View Full Version : Two Versions of Google...
OklahomaTuba
1/27/2006, 09:49 AM
tiananmen - Google Image Search. (http://images.google.com/images?q=tiananmen)
tiananmen - Google Image Search in China. (http://images.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen)
Good job Google!
:rolleyes:
Slow day there fella?
Even I'm out on this one.
OklahomaTuba
1/27/2006, 10:15 AM
Heh. I love that troll.
william_brasky
1/27/2006, 10:20 AM
How are the tacos in China today?
Harry Beanbag
1/27/2006, 10:23 AM
How are the tacos in China today?
They don't look very good.
http://images.google.cn/images?svnum=10&hl=zh-CN&lr=&cr=countryCN&q=tacos
Czar Soonerov
1/27/2006, 10:24 AM
http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&safe=off&q=oklahoma+tuba&spell=1
http://images.google.cn/images?svnum=10&hl=zh-CN&lr=&q=oklahoma+tuba
wtg google! :rolleyes:
william_brasky
1/27/2006, 10:27 AM
http://www.nationalpolkafestival.com/images/Bands/Bohemian_Dutchmen20.jpg
the guy on the front left -- is that the Ding Fries are done guy?
Harry Beanbag
1/27/2006, 10:29 AM
Lederhosen RMFO.
OklahomaTuba
1/27/2006, 10:29 AM
Tibet invasion does the same thing.
In Through The Out Door
1/27/2006, 10:29 AM
Google are homos. They won't comply with a request from the U.S. government that Yahoo! and others complied with, but they get on their knees and bend over for the Chinese. Classic Northern California libs to the max.
william_brasky
1/27/2006, 10:31 AM
yeah, to the max.
In Through The Out Door
1/27/2006, 10:32 AM
Grody
Harry Beanbag
1/27/2006, 10:33 AM
I'd like to gag them with a maggot.
william_brasky
1/27/2006, 10:34 AM
If you ever had a Chinese taco you'd get on your knees and bend over. Totally. Chinese Tacos are Rad.
OklahomaTuba
1/27/2006, 10:34 AM
Google - To The Max (http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=to+the+max)
Commie Google - To The Max (http://images.google.cn/images?svnum=10&hl=zh-CN&lr=&cr=countryCN&q=to+the+max)
william_brasky
1/27/2006, 10:48 AM
this is all that's on Chinese Google.
http://www07.edgar.de/db/gross/edgar-ED-2218-.jpg
In Through The Out Door
1/27/2006, 10:59 AM
The upshot is that I googled Ronald Reagan and there were 18,000+ websites. They'll never be able to censor everything.
OklahomaTuba
1/27/2006, 11:11 AM
Well, the commies have to hate someone in their marxist/capitalist paradise.
The upshot is that I googled Ronald Reagan and there were 18,000+ websites. They'll never be able to censor everything.
Is it me or does it smell like upshot in here?
yermom
1/27/2006, 11:14 AM
http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/060126/15/3y7zo.html
it's definitely a bit shady
i don't think i'd compare this to the US lawsuit thing though
In Through The Out Door
1/27/2006, 11:30 AM
http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/060126/15/3y7zo.html
it's definitely a bit shady
i don't think i'd compare this to the US lawsuit thing though
Google's senior policy counsel, Andrew McLaughlin, says that "while removing search results is inconsistent with Google's mission, providing no information (or a heavily degraded user experience that amounts to no information) is more inconsistent with our mission."
So, in the end, Google is no different than any other U.S. company - talk free market enterprise, but freely do business in a country that quashes freedom for anyone but the rulers of the country.
Yeah, real cutting-edge stuff.
google's actions in china certainly don't seem to comply with its motto "do no evil", however, It should be pointed out that EVERY US search engine that is operating in china has agreed to do the same thing. Yahoo I think was the first to capitulate. If MSN is over there too, you can bet that they are doing the same thing. From what I understand, companies are not allowed to operate there without agreeing to censor certain search results.
I bet the US version is censored as well. We just don't know it because we can't Google it to find the answer....because it's censored.
It's a vicious circle of untruths and engimas.
OklahomaTuba
1/27/2006, 02:22 PM
Goggle's "Do No Evil" slogan became BS when the founders (self proclaimed environmentalists) decided they needed a Boeing 767 as a personal jet.
By obstructing the government from perusing those who consume kiddy porn and now bending over for commies, they really have shown to be supa hypocritical.
Still, damn good product they put out. Just wish I had bought that stock when it first IPO'd.
maybe if you control your knee-jerking a little, you might be able to see some of the sense in this move:
for a slightly more rational look at the situation, see this BBC op/ed piece, which I'm sure you'll dismiss out of hand.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4654014.stm
OklahomaTuba
1/27/2006, 02:34 PM
maybe if you control your knee-jerking a little, you might be able to see some of the sense in this move:
for a slightly more rational look at the situation, see this BBC op/ed piece, which I'm sure you'll dismiss out of hand.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4654014.stm
Well, the BBC is the biggest POS news operation in the world. Glad my taxes aren't going to support it. Nevertheless I thought this was kind of dumb:
Different circumstances require different responses, and just because sanctions were the right way to put pressure on apartheid South Africa does not mean that a technology blockade is the way to influence China.
