Separation of School and State!!!!!!!!!!

[85Sooner]

So my wife is checking out our local school district. Actually considered one of the better ones in texas.

They have a pre K program which seems okay
http://www.leanderisd.org/Programs/pre_K.html

Half way down I read that it is only for children who are from a bilingual family where english is the second language. Or you must be enrolled in the free lunch program or discounted lunch program.

Therefore. My Kid, who is from an english speaking family, which works and pays taxes out the wahoo and can afford to pay for a meal or two for its child, IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO ATTEND.

Language protocols on the board prevent me from describing what huge *&^ *&^*^ %$#$% ^%&% these folks are who set up our Public education .
Wheres the egg nog???????????

[JohnnyMack]

I thought it was Tylenol?

[mdklatt]

Half way down I read that it is only for children who are from a bilingual family where english is the second language. Or you must be enrolled in the free lunch program or discounted lunch program.


Pre-K is for at-risk kids who need a head start; other kids wouldn't get much benefit from it. "At-risk" basically boils down to having a crack whore for a mother and living in poverty.

[crawfish]

Tell them your first language is "F'in Hillbilly".

[yermom]

what does being poor have to do with needing to go to Pre-K?

i can kinda see the ESL thing...

[Mjcpr]

They don't want a bunch of smart kids coming in there, hogging up all the teacher's time when they know they're not really there to learn anything.

[OUDoc]

I just found out today that my son with Autism can't get all day kindergarden because we aren't poor enough. If we had no money, he could get more school time, courtesy of the Feds. I'll never get that.

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

OUDoc, Can your son not go to Southgate Rippetoe in Moore? It is a special needs school. My friend's son went there and he is Autistic.

Oh and my niece and nephew went to Pre-K in Moore. They don't qualify for free lunches and only speak Engrish. It must be just a problem with your school district, 85.

[OUDoc]

OUDoc, Can your son not go to Southgate Rippetoe in Moore? It is a special needs school. My friend's son went there and he is Autistic.

I don't know. Getting him there would be the problem (we live in a land far, far away).

[Skysooner]

Surprising. My son has autism. We live in Edmond, and I'm well above the threshold. They gave him pre-K for 2 years in a special needs environment to prepare him to go to kindergarten. It has really helped his long-term prognosis.

[mdklatt]

what does being poor have to do with needing to go to Pre-K?



Being ready for kindergarten means your parents raised you right. If we're talking about an urban school district most poor kids have ****ty parents, or parent usually. Income may not be the most precise indicator for at-risk students, but it's pretty good.

[mdklatt]

They don't want a bunch of smart kids coming in there, hogging up all the teacher's time when they know they're not really there to learn anything.

Exactly, Pre-K is not supposed to be a daycare.

[yermom]

Being ready for kindergarten means your parents raised you right. If we're talking about an urban school district most poor kids have ****ty parents, or parent usually. Income may not be the most precise indicator for at-risk students, but it's pretty good.

seems a pretty harsh thing to decide across the board though

[Soonrboy]

It's probably paid for by federal money specifically designed to get ELL kids ready for school so that they can close the achievement gap...so the only kids that can go there would be those whose second language is English and who qualify by income levels. Probably a Title I or Title IV program.

[Soonrboy]

Being ready for kindergarten means your parents raised you right. If we're talking about an urban school district most poor kids have ****ty parents, or parent usually. Income may not be the most precise indicator for at-risk students, but it's pretty good.


being ready for kindergarten means your parents were able to raise you correctly

[85Sooner]

It's probably paid for by federal money specifically designed to get ELL kids ready for school so that they can close the achievement gap...so the only kids that can go there would be those whose second language is English and who qualify by income levels. Probably a Title I or Title IV program.


So, I have to pay for mine out ofr my pocket to a private institution and I have to pay for all of these other folks. Well P!ss on that. My school board is gonna love me when I get those meetings going. Such stupidity and thinking by the ones supposedly smart enough to educate our kids. What a bunch of losers, the whole lot of them.

[Soonrboy]

If it's federal money, the national government sets the standards on how its going to be spent.

Norman is offering pre-school in all it's schools next year...

Something's gotta be done to help these kids get ready for school...

[Stoop Dawg]

So, I have to pay for mine out ofr my pocket to a private institution and I have to pay for all of these other folks.

