OU-Baylor thread, beyonces?????

[OKC-SLC]

need updates. game not on here, doggs.

[OUSanders]

is the game on anywhere?

[OKC-SLC]

apparently on ESPN+ there. I'm left with delayed broadcast.

http://www.reachingmore.com/kkgm.HTM

[OUSanders]

found it, channel 11 cox in Midwest city

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

3-2 OU 18:23

[OKC-SLC]

198-0 OU up according to BBS. Scoreboard malfunction.

Think we could hang on to win that?

[Big Red Ron]

6-2 OU

ESPN plus

[OKC-SLC]

for those who can see the game--how does the crowd look?

[Big Red Ron]

another great turnout by the students. :rolleyes:

[OKC-SLC]

another great turnout by the students. :rolleyes:
seriously? or sarcastic-like?

[Big Red Ron]

for those who can see the game--how does the crowd look?Empty

[Big Red Ron]

seriously? or sarcastic-like?There are empty seats in the best parts of the student section.

[OKC-SLC]

ahh, now i see your smiley face thing. didn't load earlier.

[Big Red Ron]

Bookout looks like he reinjured his wrist.

[OKC-SLC]

man, when i was an undergrad at OU (1995-1999), i think the students did a good jorb. At the time, BB is all we had (Boo was busy stocking up for the MNC in 2000--insert sarcastic smiley here).

Maybe students succ these days? Maybe they're too busy working on their horns-down hand signs for non-UTgames (insert another smiley thing).

[Big Red Ron]

man, when i was an undergrad at OU (1995-1999), i think the students did a good jorb. I was there then too. The students now do not support BBall like they did in the mid to late 90's.

7-8 OU

Looks like another barn burner.

[Okieflyer]

Slow start.

[Okieflyer]

Three by Neal!
8 - 11 OU
12:46

[Okieflyer]

Carter loses it out of bounds.

[Okieflyer]

Griffin fouled!
8 - 13 OU
12:08

[King Crimson]

13-8 OU

Bob Barry at an all time worst.

[Okieflyer]

Griffin fouled again.

[OKC-SLC]

appreciate the updates. My internet broadcast keeps cutting out.

Of course, that might be a good thing, huh KC.

[OKC-SLC]

in other sports news, USA vs Sweden in women's hockey is on USA network.

with 6 minutes left, USA winning 5-0.

love that sh*t.

[Okieflyer]

Griffin makes two free throws

15 - 8 OU

[Okieflyer]

OU on a 11 - 1 run

[Okieflyer]

Two by Gray
19 - 10 OU
10:43

[Okieflyer]

10:33
Timeout Baylor.

[Okieflyer]

Everett for three!
22 - 10 OU
9:43

[Okieflyer]

appreciate the updates. My internet broadcast keeps cutting out.

Of course, that might be a good thing, huh KC.

See quote! :D

[Okieflyer]

Put back on missed free throw!
25 - 10 OU
9:27

[Okieflyer]

Double dribble on Everett.

[Okieflyer]

First foul on Griffin.

[Frozen Sooner]

Lookin pretty sharp. Great way to overcome a hangover.

Not for them. Me. Ow.

[Okieflyer]

Bruce makes two FT.
25 - 12 OU
8:40

[Okieflyer]

Rebound for LL.
Everett fouled on other end.

[ouflak]

Where the heck did I get the idea that this game was starting at 8:00 pm?

[Okieflyer]

Everett makes two FT
27 - 12 OU
8:13

[Okieflyer]

Timeout
27 - 14 OU
7:41

[Okieflyer]

Bookout shooting FT

[Okieflyer]

Makes Two.
29 - 14 OU
7:30

[Okieflyer]

Travel on Bush.
OU ball

[Okieflyer]

Godbolt missed three.
Bayor Charge on other end.

[Okieflyer]

Gray missed a two.

[Okieflyer]

Alley opp to Gray for two!
31 - 14 OU

[Frozen Sooner]

Man, I wish I could see Taj's dunk on that break.

