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Beef
2/9/2006, 07:40 PM
Live in Oklahoma unless they play for the Hornets or Sooners. At least according to Charles Barkley. Also, all us hillbillies have chickens and cows in our yards according to him.

OUAndy1807
2/9/2006, 07:42 PM
I was really excited when I saw the title of this thread and then severely disappointed when I read it's contents.

Okla-homey
2/9/2006, 08:07 PM
Sir Charles and Bo Jackson,the two most famous Alabama athletes of the last quarter of the twentieth century -- from Auburn too BTW. :D

Yeah I know, that bugs them Tider's bad. Me likey.

RacerX
2/9/2006, 08:09 PM
He is so drunk.

oumartin
2/9/2006, 08:37 PM
I'm not black! if that matters

Stanley1
2/9/2006, 09:09 PM
I was born black, if that helps.

IronSooner
2/9/2006, 09:10 PM
I get pretty dark in the summer.

OklahomaTrombone
2/9/2006, 09:13 PM
I was born albino, if that helps.


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GDC
2/9/2006, 09:21 PM
Charles Barkley can kiss my brown sugar lovin cracker/Cherokee behind.

chriscappel
2/9/2006, 09:42 PM
what an ***

Okla-homey
2/9/2006, 09:48 PM
Barkley's a funny dude. I'm sure he was just joking. I remember hearing him interviewed on a radio program last year and the interviewer asked him if he regretted not finishing his degree. Sir Charles said, "Nope, I got plenty of folks who work for me who have degrees.":D

GDC
2/9/2006, 09:58 PM
Barkley's a funny dude. I'm sure he was just joking. I remember hearing him interviewed on a radio program last year and the interviewer asked him if he regretted not finishing his degree. Sir Charles said, "Nope, I got plenty of folks who work for me who have degrees.":D

That is funny, but when I hear genetic freaks of nature like the Round Mound of Rebound and even Shaq bag on college graduates it bothers me because such a minute fraction of the population has the gifts they have to play pro ball and make tons of money that way.

royalfan5
2/9/2006, 10:02 PM
That is funny, but when I hear genetic freaks of nature like the Round Mound of Rebound and even Shaq bag on college graduates it bothers me because such a minute fraction of the population has the gifts they have to play pro ball and make tons of money that way.
I wouldn't call Barkley a genetic freak, at least not physically. He was very undersized for power forward, and got by more on intagiblies than raw ability.

Okla-homey
2/9/2006, 10:03 PM
That is funny, but when I hear genetic freaks of nature like the Round Mound of Rebound and even Shaq bag on college graduates it bothers me because such a minute fraction of the population has the gifts they have to play pro ball and make tons of money that way.

Yep, and Barkely pretty freely concedes there was no way he was ever gonna graduate anyway. That said, he harbors no bitterness and gives a lot of money each year to Auburn. He's also a scratch golfer BTW.

GDC
2/9/2006, 10:05 PM
I wouldn't call Barkley a genetic freak, at least not physically. He was very undersized for power forward, and got by more on intagiblies than raw ability.

I guess I mean if I could have made millions, banged groupies, and been famous playing in the NBA, I probably would have shrugged off getting a degree myself. Also, as a teacher, I see far too many kids neglecting their grades, laboring under the false assumption they'll make a living playing ball someday.

sanantoniosooner
2/9/2006, 10:06 PM
San Antonio was referred to as the "trailer park of the NBA" a few years back.

You can bet OKC will get similar treatment.

I'll take some of Chuck's negative comments for all the entertainment value he brings to the table.

royalfan5
2/9/2006, 10:07 PM
Also, Shaq finished his degree a couple of years ago.

Bama/OU
2/9/2006, 10:07 PM
Charles Barkley can kiss my brown sugar lovin cracker/Cherokee behind.


http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/3458/animhand3pf.gif

King Crimson
2/9/2006, 10:46 PM
He's also a scratch golfer BTW.

some of the biggest public lies on planet earth are the "handicaps" of former athletes and celebs.

and if OKC is white bread in his eyes, what does that make Utah?

proud gonzo
2/9/2006, 10:48 PM
That is funny, but when I hear genetic freaks of nature like the Round Mound of Rebound and even Shaq bag on college graduates it bothers me because such a minute fraction of the population has the gifts they have to play pro ball and make tons of money that way.

reminds me of some barenaked ladies song lyrics.

You get your Ph.D
How happy you will be
When you get a job at Wendy's
And are honored with employee of the month

proud gonzo
2/9/2006, 10:49 PM
i think the title of his book is hilarious though.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1594200424.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

GottaHavePride
2/10/2006, 01:21 AM
I was born black, if that helps.

I was born a poor black child...

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 07:35 AM
I don't find anything he said funny. He basically said Oklahoma is a racist state. If he was white and said something like this about black people the %^&* would be hitting the fan.

Mjcpr
2/10/2006, 08:35 AM
He's also a scratch golfer BTW.

What? He hides it well. In those celebrity events that I've seen him in, he was hacking it all over the place. Believe me, I know what that looks like.

Maybe he improved A LOT.

sanantoniosooner
2/10/2006, 08:49 AM
I don't find anything he said funny. He basically said Oklahoma is a racist state. If he was white and said something like this about black people the %^&* would be hitting the fan.
Apparently you never watch Chuck.

It's a well established fact that he says crazy stuff sometimes and gets away with it because "he's Charles".

Go burn an embassy. It will make you feel better.

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 08:51 AM
Apparently you never watch Chuck.

It's a well established fact that he says crazy stuff sometimes and gets away with it because "he's Charles".

Go burn an embassy. It will make you feel better.
That still doesn't make it right.

Okieflyer
2/10/2006, 08:51 AM
Live in Oklahoma unless they play for the Hornets or Sooners. At least according to Charles Barkley. Also, all us hillbillies have chickens and cows in our yards according to him.

You mean you don't?;)

Okla-homey
2/10/2006, 08:52 AM
Apparently you never watch Chuck.

It's a well established fact that he says crazy stuff sometimes and gets away with it because "he's Charles".