Welcome to socialist America. Come on in, the Kool-Aid is delicious!

Alright, alright. I actually think education is one area where the govt should be involved. And I don't see a problem with having a special school designed to help "at-risk" kids. The definition of "at-risk" is, of course, going to be controversial.

[85Sooner]

If it's federal money, the national government sets the standards on how its going to be spent.

Norman is offering pre-school in all it's schools next year...

Something's gotta be done to help these kids get ready for school...


Hey, the world needs ditch diggers too :)

[mdklatt]

being ready for kindergarten means your parents were able to raise you correctly

Isn't that what I said? :confused:

[Jimminy Crimson]

Something's gotta be done to help these kids get ready for school...

Back in the day, that's what parents were for... :O

[mdklatt]

So, I have to pay for mine out ofr my pocket to a private institution and I have to pay for all of these other folks.

My sister is a Pre-K teacher. You would not want these kids in kindergarten with your kid unless they had been through Pre-K.

[BajaOklahoma]

We had this discussion the other night.
The intent of Pre-K for those with low income or language needs is to level the playing field. These kids do not come into KN knowing how to read, they just have the opportunity to have books read to them, to learn how to color and use scissors, and other basic things. Most of these kids have never been to the Zoo, traveled to another town or city. Their frame of referrence is much different than most of our children's frame of reference.
Our Pre-K program will allow the general public to attend at a fairly cheap rate.

[RacerX]

OUDoc, Can your son not go to Southgate Rippetoe in Moore? It is a special needs school. My friend's son went there and he is Autistic.

Oh and my niece and nephew went to Pre-K in Moore. They don't qualify for free lunches and only speak Engrish. It must be just a problem with your school district, 85.

85 lives in North Mexico. English is almost everyone's second language down there.

[GottaHavePride]

I went into kindergarten knowing how to read. Mainly because my parents took time to read to me every freakin' day. By the time I was three, they were letting me read to them as practice. And I don't buy the "well, you're just freakin' smart" argument - any kid that has parents that give a crap about them could do the same.

[Soonrboy]

Back in the day, that's what parents were for... :O


schools are the parents now-a-days...our number one problem, yet we don't give the teachers the tools to be able to deal with the students like a parent should.

[Jimminy Crimson]

schools are the parents now-a-days...our number one problem, yet we don't give the teachers the tools to be able to deal with the students like a parent should.

kids were scared they were going to get paddled back in my day.

the rumors flew rampant that there were either holes in the paddle or that it was an electrick shock paddle! :eek:

kids need an element of fear these days. i bet in elementary schools these days, instead of paddling, they threaten to take away your internet access! :eddie:

[yermom]

i seriously have no idea how they control kids in school without corporal punishment

you can't even grade in red ink... how do you get them to do anything?

[Jimminy Crimson]

i seriously have no idea how they control kids in school without corporal punishment

you can't even grade in red ink... how do you get them to do anything?

pat them on the back and read some dr. phil to them :rolleyes:

[Frozen Sooner]

I went into kindergarten knowing how to read. Mainly because my parents took time to read to me every freakin' day. By the time I was three, they were letting me read to them as practice. And I don't buy the "well, you're just freakin' smart" argument - any kid that has parents that give a crap about them could do the same.

Aaaaaand you and PG come from a well-to-do family. QED.

[Stoop Dawg]

Taking an interest in your kid's education does not require money. QED.

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

I think they should allow capital punishment back in the schools. When they removed capital punishment, all the problems started.

[Soonrboy]

Taking an interest in your kid's education does not require money. QED.


but when your a single mom working two jobs, not so much time to spend reading with the kids.

[Stoop Dawg]

I think they should allow capital punishment back in the schools. When they removed capital punishment, all the problems started.

I think you mean "corporal". And what are you doing on the inet at this hour? 11pm on Friday night is prime club time for hot single chicks!

[Jimminy Crimson]

I think you mean "corporal". And what are you doing on the inet at this hour? 11pm on Friday night is prime club time for hot single chicks!

she got kicked out of club infinity for making out with the bartender

[Stoop Dawg]

but when your a single mom working two jobs, not so much time to spend reading with the kids.

Are we ready for this tangent? I suspect there is an adult with this child more often that not. Who is it and why doesn't that person teach them to read?

[Stoop Dawg]

she got kicked out of club infinity for making out with the bartender

"making out", that's what they're calling it these days, eh?