[Okieflyer]

Turn over on Baylor. Ou ball.

[Okieflyer]

Under to Gray for two more.
33 - 14 OU
4:23

[Okieflyer]

Man, I wish I could see Taj's dunk on that break.
It was nice!
Baylor makes 1 of 2 FT.
33 - 15 OU

[ouflak]

Well, we seem to be scoring well at this point.

[Okieflyer]

Hook shot by Bookout.
35 - 15 OU
3:21

[Okieflyer]

TIMEOUT!

[Okieflyer]

Carter shooting two FT.
37 - 15 OU
2:38

[PrideTrombone]

There's no crying in basketball, Bruce.

[Okieflyer]

Fields for Baylor Hurt.
Doesn't look too bad.

[Okieflyer]

37 - 17 OU
2:20

[King Crimson]

friend of mine tells me that this game is on the YES (Yankee) network in NYC.

he could care less, but has it on TV....while i've got BBsr on radio streaming.

[Okieflyer]

Carter miss.
1:12

[Okieflyer]

Bush fouled and shooting one on one.
Misses!

[Okieflyer]

Walker fouled and shooting two.
Makes one.
38 - 17 OU
52.3

[birddog]

Happy to say the game is on altitude for any of you in colorado. just an FYI.

[Okieflyer]

38 - 17 OU

HALFTIME!!!

[birddog]

I was hoping we could score 100 today. Woulda been kinda fun.

[birddog]

Predictions on Sooners on Big 12 team?

[birddog]

Predictions on Sooners on Big 12 team?
Bull$hit list...no sooners.

[Big Red Ron]

Najera and Hollis could have easily made the team.

[birddog]

I thought Hollis was a gimme but I am a sooner fan.

[Okieflyer]

Najera and Hollis could have easily made the team.
I agree with you, but it's hard to gripe with who they did pick.

[Big Red Ron]

I would have put Hollis in above Heinrick and Fizer and LaFrenz. There was nothing that said you had to choose by position. I could even argue Hollis over Ford.

[birddog]

I would have put Hollis in above Heinrick and Fizer and LaFrenz. There was nothing that said you had to choose by position. I could even argue Hollis over Ford.
I will definitely agree with you on that.

[birddog]

gotta get to the dog park fellas. Enjoy the game.

[Okieflyer]

Bookout six points in a row.
44 - 19 OU
18:05

[ouflak]

Very nice! I like to see us keep scoring.

[Okieflyer]

Neal for THREE!!!!
47 - 19 OU
17:34

[MojoRisen]

Dude that Sky hook was sweet!

[Okieflyer]

Three for Neal!!!
50 - 19 OU
16:45

[Okieflyer]

Baylor finally makes a FG and is fouled.
50 - 22 OU
16:44

[Okieflyer]

Three for Baylor
50 - 25 OU

[Okieflyer]

Foul by Bayor on Gray.

[Okieflyer]

Carter misses a three. Two for Baylor on the other end.

[Okieflyer]

Bookout misses, out to Baylor.
50 - 27 OU
15:17

[Okieflyer]

8 - 0 baylor run.

[Okieflyer]

Bookout fouled.

[Okieflyer]

Bookout makes one. Rebound to OU
51 - 27 OU

[Okieflyer]

Allyoop to Griffin from Everett.
53 - 27 OU
13:24

[Okieflyer]

bAYLOR WILL SHOOT TWO.

[Okieflyer]

55 - 30 OU
12:38

[Okieflyer]

55 - 32 OU
after Baylor FTs
12:23

[Okieflyer]

OU getting sloppy.
55 - 34 OU

[Frozen Sooner]

Chris Walker is the antithesis of a good player. Wow.

[Okieflyer]

Timeout!
55 - 34 OU
11:41

[Okieflyer]

Chris Walker is the antithesis of a good player. Wow.
Ever since Yanish left, they've needed a momentum killer on the team.;)

[IronSooner]

Who is chris walker? Has he played yet this year?

