Sporting News way early Top 10

[mrowl]

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=52343

The 2006 top 10

1. Ohio State. Beat Texas in Austin and the rest of the ride is cake.

2. Auburn. If QB Brandon Cox develops significantly, Aubie could duplicate 2004.

3. West Virginia. Let's see the Mountaineers play big with everyone watching.

4. USC. New QB, new RBs, revamped O-line; yeah, like it matters.

5. Oklahoma. You'd better believe those four losses burn inside ultracompetitive coach Bob Stoops.

6. Notre Dame. The schedule is brutal, and the defense is desperate for speed in the secondary.

7. Virginia Tech. Coach Frank Beamer must rein in the Hokies' freewheeling personalities.

8. Florida. At what point will Gators fans clamor for freshman QB Tim Tebow?

9. California. Fullback-turned-quarterback Steve Levy and other stud skill players are putting it all together.

10. Texas. The Horns are loaded but have zero experience at the most important position.

Heisman watch

QB Troy Smith, Ohio State. Let's see, a breakout performance in a BCS game to set up the following season. Sounds (and plays) a lot like some dude named Vince.

RB Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma. If he's healthy, he could reach 2,000 yards. He's that good, and the Big 12 -- other than Texas -- will be that bad.

QB Brady Quinn, Notre Dame. He has the numbers, the ND publicity machine and the All-American looks.

QB Pat White, West Virginia. And to think Alabama and Auburn wanted the Daphne, Ala., native to play wide receiver or defensive back.

RB Marshawn Lynch, California. He's a fast, powerful back primed for a big season -- and to grab attention away from the USC Heisman factory.

[mrowl]

noticeably missing? LSU...

[soonerlaw]

The only thing this shows is that next year is wide open. Any one of those teams or even a few others IMO (GA, PSU, LSU) could be contenders next year. I can't wait. But Auburn at #2....huh.

[BOOMERBRADLEY]

4. USC. New QB, new RBs, revamped O-line; yeah, like it matters.

I can't tell if this guy is being a smarta** or he's just an idiot?

[TexasLidig8r]

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=52343

RB Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma. If he's healthy, he could reach 2,000 yards. He's that good, and the Big 12 -- other than Texas -- will be that bad.



Obviously, the 5 - 3 bowl record for Big XII teams this year, and Texas beating the bestest team in the history of God has not done much to sway the national media that the rumors of the demise of the quality of the Big XII teams are greatly exaggerated.

[Herr Scholz]

Obviously, the 5 - 3 bowl record for Big XII teams this year, and Texas beating the bestest team in the history of God has not done much to sway the national media that the rumors of the demise of the quality of the Big XII teams are greatly exaggerated.
Exactly. In addition, the Big XII had one of the best OOC records against other BCS conferences before bowl season even started. They don't let facts get in their way.

[Desert Sapper]

noticeably missing? LSU...

Yeah, won't Auburn be surprised when they have some competition in the SEC? I'm thinking there was some crack smoking involved in the high Auburn ranking.

[Desert Sapper]

I can't tell if this guy is being a smarta** or he's just an idiot?

Well, the last time they said USC wouldn't do s*** was when they had that Sophomore quarterback Leinart guy and won the "National Championship" against Michigan in the Rose Bowl. That being said, the great University of South Central will drop at least two games this year, because of inexperience at QB.

[RooseveltRoughRider]

DESERT SAPPER...what battalion are you in?


Essayons brother..

[The Consumate Showman]

Adrian might run closer to 2,500 against some weaker Big XII teams.....If he is 100% healthy????? Just think about his Frosh. year.....If he doesn't get hurt in the aTm game, how many yards would he have ended up with? Scary to think he could've have EASILY gone well over 2,000....would he then be close to lineart in the voting????

[Desert Sapper]

DESERT SAPPER...what battalion are you in?


Essayons brother..

I'm on the Engineer Staff for Third Army in Atlanta. I was in 5th Engineer Battalion before I got here.

[PrideAlum]

the Big 12 -- other than Texas -- will be that bad.


Let's see. The Big Twelve was 5 and 3 in the bowl games. An unranked Big 12 (OU) team beats the number 5 team in the country. The Big 12 produced the MNC team.