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

No, I meant capital. Bring in the 'lectric chair when they misbehave.

Oh and my niece has an 8 am bball game that's why I'm not in da club.

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

Speaking of my niece, in Kindergarten the kids get a free pizza if they read x number of books. The parents were supposed to write down the books they read with their kids and turn it in. My sister in law was helping out with the Thursday folders that the parents see and she couldn't believe how many kids' parents didn't take the time to read with their kids.

[Stoop Dawg]

No, I meant capital. Bring in the 'lectric chair when they misbehave.

That's what I'M talkin' 'bout!!! :D

[yermom]

Are we ready for this tangent? I suspect there is an adult with this child more often that not. Who is it and why doesn't that person teach them to read?

you ARE kidding right?

[Sooner_Bob]

Pre-K is for at-risk kids who need a head start; other kids wouldn't get much benefit from it. "At-risk" basically boils down to having a crack whore for a mother and living in poverty.

Says who? My youngest will attend pre-K and my wife ain't no crack whore. You people who don't have kids should basically think a little more before you pop off about some things.

Some kids need a head start because of the birthday rule and would have to stay at home an extra year since they were born after Sept. 1. Why not let them attend pre-K to start learning a little early?

[Okla-homey]

I'm just glad little 'ol Miss Hale ran a Montessori kindegarten in Ardmore back in 1965 when I went there. I believe that Montessori system was the key to my success later...cuz I was an obstinate but very curious kid and she gave me my head to learn things I was jazzed about while carefully guiding me as I taught myself to read and stuff at the same time.

Heavy on phonics yes, but I learned to sight read words later in first grade.

IMHO, if there is a Montesorri option available, its worth every penny to send your kids there.

Just saying.

"In brief, the teacher's principle duty in the school may be described as follows: She should explain the use of the material. She is the main connecting link between the material, that is the objects, and the child. This is a simple, modest duty, and yet it is much more delicate than that found in the older schools, where the material simply helps the children to understand the mind of the teacher, who must pass on her own ideas to a child, who must in turn receive them."


OKLAHOMA
Schools are listed in alphabetical order by city.

CHILDREN'S HOUSE OF NORMAN, INC. (Full Member School)
606 South Santa Fe
NORMAN 73069
46 Students 3 - 8 Years Old
Ms. Susan Jones Jensen
405/321-1275 August-May
E-mail: [email protected]
Programs Offered: Art, Music & Spanish

CASADY SCHOOL, PRIMARY DIVISION (Full Member School)
9500 N. Pennsylvania
OKLAHOMA CITY 73120
154 Students 3 - 6.5 Years Old
Mrs. Henrie Close
405/749-3148 (Fax, 405/749-3159) September-May, Summer Program-Yes
E-mail: [email protected]
Web: www.casady.org
Programs Offered: Art, Music, Science, Drama, Movement & Cooking.
Mail to: P.O. Box 20390, Oklahoma City, OK 73156

OKC MONTESSORI (Full Member School)
2820 W. Britton Road
OKLAHOMA CITY 73120
14 Students 2.5 - 7 Years Old
Ms. Tammy Kephart
405/748-7242 September-May, Summer Program-Yes
Web: www.OKCMontessori.com
Programs Offered: Art, Music, Science, Geography, Dance & Spanish

WESTMINSTER SCHOOL (Full Member School)
612 Northwest 44th Street
OKLAHOMA CITY 73118
62 Students 3 - 6 Years Old
Ms. ReJeania Steiner
405/524-0631 (Fax, 405/528-4412) August-May
E-mail:[email protected]
Web: www.westminsterschool.org
Programs Offered: Vocal Music, Pasta & Bread Making, P.E. & Library
Mailing address: 600 NW 44th Street, OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 73118

UNDERCROFT MONTESSORI SCHOOL (Full Member School)
3745 South Hudson Avenue
TULSA 74135
185 Students 3 - 14 Years Old
Ms. LeAnn Huxall
918/622-2890 (Fax, 918/622-3203) August-May, Summer Program-Yes
E-mail:[email protected]
Web: www.undercroft.org
Programs Offered: Music, Spanish, Art & P.E.


for the list of Montessori schools in other states:

http://www.amshq.org/schools.htm

[Sooner_Bob]

what does being poor have to do with needing to go to Pre-K?

i can kinda see the ESL thing...