[Frozen Sooner]

Do not mention the man-child that is Jason Yanish in the same breath as Chris Walker.

[OKC-SLC]

i would like to take this time to note that my 3 month old daughter broke in her first 6-9 months Sooner outfit today with the Baylor game for the purposes of establishing good Karma.

We'll see how it does in March, eh?

[Frozen Sooner]

Well YEAH! Now we have the mo back...

[ouflak]

This is great!

[OKC-SLC]

sounds like a nice dunk by taj

[Frozen Sooner]

For the record, at this point in the game, even if we hadn't scored a SINGLE POINT in the second half we'd be tied.

Baylor=antithesis of good basketball team.

Sorry SicEm.

[Frozen Sooner]

Oh my. Soonersports has both Kellen and Walker in the game. Will we see the offensive stylings of Michael Ott?

We need to start running isos for Sampson, Ott, and Longar. I want scores from the whole roster.

[OKC-SLC]

For the record, at this point in the game, even if we hadn't scored a SINGLE POINT in the second half we'd be tied.

don't tempt them; they might do it next time. we know they're fully capable of it.

[King Crimson]

For the record, at this point in the game, even if we hadn't scored a SINGLE POINT in the second half we'd be tied.

Baylor=antithesis of good basketball team.

Sorry SicEm.

well, Baylor beat Missouri and buried Quin Snyder.....and Missouri beat us this year at the LNC.

[Frozen Sooner]

At that particular point in the season, we=antithesis of good team.

[OKC-SLC]

....and Missouri beat us this year at the LNC.
one of the worst KS losses evar, in my opinion.

[Okieflyer]

Taj shooting FTs
71 - 43 OU
6:55

[Frozen Sooner]

well, Baylor beat Missouri and buried Quin Snyder.....and Missouri beat us this year at the LNC.

And as I've mentioned on other boards, I don't know what deal with the devil Quinny-poo made after the Elite 8 so that he could get into Kelvin so badly yet be so ineffective elsewise.

[Okieflyer]

Sheppard fouls LL.

[Okieflyer]

LL makes 2 FTs
73 - 43 OU
5:55

[OKC-SLC]

we're 19-22 from free throw line.

i wish we could bottle that mojo for some closer games

[Frozen Sooner]

RUN SOME DAMN ISO FOR KELLEN!

Well, with the foul at least he's on the stat sheet.

[Okieflyer]

Block by LL

[IronSooner]

we're 19-22 from free throw line.

i wish we could bottle that mojo for some closer games

No joke. Maybe we're seeing the results of the practices put in after the ****-poor FT games we've had lately.

[OKC-SLC]

RUN SOME DAMN ISO FOR KELLEN!

Well, with the foul at least he's on the stat sheet.
heh.

[Okieflyer]

we're 19-22 from free throw line.

i wish we could bottle that mojo for some closer games

You know it's our day when LL makes two FT in a row.

[Okieflyer]

Baylor for three.
73 - 47 OU
4:12

[OKC-SLC]

sounds like LL has made some nice plays as well

[Okieflyer]

Timeout
73 - 47 OU
3:51

[Okieflyer]

75 - 47 OU
3:21

[Frozen Sooner]

Holy cow. Longar Longar 4-4 at the line. I am officially flabbergasted.

[OKC-SLC]

You know it's our day when LL makes two FT in a row.
...twice in a row.

[Okieflyer]

LL shooting FTs again.
Makes one.
76 - 47 OU

[Frozen Sooner]

At this point, I'm willing to let L2 shoot technicals for the rest of the year.

[Okieflyer]

Baylor makes 1 of 1
76 - 48 OU
2:26

[Frozen Sooner]

Man, they're trying hard to get Kellen some points.

[Okieflyer]

Griffin makes one.
78 - 48 OU
1:44

[Okieflyer]

We need Texas to get beat.

[Okieflyer]

78 - 50 OU
1:17

[BoomerSoonhauer]

If we're gonna blow this lead , , , , we better hurry LOL

[Okieflyer]

78 - 52 OU
47.2

[Okieflyer]

80 - 52 OU
30.0

[snp]

Kellen gets my gameball.

