
Nope, it's lower:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2397618
Team Payroll Average
Yankees $198,662,180 $7,095,078
Red Sox $120,100,524 $4,448,168
Angels $103,625,333 $4,145,013
White Sox $102,875,667 $3,956,756
Mets $100,901,085 $3,880,811
Dodgers $99,176,950 $3,673,220
Cubs $94,841,167 $3,387,185
Astros $92,551,503 $3,559,673
Braves $92,461,852 $3,188,340
Giants $90,862,063 $3,634,483
Cardinals $88,441,218 $3,401,585
Mariners $88,324,500 $3,397,096
Phillies $88,273,333 $3,269,383
Tigers $82,302,069 $3,048,225
Orioles $72,585,713 $2,592,347
Blue Jays $71,915,000 $2,663,519
Padres $69,725,179 $2,490,185
Rangers $65,468,130 $2,111,875
Twins $63,810,048 $2,454,233
Nationals $63,267,500 $2,108,917
Athletics $62,322,054 $2,492,882
Reds $59,489,015 $2,124,608
Diamondbacks $59,221,226 $2,277,739
Indians $56,795,867 $2,271,835
Brewers $56,790,000 $2,271,600
Royals $47,294,000 $1,630,828
Pirates $46,867,750 $1,673,848
Rockies $41,133,000 $1,371,100
Devil Rays $35,417,967 $1,264,927
Marlins $14,998,500 $576,865
THE MARLINS ARE AT $14 Million!?
yep. they are going to San Antonio. Big mistake IMO, they should be going to Vegas.
colleyvillesooner
4/6/2006, 11:58 AM
5 Yankees each make more the the Marlins.
How much more do UT players make than other "student/athletes" in the form of plasma TVs, Escalades, and minor-league baseball contracts?
TopDawg
4/6/2006, 02:25 PM
BTW, you may know this, but that is the 2005 payroll. Isn't it a lot higher now for the yanks?
All y'all had to do was go here: http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66139
to find out.
Herr Scholz
4/6/2006, 03:57 PM
How much more do UT players make than other "student/athletes" in the form of plasma TVs, Escalades, and minor-league baseball contracts?
Minor league baseball contracts aren't illegal. Ricky and Ced both made their own money doing this.
Minor league baseball contracts aren't illegal. Ricky and Ced both made their own money doing this.
two words: Tom Hicks
Herr Scholz
4/6/2006, 04:02 PM
two words: Tom Hicks
Ced played for the Dodgers. He bought his plasma and BMW with Dodger money. I suppose there's some burnt orange/Dodger blue conspiracy too?
All Ricky ever did with his money in college was put his sisters through school and help support his mother.
Herr Scholz
4/6/2006, 04:03 PM
Anyway, stop changing the subject. We were talking about how the Yankees have an unfair advantage with their $200M payroll and they suck anyway. :D
All Ricky ever did with his money in college was put his sisters through school and help support his mother.
and keep Austin drug dealers busy and rich
TopDawg
4/8/2006, 12:36 AM
One of these days you people will realize the power of the jinx.
I don't know how many times I've tried to get the point through to you and you still keep doing it.
Salt City Sooner
4/10/2006, 07:38 AM
I'd have been a little more concerned with this start had it been the pitching that was the cause of it, but that's not been the case. They have yet to give up more than 4 earned runs in any game. It's been the bats that haven't cranked it up yet, & there's NO way that stays status quo for the year.
TopDawg
4/12/2006, 03:40 PM
I'm glad I got us unjinxed by calling out that last jinx.
I think I should be on the payroll too.
Scott D
4/12/2006, 04:57 PM
heh...one could say playing a team that went a combined 1-15 in the Bronx, Chicago, and Tampa last season for your home opening series is kinda helpful.
TopDawg
4/12/2006, 08:44 PM
Tampa? Don't mention them!
sanantoniosooner
4/12/2006, 08:48 PM
go YANKEES!!!!!
jinx
jinx
jinx
GreaterState
4/12/2006, 10:04 PM
Yeah but until lately, the Yankees were the only ones backing it all up with championships.
I had to call out this "lately," since the last time the Yankees won the series was 2000. That was six long years (and more important, a billion dollars in payroll) ago ...
sanantoniosooner
4/12/2006, 10:12 PM
I had to call out this "lately," since the last time the Yankees won the series was 2000. That was six long years (and more important, a billion dollars in payroll) ago ...
uh......he said "until lately".
GreaterState
4/12/2006, 10:37 PM
uh......he said "until lately".
Yeah, I get that, but since this thread started talking about how payroll makes the Yankees a foregone conclusion, it's worth pointing out that the Bombers haven't won any world titles lately. Not the best comparison.
sanantoniosooner
4/12/2006, 10:39 PM
Top payroll doesn't imply chemistry, but it does give a major advantage.
sanantoniosooner
4/13/2006, 08:31 AM
jinx
nicely donehttp://www.soonerfans.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif
TopDawg
4/13/2006, 12:59 PM
I had to call out this "lately," since the last time the Yankees won the series was 2000. That was six long years (and more important, a billion dollars in payroll) ago ...
Uhm, "until lately" the last time UT won a national title in football was 40+ long years ago. You really want to compare the success of the two?
Salt City Sooner
4/13/2006, 01:00 PM
When have the Yanks played Florida? ;)
9-3 Yanks today, man I love day games at Yankee Stadium. Wish I was there.
royalfan5
4/13/2006, 04:16 PM
I'm just happy that Bautista looked like a Big League pitcher today.
Salt City Sooner
4/13/2006, 05:46 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what the heck that ump was looking at on that Damon HR. I may be a Yank fan to the nth degree, but even I can admit that the pitch before he launched was SOOOOO strike 3.