If the B12 is that bad please tell me what conference is that good? Name me 3 great teams in the Big least, SEC, ACC? I am really tired of the Big 12 bashing that is occurring among the talking heads and writers and some fans.

[Luthor]

The only problem I have with this list is Troy Smith on the Heisman watch. While I'm certain that he has improved since we played them last September I don't believe he exactly lit up the stat charts compared to other QBs in 05. It obviously helps to be the QB of a team that may finish in the top 2 or 3 in 06 but unless he improves his D reading and decision making skills by 50% in the off season he doesn't deserve to be on an early Heisman list.

[Sooner in Tampa]

I can't tell if this guy is being a smarta** or he's just an idiot?Since he is writing for Sporting News...I am assuming the latter. :D

[Harry Beanbag]

The only problem I have with this list is Troy Smith on the Heisman watch. While I'm certain that he has improved since we played them last September I don't believe he exactly lit up the stat charts compared to other QBs in 05. It obviously helps to be the QB of a team that may finish in the top 2 or 3 in 06 but unless he improves his D reading and decision making skills by 50% in the off season he doesn't deserve to be on an early Heisman list.


2282 yards passing
16 TDs
4 INTs
63% completion %
162.7 passer rating
611 yards rushing
11 TDs


http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?div=4&rpt=IA_playerpasseff&site=org

Looks pretty damn good to me.

[TheLadiesMike]

Virginia Tech doesn't even have a quarterback. What a crappy list.

[RooseveltRoughRider]

I'm on the Engineer Staff for Third Army in Atlanta. I was in 5th Engineer Battalion before I got here.

Cool...the 5th is out of Leonardwood. I was in the 299th @ Hood and the 65th @ Schofield and the 554th @ Belvoir.

[C&CDean]

Cool...the 5th is out of Leonardwood. I was in the 299th @ Hood and the 65th @ Schofield and the 554th @ Belvoir.

Dirty leg, nasty leg.......

[fadada1]

4. USC. New QB, new RBs, revamped O-line; yeah, like it matters.

6. Notre Dame. The schedule is brutal, and the defense is desperate for speed in the secondary.

4. yeah, it DOES matter. they lose 2-3 games next year. sorry LA celebrities, we'll see you in 10 years again... maybe.

6. yeah, the schedule IS brutal. unfortunately, they lose 3-4 games and still are ranked in the top 10.

[JohnnyMack]

Virginia Tech doesn't even have a quarterback. What a crappy list.

pssst....I'm hiding over here.

http://home.comcast.net/~salawson/play.jpg

[OKC-SLC]

Let me get this straight. A Va Tech team who lost its all-universe, best evar QB is ranked higher than a Texass team who lost its QB who really was all world?

If Texass and Va Tech played each other ten times next year, Texass would win by double figures ten times.

[RooseveltRoughRider]

Dirty leg, nasty leg.......

No Leg here...21U w/ "P"

[The Consumate Showman]

2282 yards passing
16 TDs
4 INTs
63% completion %
162.7 passer rating
611 yards rushing
11 TDs


http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?div=4&rpt=IA_playerpasseff&site=org

Looks pretty damn good to me.


maybe he'll get busted for taking gifts again b-4 the years out.....

[Octavian]

2. Auburn. If QB Brandon Cox develops significantly, Aubie could duplicate 2004.

pretty big IF. 2004 Auburn...heh.


3. West Virginia. Let's see the Mountaineers play big with everyone watching.

maybe its homerish but I dont see WV making it to the 4th quarter if they had to play in Norman or Austin


5. Oklahoma. You'd better believe those four losses burn inside ultracompetitive coach Bob Stoops.

All comes down to the O-Line. (must not stub toe in Eugene....must not stub toe in Eugene...)


6. Notre Dame. The schedule is brutal, and the defense is desperate for speed in the secondary.

They'll be higher. ESPN and ABC can't wait to start promoting Quinn and the domers.


7. Virginia Tech. Coach Frank Beamer must rein in the Hokies' freewheeling personalities.

I think Beamer's a good guy. Had a magnificent dual threat quarterback lead him to a NCG and probably won't ever return


10. Texas. The Horns are loaded but have zero experience at the most important position.

see #7. :texan:




QB Troy Smith, Ohio State. Let's see, a breakout performance in a BCS game to set up the following season. Sounds (and plays) a lot like some dude named Vince.