Seems to me the only people that want to block anything is China, and well Google.
Pricetag
1/27/2006, 02:53 PM
http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/060126/15/3y7zo.html
it's definitely a bit shady
i don't think i'd compare this to the US lawsuit thing though
Yeah, going along with the government's request would have been the more comparable thing to do.
Gandalf_The_Grey
1/27/2006, 03:26 PM
http://images.google.cn/images?svnum=10&hl=zh-CN&lr=&cr=countryCN&q=boobs&sa=N&tab=wi
Well there is the REAL DISASTER!!!
OklahomaTuba
1/27/2006, 03:41 PM
I don't think we can blame the commies for that one, chinese chicks don't have boobs.
NormanPride
1/27/2006, 03:46 PM
:eek:
http://images.google.cn/images?svnum=10&hl=zh-CN&lr=&cr=countryCN&q=To+the+Marx&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2
http://images.google.com/images?q=To+the+Marx&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images
SoonerInKCMO
1/27/2006, 03:47 PM
I don't think we can blame the commies for that one, chinese chicks don't have boobs.
Hmmm... franchised breast augmentation clinics could make a mint out there. I'd call them "McBoobs".
Gandalf_The_Grey
1/27/2006, 03:50 PM
While doing random searches I came to the conclusion if you was in fact Lost....and this was on the island...would you be wanting to get off of the island ;)
http://cdn-channels.netscape.com/gallery/i/l/lilly/013_103356_d_0410_ful.jpg
Gandalf_The_Grey
1/27/2006, 03:51 PM
And half of the Jennifer Love Hewitt pictures aren't even her...Communism knows no ends to their evil :(
yermom
1/27/2006, 03:52 PM
"of" or "on" the island?
Gandalf_The_Grey
1/27/2006, 03:54 PM
http://images.google.cn/images?svnum=10&hl=zh-CN&lr=&cr=countryCN&q=Iraq
hehe I hope Tuba doesn't click on that.....he thinks are liberal media is bad :P
Gandalf_The_Grey
1/27/2006, 03:58 PM
To be honest, she probably still wouldn't have sex with me even if we was the only two on the island :P But the scenery would be nice
KABOOKIE
1/27/2006, 04:01 PM
Goggle's "Do No Evil" slogan became BS when the founders (self proclaimed environmentalists) decided they needed a Boeing 767 as a personal jet.
Compared to John Travolta's 707 that 767 is an environmentalist option for a buiz jet!
Gandalf_The_Grey
1/27/2006, 04:02 PM
They seem to be censoring the WWE as well those EVIL SCUM BAGS!!!
KaiserSooner
1/27/2006, 04:04 PM
and now bending over for commies
Google isn't bending over for the "commies." They're bending over for dollars. This was, above all else, a business decision, and one I don't necessarily agree with.
KaiserSooner
1/27/2006, 04:09 PM
maybe if you control your knee-jerking a little, you might be able to see some of the sense in this move:
for a slightly more rational look at the situation, see this BBC op/ed piece, which I'm sure you'll dismiss out of hand.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4654014.stm
Thanks. Definitely an interesting take. Here are some lines that are pretty good points, IMO...
But if we in the West, with our liberal political culture and our attempts to build open societies, do not engage with China then we lose the opportunity to influence them and convince them of the benefits that this brings.
and
Different circumstances require different responses, and just because sanctions were the right way to put pressure on apartheid South Africa does not mean that a technology blockade is the way to influence China.
Constructive engagement in a way that respects but also challenges local law seems a far better option
I have to agree with that last line.
In Through The Out Door
1/27/2006, 04:17 PM
for a slightly more rational look at the situation, see this BBC ...
Oh. All I had to do was see that the BBC produced it to realize it wasn't going to tell me jumping jack flash. It's like being told, 'Yeah, but the New York Times says...' No one outside of the beltway cares what BBC/NYT think.
Anyway, no matter how you slice it, Google is no different than any other company professing to be for free markets, but selling out to China.
It's not a knee-jerk thing. It's just realizing that no matter what business people say about their politics and/or ethics, when it comes to putting more money in their pockets, they'll do just about anything. Kind of like people who claim to be environmentalists but who live in houses in cities...and drive cars...and wear clothes...you know, the damn-the-manufacturers-for-polluting-the-environment-but-ignore-my-SUV-and-house-in-the-suburbs crowd.
No big deal. Just admit you've changed your policy to make money off the Chinese. Everybody else has. No reason to pretend that you're not doing so as well.
soonerscuba
1/27/2006, 04:47 PM
Does anybody really give a ****? I'm mean really, it will not effect me in the slightest if Chinese people cannot look a picture of the protest. This will do nothing to stop their steady march toward democracy, which is picking up lots of steam and we all see it. So I could pretend to feign moral outrage but at the end of the day, I don't care at all, and neither do any of you.