[OKC-SLC]

Kellen gets my gameball.
nttawwt

[ouflak]

:)

[OKC-SLC]

nice game by OU. Good to beat the hell out of a team we should beat the hell out of.

[Okieflyer]

80 - 52 FINAL!!!OU WIN!!!

Colorado is next!

[snp]

Set myself up for that one.

[IronSooner]

Good game guys, way to finally close one out.

[SicEmBaylor]

Well congrats on a very well won game.

Damn it all to hell though it was ugly for us.

Still, I have long term faith in Scott Drew. He's bringing in recruits he should never be able to bring in at this stage at Baylor. And he's won two more games this season then many predicted us to win.

I'm not making excuses that would be Aggy - we played like crap, but it'll take awhile for us to build anything from the ashes of the Bliss era.

Like I said good game. Keep that Big XII title out of Austin!

[walkoffsooner]

fun game to watch lots of action.Good game guys

[CtheB]

Once again, another Kelvin team getting wise and looking better come February. Dominating win.

[oumartin]

so, I was sleeping during the game. What caused this awesome offensive output?
Clickin' on all cylinders today!

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

KELLEN HURDLED A BENCH!!!!

[Big Red Ron]

so, I was sleeping during the game. What caused this awesome offensive output?
Clickin' on all cylinders today!Baylor's coach pulled all the starters at one point and put in all the back ups and Baylor got better. They suck, baaaaad.

[oumartin]

freakin' baffles me that you can beat baylor that bad and baylor beats missouri and Missouri beats OU on their home court.. Just weird

[SicEmBaylor]

Baylor's coach pulled all the starters at one point and put in all the back ups and Baylor got better. They suck, baaaaad.

They weren't giving their best so Drew pulled them for some guys who might. That's a KMR thing to do too. There's no denying we're bad, but we've had so little to work with. When Drew came in just after Blisstake we didn't even have enough players to really field a team, so he held open tryouts for anyone at Baylor. We ended up with a team of mostly walk on students that were already at school. However, he was able to recruit some pretty good talent and then we got hit with sanctions just shy of the death penalty.

Like I said it's going to be rough for awhile.

[MikeInNorman]

What caused this awesome offensive output?
Clickin' on all cylinders today!

Chuck Long?

[GottaHavePride]

However, he was able to recruit some pretty good talent and then we got hit with sanctions just shy of the death penalty.

I still think that should change, in all sports. The coach committing the violations should get the penalties, not the new guy trying to clean up after him.

[SicEmBaylor]

I still think that should change, in all sports. The coach committing the violations should get the penalties, not the new guy trying to clean up after him.

Or the players. None of the current roster was involved in the situation and only one member of the team reamins from the Bliss era.

[Frozen Sooner]

And yet the school allowed it to happen under their watch and should shoulder some of the burden...

I know it's fashionable to feel sorry for Baylor and the poor kids who're playing there, but Scott Drew and all those kids knew Baylor was going to get the hammer before they signed up.

[SicEmBaylor]

And yet the school allowed it to happen under their watch and should shoulder some of the burden...

I know it's fashionable to feel sorry for Baylor and the poor kids who're playing there, but Scott Drew and all those kids knew Baylor was going to get the hammer before they signed up.

Well, I don't think anyone really disagrees with your statement. I mean there are consequences to breaking the rules; we all know that. It's an issue of severity. All things considered after the penalties we imposed on ourselves; what end was served by the severity of the sanctions? Everyone involved expected sanctions, and I admit they were justified. However, the severity of those sanctions is questionable. This is a matter of opinion obviously.

And honestly who wouldn't be a little peeved about being punished for something you had no part in? I know they knew what they were getting themselves into at Baylor, but wouldn't any student athlete be mad about having half his season taken away becuase of something a coach did before you even got there?

