I'm Buying a New Gaming PC Today

[Pieces Hit]

I would tell you what it is but then I'd have to listen to all the pencil necked geek know it all one-upmanship saying you shouldn't have done that and I would get a _____ instead BS.

It will have a pretty cool 21'' monitor though and for the money I'm very happy.

The wife gets that piece of crap I bought last Christmas.

:D

[SoonerWood]

I would have gotten the 32" monitor. It's much cooler. :D

[Mjcpr]

I would tell you what it is but then I'd have to listen to all the pencil necked geek know it all one-upmanship saying you shouldn't have done that and I would get a _____ instead BS.

It will have a pretty cool 21'' monitor though and for the money I'm very happy.

The wife gets that piece of crap I bought last Christmas.

:D

Dude, you should've gone for the 23" flat panel. But I'm sure yours is nice too.

[Mjcpr]

I would have gotten the 32" monitor. It's much cooler. :D
DAMN YOU!!! :mad:

[SoonerWood]

And I hope you didn't get suckered into some pansy amount of RAM; like anything below 4GB

[SoonerWood]

And if it's not a dual core 4Ghz then it really can't be considered a gaming machine.

[soonerboomer93]

current games don't take advantage of dual core processors

hope you checked out maingear :D

[Pieces Hit]

I was told anything more than 2 gig of ram is just overkill.

I was gonna do 4 but thought why burn the money.

Was they wrong?

Oh carp, I've been pulled in!

[SoonerWood]

current schmurrent

[Sooner in Tampa]

I was told anything more than 2 gig of ram is just overkill.

I was gonna do 4 but thought why burn the money.

Was they wrong?

Oh carp, I've been pulled in!Dude...just hurry up and go buy it...then it is too late. :D

[Vaevictis]

current games don't take advantage of dual core processors

Future ones will ;) Besides, if you have an OS that takes advantage, then it can schedule the game on the second core, and everything else on the first core, so "everything else" isn't sucking resources the game could be using.

As far as 2GB v. 4GB goes... if you don't need it now, don't bother. By the time you DO need it, the RAM will likely be much cheaper and you can always upgrade then.

[Pieces Hit]

They also told me the processor I was getting was a 64 bit, I think, and it will be able to run the new Windows OS.
That's a lot of words for me to remember though.

[TopDaugIn2000]

AMD?

I'm getting ready to build a new one, and plan on using a new dual core 64 bit AMD processor. RAWR

[Pieces Hit]

Yep, AMD.
That's my first but I got convinced it was far better than a comparable Intel in my price range.

[TopDaugIn2000]

Yep, AMD.
That's my first but I got convinced it was far better than a comparable Intel in my price range.

good for you

[soonerboomer93]

um, intel dual core's are 64 bit

[TopDaugIn2000]

and?

AMD pawns Intel when it comes to Gaming (and most anything else)

IMO

[Vaevictis]

shrug, for the time being, 64 bit is meaningless in the Windows world. Almost nobody crunches numbers large enough to justify it, almost nobody has filesystems large enough, almost nobody has memory banks large enough.

The real key to the AMDs being better is that the architecture is better. The cores are directly connected at core clock speed instead of having to communicate via the system bus (which is typically much slower than the CPU speed), and iirc, the cores also have distinct connections to the memory banks scaling the amount of memory bandwidth with each CPU/core installed -- assuming the motherboard has sufficient connections to allow for this.

[Pieces Hit]

And this in 1st Grade English means...?

[Norm In Norman]

Gaming machines are built not bought.

[Pieces Hit]

Well, SOMEONE built it.
Besides I'm upgrading the video card. :P

[Vaevictis]

In first grade english, it means that the more processors you add, the better the AMD system will be compared to the Intel system.

At 2xCPU, AMD systems have ~2x memory bandwidth. At 4xCPU, about 4x. Intel chips memory bandwidth stays constant.

Also, because the Intel cores have to go to the bus to communicate with each other, any time a process on one core needs to communicate with a process on the other, it has to do so at the speed of the bus (which is usually 50% as fast or worse). AMD's can do it at the full speed of the CPU.

In short, AMD multiple core systems scale better and handle multiple processes better.

[Pieces Hit]

Cool beans.
I am feeling more confident by the moment.

[TopDaugIn2000]

gonna tell us EXACTLY what you ordered yet???? ;)

[OULOVE]

Just in time to play with the new Lara Croft.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185078,00.html

[NormanPride]

Lara Croft HAS to have back problems. And I would think it would be tough to jump around like she does.