It doesn't. Some kids may "need" to go while others want to go . . . you know to learn.

There are all kinds of Mother's Day Out, Day Care and Pre-K programs out there that cater to the babysitting side of things, but there are also those who actually strive to teach the kids something. Whether it is in a religious setting, a private facility or a state sponsored school.


There's a pre-K right across the road from our subdivision and is a part of the Stillwater Schools . . . it's free and actually helps get the kids better prepared for kindergarten in an academic setting as we do so at home.


None of this was directed at you yermom . . . I kinda got on a roll. :D

[85Sooner]

Says who? My youngest will attend pre-K and my wife ain't no crack whore. You people who don't have kids should basically think a little more before you pop off about some things.

Some kids need a head start because of the birthday rule and would have to stay at home an extra year since they were born after Sept. 1. Why not let them attend pre-K to start learning a little early?

now THATS a logical reason for a pre k program.

[yermom]

It doesn't. Some kids may "need" to go while others want to go . . . you know to learn.

There are all kinds of Mother's Day Out, Day Care and Pre-K programs out there that cater to the babysitting side of things, but there are also those who actually strive to teach the kids something. Whether it is in a religious setting, a private facility or a state sponsored school.


There's a pre-K right across the road from our subdivision and is a part of the Stillwater Schools . . . it's free and actually helps get the kids better prepared for kindergarten in an academic setting as we do so at home.


None of this was directed at you yermom . . . I kinda got on a roll. :D


nah, i didn't see it that way, i was responding to the idea that only underprivileged were able to go

[mdklatt]

I suspect there is an adult with this child more often that not.

Not necessarily.


Who is it and why doesn't that person teach them to read?

What makes you think that person can read?

[mdklatt]

Says who?

The individual school district. My sister is a Pre-K teacher. Her class is specifically for at-risk students--students from poor families, ESL students, students with developmental disabilities.



My youngest will attend pre-K and my wife ain't no crack whore.


Then your school district does things differently.




Some kids need a head start because of the birthday rule and would have to stay at home an extra year since they were born after Sept. 1.


:confused:

My birthday is after Sept 1. I stayed home an extra year, so I was always one of the oldest (and most mature) kids in my class. If anything this gave me an advantage.



Why not let them attend pre-K to start learning a little early?

Does your kid speak English? Is your kid potty trained? Does your kid know not to stab other kids with scissors? Does your kid have at least one parent who is not in jail? Your kid would probably not benefit from my sister's Pre-K class. Every school district has different goals for their Pre-K program.

[jrsooner]

Half way down I read that it is only for children who are from a bilingual family where english is the second language. Or you must be enrolled in the free lunch program or discounted lunch program.My first consulting position here in Houston was programming cafeteria software for 3 school districts. My first introduction to the "free lunch" program was the secretaries telling me that they'll receive an application, and deny it. The next day that same family comes in with either a father missing, children have been miraculously cloned, etc. and then they are accepted into the program. You gotta love it.

[Stoop Dawg]

What makes you think that person can read?

I typed out a long response but it really all boils down to this:

Is it society's responsibility to raise children when the parents are unwilling or unable to do so?

[85Sooner]

I typed out a long response but it really all boils down to this:

Is it society's responsibility to raise children when the parents are unwilling or unable to do so?


Sorry to say. No.

It would have been one thing to help out but it has gotten out of hand. Do I feel bad for their lot in life? Yes. Am I responsible for it? No.

I grew up with several kids who had the bad lot in life and are very successful now but none of them succeeded by someone giving them something for nothing. They worked hard, joined the military, learned skills and they are fine today.

[royalfan5]

I typed out a long response but it really all boils down to this:

Is it society's responsibility to raise children when the parents are unwilling or unable to do so?
I would say it is in society's best interests to mitigate the damage done by unwilling or unable parents. Just like a failed state can destabilize a region, and failed person can destablize they people around them. While not all failure can be prevented, minization of the number of failed people is something society at large should have a vested interest in because of the net societal benefits derived from such mitigation.

[mdklatt]

Is it society's responsibility to raise children when the parents are unwilling or unable to do so?