Go burn an embassy. It will make you feel better.

Lighten up Francis.;)

crawfish
2/10/2006, 09:05 AM
I was born black, if that helps.

I was born a poor black child...

Pieces Hit
2/10/2006, 09:08 AM
He has obviously never been to North Tulsa.

Beef
2/10/2006, 10:09 AM
You mean you don't?;)
I have a very large dog that looks like a small cow.

And for some context of what Sir Charles was saying, this was immediately after an interview with Chris Paul. He was basically saying that he would never go to Oklahoma because there are no black people. He said it in a joking way, but the fact that he repeated it several times makes me think that he believes it. I love Barkley. He was my favorite player while he was playing, but I hate seeing this kind of ignorance. Stereotyping, even in a joking way, is based on someone's perception.

C&CDean
2/10/2006, 10:17 AM
I happened to see a replay of it on the news.

Barkley made a complete and total dip**** out of himself. He admitted he's never been here, gave Paul all kinds of crap for playing here, and went on and on about Oklahoma not being good to black people. Called it a "barren wasteland" or some such ****.

I've always liked Barkley. But I have to wonder about racist bull**** coming from a black man from Alabama. I'm not real sure about it, but I'd be willing to bet there were more crosses burned in black folks' front yards in Alabama than there are crosses on churches in Oklahoma.

**** off Barkley. If you were white and said the same thing about Detroit your *** would be in the unemployment line.

usmc-sooner
2/10/2006, 10:21 AM
I bet he fantasizes about Chocolate City


and white women

GDC
2/10/2006, 10:24 AM
It's the Howard Cosell syndrome of being controversial to enhance ratings.

OU Adonis
2/10/2006, 11:06 AM
He totally ripped on the state. I didn't find anything he said funny, I love being from here and don't appreciate the negative press on something like this.

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 11:26 AM
I happened to see a replay of it on the news.

Barkley made a complete and total dip**** out of himself. He admitted he's never been here, gave Paul all kinds of crap for playing here, and went on and on about Oklahoma not being good to black people. Called it a "barren wasteland" or some such ****.

I've always liked Barkley. But I have to wonder about racist bull**** coming from a black man from Alabama. I'm not real sure about it, but I'd be willing to bet there were more crosses burned in black folks' front yards in Alabama than there are crosses on churches in Oklahoma.

**** off Barkley. If you were white and said the same thing about Detroit your *** would be in the unemployment line.
I agree totally. I can't believe all the people who are just dismissing this saying thats just Barkley being Barkley. If I recall right there have been several white sportscasters fired for saying much less.

BeetDigger
2/10/2006, 11:31 AM
He's from Alabama and he's putting down Oklahoma as a state of backwards hillbillies. Heh. Alabama smack. That's rich.

Tear Down This Wall
2/10/2006, 11:32 AM
That is funny, but when I hear genetic freaks of nature like the Round Mound of Rebound and even Shaq bag on college graduates it bothers me because such a minute fraction of the population has the gifts they have to play pro ball and make tons of money that way.

I've got a cousin like this. He's not a pro athlete, but he's a guy who never went to college and inherited his dad's business. His dad also helped him get out of a sticky drunk driving accident and arrest.

So, my brother and I, college graduates, are at a family reunion with him a few years back and he says to us, "I don't know why you guys wasted you're time in college. I never went and I've done just fine."

Yeah. More like, you're dad did well, then hired you, bailed you out of a DWI, and then handed you the keys to the shop. Butthole.

Mixer!
2/10/2006, 11:37 AM
Maybe Sir Charles was referring to this (http://www.stwnewspress.com/story.php?id=6319&type=news)?

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 11:38 AM
Maybe Sir Charles was referring to this (http://www.stwnewspress.com/story.php?id=6319&type=news)?
The reader login?

Mixer!
2/10/2006, 11:59 AM
The reader login?
GAH! Stupid newspaper logins..


Buntin found not guilty of murder

By Van Mitchell
Staff Writer


A 12-person jury Wednesday acquitted John Gilbert Buntin, 65, of first-degree
murder and feloniously pointing a firearm in the September 2003 shooting death
of Darran Keith Brannon, 33.

The jurors rendered their verdict close to noon in Payne County District Court.
They began their deliberations late Tuesday afternoon.

Buntin is the former landlord of Janeene Sumpter and Brannon, her common-law
husband. The couple rented a house from Buntin at 1609 S. Hartford before
moving to another home at 1307 S. Duncan, where the shooting occurred.

Buntin could have been sentenced to life without parole if convicted.

Buntin, who claimed self-defense, testified Tuesday that he thought he saw
Brannon reaching for a weapon when he approached his pickup at the Duncan
Street home. He said he reached for his 30.06 rifle in the back of his truck and
was only trying to scare Brannon when the gun fired.

What Buntin thought was a weapon was a beer can in Brannon’s front pocket.

Defense attorney Cheryl Ramsey said she was “thrilled” at the jury’s verdict.

“We are pleased that the jury believed our client and that he was telling the
truth,” Ramsey said. “They saw the situation as it really occurred.”

During the trial, Ramsey pointed out to the all-white jury that Brannon, who was
black, had a lengthy criminal history and that Buntin, who is white, didn’t have
any criminal background.

Ramsey said she felt Buntin’s testimony made the difference with the jury.

“Mr. Buntin taking the stand and telling them from his viewpoint what happened,”
Ramsey said. “I think the differences in the two backgrounds made it to where
he was telling the truth because of the circumstances he was in.”

Ramsey said Buntin has dealt with the shooting and trial as best as he could.
She said he wouldn’t be able to comment because there is a civil suit, filed by
Sumpter, pending.

“He has been taking it very well because he knew he was right in the situation at
the time,” Ramsey said. “He is sorry there was a death. But at the same time,
he felt like he was in a position that he had to do that.”

Payne County District Attorney Robert Hudson had a different view.

“I’m disappointed with the jury’s verdict,” Hudson said. “But, I respect that those
are 12 peers who heard all of the evidence. I believe that the (Stillwater) Police
Department did a good job with the case.”

