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oumartin
3/18/2006, 03:49 PM
where was the thread that had the sittler column in it?

Big Red Ron
3/18/2006, 03:55 PM
Yeah, I was about to google the center he mentioned.

Big Red Ron
3/18/2006, 03:55 PM
Now, I can't remember it.

oumartin
3/18/2006, 03:56 PM
you know when a thread vanishes there is some truth to it..
Dude wants out. I say run him off. I've just changed my mind

MojoRisen
3/18/2006, 04:14 PM
With all those Variables- it would be the best option to me- especially if we could avoid probation- and make a run at a couple great coaches..

Sounds like we are in bed now- and will ride it out though- F*^*^. I would like to resemble UNC a little- that is good basketball-

Cam
3/18/2006, 04:15 PM
What did Sittler say?

ouflak
3/18/2006, 04:15 PM
I have a real problems with threads disappearing with no comments or reason given. There are rules to the forum that posters, you would think, are expected to follow. It's little hard to know what those rules are supposed to be when threads just vanish for no reason. I'd like the moderator who's doing it to just have enough respect and consideration to atleast tell why they are deleting random threads.

oumartin
3/18/2006, 04:16 PM
I bet I know who yanked it!

oumartin
3/18/2006, 04:17 PM
basically sittler said that Kelvin more than likely leaked something to a personal "friend" and that "friend" didnt keep their mouth shut. something about being tired of being at OU.

Big Red Ron
3/18/2006, 04:19 PM
I bet I know who yanked it!you think they give him those type of powers?

oumartin
3/18/2006, 04:20 PM
yes, he is a mod. or he was at one time.

Big Red Ron
3/18/2006, 04:21 PM
Also, sittler said that if kelvin is coaching at the college level next year it will be at ou.

Big Red Ron
3/18/2006, 04:22 PM
peem me perv.

Cam
3/18/2006, 04:25 PM
you think they give him those type of powers?
Oh yeah, he's a full fledged mod. Can't put him on ignore either. Trust me, I've tried.

If he indeed delted a thread simply because of that, it's pretty damn lame.

MojoRisen
3/18/2006, 04:27 PM
They had permission if it was a preference- the numbers spoke for themselves.. I didn't expect it to be a preference- but I guess that is my fault.

Who posted the Sittler article??

ouflak
3/18/2006, 04:30 PM
I've looked at the Forum Leaders Page (http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showgroups.php) and I see all of the people who are supposed to be moderators of the Soonerfans fourms. If there is somebody else doing the job, they need to be listed or otherwise announced.

*snip* I really consider it disrespectful to have my threads disappear without any reason given.

oumartin
3/18/2006, 04:31 PM
i don't know who posted the sittler article. but it dent paint a nice picture of the whole situation.
its kinda like kelvin is stuck with OU and OU is stuck with Kelvin. (and apparently he doesn't wanna be here)

oumartin
3/18/2006, 04:32 PM
you're paying 50.00 a month to be a sponsor? man, you should be a mod

ouflak
3/18/2006, 04:38 PM
you're paying 50.00 a month to be a sponsor? man, you should be a mod

If I were a mod, and I felt the need to delete a thread, then I would have the common courtesy to say why I'm deleting a thread. There are rules for the forum concerning why threads might be edited or deleted. If anybody is violating those rules, it would definitely help if they knew what rule they were in violation of. It's just common courtesy if nothing else.

The moderators do have a right to delete threads without any reason given. But:

1. I suspect the individual deleting these threads in NOT a moderator.

2. If they are a moderator, then it is not fair of them to have any expectation for anybody to follow the rules of the forum which apparently only they are privy too.

GDC
3/18/2006, 04:54 PM
NCAA, Sooners not done with each other after early exit
By DAVE SITTLER World Sports Writer
3/18/2006

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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- One-and-done in the Big Dance, Oklahoma isn't done with the NCAA. And vice versa.

That's why the Sooner men's basketball program will remain a topic of interest for several weeks. Normally, elimination from the NCAA Tournament means the sport is mothballed until practice starts in October, while the fan and media focus returns to football for the next nine months.

But OU's upset loss in the first round Thursday to Wisconsin-Milwaukee doesn't mean Sooner hoops is going away. It could remain in the headlines for months, depending on the outcome of an NCAA investigation into rule violations by coach Kelvin Sampson and some of his current and former assistants.

That investigation into allegedly violating the rule on the number of phone calls made to prospects is precisely why Sampson will be back at OU next season if he's coaching on the college level.

Sampson's name has already been mentioned in various media reports for openings at Arizona State and Missouri. Maybe Sampson's agent is floating his name out there. It's either that or some media members are clueless or naive.

Any athletic director who attempted to hire Sampson right now would have some serious explaining to do to his school president

and board of regents. How can you justify pursuing a coaching whose program is under intense scrutiny by the NCAA?

Although he's denied it, there is probably more to this week's report in the Arizona Republic that Sampson has told some of his peers that he's ready to move on. He obviously didn't expect some of his close friends to tell the media what he confided to them in what he thought was private.

But for better or worse, Sampson and OU are apparently stuck with each other. He could flee to the NBA, where he has friends in high places because of his work with the National Association of Basketball Coaches.

But it's difficult (laughable, really) to imagine NBA players buying into Sampson's rah-rah style. His approach is better suited to the college game, where he has excelled and was considered a model citizen until it was revealed that he and his staff made 550 phone calls to potential recruits over a four-year period.

So, barring any unforeseen surprise the NCAA might spring on OU when Sampson, athletic director Joe Castiglione and president David Boren meet with investigators next month in Park City, Utah, Sampson will remain at OU.

