last night i watched the 2000 rrs and the...

[soonerinabilene]

k-state game, just to help pass the time, and one thing i noticed that had i had ever never before was how physical our receivers were. im not just talking about going after the ball, im talking about the way they blocked on run plays AND after a catch had been made. everytime a pass was completed, the other receivers instantly took on whoever was covering them, and that added a lot to our yac. i dont know if it was spurrier jr coaching them to do that, or if they were just physical players on their own, but i think we should try to implement that back into the gameplan over spring training. anyone else ever notice that?

[NickZeppelin]

If you watched em this year they were the same way. That's probably the thing our WRs in the NFL did as good as anything including catch the ball. Malcom Kelly was a good run blocker last year.

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

no nick, they didn't. those WRs in 2000 and 2001 escorted players down the field on long runs. there is hardly a long run where you won't find a running back and curtis fagan leading the way.

how many times did you see peterson break free and he was the only sooner down the field this year? yes kelley was great at the point of attack, but the problem was he stopped at that point. the 2001 WRs held their blocks and then sprinted to go block someone else. i'm not saying our WRs won't get there, but its a perfect example of a blue chip player vs a blue collar player.

[Collier11]

Great point jkm, I do see guys like holmes, kelly, and tenell being those type of receivers for us. I know holmes has underachieved so far, but I play basketball with the guy and he is a beast, if he just gets right about what he needs to do he will be good I think

[Texas Golfer]

no nick, they didn't. those WRs in 2000 and 2001 escorted players down the field on long runs. there is hardly a long run where you won't find a running back and curtis fagan leading the way.

how many times did you see peterson break free and he was the only sooner down the field this year? yes kelley was great at the point of attack, but the problem was he stopped at that point. the 2001 WRs held their blocks and then sprinted to go block someone else. i'm not saying our WRs won't get there, but its a perfect example of a blue chip player vs a blue collar player.

Excellent observation, jkm.

[rainiersooner]

no nick, they didn't. those WRs in 2000 and 2001 escorted players down the field on long runs. there is hardly a long run where you won't find a running back and curtis fagan leading the way.

how many times did you see peterson break free and he was the only sooner down the field this year? yes kelley was great at the point of attack, but the problem was he stopped at that point. the 2001 WRs held their blocks and then sprinted to go block someone else. i'm not saying our WRs won't get there, but its a perfect example of a blue chip player vs a blue collar player.

Interesting to read this thread tonight as I was watching the holiday bowl again tonight and was getting ****ed off how one of AD's runs down the side could have gone for 6 if Kelly had finished his block off. Bomar and AD aside (and the D-Line to be fair), I feel like we're lacking a lot of physical intensity on this squad right now.

[okienole3]

Another thing that impressed me about those teams was how well they would get up field and block after an interception.

[OUTrumpet]

no nick, they didn't. those WRs in 2000 and 2001 escorted players down the field on long runs. there is hardly a long run where you won't find a running back and curtis fagan leading the way.

how many times did you see peterson break free and he was the only sooner down the field this year? yes kelley was great at the point of attack, but the problem was he stopped at that point. the 2001 WRs held their blocks and then sprinted to go block someone else. i'm not saying our WRs won't get there, but its a perfect example of a blue chip player vs a blue collar player.

I remember several plays in 04 where this happened. Clayton vs TTU for example, he killed that fool.

In 05 I didn't see it happen much, but I don't think our recievers were all that aware of who had the ball on some pass plays.

[Lydell_Carr]

Three words. Steve Spurrier Jr.

He was the WR coach and we lost him to the Redskins.

[NickZeppelin]

Spurrier Jr. had very little input into the offense from what I can tell. Wyatt has been the best WRs coach we've had probably.

[Lydell_Carr]

Spurrier Jr. had very little input into the offense from what I can tell. Wyatt has been the best WRs coach we've had probably.


Yeah, our receiver play has been great these last two years...

Spurrier had freshmen and they never, ever looked lost like some of them did this year.

I am glad Wyatt's gone.

[NickZeppelin]

I disagree. Wyatt was a heck of a coach. And he's had guys succeed in the NFL already. We're gonna miss him for his recruiting too.

Spurrier had no freshmen. Even in 99 he had some young guys but Daniels, Norman, and maybe Mackey was the only freshman that played a lot. Jackson was another wide reciever we had that year. The problem last year is we had a poorly coached offensive line and a freshman QB along with the freshmen WRs.

[Rhino]

Spurrier had no freshmen. Even in 99 he had some young guys but Daniels, Norman, and maybe Mackey was the only freshman that played a lot. Jackson was another wide reciever we had that year. Incorrect. Savage was our breakout freshman receiver that year.