I'd also like to point out that nearly everyone involved in this is now gone. Sloan resigned as President and moved to Chancellor. Stanton the AD is gone. Bliss is gone. Every player but one is gone. And even happier but unrelated to this event...Steele is gone.

Hopefully after this season all of that mess will be totally behind us and we can finally and truly move forward. At the end of this season I never want to hear the words Dotson or Bliss again. Baylor is like one big family, and I hate that the family and university that I love with every bone in my body has had its reputation soiled in this way. I hate that almost everytime I see Baylor mentioned in the media it includes the obligatory mention of Bliss' corruption and the murder of a teammate. We're a great institution with great kids and a faculty and staff who truly care about the students and the school.

We're putting ourselves back together and trying to create a winning attitude throughout the entire athletic department. This mess and this season will be a distant memory when we're on top and the rest of the conference learns to FEAR THE BEAR. :D

[Frozen Sooner]

SOMEONE DIED AND A UNIVERSITY OFFICIAL ATTEMPTED TO COVER IT UP!!!!!!

You're complaining about the severity of the penalties? SOMEONE DIED!

[OKC-SLC]

SOMEONE DIED AND A UNIVERSITY OFFICIAL ATTEMPTED TO COVER IT UP!!!!!!

You're complaining about the severity of the penalties? SOMEONE DIED!
heh.

[SicEmBaylor]

SOMEONE DIED AND A UNIVERSITY OFFICIAL ATTEMPTED TO COVER IT UP!!!!!!

You're complaining about the severity of the penalties? SOMEONE DIED!

Well, to be fair nobody tried to cover up the fact that he was dead. That was pretty obvious. The Dennehy murder and NCAA violations weren't EXACTLY one in the same issue. The problem was that after the murder there was a lot of scrutiny on the basketball program which led to the uncovering of the NCAA violations including Bliss telling players to portray Dennehy as a drug dealer and paying for tuition and other expenses for the players.

The University is ultimately responsible for not keeping the athletic department and basketball progam on a tighter leash. They surely won't make that mistake again. However, I'd look at the way we responded to the situation as compared to other universities who try to shirk responsibility after getting caught. Our President resigned (though admittedly a lot of it had to do with non-scandal related management), our AD was fired, our coach was fired, the school let any players transfer out who wanted out, we opened up an investigative panel to air all of our dirty laundry, we put sanctions and peanalties on ourselves, and we entirely changed the way the school manages the Athletic Department. After all that we were all ready and even willing to accept NCAA sanctions to put it all behind us, but I don't think anyone thought they'd be as severe as they were.

I guess there are some who think a death penalty would have been in order.

[Frozen Sooner]

Parse words all you want. You can say all you want that technically Baylor was only being punished for violations of pay-for-play rules and recruiting issues.

A player on the Baylor basketball team lost his life. He was killed by another player on the team. The head basketball coach tried to cover it up because it might have revealed him paying for some non-allowed expenses.

Your response is that "Well, hey, the university fired everybody involved and changed some oversight procedures!" You act like Baylor's actions were somehow heroic and talk about other schools that "shirk" their responsibilities-find me ONE university that had a head coach cover up a player's murder of another player that DIDN'T at the very least fire the entire coaching staff.

You're COMPLETELY missing the point.

That's an appropriate response to finding pay-for-play. That's an appropriate response for academic fraud. BOTH of which would have landed Baylor on probation from the NCAA regardless of self-imposed sanctions (unless those sanctions included probation.)

Baylor University employees tried to cover up the fact that a Baylor student-athlete murdered another student-athlete. A person lost his LIFE, and you're complaining that not being able to compete in some freaking basketball games is an unfair sanction for the university?

Tell you what, I'll make you a deal:

If an OU player in ANY sport commits murder and isn't IMMEDIATELY kicked off the team, out of school, and handed over to the authorities for prosecution as soon as their head coach finds out about it, I'll call for an all-sports death penalty at OU. The head coach has to KNOW that the kid committed murder.

[OKC-SLC]

Froz, why don't you stick around this site. Good points. For a noob.