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jthomasou78
2/6/2006, 08:12 PM
I am purchasing a big screen HD TV. I think plasma is abit out of my price range for the size I want. Has anyone has any good or bad experiences with rear projection or DLP TV's?

Cam
2/6/2006, 08:16 PM
Love my 50 ince rear projection Toshiba. Zero issues.

Kudos to 85, everything he said about it has been true.

JohnnyMack
2/6/2006, 09:05 PM
I have a Toshiba DLP and I love it. A lot more screen for the same money as a smaller plasma.

BoogercountySooner
2/6/2006, 09:21 PM
Sony 50" SXRD the best rear projection made!

IronSooner
2/6/2006, 09:27 PM
I've got a 42" Sony RP LCD that's treated me pretty well. Great picture, and it's got picture-in-picture (really side-by-side) and a built-in tuner. Pretty good deal, perfect size for my apartment. One thing my Sony has that a lot of others don't is that you can change the bulb yourself when it burns out. Usually this doesn't happen for years, but in a lot of tvs you have to send it somewhere or have somebody come out and do it. It's not a complex operation, so Sony made it so that you can do it yourself. Nice extra.

Getem
2/6/2006, 11:06 PM
For best picture per dollar, I like DLP for HD. CRT's are probably still the best for DVD resolution and down. If you do go DLP, you might wait til later this year for LED DLPs. No hot lamp or color wheel, so supposedly no rainbows.

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 11:44 PM
you better know what youre going to buy before you go into a store. it's rude to look around. :texan:

soonerboomer93
2/7/2006, 12:40 AM
ask 85 sooner, he'll steer you straight

soonerboomer93
2/7/2006, 12:41 AM
oh, you might give him an idea of the price range, and lighting environment you're looking for also

85Sooner
2/7/2006, 09:36 AM
Plasma- Pioneer 3799-5000.00
Flat Panel LCD- Sony XBR Bravia 2397-3150.00
Rear Projection- depending on budget Sony SXRD 3100-4100.00
then Sony LCD 1599-2999.00

I know alot of folks have the DLP's and for the most part, they do okay, but with 986,000 moving parts, there have been more issues with reliability than the others.

Get ready folks, we are at the turning point where prices will change bigtime.

The 50" 720p plasma that is running 3000-5000 will be 8000-11,000 by the end of the year but the resolution will be 1080p

This industry always goes in a figure 8 and we are about to start at the top again.

Pieces Hit
2/7/2006, 09:41 AM
Oh man, I tell you, low carb ice cream and pork rinds will give you massive, high-definition rear projection.

Hatfield
2/7/2006, 09:55 AM
85 isn't kidding.

the tv I bought friday is now 200 dollars more than it was advertised for when I bought it.

Taxman71
2/7/2006, 11:12 AM
Per 85's suggestion and my own viewing/research, I got the 50 inch Sony LCD RP (KDFE50A10) and it rawks. If you only want a 42", the prices on this model have fallen to $1600.

I like DLP's but I see rainbows on them and the moving parts thing bothered me. Plus, the Sony picture beats them all (except the SXRD which is 50% more in price).

NormanPride
2/7/2006, 11:28 AM
I have a friend that just has an HD projector. He just shines the thing on his wall and it kicks ***. Anyone else do that?

85Sooner
2/7/2006, 11:32 AM
I have a friend that just has an HD projector. He just shines the thing on his wall and it kicks ***. Anyone else do that?


Lots of folks do that. They just do it a bit less when they find out they are going through 2 bulbs a year at $500.00 a pop. So be aware.

85Sooner
2/7/2006, 11:33 AM
MOF there are alot of folks who do that and every friday night take it outside and shine it on the garage door and invite the kids in the neighborhood down for friday night movies. Pretty Cool.

TheHumanAlphabet
2/7/2006, 11:35 AM
The 50" 720p plasma that is running 3000-5000 will be 8000-11,000 by the end of the year but the resolution will be 1080p

This industry always goes in a figure 8 and we are about to start at the top again.

So I guess 1080p will be the new thing. Are they jacking up prices in anticipation of the new new FCC date for digital signal broadcast initiation/analog signal stopage?

How much better will 1080 be in HD versus my 50-inch plasma?

NormanPride
2/7/2006, 11:51 AM
Lots of folks do that. They just do it a bit less when they find out they are going through 2 bulbs a year at $500.00 a pop. So be aware.

Yikes. I'll have to ask him about that one. I'm not sure if he's had to replace a bulb yet, though. And he's had it for a few years...

homerSimpsonsBrain
2/7/2006, 12:00 PM
Oh man, I tell you, low carb ice cream and pork rinds will give you massive, high-definition rear projection.

I was gonna spek you for that PH but the man is keeping me down...

85Sooner
2/7/2006, 12:03 PM
So I guess 1080p will be the new thing. Are they jacking up prices in anticipation of the new new FCC date for digital signal broadcast initiation/analog signal stopage?

How much better will 1080 be in HD versus my 50-inch plasma?


Actually, just because it will be 1080p does not mean that it will be better.

It will still depend on the technology. LCOS (SXRD) right now is the only one thats actually a better picture. The sharp LCD and DLP's do not look better than their predecessors.

SED (Silicone Emitting diode) the new thing was really not that impressive. We will have to see more as the technology evolves.

