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jdsooner
3/24/2006, 01:29 AM
Hope this doesn't start a trend.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060324/ap_on_re_us/pastor_slain

Wife a Suspect in Killing of Minister
By WOODY BAIRD, Associated Press Writer

SELMER, Tenn. - A popular and charismatic Tennessee minister was found shot to death in his parsonage, and authorities labled his wife a suspect after she and the couple's three young daughters were found in Alabama on Thursday after a daylong search.

"We've known from the beginning that she was either a suspect or a victim," said Jennifer Johnson, spokeswoman for the Tennessee Bureau of Investigations.

Church members went looking for 31-year-old Matthew Winkler when he did not show up for an evening service at the Fourth Street Church of Christ. They used a key to enter the parsonage and found him dead in a bedroom late Wednesday, Police Chief Neal Burks said.

There were no signs of forced entry at the parsonage, authorities said, but Winkler's family was gone, along with their minivan.

The other family members were found Thursday night in southern Alabama when a police officer saw their van parked along a road.

Authorities said they were alone in the van.

Johnson said Mary Winkler, 32, had not been arrested, but was considered a suspect. TBI agents and Selmer police were on their way to Alabama late Thursday to question her and the children.

The bureau issued an Amber Alert early Thursday for the couple's daughters, Breanna, 1; Mary Alice, 6; and Patricia, 8. The alert said the girls might be with their mother.

All were in good physical condition when they were found in Orange Beach, Ala., about 400 miles south of Selmer.

Johnson said investigators had learned about 1 1/2 hours before the family was found that they might be in southern Alabama or the Florida Panhandle.

Mary Winkler had last been seen late Tuesday afternoon picking up the children from school, said Ed Jones, TBI assistant director. Burks said she worked as a substitute teacher at the elementary school.

"We're just so relieved that the kids were found safe and now we can focus on the next task" of solving the crime, Johnson said.

Tracy Stewart, city clerk in Selmer, said city investigators plan to go to Alabama to interview the family.

Matthew Winkler was hired as minister in February 2005, said Wilburn Ash, an elder at the 200-member church in Selmer, a town of about 4,600 in western Tennessee. The job was Winkler's first full-time position after working as a youth minister at another church.

Ash said he never saw any conflict in the family.

"He seemed like he was real happy here, and we were happy with him," Ash said. "He preached the Bible. He didn't make his opinions known on what was popular or what was politically right. He just preached the Bible."

Former Mayor Jimmy Whittington said he worked with the minister collecting donations for hurricane victims last year. "They were a nice family," he said. "They just blended in."

Matthew Winkler's grandfather had a 60-year-career as an evangelist in four Southern states, and his father is a minister and adjunct professor at the Church of Christ-affiliated Freed-Hardeman University in Henderson.

He was serving his first full pastorship in Selmer after working as a youth minister at a church in McMinnville, church members said.

Members of the congregation gathered Thursday inside the one-story brick church. "We're just trying to console each other," Ash said.

Pam Killingsworth, a church member and assistant principal at Selmer Elementary, where the Winkler children went to her school, said: "I can't believe this would happen."

"The kids are just precious, and she was precious," Killingsworth said, her eyes red from crying and her voice cracking at times. "He was the one of the best ministers we've ever had — just super charisma."

Jerk
3/24/2006, 06:01 AM
Always give a woman with a gun a moving target.

Sooner_Bob
3/24/2006, 07:31 AM
Dang

crawfish
3/24/2006, 09:01 AM
This is one of those times I should really have a witty response on the topic, but I'm comin' up blank. :O

Bourbon St Sooner
3/24/2006, 09:50 AM
If he was a Baptist preacher, I'd put that right up there with Dick Cheney shooting a lawyer. No harm, no foul.

Stanley1
3/24/2006, 10:10 AM
If he was a Baptist preacher, I'd put that right up there with Dick Cheney shooting a lawyer. No harm, no foul.

:rolleyes:

yermom
3/24/2006, 11:42 AM
If he was a televangelist, I'd put that right up there with Dick Cheney shooting a lawyer. No harm, no foul.

;)

Soonerbabeinbama
3/24/2006, 11:47 AM
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned or - men - better hide your loaded turkey shootin shotgun!:eek: He must have really ****ed her off.

KABOOKIE
3/24/2006, 11:50 AM
"We've known from the beginning that she was either a suspect or a victim," said Jennifer Johnson, spokeswoman for the Tennessee Bureau of Investigations.