GreaterState
4/14/2006, 07:32 AM
Uhm, "until lately" the last time UT won a national title in football was 40+ long years ago. You really want to compare the success of the two?
Right, let me rephrase so my point comes through clearer.
"Lately," meaning in this millennium, only one of those teams has been tasting a world championship, and it's not the Yankees.
Being this is the general forum, this was not so much a pro-Horns point as it was a strong anti-Yankees point.
sanantoniosooner
4/14/2006, 08:13 AM
Right, let me rephrase so my point comes through clearer.
"Lately," meaning in this millennium, only one of those teams has been tasting a world championship, and it's not the Yankees.
Being this is the general forum, this was not so much a pro-Horns point as it was a strong anti-Yankees point.
Well........you just remember this is a GENERAL forum and it will be ALL RIGHT
We're watching you though.........
jmvac97
4/19/2006, 08:46 PM
7-7 with 11 of 14 games on the road, some on the west coast.
7-7 with 11 of 14 games on the road, some on the west coast.
Good call, jmvac97, it's all downhill from here.
6-1 Yanks back to .500 again
Scott D
4/23/2006, 10:12 AM
yeah and that makes them what? 2-8 at night this season?
yeah and that makes them what? 2-8 at night this season?
7-0 in the day, 1-8 at night, that's wack
Salt City Sooner
4/23/2006, 04:07 PM
Johnson looked awfully sharp today. 1 run on 3 hits over 8 innings, 94 pitches. Giambi went 3 for 4 with 2 jacks & a two run shift-burning double into the left field corner off the wall. The only out he made was an absolute ROCKET to Millar at 1B that turned into an unassisted DP. JG entered the game w/ a .516 on base % & did nothing to hurt it.
TopDawg
4/23/2006, 08:59 PM
Right, let me rephrase so my point comes through clearer.
"Lately," meaning in this millennium, only one of those teams has been tasting a world championship, and it's not the Yankees.
That's all fine and dandy, but your point has nothing to do with my original point, to wit, the Longhorn football fans, until lately, had no championships to hang their arrogance on, unlike Yankee fans. Sure, the Yankees have been going through a bit of a drought, but ***until latel*** the Longhorn drought was about 6.5 times longer.
So while you did make a point *applause* it had nothing to do with what I was saying.
GreaterState
4/24/2006, 06:03 AM
That's all fine and dandy, but your point has nothing to do with my original point, to wit, the Longhorn football fans, until lately, had no championships to hang their arrogance on, unlike Yankee fans. Sure, the Yankees have been going through a bit of a drought, but ***until latel*** the Longhorn drought was about 6.5 times longer.
So while you did make a point *applause* it had nothing to do with what I was saying.
Yankees suck.
JohnnyMack
4/24/2006, 09:22 AM
I hate the Yankees and hope they lose every game they play between now and 2067.
TopDawg
4/24/2006, 09:32 AM
Yankees suck.
See, this would've been a lot easier if you would've just realized you didn't have anything worthwhile to say and written that in your first post.
GreaterState
4/24/2006, 05:01 PM
See, this would've been a lot easier if you would've just realized you didn't have anything worthwhile to say and written that in your first post.
?! What's not worthwhile about pointing out that the Yankees shouldn't be your choice to give championship lessons to the Horns? That's what the thread's about, not your hatred of the national champs.
If you weren't just trying to pick a fight, you'd see that I was responding to your subtext, which was that the Yankees are a championship team. Their mythology is so strong, regular people like yourself almost forget that the Longhorns are champions today and the Yanks haven't been, this millennium. I know what your text meant; gee, I just don't know if anybody on this site knew that the Horns hadn't won the title until lately :rolleyes:
The fact remains:
http://www.yankee-hater.com/yankeehater/images/YS%20POSTER%20YH%20AD%20mini.jpg
TopDawg
4/24/2006, 08:40 PM
?! What's not worthwhile about pointing out that the Yankees shouldn't be your choice to give championship lessons to the Horns? That's what the thread's about, not your hatred of the national champs.
Here comes that longhorn arrogance that started us down this road. One national title in 40 years and now the longhorns know more about national championships than the Yankees. In 11 years as a Yankee, Derek Jeter has been crowned champ as many times as Texas has in 100+ years as a football program.
If you weren't just trying to pick a fight, you'd see that I was responding to your subtext, which was that the Yankees are a championship team.
If you weren't so slow to comprehend, you'd see that my context (forget subtext) is that, UNTIL LATELY, the Yankees were the only one of the two that could be considered a championship program.
Their mythology is so strong, regular people like yourself almost forget that the Longhorns are champions today
If I'd've forgotten that, I wouldn't have said "until lately."
and the Yanks haven't been, this millennium.
Now you're playing the same game you longhorns hate us for playing. The "let me define the years I want to count as important" game.
Scott D
4/24/2006, 08:45 PM
Yankees 9-8, tied for 3rd in their division....
So they are reminding the rest of the league that they are still mediocre?
TopDawg
4/24/2006, 08:50 PM
This is a better start than last year's division champs got off to.
Scott D
4/24/2006, 08:53 PM
This is a better start than last year's division champs got off to.
s'alright....my team is sitting at that nice little 13-5 record after starting 1-4 :)
TopDawg
4/24/2006, 08:58 PM
s'alright....my team is sitting at that nice little 13-5 record after starting 1-4 :)
We need to be more economical with our runs.
CWS: 107 RS, 73 RA, 13-5
NYY: 106 RS, 71 RA, 9-8
Scott D
4/24/2006, 09:01 PM
We need to be more economical with our runs.