Jackson & Daniels were our seniors.
Norman was a sophomore.
Mackey, Fagan & Woolfolk were RS freshmen.

In that group, Daniels(QB), Norman(RB), Mackey(DB), Fagan(DB) & Woolfolk(DB) were at different positions the year before. Spurrier, Jr. did a helluva job developing those players.

[caphorns]

All that manhandling was BEFORE we started lifting weights ;)

[NormanPride]

You've also got to look at the speed of our guys in the earlier seasons. Our RBs weren't burners, so the WRs could get in front of them and block. Also, with a spread game, you can get downfield and block a bit better since it takes some time to make it through the traffic. This year most of our runs were quick hitting, right (besides the tosses)? Even when we ran from the gun the runs seemed designed to take advantage of straight line speed rather than jitterbug-style running.

The only time I can think of where we switched styles was against Baylor when Gute came in, and then all his runs came off of second blocks that various players threw outside the designed play. Am I just way off base here? I think we're comparing two different teams, is the problem.

[IronSooner]

Maybe, but I did notice this year that once AD got to the secondary he often got tackled by a guy getting blocked by a WR. It just doesn't seem like our WRs lately have had that killer instinct to finish blocks off. They go block, but don't always hold it long enough and dont' seem interested in finishing the guy off. That's the difference between a 20 yard run and an 80 yarder, especially with AD.

[NormanPride]

Think also of the positioning that the defenders have. Since AD is here, most teams stack the box with a safety or a CB, so it's hard for the WRs to block their guy, then come over and block a safety that's already up in the box. That's why if you can stretch the field with the passing game, it gets the safeties a bit off the LOS.

I just really, REALLY wish we could run that I slot that USC made it's living off of. Can you imagine AD in that? They put a LB in there, and Iglesias them in the slot. If they leave a nickel corner in there, AD runs over him.

[Beano's Fourth Chin]

Another thing that impressed me about those teams was how well they would get up field and block after an interception.

Heh. If you watch the replay of Marshall's interception against A&M, Everage, Thompson and Calmus all level guys, Heinecke and TRRW and the rest of the team escort him into the endzone.

[Beano's Fourth Chin]

Heh. If you watch the replay of Marshall's interception against A&M, Everage, Thompson and Calmus all level guys, Heinecke and TRRW and the rest of the team escort him into the endzone.

http://www.bfcfgof.com/fark/thepick.wmv

[OU Adonis]

Three words. Steve Spurrier Jr.

He was the WR coach and we lost him to the Redskins.

My favorite fullback of all time, right there folks...

[Texas Golfer]

Spurrier Jr. had very little input into the offense from what I can tell. Wyatt has been the best WRs coach we've had probably.

Spurrier, Jr. was the best. Receivers caught the ball with more regularity then and they didn't finish their assignments until the whistle blew.

The receivers of late stop when the ball isn't thrown to them and they've dropped more passes than ever before.

[NickZeppelin]

Spurrier, Jr. was the best. Receivers caught the ball with more regularity then and they didn't finish their assignments until the whistle blew.

I believe he was also the coach in 2001 when they were dropping the balls regularly.

[okienole3]

http://www.bfcfgof.com/fark/thepick.wmv

Goosebumps.


As for the blocking, you can see the same thing on D-Strait's return against Nebraska.

[OKC-SLC]

http://www.bfcfgof.com/fark/thepick.wmv
To me, that play defines the destiny with which our kids played that season. I love how the sideline behind him was erupting--what a play.

[Beano's Fourth Chin]

There also appears to have been 2 blocks in the back on that play.

I'll take it.

[Lydell_Carr]

I believe he was also the coach in 2001 when they were dropping the balls regularly.



You're wrong. Since Spurrier left, they don't finish plays, block, or run sharp routes.

[picasso]

k-state game, just to help pass the time, and one thing i noticed that had i had ever never before was how physical our receivers were. im not just talking about going after the ball, im talking about the way they blocked on run plays AND after a catch had been made. everytime a pass was completed, the other receivers instantly took on whoever was covering them, and that added a lot to our yac. i dont know if it was spurrier jr coaching them to do that, or if they were just physical players on their own, but i think we should try to implement that back into the gameplan over spring training. anyone else ever notice that?
they also caught everything under the sun and moon.

if you want to see the greatest catch that season at the most crucial time, checkout Antwone Savage's sideline grab at aTm on 3rd and long. It was late late in the game and he drug his back foot just inside the line. pure greatness.

[NickZeppelin]

You're wrong. Since Spurrier left, they don't finish plays, block, or run sharp routes.

