Were They, You Think?

[Pieces Hit]

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:confused:

And why did no one notice?

[Hatfield]

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

[Pieces Hit]

I mean, what were they doing out there?

[Dio]

Why can't I quit you, Tonto?

[Stanley1]

You had me at "hello", Tonto.

[sanantoniosooner]

"Maybe it's the firewater talking, but you sure got a purty mouth"

[Pieces Hit]

"Heap big Kimosavee."

[IB4OU2]

So what does Kemosabee really mean?

[Mjcpr]

So what does Kemosabee really mean?

The literal translation is Big Poppa.

[Pieces Hit]

So what does Kemosabee really mean?Master?

[sanantoniosooner]

"Park in my TeePee"

[Stanley1]

I heard that 1TC pee'd in the corner of a teepee once.

[Flagstaffsooner]

Kemo Sabe


What is the meaning of this expression that became such a memorable part of the Lone Ranger series?
Fran Striker, who wrote the scripts, was also the person who answered the fan letters to the Lone Ranger. He always started his replies with... "Ta-i ke-mo sah-bee" ("Greetings trusty scout").
There have been numerous other suggestions regarding the meaning of this term:


Dr. Goddard, of the Smithsonian Institution, was reported as believing that Kemo Sabe was from the Tewa dialect. He supported his contention by calling on the "Ethnogeography of the Tewa Indians" which appeared in the 29th Annual Report of the Bureau of American Ethnology (1916). It seems that in Tewa, "Apache" equates to Sabe and "friend" to Kema.

Jim Jewell, who directed "The Lone Ranger" until 1938 said he'd lifted the term from the name of a boys' camp at Mullet Lake just south of Mackinac, Michigan called Kamp Kee-Mo Sah-Bee. The camp had been established in 1911 by Jewell's father-in-law, Charles Yeager, and operated until about 1940. Translation of kee-mo sah-bee, according to Jewell was "trusty scout."

A scholar from the University of California at Berkley thought that Kemo Sabe came from the Yavapai, a dialect spoken in Arizona and meant "one who is white," since the Ranger always wore a white shirt and trousers in the earliest publicity photos. The Yavapai term is "kinmasaba" or "kinmasabeh"
According to Rob Malouf, a grad student in linguistics at Stanford, there's another possibility: "According to John Nichols' Concise Dictionary of Minnesota Ojibwe, the Ojibwe word `giimoozaabi' means `to peek' (it could also mean `he peeks' or `he who peeks'). Rob continued: "There are several words with the same prefix ["giimooj," secretly] meaning things like `to sneak up on someone'.... It is quite plausible that `giimoozaabi' means something like `scout'.... `Giimoozaabi' is pronounced pretty much the same as `kemosabe' and would have been spelled `Kee Moh Sah Bee' at the turn of the century."

In his book of humour and observation, noted columnist James Smart observes that the New York Public Library defines "Kemo Sabe" as Soggy Shrub. His entertaining collection is appropriately titled "Soggy Shrub Rides Again and other improbabilities."

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An interesting side light comes from the son of Fran Striker, "It is usually assumed that Kemo Sabe is how the Ranger refers to Tonto. However, in many of the early radio broadcasts, the Ranger calls Tonto "Kemo Sabe" AND Tonto also calls the Ranger "Kemo Sabe."

Another suggestion has been that Tonto, (whose name means "stupid" according to some interpretations) responded by calling the Lone Ranger "qui no sabe" which roughly translates from Spanish as "he who knows nothing" or "clueless."

One of Gary Larson's Far Side cartoons shows the Lone Ranger looking in an Indian dictionary and discovering that kemosabe is "an Apache expression for a horse's rear end


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[Flagstaffsooner]

oops

[Pieces Hit]

I'm telling you, no one keeps their wardrobe that fresh.

[usmc-sooner]

Tonto: Hey kemosabe are you part Indian
LoneRanger: No Tonto I don't have any Indian in me
Tonto: Would you like a little Indian in you?

[IB4OU2]

I heard that 1TC pee'd in the corner of a teepee once.

Silly city boy...teepees don't have corners.

[Pieces Hit]

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He wore the mask with the sequins on the weekends.

[n8v_ndn]

I heard that 1TC pee'd in the corner of a teepee once.

This happened north of the South Oval, right :mack:

[jk the sooner fan]

Lone Ranger: "How"
Tonto: "Me know how, me want chance"