CWS: 107 RS, 73 RA, 13-5
NYY: 106 RS, 71 RA, 9-8
well it helps that
The eight-game win streak has seen the White Sox hit .323 with 14 home runs, including four in Sunday's 7-3 victory over Minnesota.
and something the Yankees haven't had
The pitching staff has been even more impressive in the eight-game surge, allowing a total of just 13 runs while posting a 1.59 ERA and a .186 opponent batting average.
Other than his first start Contreras has been NASTY. He gave up I believe 3 hits in his last two starts and 1 run in those as well.
TopDawg
4/24/2006, 09:07 PM
Other than his first start Contreras has been NASTY.
It all comes back to the Yankees. ;)
Scott D
4/24/2006, 09:14 PM
It all comes back to the Yankees. ;)
only if I ask how Loiaza has been working out for you guys ;)
TopDawg
4/24/2006, 09:16 PM
His ERA for the Yankees is even lower than Contreras' for the Sox...
this year.
Scott D
4/24/2006, 09:18 PM
His ERA for the Yankees is even lower than Contreras' for the Sox...
this year.
heh, good one ;)
TopDawg
4/24/2006, 09:20 PM
I have to laugh to keep from crying.
Scott D
4/24/2006, 09:43 PM
I can understand that.....Ken Williams has proven to be the real deal when it comes to being a very shrewd GM.
GreaterState
4/24/2006, 10:16 PM
longhorn arrogance that started us down this road
LOL, no, what started us on this road is that every one of your posts up to this one, in a baseball thread, somehow were about putting down the football team some (most?) of you are obsessed with. But I'll move on, let you explain to gdc why you took his/her Yankee thread and made him/her think even more about the orange neighbors to the south.
For my part, I'll say again what I said before the season: The Yanks are going to win a lot of games, maybe win the East, but they are still not built to win the key postseason series -- same as for many years now. And there is a larger point there about payroll and its effect on winning and parity.
Scott D
4/24/2006, 10:20 PM
LOL, no, what started us on this road is that every one of your posts up to this one, in a baseball thread, somehow were about putting down the football team some (most?) of you are obsessed with. But I'll move on, let you explain to gdc why you took his/her Yankee thread and made him/her think even more about the orange neighbors to the south.
For my part, I'll say again what I said before the season: The Yanks are going to win a lot of games, maybe win the East, but they are still not built to win the key postseason series -- same as for many years now. And there is a larger point there about payroll and its effect on winning and parity.
trust me, gdc doesn't need any other reasons to think hateful thoughts about the prissies in austin.
GreaterState
4/24/2006, 10:21 PM
trust me, gdc doesn't need any other reasons to think hateful thoughts about the prissies in austin.
Exactly. gdc is often in a lather and the reason is usually because another Sooner started a thread about Texas. I know I'm not starting them.
TopDawg
4/25/2006, 10:10 AM
LOL, no, what started us on this road is that every one of your posts up to this one, in a baseball thread, somehow were about putting down the football team some (most?) of you are obsessed with.
Or I could've been praising my favorite baseball team while you were putting down a baseball team that some (most?) of you are obsessed with. There are two ways to look at it. Neither one of them is the only right way.
Look dude, I took a stab at your football team on my football team's message board by praising my favorite baseball team in a thread that is about my favorite baseball team. But because of your hatred for the Yankees you misunderstood what I was saying, got all bent out of shape, and yet somehow I'm the one who is consumed with hatred and stirring up trouble.
OK
TopDawg
4/26/2006, 10:29 AM
\/\/00+!
Salt City Sooner
4/27/2006, 01:38 PM
The thing that absolutely floors me is that a team can send Pedro Martinez out to the mound vs. NY, & they'll just beat the crap out of him, yet, when they face a Seth McClung, they make him look like Cy McYoung. It's like clockwork.
As for Mo, I can't put the blame on him for last night because it should've never come to that. TB walks 14 Yankees which results in all of 2 runs (& they wouldn't have gotten a freakin' THING had Sheff not cranked a bomb)? Flat out inexcusable, period. :mad:
TopDawg
4/27/2006, 01:43 PM
I think Aaron Boone was the last Yankee to get a clutch hit.
Scott D
4/27/2006, 01:52 PM
why are you guys upset? it was a night game :P
I'm going to have to break down and get the season pass to actually see a game this year.:mad:
GreaterState
4/27/2006, 06:33 PM
There must be some kind of weird Okie-Yankee connection I don't know about, because the SportsNation poll right now is about which park is better, Fenway or Yankee Stadium ... and only two states are colored blue; guess which ones.
On the bottom of http://espn.go.com/mlb
There must be some kind of weird Okie-Yankee connection I don't know about, because the SportsNation poll right now is about which park is better, Fenway or Yankee Stadium ... and only two states are colored blue; guess which ones.
On the bottom of http://espn.go.com/mlb
Mickey Mantle
Yankees win 4-1, Chacon looked good.
TopDawg
4/27/2006, 09:53 PM
The sad thing is that 2 out of 3 from the D-Rays is an improvement over last year.
Salt City Sooner
4/27/2006, 10:38 PM
Yankees win 4-1, Chacon looked good.
Furthermore, only Chien getting hosed by a bad call in his start vs. Baltimore keeps it from being 7 quality starts in a row.
Remember this time last year when Jeter was supposedly washed up? He's hitting .408 right now.
Scott D
4/28/2006, 12:28 PM
having been to yankee stadium I can certify that it was a dump...at least in 1984
Salt City Sooner
4/28/2006, 12:34 PM
Remember this time last year when Jeter was supposedly washed up? He's hitting .408 right now.
Ditto Giambi (remember NY wanting to send him to the minors last May?). .327 BA, 21 RBI (tied for 3rd in A.L.) .808 slugging pct. (2nd in the A.L.), & a MLB leading .544 on base pct. None too shabby a rebound, IMO.
having been to yankee stadium I can certify that it was a dump...at least in 1984
I went two years ago and it was far from a dump, did the stadium tour including the dugouts and clubhouse. The Bronx neighborhood around it, however, is a different story.