I'm pretty sure Spurrier Jr. left after the 2001 season. Then Wyatt came in the next season. I can't think of any other WR coach OU's had since 1999.

[soonerinabilene]

they also caught everything under the sun and moon.

if you want to see the greatest catch that season at the most crucial time, checkout Antwone Savage's sideline grab at aTm on 3rd and long. It was late late in the game and he drug his back foot just inside the line. pure greatness.

no kidding. norman had three catches in the tu game that were unbelievable. and he was supposed to be a running back. i guess his development as a receiver doesn't show that spurrier jr was a good coach, huh nick?

[okienole3]

To me, that play defines the destiny with which our kids played that season. I love how the sideline behind him was erupting--what a play.

I like seeing Farris and the other guy looking back all dejected.

[CobraKai]

I'm pretty sure Spurrier Jr. left after the 2001 season. Then Wyatt came in the next season. I can't think of any other WR coach OU's had since 1999.

Don't forget the Jay Norvell era. :)

[Rhino]

Don't forget the Jay Norvell era. :) All three weeks of it.

[NormanPride]

All three weeks of it.

Oh what could have been! :D

[OklahomaTuba]

Woolfolk's circus catch against nebraska in 2000 is still my favorite of all time.

[MojoRisen]

Are we still in Shock about 2000~ indeed we threw all over the field with Heupel - he was a special player Juco I may add..

I remember the 99 louisville game when I first realized we were back- Stoops had his boys in the pocket dancing footwork and looking off recievers = we ran to the huddle and surely I knew we were well coached- I watched the game against a Favored Louisville team- we spanked them in the 2nd half- right up the middle- opened it right up.. Those fans who showed up to that Louisville game- I want to hear from you-

Q was there and we were like who is that little mofo... damn he is quick...





excuse my history and emotion...

[NickZeppelin]

Q was there and we were like who is that little mofo... damn he is quick...


I think it was Thornton not Q. Q didn't play till Thornton tore his knee later in the year. I can't remember how much later. I think it was maybe the Iowa State game? Anyway Q didn't play against Texas that year or he would have ended with over 15 TDs in his career against the Horns instead of just 10. And the Louisville game was before the Texas game.

[Salt City Sooner]

Yeah, it was Thornton vs. the Cards. Q burned his shirt vs. Mizzou.

[MojoRisen]

I think it was Thornton not Q. Q didn't play till Thornton tore his knee later in the year. I can't remember how much later. I think it was maybe the Iowa State game? Anyway Q didn't play against Texas that year or he would have ended with over 15 TDs in his career against the Horns instead of just 10. And the Louisville game was before the Texas game.

You missed it- Q was working out- the QBs were tapping the feet and looking.. Seeemed to me that they were well coached at the time and realized that they wanted to wiiiiiiiiiiiin. \

I was there. unless you say differently- and I was at the next 5 RRS. and the last 2 MNC and the orange bowl 2000- stranger..

MD

[MojoRisen]

Yeah, our receiver play has been great these last two years...

Spurrier had freshmen and they never, ever looked lost like some of them did this year.

I am glad Wyatt's gone.

Lydell, who knocked you out in highschool- could it have been DOUGIE D Desherow"Edmond" Thank god he went to Tulsa instead of Auburn.. Jimmy Johnson was ****ed.


Any how we remember you.. and Thurman used to say stay off the knees Desherow I am going to the nxt level... Just foot for thought

R U realy Lydel- if not I wasted that momentum !!!!

[MojoRisen]

BOOOOOOOOOOMERRRRRR !!!!!!!!!!

[picasso]

Are we still in Shock about 2000~ indeed we threw all over the field with Heupel - he was a special player Juco I may add..

I remember the 99 louisville game when I first realized we were back- Stoops had his boys in the pocket dancing footwork and looking off recievers = we ran to the huddle and surely I knew we were well coached- I watched the game against a Favored Louisville team- we spanked them in the 2nd half- right up the middle- opened it right up.. Those fans who showed up to that Louisville game- I want to hear from you-

Q was there and we were like who is that little mofo... damn he is quick...




excuse my history and emotion...

same here man. things were looking bad until Rideau intercepted that pass near the endzone.
I recall Heupel drawing the Louies offsides and throwing a perfect ball to Jarrail down the sidelines. I also remember his throwing a nice lob to the corner on a goal line play, I was thinking wow, we can run THAT play?
heh.

[Salt City Sooner]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores99/99268/99268368.htm

[start8]

What stands out

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We've come a long way.

[picasso]

What stands out

Att: 41,214


We've come a long way.
game was at Louisville. Pappa John's Stadium, Mike Leach ordered a pizza.

[start8]

Thanks...what did we average during the bad years?