View Full Version : 1985-1994...a musical void?
Tear Down This Wall
2/8/2006, 05:59 PM
I was looking at this website with the Top 100 songs of the 1980s and 1990s. It looks like in the 80s, most of the best songs occurred before 1985, and in the 90s most of the best occurred after 1994.
http://www.rockonthenet.com/archive/top100_1980s.htm
http://www.rockonthenet.com/archive/top100_1990s.htm
Still, I don't see Arc Angel's 1983 masterpiece "Tragedy" anywhere. Pity.
90's pop sucked
Ricky Martin and Celine Dion are on that list, i mean come on
90's alt-rock on the other hand...
Bama/OU
2/8/2006, 06:07 PM
But what about....
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:P
mdklatt
2/8/2006, 06:07 PM
90's pop sucked
And the 00's might be even worse when all is said and done. The 80's were the Golden Age of pop music, hands down.
Pricetag
2/8/2006, 06:10 PM
I don't care who really sang the Milli Vanilli songs. They were good.
The '80s were definitley divided in half, though. You had the New Wave stuff in the first half of the decade, but then it gave way to the almost totally synthesized dance stuff of the latter half of the decade. I like them both, personally.
NormanPride
2/8/2006, 06:14 PM
And the 00's might be even worse when all is said and done. The 80's were the Golden Age of pop music, hands down.
Maybe... there have been a few good ones these past few years. You just have to enter other genres to get better music. Good techno stuff, euro dancebeat, etc...
It has been interesting to see the pop-ization of Country over the years.
mdklatt
2/8/2006, 06:22 PM
Maybe... there have been a few good ones these past few years. You just have to enter other genres to get better music. Good techno stuff, euro dancebeat, etc...
Music is a lot more fragmented now, so there aren't as many songs with mass appeal. Every muscial act is a niche act nowadays, with a correspondingly small market and short shelf life. With there ever be another group with the longevity and popularity of somebody like Aerosmith or the Rolling Stones?
colleyvillesooner
2/8/2006, 06:22 PM
1980 16
1981 22
1982 21
1983 18
1984 10
1985 7
1986 3
1987 0
1988 1
1989 2
1990 0
1991 1
1992 5
1993 12
1994 17
1995 17
1996 17
1997 6
1998 11
1999 14
NormanPride
2/8/2006, 06:26 PM
Music is a lot more fragmented now, so there aren't as many songs with mass appeal. Every muscial act is a niche act nowadays, with a correspondingly small market and short shelf life. With there ever be another group with the longevity and popularity of somebody like Aerosmith or the Rolling Stones?
The music corporations will tell you it's OF COURSE Ashlee Simpson.
Honestly, the niche bands that disappear are the corporate ones. You can find stuff that's just as good without the corporate label somewhere, and they last longer. ClearChannel has turned the airwaves into a virtual McDonalds. :(
Octavian
2/8/2006, 06:35 PM
91-95 was an amazing time for rock...not sure how they did on the charts, but if you cared about the charts, then you completely missed the point and probably think that time was absolute crap
IronSooner
2/8/2006, 06:39 PM
Yeah, my favorite years were about '92-94. Good stuff in there. 90/91 were still stepping out of the shadow of the 80's.
NormanPride
2/8/2006, 06:39 PM
91-95 was an amazing time for rock...not sure how they did on the charts, but if you cared about the charts, then you completely missed the point and probably think that time was absolute crap
I think that link just has a very limited definition of pop. Most of the bands I listened to (along with everyone in my HS) aren't on there.
Octavian
2/8/2006, 06:41 PM
Yeah, my favorite years were about '92-94. Good stuff in there. 90/91 were still stepping out of the shadow of the 80's.
Yeah 90-91 were an odd blend of Man in the Box and Cherry Pie.
95-96 were the same, grunge fumes meeting whatever the next crappy scene was...
Octavian
2/8/2006, 06:45 PM
I think that link just has a very limited definition of pop. Most of the bands I listened to (along with everyone in my HS) aren't on there.
I didnt even check out the link :O
I've always thought that music sales are an incredibly bad way to pick out good music
mdklatt
2/8/2006, 07:26 PM
Honestly, the niche bands that disappear are the corporate ones. You can find stuff that's just as good without the corporate label somewhere, and they last longer.
But if they're not corporate and getting the air time they're not going to have a large fan base.
Look at all the ginormous bands of the 80's and 90's that are still around today, and everybody has at least heard one of their songs even if they might not care for it. Who is today's Aerosmith or U2? Even a band like Metallica probably had a larger fan base than any of today's "superstars".
oumartin
2/8/2006, 07:38 PM
I'll take hair bands over that grunge crap anyday.
Cobain killed music for me.
RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/8/2006, 07:47 PM
And the 00's might be even worse when all is said and done. The 80's were the Golden Age of pop music, hands down.:) Agreed, if you leave out the '60's and '70's.