Tuesday, Hudson had asked Payne County District Judge Donald Worthington
to add a first-degree manslaughter option for the jury to consider; Worthington
denied the motion.

Hudson said having only the murder option may have played a part in the jury’s
decision.

“It’s tough for a jury when the minimum punishment was life in prison for murder.
I’m sure that had something to do with their decision,” Hudson said. “I still think
the facts are very clear as to what happened.”

After the verdict was read, the jurors were polled about their votes. Each said
their vote was not guilty, but one juror hesitated before answering.

Hudson said he noticed that juror’s hesitation.

“The one thing that I have learned about juries is that whatever you think, it is
just usually the opposite,” Hudson said.

Several members of Brannon’s family attended the trial, including Kermit
Brannon, Sr., of Tulsa, an uncle of Brannon.

“I’m highly disappointed,” Brannon said after the verdict. “It was very obvious to
me that it was a black-white crime from the beginning. Then there is an all-white
jury trying to convict a white man of killing a black man. There ain’t no way in
the world that you can make me think that (Buntin) was going to come out of
there with a not guilty verdict.”

OU Adonis
2/10/2006, 12:18 PM
Thats no worse than the OJ trial.

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 12:22 PM
Its really pretty simple. If you're white and make a racist statement you're a horrible person. If you're black and make a racist statement its ok.

Beef
2/10/2006, 12:24 PM
Charles is just ****ed that the Hornets couldn't succeed in the "Great Chocolate City" and are thriving in Crackerville.

OU Adonis
2/10/2006, 12:51 PM
Charles is just ****ed that the Hornets couldn't succeed in the "Great Chocolate City" and are thriving in Crackerville.

You know I think CP3 handled the whole interview well. He was very complimentary of Oklahoma City.

okienole3
2/10/2006, 01:16 PM
i don't really care about it. i think okc should use it as a pr thing and fly him in for a game and take him around bricktown, cowboy hall of fame, oak tree, big dinner @ mickey mantle's etc... they could set it up with tnt for them to follow him around with a camera crew, maybe do a live look-in with him at halftime of the game. i think it would be funny to see barkley interacting with the folks at (insert popular club name here).

we should start an email campaign to TNT, the Hornets, Mayor Mick, et al

C&CDean
2/10/2006, 02:55 PM
i don't really care about it. i think okc should use it as a pr thing and fly him in for a good, ol' fashioned lynching. You know, cause that's what us Oklahoma crackahs do to the brothers all the time.

Fixed.

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 03:13 PM
Heh!

GDC
2/10/2006, 03:18 PM
It used to carck me up when my ex's family or associates referred to me as "the European".

okienole3
2/10/2006, 03:18 PM
When did Charles say that we were honkeys and hung black people? I think people are taking this thing and running with it. Much ado about nothing if you ask me.

C&CDean
2/10/2006, 03:19 PM
When did Charles say that we were honkeys and hung black people? I think people are taking this thing and running with it. Much ado about nothing if you ask me.

Did you listen to him?

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 03:21 PM
Did you listen to him?
I can't believe people are actually taking up for the idiot.

okienole3
2/10/2006, 03:42 PM
I can't believe people are actually taking up for the idiot.

I can't believe people are getting their panties in a wad over it. Read the comments in newsok.com. Something like this brings the rednecks out of the woodworks. I wouldn't say people are sticking up for him. I think it is idiotic to say something about a place that you have never been. I just don't think that he was saying that we have lynchings everday.



Did you listen to him?


"Do you have chickens and cows in your yard?...Oklahoma is nothing but vast wasteland, no place for black people. The Oklahoma Sooners and the Hornets are the only brothers in town."



I don't see anything in that statement that reads, "Oklahoma is a bunch of rednecks that hang black people." I think that he was implying that it was an agricultural state and had wide open lands. Both of which are true. Black people normally live in urban areas, which Oklahoma has little of.

OU Adonis
2/10/2006, 03:49 PM
Let me ask you about living in Detroit, Chris. Are you woke up every day by gunfire and rapes outside your door? I couldn't do it. I mean really, Detroit is a big slum. I don’t want to go to Detroit. Its not a place for white people.


So what do you think about the above quote? How do you think that would go over?

And OKC has a population of 18% black, which is more than the national average. Yes rural Oklahoma is vastly white, but what does that have to do with anything?

C&CDean
2/10/2006, 03:50 PM
Dude, he went on and on about it. And his body language doesn't come across in what you've read. Like I said, if a white announcer did/said the same thing about Detroit or some inner-city ghetto he'd have been run outta town on a rail, Reverands Jackson-Sharp woulda had a field day, it'd be all over the national media, and the guy would never work again.

And I've got your redneck swingin'.

1stTimeCaller
2/10/2006, 03:52 PM
redneck = lil smokie

http://images.radcity.net/3178/964299.jpg

Mjcpr
2/10/2006, 03:53 PM
Black folk don't like the lake. Why is that?

C&CDean
2/10/2006, 03:54 PM
racialist

Mixer!
2/10/2006, 03:56 PM
The video (http://newsok.com/video/1757468/) from NewsOK.com (use bugmenot.com (http://bugmenot.com/) if you don't want to register).

okienole3
2/10/2006, 04:00 PM
So what do you think about the above quote? How do you think that would go over?

And OKC has a population of 18% black, which is more than the national average. Yes rural Oklahoma is vastly white, but what does that have to do with anything?

The quote about Detroit is not even close to what Barkley said about Oklahoma. Did he say anything about people in Oklahoma being anything other than white folks with cows? Now if he had said, "Hey Chris, what is it like being afraid to walk down the street in Oklahoma? Aren't you afraid that hillbilly Jim and his friends are going to pull you into the bed of their pickup and take you to a tree so that you can hang?" Or, "what is it like waking up with crosses burning in your yard?" I don't think those statements would go over well, if the person who said them was white or black.

okienole3
2/10/2006, 04:02 PM
Dude, he went on and on about it. And his body language doesn't come across in what you've read. Like I said, if a white announcer did/said the same thing about Detroit or some inner-city ghetto he'd have been run outta town on a rail, Reverands Jackson-Sharp woulda had a field day, it'd be all over the national media, and the guy would never work again.