From an idealistic perspective, if we really want to give more than lip service to American as a land of equal opportunity we owe it to every kid to give them at least a fighting chance at an education. Poverty and bad parenting can be a vicious cycle. If your mother is crack whore your odds aren't too great, and neither are the odds for your kids. Shouldn't we try at least once to break that cycle?

From a practical perspective, it's a better investment to spend a few thousand dollars on a kid in Pre-K than to support him for this rest of his life on welfare and/or in prison.

From a parental perspective, you do not want most of the kids that qualify for at-risk Pre-K in the same kindergarten class as your kids. At best they will be a major distraction to the teacher, and at worst they are dangerous.

[mdklatt]

I grew up with several kids who had the bad lot in life and are very successful now but none of them succeeded by someone giving them something for nothing.


Where did you grow up? What school district are you talking about now?

You're begrudging a five-year-old a chance at a decent education. Wow, tough crowd. You should be thankful your kid doesn't qualify for Pre-K.

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

WESTMINSTER SCHOOL (Full Member School)
612 Northwest 44th Street
OKLAHOMA CITY 73118
62 Students 3 - 6 Years Old
Ms. ReJeania Steiner
405/524-0631 (Fax, 405/528-4412) August-May
E-mail:[email protected]
Web: www.westminsterschool.org (http://www.westminsterschool.org/)
Programs Offered: Vocal Music, Pasta & Bread Making, P.E. & Library
Mailing address: 600 NW 44th Street, OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 73118


Are you kidding me? Pasta and bread making for Pre K?

[85Sooner]

Where did you grow up? What school district are you talking about now?

You're begrudging a five-year-old a chance at a decent education. Wow, tough crowd. You should be thankful your kid doesn't qualify for Pre-K.


OKC Grew up the first few years living around 36th and eastern, Went to school at Gatewood, OKC school district. Finally moved and went into the PC school district. None of them were really worth a darn. Got my licks in the real world bfore going back to school at OU and UCO. I am not begrudging any 5 year old of a decent education. Go for it. Just don't put it on my bill, thankyou.

[Soonrboy]

It is in the best interest to all of us that all children are educated. While some of you sit around and bemoan that it's not society's problem to raise these kids, there are actually breathing, living kids coming through the schools that we are trying are damndest to do the things their parents, for whatever reason, can't do.

If I'm not mistaken, your tax dollars will later on go to build more prisons for these kids we don't reach...go bitch to the legislature about that.

[Soonrboy]

And another think, while I'm on my ****ing soapbox this morning...poor parents are also those cute little 16 year olds spreading their legs and five years later are putting their kids in school and not even have opened a book with them...and I'm not letting those 16 year old boys off either...

It makes me sick when I hear about 14 year olds having sex....yeah, it's funny to say "lucky boy"..but,damn, there's some reality to that.

[mdklatt]

I am not begrudging any 5 year old of a decent education. Go for it. Just don't put it on my bill, thankyou.

Who's supposed to pay for it then? Hell, I don't have any kids--why should I pay school taxes at all? They're your kids, you pay for 'em.

[85Sooner]

It is in the best interest to all of us that all children are educated. While some of you sit around and bemoan that it's not society's problem to raise these kids, there are actually breathing, living kids coming through the schools that we are trying are damndest to do the things their parents, for whatever reason, can't do.

If I'm not mistaken, your tax dollars will later on go to build more prisons for these kids we don't reach...go bitch to the legislature about that.
If there were not 150 different programs for the so called poor to live off of, they would get off their buts and do something. Anything. Right now there is absolutely no incintive to get out of the programs and the folks who run the programs are figuring out more ways to make people eligible so they can justify their existance even if they do not produce any positive results.

[mdklatt]

If there were not 150 different programs for the so called poor to live off of, they would get off their buts and do something. Anything. Right now there is absolutely no incintive to get out of the programs and the folks who run the programs are figuring out more ways to make people eligible so they can justify their existance even if they do not produce any positive results.

We're talking about five-year-olds. What poor decisions does a five-year-old need to be responsible for?

Sorry you were born to a crack whore, kid, but that's not my problem. I'm not giving a dime until you enter the penal system in about five years, after which time you'll be living in prison or on welfare for the rest of your life. That'll teach you to pick your parents better next time.

[BajaOklahoma]

This is one of the most interesting threads around.
So many misconceptions.