Scott D
4/28/2006, 01:41 PM
I went two years ago and it was far from a dump, did the stadium tour including the dugouts and clubhouse. The Bronx neighborhood around it, however, is a different story.
well yeah but in 84 the Yankees were like the 3rd or 4th best team in the AL East (Detroit and Toronto being the class, with Baltimore not far behind). George wasn't spending like he is now back then. And I still find the ultimate irony for the one game I went there was the game winner was a 3 run shot by Reggie Jackson for the California Angels. :D
can't say much about the surrounding Bronx other than it's lit up like a christmas tree at night and looks bombed out during the day.
Salt City Sooner
4/29/2006, 12:43 AM
Leave it up to Wright to put a screeching halt to the quality start streak. I was SOOO against ditching Lieber for him.... :mad:
AustinTXHorn
4/29/2006, 01:14 AM
I went two years ago and it was far from a dump, did the stadium tour including the dugouts and clubhouse. The Bronx neighborhood around it, however, is a different story.
I went last summer and couldn't figure out why everybody calls it a dump. I loved the place and didn't see much wrong with it. Also got to do the tour, but they wouldn't let us in the clubhouse since it was during a homestand.
I was surprised I didn't get shot while walking through that neighborhood.
I'm pretty sure that hearing Bob Sheppard's voice in person was one of the best baseball experiences I've had.
I went last summer and couldn't figure out why everybody calls it a dump. I loved the place and didn't see much wrong with it. Also got to do the tour, but they wouldn't let us in the clubhouse since it was during a homestand.
I was surprised I didn't get shot while walking through that neighborhood.
I'm pretty sure that hearing Bob Sheppard's voice in person was one of the best baseball experiences I've had.
My dad wanted to do a walking tour of the Bronx, fortunately we talked him out of it. I think they have approved new stadiums for both the Yankees and the Mets.
Yankees beat Chacin 4-1, roll into the Boston series in first.
Five questions with Aaron Small
Hurler looks back at last year's 10-0 record, forward to '06
By Mark Feinsand / MLB.com
BOSTON -- Aaron Small made his season debut on Monday night after missing all of April with a hamstring injury.
Small, who compiled a 10-0 record in 2005, took his first regular-season loss in the game against the Red Sox, ending any chance of another undefeated season.
The pitcher took some time to answer some questions on Tuesday, looking at his magical run last season and what lies ahead for him in 2006.
MLB.com: Did the last month seem like a long time for you, being away from the team?
Small: Being in Tampa, watching the games, seeing highlights, it was killing me knowing I wasn't with my team. When they broke camp, it all set in that I was staying back. I didn't want to be there, but I worked hard and got stronger. It was a month, and I'm glad it wasn't any longer than that.
MLB.com: Is your arm strength back where you need it to be?
Small: Over the years, I've learned my body, and I throw harder as the year goes on. My arm strength gets better. It used to worry me, but that's just how my body is, and it's been that way for the last eight or 10 years. I've tried throwing earlier in the offseason, tried throwing more bullpens, but it's always the same. Once I get stretched out, I get stronger.
MLB.com: After going 10-0 last season, you took your first loss in your first game. Did you think about that?
Small: You can't go undefeated forever. That's nonsense to think you can do that. It was unfortunate that I took the loss in my first game back, but most importantly because my team lost. I was a big part of that loss, but you have to be able to shake it off and go to the next game. It's just the way the game is.
MLB.com: Even though you know you can't go undefeated forever, did you reflect on it a lot during the offseason?
Small: I thought about it a lot. I did a lot of public speaking and appearances, talked to a lot of groups, which let me reflect on what happened. I soaked it in during the offseason, because I didn't do that last year. Now it's over, it's a memory, it's last year. This is a new year.
MLB.com: How different is it for you to be with the team this year, knowing that you have a set role on the staff?
Small: It's nice. Last year, I didn't put much pressure on myself, because there wasn't much expected from me when I got here. This year, it's the same thing. Pressure is only what you put on yourself. I'm on the team now and have a guaranteed contract, but I don't want to put pressure on myself to do more. I have to do what I can do, because when you try to do more than you're capable of, you get in trouble. It's nice knowing I'm part of this team..
Back in first place, beyotches.
Scott D
5/4/2006, 03:46 PM
Jose Contreras 5 - 0 1.41
:D
I just realized last night I have the YES network on DirecTV, but then it shut off when the game started.:mad:
http://www.mashby.com/images/posts/broom.gif
Scott D
5/7/2006, 05:54 PM
I just realized last night I have the YES network on DirecTV, but then it shut off when the game started.:mad:
yep....gotta have the season ticket or whatever they call it.
Hah! Schilling gives up three homers. The Moose is 6-1, must be a contract year.
Herr Scholz
5/11/2006, 12:28 PM
Hah! Schilling gives up three homers. The Moose is 6-1, must be a contract year.
Yeah, but this guy got shelled and booed mercilessly by the Bronx faithful.
http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/RJ_DV_NYY_BDD.jpg
http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/BDD_5.9_RJ_reu.jpg
http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/BDD_5.9_NYtab.jpg
Ouch, no Matsui for 3 months.
Yanks win, now 12-0 in day games. Starters are 13-2 in last 18 games.
TopDawg
5/13/2006, 10:24 PM
Yeah, but this guy got shelled and booed mercilessly by the Bronx faithful.
Worse than Chris Simms got booed by Horn fans?
Yanks finally lose a day game.:mad:
Herr Scholz
5/15/2006, 10:33 AM
Worse than Chris Simms got booed by Horn fans?