And I've got your redneck swingin'.

I saw the video too. He asked the first question as a joke. The second part of the quote was in response to what Reggie Miller asked him. This was, at most, an uninformed comment about the economic and racial make up of the state. There was nothing hateful said about the people of the state.

C&CDean
2/10/2006, 04:03 PM
I saw the video too. He asked the first question as a joke. The second part of the quote was in response to what Reggie Miller asked him. This was, at most, an uninformed comment about the economic and racial make up of the state. There was nothing hateful said about the people of the state.

Dude, the brothers do not need another white apologist working for them. I'm just sayin'.

OU Adonis
2/10/2006, 04:07 PM
The quote about Detroit is not even close to what Barkley said about Oklahoma. Did he say anything about people in Oklahoma being anything other than white folks with cows? Now if he had said, "Hey Chris, what is it like being afraid to walk down the street in Oklahoma? Aren't you afraid that hillbilly Jim and his friends are going to pull you into the bed of their pickup and take you to a tree so that you can hang?" Or, "what is it like waking up with crosses burning in your yard?" I don't think those statements would go over well, if the person who said them was white or black.

*edited* Never mind, not worth the time *edited*

okienole3
2/10/2006, 04:08 PM
Dude, the brothers do not need another white apologist working for them. I'm just sayin'.


I agree with you that there is a double standard; but in this case, nothing was said that could be interpreted as racist.

okienole3
2/10/2006, 04:09 PM
So what do you think he meant when he said "Oklahoma isn't for black people"?


Well, I doubt that he meant that black people are hanged in downtown OKC on a regular basis. I think he was just saying that there aren't black people there and a place without black people isn't for black people.

SCOUT
2/10/2006, 04:09 PM
I agree with you that there is a double standard; but in this case, nothing was said that could be interpreted as racist.

What were your thoughts about Trent Lott's comments?

1stTimeCaller
2/10/2006, 04:09 PM
So what do you think he meant when he said "Oklahoma isn't for black people"?

That doesn't have near the ring to it that 'Virginia is for lovers' does.

okienole3
2/10/2006, 04:13 PM
What were your thoughts about Trent Lott's comments?

I assume that you are talking about the Strom Thurmond comment. First off, I think it was politically stupid. Basically, what it boiled down to was that he came off as endorsing segregation, which is something that most everyone black, white, green, purple, or blue think is/was a bad idea.

I don't think it is comparable to what Barkley said, because he wasn't directing it at anyone personally.

Flagstaffsooner
2/10/2006, 04:13 PM
i think it would be funny to see barkley interacting with the folks at (insert popular club name here).

Don't let him in a bar. When he was with the Suns he got into a barfight almost every night.

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 04:14 PM
What if Larry Bird came on and said Alabama wasn't a place for white people, and all they had was watermelons and fried chicken? You think everybody would be ok with it?

Fugue
2/10/2006, 04:16 PM
What if Larry Bird came on and said Alabama wasn't a place for white people, and all they had was watermelons and fried duck? You think everybody would be ok with it?

nobody can get this right.

SCOUT
2/10/2006, 04:16 PM
I assume that you are talking about the Strom Thurmond comment. First off, I think it was politically stupid. Basically, what it boiled down to was that he came off as endorsing segregation, which is something that most everyone black, white, green, purple, or blue think is/was a bad idea.

I don't think it is comparable to what Barkley said, because he wasn't directing it at anyone personally.

That is the comment I was referring to. I ask because you are assuming that Charles meant nothing bad with his comments but assume that Trent lot did mean bad things with his.

I think minorities in the public eye are given a huge amount of leaway (sp) and white people in similar circumstances are not.

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 04:20 PM
What Barkley said was uncalled for, racist and stupid. Its really pretty easy to see that.

okienole3
2/10/2006, 04:21 PM
I think minorities in the public eye are given a huge amount of leaway (sp) and white people in similar circumstances are not.

First off, the fact that Trent Lott was an elected official has a lot to do with his problems. Like I said, politically, it was a huge mistake. I would agree with your comment about there being a double standard. However, I don't think coming down harder on black people is the way to fix it. I think people on both sides need to loosen up a little bit.

okienole3
2/10/2006, 04:23 PM
What Barkley said was uncalled for, racist and stupid. Its really pretty easy to see that.

I would like to know what you thought was racist about that comment?


Racist adj. Based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" 2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion.

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 04:25 PM
I would like to know what you thought was racist about that comment?
That Oklahoma isn't a place for black people and the only "bruthas" here are on the Sooners and Hornets.

okienole3
2/10/2006, 04:27 PM
That Oklahoma isn't a place for black people and the only "bruthas" here are on the Sooners and Hornets.


And how is that racist? Use the definition now.

Did he say anything about not liking white people for one reason or another?

1stTimeCaller
2/10/2006, 04:27 PM
That Oklahoma isn't a place for black people and the only "bruthas" here are on the Sooners and Hornets.

I bet the Aggies are ****ed that they got left out.

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 04:42 PM
And how is that racist? Use the definition now.

Did he say anything about not liking white people for one reason or another?
He didn't say anything about not liking white people, he just implied that white people in Oklahoma don't like black people.

NormanPride
2/10/2006, 04:44 PM
I bet the Aggies are ****ed that they got left out.

They're too busy with their cows and chickens. ;)


Seriously, though. I'm in with okienole. The comment was stupid, but racist? At the most, he was saying the racial composition would make him uncomfortable. Which I would say about myself going into a primarily black area.

Now, would I get bashed a hell of a lot more for saying that than Charles did for his comment? Yes, and that's BS.

okienole3
2/10/2006, 04:45 PM
He didn't say anything about not liking white people, he just implied that white people in Oklahoma don't like black people.

How do you imply that from his statement? He said that it was "no place for black people." That could be because it is too cold, too ag, not enough bar-b-q, or a host of other reasons. Maybe he meant, black people don't or shouldn't like Oklahoma.