Pre-K programs in the public schools are, for the most part, intended to take at risk kids and get them up speed by KN. AKA level the playing field. We currently have the following types of kids enrolled in our program:
Children with vision impairment (legally blind)
Children with hearing impairments
Children with speech impairment
Children with health issues that impact their ability to perform in the classroom (e.g. dwarfism, trachs, wheelchairs, etc)
Children with limited English
Children with limited exposure to life experiences (e.g. low income)

These are the kids who have never been to Mother's Day Out or a daycare or regualr pre-school because those programs usually aren't set up to deal with special needs. Some of these kids don't know what to call different animals, hardly know what a book looks like, don't know any regular kid's songs, have no clue how to write their name or count to 10. These Pre-K programs aren't going to teach your child to read before KN.
But they may give your child's KN teacher the opportunity to do more teaching and less catch-up for weaker students. If we can keep these kids out of special ed or get them to graduate ESOL, then it is money saved in the long run. The more likely the kids are to have a good school experience and graduate from high school.

[Soonrboy]

screw those kids...ain't our problem.

:rolleyes:

[mdklatt]

If we can keep these kids out of special ed or get them to graduate ESOL, then it is money saved in the long run. The more likely the kids are to have a good school experience and graduate from high school.


For me that's really the bottom line--it saves money. And if it happens to help kids, even better.

[Frozen Sooner]

Who's supposed to pay for it then? Hell, I don't have any kids--why should I pay school taxes at all? They're your kids, you pay for 'em.

I've always thought of paying for schools as paying for MY education.

Well, that and not having to hire people who can't read.

[85Sooner]

Look, I know its not the PC thing to say. But all the programs and money are not going to change things. THey havn't in the past and won't in the future.

Time to try a different way. Keep n mind when you speak of the poor in the US , that usually means cable, PS2, 1 tv one car etc.....

I used to be in the"helping profession" for these folks and have finally come to the educated conclusion that the ONLY way any different result can occur is if the gravy train STOPS. Over, Finite!

[Sooner_Bob]

Every school district has different goals for their Pre-K program.


Exactly . . .

[Sooner_Bob]

:confused:

My birthday is after Sept 1. I stayed home an extra year, so I was always one of the oldest (and most mature) kids in my class. If anything this gave me an advantage.



So you stayed home and watched cartoons rather than attending a pre-k class to start learning a little early? :)

My 4 year-old is ready for Kindergarten now . . . she's probably not going to be attending pre-k 5 days a week, more than likely it will be for 2-3 days a week. Young kids can never gain social skills and "learn" too much.




Does your kid speak English? Is your kid potty trained? Does your kid know not to stab other kids with scissors? Does your kid have at least one parent who is not in jail? Your kid would probably not benefit from my sister's Pre-K class. Every school district has different goals for their Pre-K program.

If that's what your sister has to deal with then it sounds like her Pre-K class is basically a day care . . .

[Sooner_Bob]

Who's supposed to pay for it then? Hell, I don't have any kids--why should I pay school taxes at all? They're your kids, you pay for 'em.


Trust me . . . we do.

[mdklatt]

So you stayed home and watched cartoons rather than attending a pre-k class to start learning a little early? :)



I got 13 years of public education the same as everybody else, so I don't see why it matters when I started. It may have been an advantage for me to start "late" since I was more mature than my classmates.




If that's what your sister has to deal with then it sounds like her Pre-K class is basically a day care . . .

Many of the parents of her students probably see it as free daycare, but it fulfills a role for the school. From what I understand it's a screening process as much as anything else. Since kindergarten is a lot more advanced than it used to be 20-30 years ago it's important to figure out who's really ready for it.

[sooner_born_1960]

My kids didn't attend any pre-k. And I guarantee the kids that did, didn't have a leg up on anyone.

[Sooner_Bob]

I got 13 years of public education the same as everybody else, so I don't see why it matters when I started. It may have been an advantage for me to start "late" since I was more mature than my classmates.


Can you really be considered "mature" at 6? :P


With some kids it probably doesn't matter one bit when they actually start their formal learning process. If the teacher does his/her job chances are the kid will "get it" just like the rest . . .




Many of the parents of her students probably see it as free daycare, but it fulfills a role for the school. From what I understand it's a screening process as much as anything else. Since kindergarten is a lot more advanced than it used to be 20-30 years ago it's important to figure out who's really ready for it.


Kindergarten is way different today than when we were in school.