RB Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma. If he's healthy, he could reach 2,000 yards. He's that good, and the Big 12 -- other than Texas -- will be that bad.

QB Brady Quinn, Notre Dame. He has the numbers, the ND publicity machine and the All-American looks.

If our OLine can produce, Adrian will provide the SportCenter highlight runs necessary to win the Heisman. Smith is fantastic at times....but the harlot's brother has the clear advantage b/c of the gold helmet.

Should be fun to watch...

[The Consumate Showman]

Now that you mention it, Brady Quinn does look like his sister....

[caphorns]

What's interesting is that there will not be a consensus No. 1 going into next year. Top 5 is pretty wide open. This could be a year where none of the teams in the preseason Top 5 end up in the Top 5 at the end of the year. I'd say ND and USC will each get a slot in almost all Top 5s. After that it's a pick 'em among about 10-12 teams. But, I do wonder how someone can comfortably pick tOSU as their No. 1 when they lose 9 starters on their defense?

[Herr Scholz]

But, I do wonder how someone can comfortably pick tOSU as their No. 1 when they lose 9 starters on their defense?
And best wide receiver and best two offensive linemen. Not the same team.

[Soonerwake]

4. yeah, it DOES matter. they lose 2-3 games next year. sorry LA celebrities, we'll see you in 10 years again... maybe.

6. yeah, the schedule IS brutal. unfortunately, they lose 3-4 games and still are ranked in the top 10.

"See you in 10 years again...maybe." Are you serious?? They are stockpiling more talent than the Russians during the Cold War. I agree that they may not dominate next year as in year's past, but they will be good for years to come. Saying that hurts, but it's true... :(

[NormanPride]

They sure seem to recruit offensive skill positions pretty well. But other than a few gets, it doesn't seem like they can get DBs or OLinemen on a consistent basis.

[C&CDean]

No Leg here...21U w/ "P"

You must have been an officer?

11B1P. 2/504 82nd. All the way.

[RooseveltRoughRider]

What is startling about this assessment is the Longhorns at #10. The Horns lose 5 key players...but how can anyone look past what they RETURN? And if you think about UT's biggest games except the Rose Bowl...

VY had mediocre games.. (see AtM, OU, tOSU)
I expect them to be much better than what most people think.

And Ohio State? WOW...they lose the entire D and Santonio Holmes...#1?

We will see....

The SEC teams will all beat eachother , so knock them out the Top 5.
USC's QB looked pretty damn good when I saw him in High School and at SC...buuuuuut...they wont be near as good.

[RooseveltRoughRider]

You must have been an officer?

11B1P. 2/504 82nd. All the way.

Nope. Enlisted. Topographic Engineer.

Holy ****! Your a "Devil In Baggy Pants!"?
My brother went to Iraq with the 1st Battalion last year. Good Regiment.Strike Hold.

[Wishboned]

You must have been an officer?

11B1P. 2/504 82nd. All the way.


11B1V 1st of the 75th (ABN) RANGER

Ranger's lead the way.

[Octavian]

threadjackers

[Desert Sapper]

You must have been an officer?

11B1P. 2/504 82nd. All the way.

AIRBORNE! I ran into one of the Soldiers from B/2/504 when I was in Afghanistan in November. He was escorting his squad leader's body to Bagram.

One of my old Soldiers is in the Engineer platoon from 307 supporting the "White Devils". He's still trying to be an SF medic, but he's struggling with the decision about having to go through the Q-Course again. He made it halfway before being an academic failure last year. Now he's back clearing IEDs in Southwest Asia.

Everybody can follow the infantry after the bangalore opens a hole. Engineers Lead the Way! Essayons. (Sorry, too much coffee this morning)

[Desert Sapper]

Back on topic ...

What should the Top 10 be?

I'm thinking
1. LSU - they sent too much of a message in the Peach Bowl to ignore
2. Now what?

USC loses its entire backfield and then some.
Texas loses the best QB in their history.
OU has O-Line inexperience.
tOSU loses their whole team.