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 04:48 PM
How do you imply that from his statement? He said that it was "no place for black people." That could be because it is too cold, too ag, not enough bar-b-q, or a host of other reasons. Maybe he meant, black people don't or shouldn't like Oklahoma.
I think he did mean black people shouldn't like Oklahoma. Thats the worst part.

OU Adonis
2/10/2006, 04:54 PM
So its ok if I say I don't like hanging or living with black people? What about if I said I only wanted to live in a state that was white?

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 04:56 PM
So its ok if I say I don't like hanging or living with black people? What about if I said I only wanted to live in a state that was white?
If you are white you'd be a racist.

FaninAma
2/10/2006, 04:58 PM
Ol' fatboy Barkley better be kinder to us chicken & cow raising hillibillies! Hell it takes about 2000 of us to keep up with this fat @$$'s consumption of fatburgers and chickenwings!

NormanPride
2/10/2006, 05:00 PM
See, you're talking extremes. He didn't say he only wanted to be around black people. His statement implies that he is uncomfortable with the ratio of blacks to whites in Oklahoma, which is 4% below the national average.

FaninAma
2/10/2006, 05:02 PM
See, you're talking extremes. He didn't say he only wanted to be around black people. His statement implies that he is uncomfortable with the ratio of blacks to whites in Oklahoma, which is 4% below the national average.

So you agree he's a racist. Glad to see we could all come together on this issue.

usmc-sooner
2/10/2006, 05:03 PM
See, you're talking extremes. He didn't say he only wanted to be around black people. His statement implies that he is uncomfortable with the ratio of blacks to whites in Oklahoma, which is 4% below the national average.

maybe we could bus a few more in. :D

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 05:03 PM
So you agree he's a racist. Glad to see we could all come together on this issue.
If he doesn't like Oklahoma what would he think of Amarillo? :D

FaninAma
2/10/2006, 05:05 PM
maybe we could bus a few more in. :D

Is there a hurricane headed towards Watts? :eek:

1stTimeCaller
2/10/2006, 05:05 PM
well, being as there are no trees in Amarillo, maybe a little safer from the lynchings? :D

was that over the line?

FaninAma
2/10/2006, 05:06 PM
If he doesn't like Oklahoma what would he think of Amarillo? :D

I was just about to say that Barkley doesn't know what a wasteland is if he hasn't been to Amarillo so he's unquakified to speak on the subject.

NormanPride
2/10/2006, 05:08 PM
So you agree he's a racist. Glad to see we could all come together on this issue.

Not at all. Black and white cultures are different. I'd say it's pretty universal that people are more comfortable in their own cultures.

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 05:09 PM
I was just about to say that Barkley doesn't know what a wasteland is if he hasn't been to Amarillo so he's unquakified to speak on the subject.
Good steaks in Amarillo though. :D

handcrafted
2/10/2006, 05:09 PM
Well, I doubt that he meant that black people are hanged in downtown OKC on a regular basis. I think he was just saying that there aren't black people there and a place without black people isn't for black people.

It's impossible for me to describe the depth of idiocy of the above statement.

1stTimeCaller
2/10/2006, 05:09 PM
Not at all. Black and white cultures are different. I'd say it's pretty universal that people are more comfortable in their own cultures.

so you like hanging out with other racists ;)

FaninAma
2/10/2006, 05:09 PM
well, being as there are no trees in Amarillo, maybe a little safer from the lynchings? :D

was that over the line?

That's why there's so many windmills on the Texas high plains. What, you thought they were just used for water?

This is rapidly deterioating into a politically incorrect thread. :texan:

FaninAma
2/10/2006, 05:12 PM
Good steaks in Amarillo though. :D

Sorry to say that the best steaks in town are at the Hoffbrou which is a steakhouse franchise that originated in Austin, Tx? Davids is a locally owned place and it's pretty good, too.

SOONER44EVER
2/10/2006, 05:25 PM
Sorry to say that the best steaks in town are at the Hoffbrou which is a steakhouse franchise that originated in Austin, Tx? Davids is a locally owned place and it's pretty good, too.
I think I've eaten at Hoffbrau. Hasn't it been there a long time?

Jerk
2/10/2006, 06:42 PM
See, you're talking extremes. He didn't say he only wanted to be around black people. His statement implies that he is uncomfortable with the ratio of blacks to whites in Oklahoma, which is 4% below the national average.


Oh, wow, we need to import more, then, so we won't feel guilty and stuff.

sanantoniosooner
2/10/2006, 07:14 PM
Anyone surprised by the double standard should get their IQ checked right now.

It's been around for a LONG time. It's alive and well. It isn't going anywhere.

I haven't taken up for Charles so much as commented on peoples overreaction to something that has been true of Chuck for quite some time and it only bugs you now that it applies to you.

Since we are a little slow around here I'll give a free pointer........

It's OK for black people to use the "N" word........whites, not so much.

No charge.

Brasky7
2/10/2006, 07:51 PM
That Oklahoma isn't a place for black people and the only "bruthas" here are on the Sooners and Hornets.


i didn't know my mailman played ball... :D

FaninAma
2/10/2006, 08:02 PM
I think I've eaten at Hoffbrau. Hasn't it been there a long time?

15 years. The Jerry Starnes special is terrific. An 8oz top sirloin marinated in Teriyaki sauce, cooked medium on a mesquite flame and served with sauteed mushrooms. I always order it with a 16 oz mug of frosty Coors light.

Scott D
2/10/2006, 08:06 PM
Congratulations for making a 100 post collection of what has to be the stupdiest thread not started by Herr or Tuba on the South Oval in a long time.

usmc-sooner
2/10/2006, 09:14 PM
Congratulations for making a 100 post collection of what has to be the stupdiest thread not started by Herr or Tuba on the South Oval in a long time.


that's easy for you to say Scott you live in Detroit, where even the white guys are black :D

SanDiegoSoonerGal
2/10/2006, 09:23 PM
To me this is just so simple.