C'mon, we can be merciless but we're not as brutal as disgrunteld Yankee fans in the Bronx. ;)
GreaterState
5/16/2006, 09:36 AM
Scott Erickson? (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=2341) Really?
How a team that projects as one of the best in baseball can get continue to get away with hiring guys like this for the big roster is a bit of a mystery to me...
Salt City Sooner
5/16/2006, 10:18 PM
Start spreadinnnnn the news........
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260516110
AustinTXHorn
5/16/2006, 11:24 PM
I want to punch all of you in the face.
Doesn't look like the Tigers can hang with the big boys yet.
TopDawg
6/1/2006, 09:30 PM
C'mon, we can be merciless but we're not as brutal as disgrunteld Yankee fans in the Bronx. ;)
True. But you're also not as exalting.
TopDawg
6/1/2006, 09:36 PM
Doesn't look like the Tigers can hang with the big boys yet.
Again with the jinx. I'm starting to believe you're not really a Yankees fan.
Again with the jinx. I'm starting to believe you're not really a Yankees fan.
First place feels good, especially considering all the injuries. Mo hurt his back putting his spikes on, for chrissakes.
Yanks 13 Red Sux 5
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
TopDawg
6/5/2006, 10:12 PM
That was fun.
TAKE THAT, YOU F*CKIN' RETAHHHHDS!!! :D
Yanks crush the Red Sux, Cubs thump the 'stros, and OU sends Uncle Gene packing. That's a pretty f*ckin' sweet night of baseball. ;)
Sooner95
6/6/2006, 06:54 AM
hehe yea, that was a thumping. Simply enjoying the young Yankee players that have come up in the past 3 weeks doing so well. Been awhile since that farm system produced anything.
TAKE THAT, YOU F*CKIN' RETAHHHHDS!!! :D
Yanks crush the Red Sux, Cubs thump the 'stros, and OU sends Uncle Gene packing. That's a pretty f*ckin' sweet night of baseball. ;)
ESPN jinxed Zambrano's no-no, the bastards.
Feh, ZAMBRANO jinxes Zambrano. :D
GrapevineSooner
6/6/2006, 09:33 AM
:rolleyes:
Congrats on evening the season series at 4-4. :D
TopDawg
6/6/2006, 03:18 PM
Simply enjoying the young Yankee players that have come up in the past 3 weeks doing so well. Been awhile since that farm system produced anything.
My thoughts exactly. I like the young talent.
:rolleyes:
Congrats on evening the season series at 4-4. :D
Congrats on being in second place. :D
;)
:mad: Hook 'em
Congrats on being in second place. :D
;)
by 1 and 1/2 games as of tonight :D BOOYAH:D
I believe that calls for a "heh".
Heh.
Salt City Sooner
6/6/2006, 10:50 PM
One of the better pitched games of the year. Wang looked very good, & Pauley had nothing to hang his head about either, esp. for it being his first time to pitch in the Stadium. Other than Melky climbing the wall to rob Ramirez, my favorite moment from this one was Farnsworth vs. Ortiz. That was pure "here it is big boy, I don't think you can catch up." Heck, had the Yanks been up by more than 1, I'd almost like to have seen Ortiz turn that 98 mph gas around just to see how far it would've gone.
I'd like to see Ortiz and Farnsworth throw down some time.
Herr Scholz
6/7/2006, 10:23 AM
I'd like to see Ortiz and Farnsworth throw down some time.
I'd take Ortiz and give you 10:1 odds on that one.
I'd take Ortiz and give you 10:1 odds on that one.
Farnsworth would tear Big Poopie several new ones simultaneously.
Herr Scholz
6/8/2006, 04:12 PM
Farnsworth would tear Big Poopie several new ones simultaneously.
LOL. Not hardly. You just don't like Papi because he was part of causing your team's biggest choke job in the history of the sport.
BTW, did you see you lost yet another outfielder for the duration of the Summer? Losing 1st place is only a matter of time.
Yankees GM Brian Cashman said Thursday that Sheffield will have surgery on his injured wrist and is expected to be out until at least September. Cashman said the injury is not career- or season-ending.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2475897
It's all good, we're getting Soriano and/or Junior.
birddog
6/15/2006, 12:22 AM
you guys obsess over a bunch of fat guys a little too much. we can't even win a real "world series". a game we invented. we finally get a real world series and bow out in classic fashion to mexico. MEXICO!!
"Indians starter Jason Johnson couldn't equal The Big Unit in a matchup of Johnson vs. Johnson"
:eek:
GrapevineSooner
6/21/2006, 01:42 PM
Can the Yankees play National League teams the rest of the year? :D
Herr Scholz
6/27/2006, 11:54 AM
BTW, did you see you lost yet another outfielder for the duration of the Summer? Losing 1st place is only a matter of time.
Like I said. 2nd place now. Yanks have only managed a 12-11 record in June so far.
I'd say that's pretty damn good given all the injuries. Any other team would be out of it by now.
Herr Scholz
6/27/2006, 01:59 PM
That's true. Wait, A-Rod just made another error. ;)
and batting a robust .277, and only .213 in June
Herr Scholz
6/27/2006, 02:08 PM
A-Rod is to championships what Ann Coulter is to burgers.
Scott D
6/27/2006, 02:30 PM
anyone else amused by a Cubs fan taunting people about championships?
Herr just amuses us in general.
Herr Scholz
6/27/2006, 02:36 PM
anyone else amused by a Cubs fan taunting people about championships?
Although I'm a national league guy, and the Cubs do indeed suck, I like to pull for the Red Sox and against the Yankees whenever possible.
GrapevineSooner
6/27/2006, 02:40 PM
I'd say that's pretty damn good given all the injuries. Any other team would be out of it by now.
I don't think too many other teams have the depth the Yankees do.