KC//CRIMSON
2/8/2006, 07:58 PM
'87 to '95 is the best/favorite stretch of music. IMHO.
GottaHavePride
2/8/2006, 08:44 PM
I liked that 1850-1900 stretch. ;)
Seriously though, I'd take Tower of Power over most bands from the past 15 years.
soonerscuba
2/8/2006, 10:28 PM
Heh, I hate 90s music, almost all of it save some grunge and hip hop. To note this the first song that doesn't make me want set my ears ablaze is 17 from the 90s.
TUSooner
2/8/2006, 10:33 PM
I liked that 1850-1900 stretch. ;)
I'd say the best stuff was from the 40s - the 1740s.
Tear Down This Wall
2/9/2006, 11:09 AM
I think the early to mid 80s did a better job of spawning chart-worthy pop and alternative music scenes than the 1990s.
For instance, you had then the pop phenoms of Michael Jackson, Madonna, Hall & Oates, and Phil Collins. At the same time, you had emerging alternative acts such as U2 and REM. The 1990s had its share of chart pop like Mariah Carey, Boys II Men, and Shania Twain, but seemed to lack enough alternative acts to counter balance. Nirvana and Alice in Chains come to mind.
The 1980s seemed to have a wider variety of acts as well. The early 1980s had a very well defined metal scene led by Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, and the Scorpions. Hard rock gave us Van Halen, Foreigner, and Journey. Punk produced Billy Idol and the Clash. New Wave produced Duran Duran and INXS. Country had Alabama and Kenny Rogers all over the place. Then there were the crossover alternatives like The Police, Peter Gabriel, and The B-52s. Rap artists Run-DMC, LL Cool J, and Public Enemy were blending into the scene as well. The 1980s also provided very successful comebacks for 70s arena rockers Boston and Aerosmith.
I don't know. It just seemed there was so much going on in so many different areas of music. I think much of the success was due to the initial MTV format, which was like the radio on TV. Video after video of a variety of acts with "Veejays" breaking in every now and then. Even if you didn't like the music, it was still interesting to watch.
Anyway, just interesting to look at the whole thing 20-25 years later.
White House Boy
2/9/2006, 11:36 AM
1987 was one of my favorite years for music.
It gave us the "Sign 'O' the Times" album by Prince, and it was by far, his best work, and one of the finest collections of funk, rock, pop, & gospel (according to Prince, that is) that there ever was.
Another beast of an album came out that year... a little record you might have heard of: The Joshua Tree. That was simply the confirmation of the greatest hinted at on U2's immediately preceeding album, Unforgetable Fire.
Just my $.02.
Appetite For Destruction was the best thing to come out of the 80's
The Joshua Tree is pretty good though
Tear Down This Wall
2/9/2006, 11:40 AM
I remember when The Joshua Tree came out. There were the ads on MTV just playing With Or Without You. They also had full page newpaper adds. One instance where the release met the hype.
White House Boy
2/9/2006, 11:57 AM
Appetite For Destruction was the best thing to come out of the 80's
The Joshua Tree is pretty good though
Good call. It's funny, I really didn't like it at the time it first came out, but a few years after it's release, it really grew on me.
RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/9/2006, 01:50 PM
Compare the '80's and'90's to the '70's. Yes, Zeppelin, Traffic, Neil Young, Moody Blues, Stones at their best, Jefferson Airplane/Starship , Slick and Kantner on their own, CSNY, EltonJohn at his best, ELO, Queen, Bad Company, Foreigner, Styx, Doors(early in the decade),Kansas, Nilsson, Jerry Jeff Walker,McCartney's best solo stuff, George Harrison's best solo stuff, Lennon's solo stuff,..the best decade for pop music!
KC//CRIMSON
2/9/2006, 06:04 PM
Appetite For Destruction was the best thing to come out of the 80's
The Joshua Tree is pretty good though
The Pixies - Surfer Rosa
you guys and your Pixies
meh
;)
NormanPride
2/9/2006, 06:21 PM
I'll take ape tits of destruction for $500.
sooneron
2/9/2006, 06:54 PM
Can someone please hum that mariah (skank biotch) and boyz to men shong for me? Not ringing a bell.
Best album of the 80's- The Smiths - The Queen is Dead, followed closely by Joshua Tree, then GnR.
IronSooner
2/9/2006, 07:05 PM
Another beast of an album came out that year... a little record you might have heard of: The Joshua Tree. That was simply the confirmation of the greatest hinted at on U2's immediately preceeding album, Unforgetable Fire.
I always forget how good Unforgettable Fire really is. The Joshua Tree is still my favorite CD evar though. If my apartment ever burns down that CDs coming out with me.
It seems to me most people consider whatever years they were in their teens to be the "golden age" of music. Aside from GHP, 'cause he's both smert AND full of musicalness.