If a white person said Detroit was no place for white people, he/she would be tagged a racist in the blink of an eye. And rightfully so.

Yeah, I know there's a double standard, but there's no way that Barkley's remark wasn't racist.

OklahomaTuba
2/10/2006, 10:32 PM
Congratulations for making a 100 post collection of what has to be the stupdiest thread not started by Herr or Tuba on the South Oval in a long time.
Oh come on, mine are MUCH better than this one. MUCH! ;)

Scott D
2/11/2006, 01:02 AM
that's easy for you to say Scott you live in Detroit, where even the white guys are black :D

hah...man, we got some major cracka *** crackas up here ;)

there are a couple of suburbs that are so white they'd make David Duke cry in happiness.

I'm really starting to get angry about how people keep using Detroit as an example, wtf are they telling you down there?

Scott D
2/11/2006, 01:03 AM
Oh come on, mine are MUCH better than this one. MUCH! ;)

the sad part is, this statement is so true it's horrifyingly scary :)

Scott D
2/11/2006, 01:04 AM
To me this is just so simple.

If a white person said Detroit was no place for white people, he/she would be tagged a racist in the blink of an eye. And rightfully so.

Yeah, I know there's a double standard, but there's no way that Barkley's remark wasn't racist.

ok I'll say it...

Detroit isn't a place for yellow bellied run of the mill middle class white people. Now ol' Dean is welcome up here anytime he wants, cuz that's how we roll up here.

just don't tell anyone that we are going to be getting that lucrative tourism dollar from Pittsburgh white folks :)

badger
2/11/2006, 01:58 AM
charles barkley is a much better commentator than he ever would be as a basketball player... if he tried the comeback thing a la jordan.

myth #1: charles barkley is racist.
this sports illustrated cover clearly shows that mr. barkley has no racial thoughts in his mind whatsoever. NONE.
http://www.jerseygop.com/GOP-Bos/charles-barkley-6.jpg

myth #2: barkley's never been to oklahoma.
when he was with the suns, he had an exhibition game here.

myth #3: barkley is good at golf.

look at this excellent form...
http://www.post-gazette.com/images2/20040612pdlemieuxC_450.jpg

myth #4: charles won an nba championship.

...okay, so nobody has claimed that yet, but i just wanted to stick this picture in here somewhere, because it's funny and the only trophy he'll ever get to hold is Auburn's faux 2004 football national championship one... if he keeps giving money to them.
http://ibbab.free.fr/Hall_fame/Barkley/images/barhouston003_jpg.jpg

myth #5: charles should be afraid of whites wanting to assault him.

no, actually they should be afraid of him. This article, complete with mug shots, shows the police report of a mugging in Milwaukee... of none other than Joseph McCarthy. Therefore, Barkley must be communist. It's a shame that Mr. McCarthy is no longer Wisconsin's senator, or he might have been accused, hehe.
http://crime.about.com/library/blbarkleyc.htm

myth #6: charles barkley doesn't care about white people.

George Bush doesn't care about black people, but Charles, married to his (WHITE!!!!) wife Maureen since 1989, must at least care about some.

For more Charles-related humor, here's a Charles-quote site. I agree, invite him to the state, let TNT lead him with cameras in Bricktown. He may be an ***, but Oklahomans are welcoming to all, even the out-of-state ***es.

http://www.clintcam.com/barkley/

SanDiegoSoonerGal
2/11/2006, 02:18 AM
KOCO Offers Barkley Trip To Oklahoma, Hornets Game

POSTED: 10:31 am CST February 10, 2006
UPDATED: 7:42 pm CST February 10, 2006

OKLAHOMA CITY -- Former NBA star Charles Barkley has now been offered an all-expenses-paid invitation to visit Oklahoma.

KOCO-5 announced on Friday that they are extending the future hall-of-famer a personal invitation to visit Oklahoma City. The offer includes airfare, hotel, tickets to a New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets game, dinner and a night out on the town.

As of yet, there is no word on whether or not the former 76ers, Suns and Rockets star would accept.

Full Story at Link (http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/6906388/detail.html)

Bet the ...being polite...bigmouth doesn't accept.

badger
2/11/2006, 02:37 AM
even our governor is in on the discussion!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/basketball/nba/wires/02/10/2030.ap.bkn.barkley.comments.henry.0182/

...proof that this discussion never should have started in the first place.

Rusher
2/11/2006, 03:07 AM
Wow, people get mad over this? Gez....

I don't know about the racist thing, but come on, even you gotta admit his comment has some truth to it. There's pretty much nothing to do in Oklahoma except in OKC (bricktown area) and Norman (football and campus corner on weekends). I've lived here for 10 years, and I can tell that OK is way behind other states, especially the standouts like California, Texas, NY and Florida. The high level of economic advancement and diversity on those states makes OKie seems like a childplay.

okienole3
2/11/2006, 03:11 AM
It's impossible for me to describe the depth of idiocy of the above statement.


Please try, dip****.

okienole3
2/11/2006, 03:13 AM
Anyone surprised by the double standard should get their IQ checked right now.

It's been around for a LONG time. It's alive and well. It isn't going anywhere.

I haven't taken up for Charles so much as commented on peoples overreaction to something that has been true of Chuck for quite some time and it only bugs you now that it applies to you.

Since we are a little slow around here I'll give a free pointer........

It's OK for black people to use the "N" word........whites, not so much.

No charge.

The "N" word has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation.


Now I would take more issue with the fact that he called Oklahoma a "wasteland" than I would with any of the other comments. I think they were far from being racist.

OUTromBoNado
2/11/2006, 04:46 AM
I bet the Aggies are ****ed that they got left out.

Ah. Some humor out of all this. Refreshing. You make me laugh.

yermom
2/11/2006, 04:53 AM
Congratulations for making a 100 post collection of what has to be the stupdiest thread not started by Herr or Tuba on the South Oval in a long time.

do you not think it was an ignorant comment?

where is a good place for black people?

well, other than Detriot

OUTromBoNado
2/11/2006, 04:55 AM
I'm still up in the air on whether or not to classify this as a racist remark or not. I can't tell if he was being serious or joking...it looked like he was being serious.