As far as pricing its just like computers. When the pentium3 came out they were 3k and went down from there until the pentium 4 came out and they were 3k. and even though everyone would be just fine with a pentium 3 they ,for whatever reason buy a pentium 4.

NormanPride
2/7/2006, 12:08 PM
Will we be able to get a 720p for less? Or are they taking all those off the market and forcing the new ones? Because that's deliciously evil.

85Sooner
2/7/2006, 01:29 PM
Will we be able to get a 720p for less? Or are they taking all those off the market and forcing the new ones? Because that's deliciously evil.


I think some of the 720p sets will stay but the prices will generally stay about the same or go up because the margins are so ridiculously low. At this time they are about 10%-15% which will cause folks to go out of business if something doesn't change.

Taxman71
2/7/2006, 01:39 PM
I think I heard Mark Cuban (of crazy, nut Mavericks fame) recently say that a dramatic price drop is only a year or two away, especially for flat panels. Of course, he could have been hanging around the players' lounge that day.

SoonerWood
2/7/2006, 01:40 PM
I have a 50" Panasonic LCD and really dig it, but the $300/year light bulb payment SUCKS MAJOR MONKEY BALLS

85Sooner
2/7/2006, 02:18 PM
I have a 50" Panasonic LCD and really dig it, but the $300/year light bulb payment SUCKS MAJOR MONKEY BALLS


Your bulbs should last 4-5000 hours FYI

Mjcpr
2/7/2006, 02:48 PM
Your bulbs should last 4-5000 hours FYI

He watches A LOT of TV.

jthomasou78
2/7/2006, 05:25 PM
85 Sooner...Id like to spend in the 2000 dollar neighborhood. Its my first purchcase of this kind. I want something that is HD, and that I can build a Home entertainment center around.

85Sooner
2/7/2006, 05:30 PM
85 Sooner...Id like to spend in the 2000 dollar neighborhood. Its my first purchcase of this kind. I want something that is HD, and that I can build a Home entertainment center around.



Sony KDFE50A10 1997.00 is what you want.

IronSooner
2/7/2006, 05:34 PM
Looks like the updated version of mine in a larger screen size. I'd recommend it.

1stTimeCaller
2/7/2006, 05:37 PM
I have an old school 45" Zenith rear projection made in about 1982 that has been moved from OK to MO to CO to TX and it works just fine. Why do these ne TVs have bulbs that burn out and the one like mine doesn't?

Taxman71
2/7/2006, 05:41 PM
Sony KDFE50A10 1997.00 is what you want.

I have had this one for 2 months, it is awesome.

IronSooner
2/7/2006, 06:16 PM
I have an old school 45" Zenith rear projection made in about 1982 that has been moved from OK to MO to CO to TX and it works just fine. Why do these ne TVs have bulbs that burn out and the one like mine doesn't?

Yours is a CRT, so it should have 3 little electron guns in the back of it. Main problem with that is misalignment since all 3 are rastering the image, but I don't know how long it takes them to get out of alignment. LCD uses a light source in back to shine through the pixels and give you your picture. DLP is similar as far as that goes, but with many moving parts (color wheel, etc).

85Sooner
2/7/2006, 07:43 PM
I have an old school 45" Zenith rear projection made in about 1982 that has been moved from OK to MO to CO to TX and it works just fine. Why do these ne TVs have bulbs that burn out and the one like mine doesn't?


Cause yours is an older CRT. Your guns can/will go out. Replacement guns for yours , if you can find them will be around 2500.00 OK

85Sooner
2/7/2006, 07:48 PM
I have had this one for 2 months, it is awesome.


Glad your still happy with it.

I finally pulled the trigger on a KDSR60XBR1 myself.

GDC
2/7/2006, 09:40 PM
I just like to read, and type, the term "rear projection".

Taxman71
2/8/2006, 09:57 AM
Glad your still happy with it.

I finally pulled the trigger on a KDSR60XBR1 myself.

Those are sharp. I noticed the prices have already dropped about $1,000 on those. I wouldn't change my A10 though.

Harry Beanbag
2/8/2006, 10:04 AM
Sony KDFE50A10 1997.00 is what you want.


I've had the 55 incher for about six months and it's outstanding. It has prompted 3 of our friends to go out and buy one.

85Sooner
2/8/2006, 10:49 AM
Damn , I wish I were in Okla. I'm losing alot of business HAH.:)

Oldnslo
2/8/2006, 10:57 AM
Y'all must watch a bunch more TV than I do. I've had a Seleco DLP projector for... 4 years? 5? and I haven't needed to replace a bulb. This unit takes about 30-45 seconds to warm up and it has fans which stay on awhile after the picture is off, to cool the bulb.

They say the bulb is good for 8000 hours.

perculator
2/12/2006, 10:13 AM
85..............you know anything about the jvc LCOS? i'm considering it (61") and the panasonic projection lcd (61").

85Sooner
2/12/2006, 10:16 AM
85..............you know anything about the jvc LCOS? i'm considering it (61") and the panasonic projection lcd (61").


JVC is really a hybrid of Lcos. The chip is 1920 x 1080 but according to the JVC engineers they only use 1366x720 for HD and the rest foir analog processing. Bulb avaiability has also been a problem and they have had 2 recalls over the pas 4 years. As far as the Pani, the black levels cannot compete with the Sony so that ends that competition really quickly.