Sampson's 13th season should be intriguing. As the Sooners walked slowly off the floor at Veterans Memorial Arena here Thursday, some of them in tears, following an 82-74 loss to lower-seeded Wisconsin-Milwaukee, one couldn't help but wonder when the school would again be a participant in March Madness.

OU will lose its three best players in seniors Kevin Bookout, Terrell Everett and Taj Gray. The underclassmen who return are all role players. None has demonstrated the ability to dominate on a consistent basis like the three departing seniors.

However, help is apparently on the way. During last November's signing period, Sampson landed five players with reputations good enough that OU's class was ranked as high as No. 4 nationally by one recruiting service.

It was three years ago at this time that Sampson's recruiting efforts were also being praised when he landed a trio of hot prospects in guards Drew Lavender and Lawrence McKenzie and forward Brandon Foust.

The fact that none of those players suited up for OU in Thursday's season-ending loss pinpoints the inaccuracy and fallibility of recruiting rankings. Those polls don't take into account a player's character or how he will fit into a system.

On the flip side, however, Kansas demonstrated this season how quickly a team can improve when prospects turn out as good as advertised. With a starting lineup made up totally with freshmen and sophomores, the Jayhawks shared the Big 12 Conference regular-season title with Texas and whipped the Longhorns in the league's tournament championship game.

So maybe Sampson can bring along the newcomers at a rapid rate. It would help if he can sign a junior-college big man this spring, someone like 6-foot-10 Jerome Habel, the center at San Bernardino (Calif.) Valley College who the Sooners reportedly are after.

Sampson's perpetual chip-on-the-shoulder mentality usually means he's at his best when he faces steep odds and doubters. While the 2005-06 season will go down as one of his weakest coaching efforts at OU, Sampson's body of work for the Sooners is commendable.

His history of success, which includes taking OU to the 2002 Final Four, is proof positive that Sampson can rebound from the precarious predicament he now finds himself in on and off the court.

After Thursday's loss, a dejected Sampson said: "I don't ever take for granted how hard it is to make the (NCAA) tournament."

It's about to get a whole lot harder for Sampson as he attempts to rebuild his team and his image.



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Dave Sittler 581-8312
[email protected] .

oumartin
3/18/2006, 04:56 PM
theres the dirty B****** that posted it! Get him!!!!!! :D

RacerX
3/18/2006, 06:14 PM
I'm posting in here just cuz.

oumartin
3/18/2006, 06:17 PM
how you feel about the sitler article there racer?

SoonerShark
3/18/2006, 06:43 PM
Next year, Baylor may beat us in Waco if we achieve to our potential like we did this year. Nevertheless, I would not be surprised if we go 11-5 again either. It was not offense that killed us this year, it was defense. Coupled with the probation potential, who knows what will happen.

Let's see...550 calls too many over four years is around 138 per year, which is about 11-1/2 per month, which is about one extra call every three days. Our transgressions don't look so bad, actually.

MojoRisen
3/18/2006, 06:50 PM
Cough cough- that is actually pretty blatent- 1 every 3 days for 4 years- that had to give us a clear advantage.

The Shockers looked afully good today- that coach studied under Brown and Roy Williams.. hum

RacerX
3/18/2006, 06:53 PM
how you feel about the sitler article there racer?
Makes me sad.

Taking the article for what it says....Kelvin wants out but can't get out because of 550 phone calls.

The only way Kelvin is gone is if the University gives him the boot. The only way that happens is if the NCAA nails OU over the phone calls.

Oh, and Kelvin wants us to love him for getting into the NCAA tourney. Attention Kelvin - we're not Penn.


PS. It doesn't matter what any of us think about the NCAA rules violations. The only thing that matters is what the NCAA thinks about them.

PPS. You don't tell anyone how you feel unless you want to get it out. He's old enough to know that.:kelvin:

oumartin
3/18/2006, 06:56 PM
well heres hoping to a contract buyout!

william_brasky
3/18/2006, 06:57 PM
Longar Longar will be starting at center next year.

MojoRisen
3/18/2006, 06:58 PM
I wished he said that it is not OU basketball to get knocked out in the first round- we'll keep our heads up and be back here soon ready for a run-

But no- he wants love for making it to the tourney and getting smoked by a mid major- and a coach that makes one tenth what he does.

oumartin
3/18/2006, 07:31 PM
me thinkith the K.S. lovefest is not so much anymore.

birddog
3/18/2006, 07:58 PM
i think i've had enough too. all the teams I've seen are playing with passion and intensity. i really feel we woulda lost to anyone we would have played. that's not cool.

Cam
3/18/2006, 08:33 PM
Can't put him on ignore either.
I stand corrected. I was just allowed to put him on my ignore list.

RacerX
3/18/2006, 08:52 PM
I stand corrected. I was just allowed to put him on my ignore list.
So Cam, which casino should we play poker at?:D

Cam
3/18/2006, 09:17 PM
So Cam, which casino should we play poker at?:D
He didn't say which one. I'm sure we could figure it out though.

oumartin
3/18/2006, 09:29 PM
you guys make me sick!

Sooner_Bob
3/18/2006, 10:33 PM
What the?

oumartin
3/18/2006, 10:36 PM
just go back one page and read the sittler column bob, obviously upset a moderator.

Stoop Dawg
3/18/2006, 10:39 PM
Given that Taj and Bookout were our best players, making the tourny was quite an accomplishment.

Here's hoping some of the new recruits actually pan out this time.