What bothers me is that someone makes an ignorant statement (maybe he does know the population distribution and maybe he doesn't) about something as sensitive a topic like this. All it does it perpetuate a negative stereotypical view of what Oklahoma is like. Saying that crap on a SPORTS show is bull**** in my opinion and bush league. If you're going to do it, save it for a political show.

It's the same type of thing that happened to me when I went to NYC about 10 years ago. I was confronted by tons of people wanting to know if I had to dodge Indian raids on my way to school. They asked where was my cowboy hat and boots.

It's the same type of thing like everyone thinking that everyone from Oklahoma or Texas must be a hick. Or Bill Callahan calling us all "f***in' hillbillies."

Now, I'm off to figure out the best route to cross the vast wasteland that I live in to get to work tomorrow.

sanantoniosooner
2/11/2006, 09:30 AM
The "N" word has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation.


Now I would take more issue with the fact that he called Oklahoma a "wasteland" than I would with any of the other comments. I think they were far from being racist.
read my post in it's context.

The "N" word comment had it's place as I used it.

BTW......fat bottom gals has it's place in this conversation if it's in the South Oval.

okienole3
2/11/2006, 09:44 AM
read my post in it's context.

The "N" word comment had it's place as I used it.

BTW......fat bottom gals has it's place in this conversation if it's in the South Oval.

The "well, they can say it why can't we" argument is the redneck's last ditch effort to try and show a double standard.

I think the closes thing to compare this to might be Fuzzy Zeller's "fried chicken and collered greens" comment after Tiger won his first Masters. The difference is, comments about food like that have been used in offensive ways for a long time.

I think that people can be offended that he called Oklahoma a wasteland, but I challenge anyone to come up with a defensable argument, using the dictionary term, that the comment was racist. Stupid, yes. Uninformed, yes. Racist, I don't think so.

sanantoniosooner
2/11/2006, 09:51 AM
The "well, they can say it why can't we" argument is the redneck's last ditch effort to try and show a double standard.

I think the closes thing to compare this to might be Fuzzy Zeller's "fried chicken and collered greens" comment after Tiger won his first Masters. The difference is, comments about food like that have been used in offensive ways for a long time.

I think that people can be offended that he called Oklahoma a wasteland, but I challenge anyone to come up with a defensable argument, using the dictionary term, that the comment was racist. Stupid, yes. Uninformed, yes. Racist, I don't think so.
you still don't get it.

I didn't say Chuck was racist. I merely pointed out that it's silly to be surprised there is a double standard. If you don't see the double standard, then I don't know what to tell you.

You read my post and then respond to the entire thread. Kind of a redneck way of doing things.

Scott D
2/11/2006, 10:58 AM
do you not think it was an ignorant comment?

where is a good place for black people?

well, other than DetrOIt

while it's easy to understand people accidentally keying in O I backwards it still bugs me :)

If you've watched him in interviews and on that pregame show more than when the Hornets are on there for the first time in forever then you know that Charles says those kinds of things about pretty much everything that isn't Charles. He's paid by TNT to be outrageous and is encouraged because well, it helps ratings.

I think his comments were more a reflection of how unurbanized the state as a whole is. When I was at OU 3 out of every 5 other African-Americans I knew that were from in-state were from Lawton, now while I'll freely admit that I didn't know all of them that's somewhat defining that most of them tended to come from one or two places in the state.

Anyhow there's no set place that is a 'good place' because it depends on where you are comfortable and that in this country is going to be an urban, rural, or suburban setting. But to answer your question, I'd say the mindset is usually either a large urban setting (major city) or a small southeastern rural setting. Neither of which anywhere in Oklahoma could be considered.

yermom
2/11/2006, 11:41 AM
i can see that, but i still think it was kinda ****ty to say

especially right now, when we are still trying to lure an NBA team and starting to get a better image for the state

okienole3
2/11/2006, 12:03 PM
you still don't get it.

I didn't say Chuck was racist. I merely pointed out that it's silly to be surprised there is a double standard. If you don't see the double standard, then I don't know what to tell you.

You read my post and then respond to the entire thread. Kind of a redneck way of doing things.


My separate paragraphs denote separate thoughts. I was responding to you with the "N" word comments. I was issuing a challenge with the "racist" comment. If you read the entire thread, you will see that I admitted that there was a double standard, but in this case nothing was said that met any kind of standard at all.

usmc-sooner
2/11/2006, 01:16 PM
My separate paragraphs denote separate thoughts. I was responding to you with the "N" word comments. I was issuing a challenge with the "racist" comment. If you read the entire thread, you will see that I admitted that there was a double standard, but in this case nothing was said that met any kind of standard at all.

still not getting it.

Hey Oklahoma should take this and run. We should have a tourist slogan saying not NATIVE AMERICA but OKLAHOMA IT AINT FOR BLACK PEOPLE or we could say black people get out of Oklahoma it aint for you.

Now nobody in the right mind would try to argue that wouldn't be racist but when Chucky no rings on his fingers says it it's just a funny little statement. I personally don't care what he thinks, if he didn't play basketball nobody else would care what his retarded *** thought either.

Rusher
2/11/2006, 01:53 PM
Don't be a hypocrite.

We make fun of Texas and other states all the time (the Football section in this forum is the living proof), but when Charles took a shot at us, you get all ****y like your ego has just got bruised for a decade. We stereotypes a lot of things, too. We dish it, we take it. Just don't take things seriously.

Are Oklahomans really this uptight? Maybe sir Charles is right. Our mindset is way behind and outdated.

OUTromBoNado
2/11/2006, 03:01 PM
Don't be a hypocrite.

We make fun of Texas and other states all the time (the Football section in this forum is the living proof), but when Charles took a shot at us, you get all ****y like your ego has just got bruised for a decade. We stereotypes a lot of things, too. We dish it, we take it. Just don't take things seriously.

Are Oklahomans really this uptight? Maybe sir Charles is right. Our mindset is way behind and outdated.

