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NickZeppelin
1/12/2006, 04:32 PM
3-POINT FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE
(Min. 100 attempts)
Player Pct. Seasons
1. Quannas White ...............435 ........... 2002-03
2. Kelley Newton .................420 ........... 2000-01
3. J.R. Raymond .................408 ........... 2000-01
4. Dave Sieger ....................405 ........... 1984-88
5. Eric Martin .......................399 ........... 1998-99
6. Brent Price........................399............1991-92
7. Tim Heskett .....................398 ........... 1997-01
8. Tim McCalister ................397 ........... 1984-87
9. Nate Erdmann .................396 ........... 1996-97
10. Hollis Price ......................392 ........... 2000-03


Does anyone realize a pattern here? 7 Of these were Kelvin guys.

That's impossible because Kelvin's guys can't shoot 3's.

soonerlaw
1/12/2006, 04:51 PM
Where's Mookie at?

critical_phil
1/12/2006, 05:05 PM
what year was the 3 pointer introduced in college bball?

OklahomaTrombone
1/12/2006, 05:12 PM
1987

MojoRisen
1/12/2006, 05:15 PM
1987


Brent Price didn't play long enough- he would be up their!

NickZeppelin
1/12/2006, 05:20 PM
Brent Price had enough attempts. He just isn't in the top 10. Same with Mookie.

NickZeppelin
1/12/2006, 05:31 PM
After looking through the stats on that same page
Link (http://www.soonersports.com/pdf5/21336.pdf?ATCLID=203253&SPSID=2512&SPID=192&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=300)

It is wrong because Brent Price isn't listed he had enough attempts and has a .399 3pt % it just wasn't listed. That's the only miss I can see on it though. Mookie shot .379 from 3 pt land for those curious.

I have corrected the omition of Price and but it's still more Kelvin guys then Tubbs guys.

OklahomaTrombone
1/12/2006, 05:36 PM
Oh and the pattern I see is that when you've been a coach at a place for the majority of the time that there has been a 3 point line you probably are going to have the majority of the guys in most if not all the 3 point statistical categories.

CtheB
1/12/2006, 05:37 PM
Basically, what I am hearing is that Kelvin's offensive success centers around a great 3 point shooter. This year we don't have one, but we do have great big men. Seems to me that "great" coaches find a way to win with the talent they have, rather than expect the talent they have to adapt to their style.

Repeating, the difference between this year's Sooners and prior editions (sans 2003-2004) is that we do not have anyone that can pull Kelvin's futile offense out of the fire.

Sadly, if Wayman comes to OU ten years later, there is no shrine of him on the LNC wall.

NickZeppelin
1/12/2006, 05:38 PM
Not necessarily 3 point shooting, although that's part of it, but just guard play in general. Typical Kelvin teams have good guard play. This year and the middle of last year and in 2003-2004(because of young and injuries as much as anything) the guard play wasn't as good.

CtheB
1/12/2006, 05:47 PM
That's scary, because Kelvin's specialty (supposedly) is coaching guards. We had to get Hoffman so we could learn to coach big men. And let's drop the "player turnover" talk...every kid that has left the program wanted to come to OU at some point, and was good enough for OU to offer, so where's the problem? Did basketball become too much work? COuldn't hack school and hoops together? Drug problems? Miss home? Or is it just the fact that they were sick of seeing all of their AAU friends living large at other schools while they were smashing themselves to pieces in practice with the reward of scoring 7 points a game?

NickZeppelin
1/12/2006, 05:56 PM
Sometimes you just don't have guys who can do what you want them to do. Now there are injury issues with Neal and Johnsons right now. But Everett still shouldn't be playing this badly.

OUstud
1/12/2006, 06:08 PM
I see what you're trying to say, but this is like saying Vince Lombardi's teams had less plays overturned by replay than Mike Sherman's, and therefore were more successful.