For me, that's the 70's.
SoonerInKCMO
2/9/2006, 09:35 PM
1987 was one of my favorite years for music.
It gave us the "Sign 'O' the Times" album by Prince, and it was by far, his best work, and one of the finest collections of funk, rock, pop, & gospel (according to Prince, that is) that there ever was.
Another beast of an album came out that year... a little record you might have heard of: The Joshua Tree. That was simply the confirmation of the greatest hinted at on U2's immediately preceeding album, Unforgetable Fire.
Just my $.02.
You seem to have forgotten the best album of that year.
http://www.oldies.com/i/boxart/large/6/090431651224.jpg
White House Boy
2/9/2006, 10:43 PM
I always forget how good Unforgettable Fire really is. The Joshua Tree is still my favorite CD evar though. If my apartment ever burns down that CDs coming out with me.
Unforgetable Fire is quite simply put, beautifully tranquil. In fact, every night since the day my son was born over two years ago, I have sung "MLK" to him to help him drift to sleep. It works like a charm.
NickZeppelin
2/9/2006, 11:00 PM
Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, STP, started around 91-94 time I believe. Black Crowes, GNR started in the last 80's. Those bands made some great songs around that time.
RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/10/2006, 12:27 AM
It seems to me most people consider whatever years they were in their teens to be the "golden age" of music. Aside from GHP, 'cause he's both smert AND full of musicalness.
For me, that's the 70's.I agree with the '70's, but I was mid 20's to mid 30's then.
AllAboutThe'O'
2/10/2006, 02:15 AM
The early '80s music was far better than the late '80s stuff, especially 1988 and 1989. And the worst music of the '90s was the first year, 1990. It gradually started getting better every year since. 1994-97 might have been the peak period.
NickZeppelin
2/10/2006, 02:30 PM
I quit listening to most new music at around 1996.
SoonerWood
2/10/2006, 02:41 PM
Tool, Soundgarden, Nine Inch Nails, (early) Smashing Pumpkins, Stone Temple Pilots, Alice in Chains, Jane's Addiction, Rage Against the Machine, Nirvana, (early) Pearl Jam, Ministry, Nitzer Ebb...
Musical Void?? Nope.
Tear Down This Wall
2/10/2006, 02:51 PM
The early '80s music was far better than the late '80s stuff, especially 1988 and 1989. And the worst music of the '90s was the first year, 1990. It gradually started getting better every year since. 1994-97 might have been the peak period.
Agreed. I began college in the fall of '87 and the music all through my collegiate career sucked bad. Freakin' Michael Bolton and Paula Abdul everywhere. Metal was being torn down by the likes of Posion, Winger, and Warrant. Bastages! Suck. Suck. Suck.
Mixer!
2/10/2006, 03:32 PM
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The lists avoid all the late eighty/early ninety metal.
The lists avoid all the late eighty/early ninety metal.
That was my prime!
That was my prime!
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SoonerProphet
2/10/2006, 03:58 PM
It seems to me most people consider whatever years they were in their teens to be the "golden age" of music. Aside from GHP, 'cause he's both smert AND full of musicalness.
For me, that's the 70's.
Agree, and that is from about 82-92. Personally I never really dug the hair bands of the 80's. Had to turn to groups like the Legendary Pink Dots, late Black Flag, Mike Ness and Social Distortion, Pixies, Love and Rockets, as well as Throwing Muses and some Dead Can Dance.
SoonerProphet
2/10/2006, 04:11 PM
Oh yeah, and The Sisters of Mercy will be playing at the Gypsy Tea Room on Febuary 22.
It seems to me most people consider whatever years they were in their teens to be the "golden age" of music. Aside from GHP, 'cause he's both smert AND full of musicalness.
For me, that's the 40's.
Howzit's a swinger. :texan:
sooneron
2/10/2006, 06:15 PM
Oh yeah, and The Sisters of Mercy will be playing at the Gypsy Tea Room on Febuary 22.
Hey now....
Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, STP, started around 91-94 time I believe. Black Crowes, GNR started in the last 80's. Those bands made some great songs around that time.
Your best post ever.
Depeche Mode, The Cure, Jane's Addiction, Midnight Oil and INXS put out some pretty damn good stuff during that time as well.
NickZeppelin
2/10/2006, 08:15 PM
I'm sure I forgot a lot too. The early 90's had some good stuff in rock. Pop was starting to go down. By the late 90's it all went to hell. Alice in Chans also started around that time. Aerosmith made a couple good albums around that time. The rock scene really got good at that time.
Inxs was a little bit before this time I think. I think they started 82 or 83 but they were still good till the lead singer killed himself. U2 managed to stay relevant during that time too with Joshua Tree and Rattle and Hum.
I think the late 80's to mid 90's was probably a good era in music compared to the rest of that era of music.
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