To me, there is a slight difference in posting it on a message board where smack talk, humor, and cut-downs are frequent and just mouthing off on a national TV show.

OUTromBoNado
2/11/2006, 03:05 PM
Wow, people get mad over this? Gez....

I don't know about the racist thing, but come on, even you gotta admit his comment has some truth to it. There's pretty much nothing to do in Oklahoma except in OKC (bricktown area) and Norman (football and campus corner on weekends). I've lived here for 10 years, and I can tell that OK is way behind other states, especially the standouts like California, Texas, NY and Florida. The high level of economic advancement and diversity on those states makes OKie seems like a childplay.

It's not like Oklahoma doesn't try. The state is hardly given a chance by "the big things" that are mainstream. Look at how long the state has tried to get any kind of a major-league franchise. Oklahoma was so desparate they went as far as trying to get NHL and Major League Soccer here. Oklahoma is too often deemed as being too close to Dallas (most generally) or too close to Kansas City.

For years, the NBA thought Oklahoma was all-talk about being able to support an NBA team. I think that opinion was blown out of the water, or I am still drunk?

usmc-sooner
2/11/2006, 04:19 PM
hah...man, we got some major cracka *** crackas up here ;)

there are a couple of suburbs that are so white they'd make David Duke cry in happiness.

I'm really starting to get angry about how people keep using Detroit as an example, wtf are they telling you down there?


c'mon man we've all seen 8 Mile

;)

SOONER44EVER
2/11/2006, 04:49 PM
Barkley is an A$$HOLE. Nuff said.

usmc-sooner
2/11/2006, 04:57 PM
Wow, people get mad over this? Gez....

I don't know about the racist thing, but come on, even you gotta admit his comment has some truth to it. There's pretty much nothing to do in Oklahoma except in OKC (bricktown area) and Norman (football and campus corner on weekends). I've lived here for 10 years, and I can tell that OK is way behind other states, especially the standouts like California, Texas, NY and Florida. The high level of economic advancement and diversity on those states makes OKie seems like a childplay.

so you're saying you're in Oklahoma cause you couldn't make it in the big boys world.

NormanPride
2/11/2006, 05:02 PM
if charles doesn't accept the invite to oklahoma, don't be too upset. it is clear that he has basketballs for ears and doesn't hear what many other people say:
http://www.footstepsmagazine.com/readers/2004/12/2004-12-20d.jpg

NormanPride
2/11/2006, 06:19 PM
btw, lt. gov. fallin has also responded to barkley. with this much time to respond to barkley that our elected officials have, i hope our roads also receive the same amount of attention.
http://www.state.ok.us/~ltgov/

Rusher
2/11/2006, 09:24 PM
so you're saying you're in Oklahoma cause you couldn't make it in the big boys world.

Aww, poor guy. Are you mad again :D ?

Seriously, any entertainment in this state will do. It doesn't even have to be sports related. NYC got Empire State building that sucks in tourists like blackholes (plus it's center for supermodels and celebs to live in). Miami has Southbeach that attracts people all over the world. LA has disneylands and Pacific beaches plus Beverly Hills. Oklahoma has none of that caliber.

Is there anything particular in Oklahoma that would make people from around the world want to visit us?

okienole3
2/12/2006, 06:09 PM
Aww, poor guy. Are you mad again :D ?

Seriously, any entertainment in this state will do. It doesn't even have to be sports related. NYC got Empire State building that sucks in tourists like blackholes (plus it's center for supermodels and celebs to live in). Miami has Southbeach that attracts people all over the world. LA has disneylands and Pacific beaches plus Beverly Hills. Oklahoma has none of that caliber.

Is there anything particular in Oklahoma that would make people from around the world want to visit us?

Cowboy Hall of Fame, Softball Hall of Fame, Frontier City, Spiro Mound, that's all I got.

sanantoniosooner
2/12/2006, 06:11 PM
Cowboy Hall of Fame, Softball Hall of Fame, Frontier City, Spiro Mound, that's all I got.
Del Rancho puts all those to shame.

Scott D
2/12/2006, 07:39 PM
c'mon man we've all seen 8 Mile

;)

is this where I say 'I'm sorry'? ;)

what a piece of crap that movie was :D

Scott D
2/12/2006, 07:47 PM
It's not like Oklahoma doesn't try. The state is hardly given a chance by "the big things" that are mainstream. Look at how long the state has tried to get any kind of a major-league franchise. Oklahoma was so desparate they went as far as trying to get NHL and Major League Soccer here. Oklahoma is too often deemed as being too close to Dallas (most generally) or too close to Kansas City.

For years, the NBA thought Oklahoma was all-talk about being able to support an NBA team. I think that opinion was blown out of the water, or I am still drunk?

I was tempted to neg you for the shot at the NHL, but I'm going to pass on that. I don't think what a lot of people realize is that the way leagues generally are set up there are 'territories' and unless those teams are pre-existing any expansion of a league or inclusion of a second league (the NFL/AFL and NBA/ABA mergers being the example) it can be very very expensive to set up shop in an area that is considered the territory of teams in certain cities. OKC's proximity to Dallas for most leagues tends to be a deal killer because according to league bylaws a new OKC franchise would have to pay a huge sum of money to the Dallas franchise unless the owner of the Dallas franchise was willing to either settle for a lower sum, or waive it entirely. Really, OKC would have to do nothing more than look at the ordeal that Peter Angelos put the Washington Nationals through before they were finally allowed to set their feet down and be a franchise in that location.

Since the Hornets will be returning to New Orleans at some point (likely 2 years from now), OKC's best shot at a franchise may very well rest with the Seattle Sonics being sold by the current owner to an owner outside of Seattle who would then relocate them to OKC. I don't really think Mark Cuban may be as accomodating as he has been in regards to 'territory' with another incoming franchise as he was with the Hornets since invoking those 'rights' would have gotten him so much bad pub, he'd have been put on a par with John Kerry down there.

colleyvillesooner
5/13/2011, 01:20 AM
Scott looks pretty smart now...

sooner59
5/13/2011, 01:54 AM
He is a profit.