So there's a reason just about any other team would be out of it by now. ;)
I don't think too many other teams have the depth the Yankees do.
So there's a reason just about any other team would be out of it by now. ;)
Andy Phillips
Melky Cabrera
Miguel Cairo
Bubba Crosby
I don't think they're in danger of being labeled the new Bronx Bombers.:D
Scott D
6/27/2006, 03:41 PM
Although I'm a national league guy, and the Cubs do indeed suck, I like to pull for the Red Sox and against the Yankees whenever possible.
Ironically I'm enjoying the fall of the Braves.
Herr Scholz
6/27/2006, 03:51 PM
Ironically I'm enjoying the fall of the Braves.
Haven't minded that one myself either. Bobby "I get drunk and hit my wife" Cox.
That's true. Wait, A-Rod just made another error. ;)
Yeah, but I'd say the walk-off game-winning home run made up for it.:D
colleyvillesooner
6/28/2006, 07:30 PM
Yeah, but I'd say the walk-off game-winning home run made up for it.:D
Yeah, but it was the Braves it took 12 to beat. :D
GrapevineSooner
6/28/2006, 09:06 PM
Too bad you didn't gain any ground on the Red Sox. ;)
a-rod grand slam and a three run jack 16-7 good guys
colleyvillesooner
7/5/2006, 11:13 AM
Indians rout Yankees 19-1 on Steinbrenner's birthday
:D
Meanwhile, the Rangers continue to suck *** at .500.:rolleyes:
Meanwhile, the Rangers continue to suck *** at .500.:rolleyes:
yes, but isn't that expected? :rolleyes:
TeamMother
7/5/2006, 12:55 PM
I got an idea. Rangers fire control freak manager and hire laid back mediocre "just let the boys play" kinda guy. Just like the yankees did. Hey, it's the same guy!
colleyvillesooner
7/5/2006, 01:59 PM
I got an idea. Rangers fire control freak manager and hire laid back mediocre "just let the boys play" kinda guy. Just like the yankees did. Hey, it's the same guy!
Agreed.
Well paybacks are nasty little bitches to the tune of 9-1 so far.
Salt City Sooner
7/6/2006, 11:58 AM
Sure wish we could have a few more injuries....don't think we've had enough yet. :mad:
no kidding, it doesn't get much worse. At least the starting pitching has been reasonable.
AustinTXHorn
7/9/2006, 05:39 AM
With all of these youngsters in and out of the Yankee 'pen, I'm hoping to see J. Brent Cox in there by the end of the season.
Kurkjian and Herschiser say the Yanks won't even make the playoffs.
sanantoniosooner
7/12/2006, 08:47 PM
hey.........this is cool...........
click on the first page and read the top post........
and then click to the last page and read the top post.
If you are set for 20 posts/page that is.
sanantoniosooner
7/12/2006, 10:26 PM
The yankees went from incredible to suck.
It only took 11 pages.
:D
Well, if suck is second place in the east, with the fourth best record in the league, after all the injuries, then I guess so.
sanantoniosooner
7/13/2006, 06:10 PM
Well........you have to keep in mind that the Yankees suck no matter where they are in the standings.
;)
They may suck but they gave Contreras his first loss of the year tonight.
Salt City Sooner
7/14/2006, 09:24 PM
What I want to know is why in the SNOT couldn't he have pitched like he has the past couple of years while he was still in pinstripes? Between he & Kenny Rogers, well, I'll just be nice & say :mad: .
Scott D
7/15/2006, 10:08 AM
first loss was bound to happen, despite Rivera's efforts to make it a no decision.
SCS, probably because Stottlemyre was overrated as a pitching coach. If the Yanks had ever gotten Contreras to pitch sidearm instead of overhanded or 3/4 he'd have been pitching a lot better there.
first loss was bound to happen, despite Rivera's efforts to make it a no decision.
SCS, probably because Stottlemyre was overrated as a pitching coach. If the Yanks had ever gotten Contreras to pitch sidearm instead of overhanded or 3/4 he'd have been pitching a lot better there.
I agree, Stottlemyre was Torre's boy, and that's about it.
Yanks pound chisox today 14-3, only one game out as I type this.
Go A's.
Salt City Sooner
7/16/2006, 01:07 AM
first loss was bound to happen, despite Rivera's efforts to make it a no decision.
SCS, probably because Stottlemyre was overrated as a pitching coach. If the Yanks had ever gotten Contreras to pitch sidearm instead of overhanded or 3/4 he'd have been pitching a lot better there.
I prefer to call it the Ghost of Ed Whitson.....;)
Salt City Sooner
7/16/2006, 07:34 PM
SCHWEEP!
BudSooner
7/17/2006, 10:26 AM
Mariano gets his 400th save, say what you will but this guy deserves his props.
If the rest of the boys get healthy and the Unit gets into a groove, watch out.
Scott D
7/17/2006, 10:48 AM
meh the only thing that sucks more than getting swept by y'all is the tigers winning 3 of 4 against the AL bottom feeders.
I have my doubts about Garcia being around by the end of the month. Rumor was that we were packaging him in a deal to get Andruw Jones, but since the Braves have started winning games and are close to the wildcard, who knows.
GrapevineSooner
7/17/2006, 03:33 PM
Kinda off topic...
Curt Schilling (aka Gehrig38) discusses stuff with Yankee fans (http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?t=94438&page=289).
Including what it was like to first come up to the majors.
Baseball has evolved with society over that period of time imo. No more "old school' lessons in the clubhouse. Rookies, some, come up and get free reign, which I PROMISE you never happned. My first minute in a big league clubhouse, I walk in, no one in the lockerroom in seattle but me, a clubhouse guy, and mickey tettleton. I stop, look across the lockerroom at him, he looks up, and drops "What the ................ are you looking at you rookie bitch!"