No ****ing **** Deputy Dewey. :rolleyes:

Hamhock
3/24/2006, 12:05 PM
No ****ing **** Deputy Dewey. :rolleyes:


I thought the same thing. Husband is murdered. Wife and kids missing. They know she's a "suspect or victim".

First think I thought of was how proud the CSI guys would be.

Sooner in Tampa
3/24/2006, 12:48 PM
Damn...the wife confessed to killing him.

Stanley1
3/24/2006, 12:53 PM
Damn...the wife confessed to killing him.

Did she say why?

I'm telling you all, *****'s is crazy.

Sooner in Tampa
3/24/2006, 12:56 PM
Did she say why?

He violated the pooper. ;) :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :eek:

jdsooner
3/24/2006, 01:50 PM
SELMER, Tenn. - The wife of a minister found dead in the church parsonage has confessed to shooting him and fleeing to Alabama, where she was found the following night with their three young daughters, authorities said Friday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060324/ap_on_re_us/pastor_slain

Skysooner
3/24/2006, 01:57 PM
My wife thinks the middle child's eyes look haunted. She thinks there might have been abuse.

KABOOKIE
3/24/2006, 02:36 PM
My wife thinks the middle child's eyes look haunted. She thinks there might have been abuse.

Damn bitch! I asked for ****ing beer not a dalgurned double-barreled shotgun!!

Stoop Dawg
3/24/2006, 02:48 PM
At least the sanctity of marriage was maintained instead of going through some nasty divorce. ;)

85Sooner
3/24/2006, 02:57 PM
Betcha see something about abuse to the girls whether true or not. That would be the only reason she would do something that drastic.

slickdawg
3/24/2006, 02:58 PM
It's obviously a hate crime.

12
3/24/2006, 02:59 PM
He should have lubed his finger.

crawfish
3/24/2006, 03:02 PM
My wife thinks the middle child's eyes look haunted. She thinks there might have been abuse.

My first thought is that he may have been abusing his daughters. Lord, I hope that's untrue. :(

12
3/24/2006, 03:35 PM
Obviously, I'm not very good with the "lubed finger" joke.

Penguin
3/24/2006, 03:41 PM
I can only think of two reasons why a religious wife would kill her husband.

#1 She was a crazy witch.


#2 He was molesting the kids. If that's the case, then the "preacher" better be burning in hell and all charges should be dropped against the mother.


I know, I know. I don't make the rules, but there is no place in hell hot enough for child molesters. I don't care if you were a holy man that saved 10,000 souls, you should go to hell. Also, child molesters are not human, so it is impossible to file murder charges.

jdsooner
3/25/2006, 02:02 AM
Third reason: He was unfaithful.

VeeJay
3/25/2006, 09:40 AM
Could be. Will be interesting to see if there's a church secretary emerging from this, wearing sunglasses all the time and being escorted around by two or three lunchy suited bodyguards, hustling her in and out of mini-vans and putting their hands in front of the news cameras.

On the other hand, I'd tend to think for the lady to whack him, he must have been molesting the kids. In which, the punishment fit the crime.

TexasLidig8r
3/25/2006, 10:26 AM
Why is she dressed in an orange and white striped Okie Lite costume? :confused:

crawfish
3/25/2006, 11:17 AM
Could be. Will be interesting to see if there's a church secretary emerging from this, wearing sunglasses all the time and being escorted around by two or three lunchy suited bodyguards, hustling her in and out of mini-vans and putting their hands in front of the news cameras.

On the other hand, I'd tend to think for the lady to whack him, he must have been molesting the kids. In which, the punishment fit the crime.

Reports from the police say there's no infidelity involved. Dude was also shot in the back, apparently while trying to run away.

Sooner98
3/25/2006, 11:47 AM
Why would she continue to have children with a man who knowingly molested the two older daughters? If this is the case, she's at best a complete idiot for having the third daughter, and at worst, she is a willing accomplice in his sick actions. If it was simply something like infidelity, she is a crazy lunatic. Either way, I hope she gets put away forever.

Penguin
3/25/2006, 02:46 PM
She probably just found out. It is possible to molest children when the other parent is away.

Personally, if this is the case, I think GW should issue a pardon immediately.

jdsooner
3/26/2006, 01:23 PM
Could be. Will be interesting to see if there's a church secretary emerging from this, wearing sunglasses all the time and being escorted around by two or three lunchy suited bodyguards, hustling her in and out of mini-vans and putting their hands in front of the news cameras.

On the other hand, I'd tend to think for the lady to whack him, he must have been molesting the kids. In which, the punishment fit the crime.


I saw an interview with the church secretary yesterday and I don't think that is the ticket, unless he goes middle aged women who weight between 220 and 250.