Yes no cares about the BBC or the NYT, that is why each has their own television station (one that broadcasts the entire globe) and sell more papers than anyone in the world. Seriously, that is like me saying no cares about the Wall Street Journal's op-ed section, just because it takes a different slant doesn't mean it isn't influential, or respectable for that matter. Except for cable news, all of it sucks ***.
soonerscuba
1/27/2006, 04:53 PM
Somone needs a hug. :D
and a delicious plate of dog meat. FYI, don't GIS dog meat.
OklahomaTuba
1/27/2006, 04:57 PM
This will do nothing to stop their steady march toward democracy, which is picking up lots of steam and we all see it. So I could pretend to feign moral outrage but at the end of the day, I don't care at all, and neither do any of you.
I'm just glad to know that the 12 year olds have google to look at after a nice 20 hour shift in the factory making my clothes and consumer goods for 1 dollar a day.
Oh wait, and all this time I thought libz actually cared about stuff like human rights. Guess I was wrong. :rolleyes:
NormanPride
1/27/2006, 05:04 PM
I'm just glad to know that the 12 year olds have google to look at after a nice 20 hour shift in the factory making my clothes and consumer goods for 1 dollar a day.
Oh wait, and all this time I thought libz actually cared about stuff like human rights. Guess I was wrong. :rolleyes:
Please. Like google censoring things for China is really the coup de gras against human rights. Settle down, spaz. ;)
soonerscuba
1/27/2006, 05:07 PM
I'm just glad to know that the 12 year olds have google to look at after a nice 20 hour shift in the factory making my clothes and consumer goods for 1 dollar a day.
Oh wait, and all this time I thought libz actually cared about stuff like human rights. Guess I was wrong. :rolleyes:
Once again, don't care. You mistake me for a bleeding heart, which I am for American interests, I believe in American exceptionalism. Sure, I wish China would address their human rights issues, and I don't like how much pollution they cause, but they hold the strings to their destiny, not Google, not America, and not Bush. People get the government they deserve, sad but true.
GottaHavePride
1/27/2006, 05:07 PM
How do we all figure the Chinese version is censored? Maybe you aren't getting any image results because you're NOT FREAKING TYPING IN CHINESE. And why is it odd for Chinese people (who probably live near Tiananmen Square) to post touristy photographs of the area on the internet? Track down the chinese-character equivalent of "tiananmen square protests" and search with that, and then you might have some grounds to argue that they're censoring the website.
Seriously, think things through a bit next time.
yermom
1/27/2006, 05:13 PM
How do we all figure the Chinese version is censored? Maybe you aren't getting any image results because you're NOT FREAKING TYPING IN CHINESE. And why is it odd for Chinese people (who probably live near Tiananmen Square) to post touristy photographs of the area on the internet? Track down the chinese-character equivalent of "tiananmen square protests" and search with that, and then you might have some grounds to argue that they're censoring the website.
Seriously, think things through a bit next time.
天安门广场抗议?
GottaHavePride
1/27/2006, 05:16 PM
Heck if I know - it's all Greek to me.
william_brasky
1/27/2006, 05:22 PM
Do they not drink Coke in China? (http://images.google.cn/images?svnum=10&hl=zh-CN&lr=&cr=countryCN&q=me+chinese+me+play+joke+me+put+pee+pee+in+your+c oke&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2)
SicEmBaylor
1/27/2006, 05:32 PM
Is the John Birch Society blocked in China?
SicEmBaylor
1/27/2006, 05:33 PM
How do we all figure the Chinese version is censored? Maybe you aren't getting any image results because you're NOT FREAKING TYPING IN CHINESE. And why is it odd for Chinese people (who probably live near Tiananmen Square) to post touristy photographs of the area on the internet? Track down the chinese-character equivalent of "tiananmen square protests" and search with that, and then you might have some grounds to argue that they're censoring the website.
Seriously, think things through a bit next time.
Well, I think we know Google is being censored because..well..Google announced they were censoring in China.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3551437a12,00.html
GottaHavePride
1/27/2006, 05:50 PM
That's what I get for not watching the news.
yermom
1/27/2006, 05:57 PM
i posted a link, it helps to read the thread ;)
i won't tell JK this time
GottaHavePride
1/27/2006, 06:20 PM
I'm too important to follow links. ;)
Flagstaffsooner
1/28/2006, 02:30 AM
I'm too important to follow Link. ;)
http://www.wildwestcookers.com/images/modsquad.jpg
tiananmen - Google Image Search. (http://images.google.com/images?q=tiananmen)
tiananmen - Google Image Search in China. (http://images.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen)
Good job Google!
:rolleyes:
yet you should try:
tienamen - GIS china. (http://images.google.cn/images?svnum=10&hl=zh-CN&lr=&q=tienamen&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2)
apparently, the chineese govt was a little lax with the misspellings.
its not -exactly- the same as in the american version, but close enough that you'll see the tanks.
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