Ya, times have changed
Salt City Sooner
7/17/2006, 06:33 PM
You know you've got a tough road ahead when your first encounter with another big league player is with an aggie. :P
Herr Scholz
7/26/2006, 09:05 AM
Has E-Rod stopped going Chuck Knoblauch/Steve Sax yet? I liked how he won the game for the Yankees last Wed. (I think) on a walkoff homer and then the following game on Friday he got booed by the Yankee fans after making an out on his first at bat. Made me chuckle.
They say it's all in his footwork.
Herr Scholz
7/26/2006, 02:24 PM
I'd actually be pulling for the guy if he weren't a Yankee. I don't know how you do it, gdc. Pulling for the Yankees seems to me like pulling for the dealer in blackjack or pulling for Donald Trump to win the lotto.
Herr, I told you before, I was ten years old in 75, just old enough to begin appreciating and understanding sports, and the Yanks were coming on, the Big Red Machine was about to decline, and the Sooners were winning mnc's. Plus my dad liked OU for obvious reasons, and the Yanks because of Mantle. I really don't have favorite teams in any other league or level, except sort of the Saints. I stuck with the Yanks through the mid 80s and up into the 90s, and of course you know about Sooner football in the 90s.
I also meant to say that for $25 million/year I could block out boos all day.
Herr Scholz
7/26/2006, 02:36 PM
I also meant to say that for $25 million/year I could block out boos all day.
That's true. I don't feel so bad for him now.
Monday's game was "not available in my area". I recently got DirecTV, that sucks.:mad:
soonerjoker
7/27/2006, 07:32 AM
don't blame a-rod for the quarter bil; that was the fault of tommy hick.
has been said that he left 100 mil on the table; & is still paying for the blunder.
http://sneakykitchen.com/fullerbrush/images/household_broom.jpg
Soonerwolf
7/28/2006, 03:42 PM
I also meant to say that for $25 million/year I could block out boos all day.
A-Rod is paying the price for the arrogant comments he made about Derek Jeter when A-Rod was a Ranger. The Yankees are Jeter's team and when the Owner and Manager do not come to his defense, who should.
Despite what may have been said about the rift when A-Rod was traded to the Yankees, there is a coldness between the two in the clubhouse and the majority of the Yankees would support Jeter.
A-Rod maybe all around the better player of the two, but Jeter has come through in so many clutch situations that there is no comparison there. A-Rod's contact does not help either as he consistently fails to come through in a big spot.
Hopefully he will overcome this before Sheffield and Matsui return - because this is the best chance he will have to win over the fans.
Yanks apparently getting Abreu and Lidle from the Phils, guess Sheff is done in New York.
Salt City Sooner
7/30/2006, 02:56 PM
Yanks apparently getting Abreu and Lidle from the Phils, guess Sheff is done in New York.
Kay said on the telecast that the deal is done. FWIW, one of the minor leaguers they're giving up is C.J. Henry.
EDIT: Linkage- http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2534459
Yanks apparently getting Abreu and Lidle from the Phils, guess Sheff is done in New York.
Eh, he could always DH. Who knows how effective him or Matsui will be coming off their injuries. Those hand injuries can be a bia.
Until Matsui comes back
LF: Cabrera
CF: Damon
RF: Abreu
DH: Bernie/Giambi
1B: Giambi/Phillips
When Matsui comes back
LF: Cabrera
CF: Damon
RF: Abreu
DH: Matsui
1B: Giambi
Bench: Bernie
When/If Sheffield comes back
LF: Matsui
CF: Damon
RF: Abreu
DH: Sheffield
1B: Giambi
Bench: Bernie, Melky
Salt City Sooner
7/30/2006, 03:06 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention that on ESPN News, Stark also said that they're also probably going to get Roberto Hernandez from Pittsburgh.
According to Stark, who AREN'T the Yanks going after?
Besides Preston "K" Wilson.
Edit: The reason I chose Wilson was he was at bat in the Astro/Diamond Back game. And then within the next 2 pitches, he struck out. Jesus this guy kills me.
Salt City Sooner
7/30/2006, 03:50 PM
Stark did make a point of saying that Hernandez is only deal left that they're pursuing.
Kay said on the telecast that the deal is done. FWIW, one of the minor leaguers they're giving up is C.J. Henry.
EDIT: Linkage- http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2534459
Hmm, interesting, he was supposed to the next Jeter. At least they didn't give up Hughes.
Salt City Sooner
7/31/2006, 04:40 PM
Well, right team, wrong deal (re: Stark). Yanks send Shawn Chacon to Pittsburgh for Craig Wilson. Hernandez ended up in Queens.
I don't understand giving up Chacon at this point.
Salt City Sooner
7/31/2006, 10:13 PM
I don't understand giving up Chacon at this point.
1. A 7.00 ERA
2. There have been more than a few rumblings that he wasn't the happiest camper in the clubhouse.
3. Wilson > Andy Phillips
BTW, Olney said in an insider article on ESPN that he's hearing that there's a good chance that they also pick up Sheffield's option for next year.
Good points, I did like the way he bailed them out at Texas the other day.
Back in first, and with Varitek out the injuries are starting to even out.
Salt City Sooner
8/5/2006, 09:48 PM
Nice book they wrote today:
"How to Get One-hit By a Frickin' Noob Who Needs a 20 Foot Running Start to Hit 88 on the Gun & Has One Win & a 6.44 ERA."
-By the New York Yankees-
:mad:
and the new guy had the only hit!
Up two games on the Red Sox, woot.
Salt City Sooner
8/6/2006, 11:38 PM
I still don't know what to think about Wright. Every time I think he's going to get shelled (because he usually had been his previous 3-4 starts) he goes & pulls something like today. Most consistent thing about him is his inconsistency.