[Mjcpr]

Lara Croft HAS to have back problems. And I would think it would be tough to jump around like she does.

In the next game release, she crashes her SUV and admits to having a drug and alcohol problem.

[Pieces Hit]

gonna tell us EXACTLY what you ordered yet???? ;)

The PC is priced right, I think. (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7623896&type=product&id=1130986103611)

The monitor's only 250.00 w/ this system... (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7481511&type=product&id=1125466651583)

And I'm sticking in this video card. (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7634795&type=product&id=1130987444322)

Not the greatest but seems pretty good for the money.

Tell me how dumb I am now.

[IB4OU2]

In the next game release, she crashes her SUV and admits to having a drug and alcohol problem.

Poor ole :eddie: .........

[soonerboomer93]

anything that says gateway, dell, hp or compaq on the front isnt' a true gaming system

[soonerboomer93]

and?

AMD pawns Intel when it comes to Gaming (and most anything else)

IMO

just education for those under the false assumption that amd is the only 64 bit platform

[soonerboomer93]

The real key to the AMDs being better is that the architecture is better. The cores are directly connected at core clock speed instead of having to communicate via the system bus (which is typically much slower than the CPU speed), and iirc, the cores also have distinct connections to the memory banks scaling the amount of memory bandwidth with each CPU/core installed -- assuming the motherboard has sufficient connections to allow for this.

the integrated memory controller on dye is the most important part of this because it cycles the memory faster and it runs memory at cpu speeds. the key component of this though is have cas 3 or lower ddr in dual channel mode. if memory isn't up to par, the advantage starts to slip.

[Pieces Hit]

anything that says gateway, dell, hp or compaq on the front isnt' a true gaming systemAnd it begins...

[SoonerWood]

I prefer Nvidia over ATI. I've got a few friends that have had trouble with some games using ATI video. I can't recall which games though.

As for processors, the rule of thumb I've always used was that AMD are better for games and CAD, where Intel is better for audio and video editing.

[TopDaugIn2000]

heh

Looks like a good machine. But I am not the BEST at this. I build my own, but don't do HEAVY gaming or anything.

The only thing is that it's short on Video memory, but you took care of that.

[Pieces Hit]

"I prefer Nvidia over ATI. I've got a few friends that have had trouble with some games using ATI video. I can't recall which games though."

I've heard that as well but dunno either.

[Pieces Hit]

heh

Looks like a good machine. But I am not the BEST at this. I build my own, but don't do HEAVY gaming or anything.

The only thing is that it's short on Video memory, but you took care of that.Yeah, I was thinking it would be okay.
I would disable all the crap in the startup and delete pre-installed crap.
I personally don't have the know how for a home built job or the cash for an elitist gaming rig.
This oughta do, I hope.

[SoonerWood]

It'll do quite nicely and keep you gaming at least for the next few months. :D I'm using an AMD 3.2Ghz, 2GB RAM, 256MB Nvidia 6800 and it'll handle anything I throw at it.

[Pieces Hit]

Thanks for the assurance.
I been iffy about the whole AMD ATI thing.
I'm used to Intel and Nvidia ya know.

[SoonerWood]

Why not go AMD/Nvidia?

[Pieces Hit]

Well the Nvidia was quite a bit more $$$ if I remember right.
The service guy touted the ATI 512 meg card as being darn good for 300.00.
However, I may get them to honor this internet price and save 250.00 over the store price.
Any suggestions on a card they have?
I gotta keep the whole mess under 2K.

[Pieces Hit]

NOTE:
Our tech guy here's telling me to stick with AMD and ATI and not match AMD with Nvidia as there can be conflicts with the chip sets or something.

?

[SoonerWood]

Been using AMD and Nvidia since forever - zero problems. Sounds like he's probably just an ATI homer. :D

[Pieces Hit]

I will ask the other homers what they say about it too.
Frankly, I know very little about hardware.
But you already knew that.

I like Age of Empires III and Roller Coaster Tycoon III though.

[SoonerWood]

you could play those on a 2Ghz CPU, 128MB video card just fine

[Pieces Hit]

Got my new thing last night.
Not overly impressed yet but need to get a DVI cable to replace the VGA connection before I knee jerk the system to the return counter.
It does seem pretty fast at high res with all effects turned on though.