The Yanks will be there in the end!!!!!!!!!
GrapevineSooner
8/8/2006, 10:55 PM
White Sox rally to beat the Yanks in 11.
And I think Johnny Damon's throw home is STILL bouncing to the plate. :D
Scott D
8/9/2006, 11:39 AM
White Sox rally to beat the Yanks in 11.
And I think Johnny Damon's throw home is STILL bouncing to the plate. :D
I knew the game was over once that ball landed. I told my wife that Damon's spaghetti string of an arm wouldn't get it there in time against a guy who is recovering from an ankle injury and got spiked the night before by Orlando Cabrera breaking up a double play.
GrapevineSooner
8/10/2006, 10:43 PM
Dear White Sox,
Please beat the Yankees to take the sting outta getting swept by the freaking Royals.
:mad:
PayRod literally threw that game away.
Herr Scholz
8/11/2006, 10:26 AM
19 errors and counting for E-Rod. It's obviously in his head at this point.
New $1 billion Yankee Stadium is on deck
By KAREN MATTHEWS, Associated Press Writer
August 16, 2006
NEW YORK (AP) -- No tears were shed Wednesday for the historic stadium where Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle and Joe DiMaggio played out their storied careers.
Politicians and baseball officials who gathered to break ground on a new Yankee Stadium shared memories of the old ballpark but said the new one would be even better.
"Yankee Stadium is an iconic stadium, a place where Ruth and (Lou) Gehrig played, where popes and presidents have spoken," Gov. George Pataki said. "But so, too, will the new Yankee Stadium be an iconic stadium."
Pataki joined team owner George Steinbrenner, Mayor Michael Bloomberg and others for the groundbreaking ceremony at the site of the new stadium, just north of the existing 1923 ballpark.
The billion-dollar Bronx stadium is set to open in 2009.
Baseball commissioner Bud Selig said he remembered going to Yankee Stadium as a teenager.
"I can still feel the joy and excitement as I stared in wonder at the field, perfect in every way," he said. "And there in center field stood the hero of my boyhood, the great Joe DiMaggio. ... Yankee Stadium is an American monument that has endured for 84 years. Today we are breaking ground on a new Yankee Stadium, a new monument and new memories for the coming generations of fans."
Steinbrenner, who complained of the heat, was brief.
"It's a pleasure to give this to you people," he said. "Enjoy the new stadium. I hope it's wonderful."
The Yankees displayed a congratulatory message from President Bush on the center-field scoreboard during the second inning of Wednesday night's game against Baltimore. There were some boos from the crowd.
Before the game, Yankees manager Joe Torre talked about the old ballpark, and the one being built.
"This is a special place. There's no question. But all the renderings I've seen of that new ballpark, it's going to be exciting," he said. "The guys who are going to play in these next couple years and go over there, I'm sure it's going to be a big change for them."
Yankees legend Yogi Berra, superfan Billy Crystal and 81-year-old stadium fixture Freddy Schuman, who patrols the stands with homemade signs, attended the 90-minute ceremony but did not speak.
Schuman, who banged on his trademark frying pan during applause, said later he approved of the new ballpark.
"I feel about the old stadium, but this is progress," he said.
The groundbreaking came a day after a state Supreme Court judge denied opponents a temporary restraining order that would have blocked construction. He found there was no legal bar to cutting down trees to permit a project that benefits the city and the local community.
A few dozen demonstrators carried signs and chanted, "Save our parks," during Wednesday's ceremony, but police kept them far enough away that they could not be heard by the participants.
In Mullaly Park, most of which will be lost to the new ballpark, tennis instructor Sam Fumi said he hoped the politicians would keep their promise to move the tennis courts to a new park nearby.
"We will relocate somewhere, but right now we don't know," he said. "It's sad."
Manuel Perez, a lifelong neighborhood resident who was playing with his two children in the park, said the area's resurgence had meant only higher rents and other costs of living and a new stadium was unlikely to help.
"It's not going to do anything for my community," he said. "Whether we say yes or whether we say no, they're going to do it anyway."
The 53,000-seat open-air ballpark will replace one of the most famous sports arenas in the world, christened with a Ruth home run on Opening Day. Designers plan to restore several elements of the original stadium, including the frieze that hung from the roof, that were lost in a 1970s remodeling.
Yankee Stadium is the third-oldest ballpark in the major leagues, trailing Boston's Fenway Park (1912) and Chicago's Wrigley Field (1914).
The city and state are contributing more than $200 million to the project, including infrastructure improvements. The Yankees will pay the rest, financed through taxable and tax-exempt bonds.
Until a dozen years ago, Steinbrenner had denigrated the neighborhood as dangerous and threatened to move the team to Manhattan or northern New Jersey. But the Yankees expect to draw more than 4 million fans to the stadium this year, making it the eighth consecutive season topping 3 million.
The new stadium will have fewer seats than the current capacity, 57,478, but more luxury boxes. Chief operating officer Lonn Trost said the ballpark would continue to be called Yankee Stadium rather than be named for the highest corporate bidder, though parts of the park would be sponsored.
Construction of the new stadium will involve paving over large portions of Macombs Dam Park and Mullaly Park and cutting down about 400 mature oak trees. The Yankees are to offset the loss of the parks by building new parkland, including three ball fields at the site of the current Yankee Stadium, which will be dismantled.
Backers say the project will create an estimated 3,600 construction jobs and 900 permanent jobs. But the plan met with opposition from some South Bronx neighbors and parks advocates.
Geoffrey Croft, president of New York City Parks Advocates, said the stadium foes would appeal Tuesday's ruling and file a federal lawsuit.
"The Yankees were never required to consider practical alternatives to the taking of parkland," he said..
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