Who's #2?

[caphorns]

LSU - they sent too much of a message in the Peach Bowl that any sucker in the country cannot ignore

Fixed

[Jason White's Third Knee]

Exactly. In addition, the Big XII had one of the best OOC records against other BCS conferences before bowl season even started. They don't let facts get in their way.

All that boils down to the north sucking (huge ksu and neb drop off) and OU losing to ucla and tcu. Those losses put a wacky perception tin the media's mind. But hey, KU and Nebraska won their bowl games. That should have given the media that the north only sucks in the big 12. Compared to the rest of the ncaa they aren't bad.

[OUGreg723]

lol Why would anyone want to rein in the Hokies "Freewheeling Personalities"?

How does that make you team good? Stupid.

[OUGreg723]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000C8AVE.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Dylan is the only guy who's personality is freewheelin. The Hokie's personalities are more along the lines of dangerous

[Jason White's Third Knee]

What is startling about this assessment is the Longhorns at #10. The Horns lose 5 key players...but how can anyone look past what they RETURN? And if you think about UT's biggest games except the Rose Bowl...

VY had mediocre games.. (see AtM, OU, tOSU)
I expect them to be much better than what most people think.

And Ohio State? WOW...they lose the entire D and Santonio Holmes...#1?

We will see....

The SEC teams will all beat eachother , so knock them out the Top 5.
USC's QB looked pretty damn good when I saw him in High School and at SC...buuuuuut...they wont be near as good.


No Reggie Bush... They lose. reggie saved their asses time and time again.

[Jason White's Third Knee]

lol Why would anyone want to rein in the Hokies "Freewheeling Personalities"?

How does that make you team good? Stupid.


I think they meant the dope smoking, gun toting, finger throwing, pile stomping, etc.

[Octavian]

lol Why would anyone want to rein in the Hokies "Freewheeling Personalities"?

How does that make you team good? Stupid.

b/c young kids w/ few rules can make big mistakes that ruin programs

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4839/ct6si.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ct6si.jpg)

<DUCK!>

[RooseveltRoughRider]

Marcus Vick says when asked about getting young girls drunk...

"If There's grass on the field, PLAY BALL!!!!"

[FirstandGoal]

All that boils down to the north sucking (huge ksu and neb drop off) and OU losing to ucla and tcu. Those losses put a wacky perception tin the media's mind. But hey, KU and Nebraska won their bowl games. That should have given the media that the north only sucks compared to the south. Compared to the rest of the ncaa they aren't bad.


fixed:D

[MiccoMacey]

You must have been an officer?

11B1P. 2/504 82nd. All the way.

Not that there's anything wrong with being an officer, I'm sure that's what you meant to say. :rolleyes:

BTW, 11C for the first 10 years, 74A since. All leg. All the time. Lightfighters!!

Oh, and Sapper, I've been assigned to 555th EN Group and 14th EN Bn out of Ft. Lewis, plus the 420th EN BDE in College Station, TX.

[BoomerSoonerTexasscks]

[QUOTE=mrowl]http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=52343

4. USC. New QB, new RBs, revamped O-line; yeah, like it matters.

10. Texas. The Horns are loaded but have zero experience at the most important position.

QUOTE]

So whats the difference in what USC and what Texas are losing? Rating Texas that low because of losing Young and yet saying that Suc will be that good even though they lost what some consider one of the best college QBs ever and one of the best RBs ever is stupid!! I think Petey and Sad Sac need to ask Bob how having an inexperienced QB and O-line goes.

[BASSooner]

even when USC loses...they still get hype....amazing

[BoomerSoonerTexasscks]

even when USC loses...they still get hype....amazing

I was thinking the same thing. Imagine the hell we would all be in if they had won:eek:

[BASSooner]

I was thinking the same thing. Imagine the hell we would all be in if they had won:eek:
It would be worse than hell dude.

[BASSooner]

someone needs to blank them like 56-14

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Obviously, the 5 - 3 bowl record for Big XII teams this year, and Texas beating the bestest team in the history of God has not done much to sway the national media that the rumors of the demise of the quality of the Big XII teams are greatly exaggerated.I called a local sports talk show here in PHX the other day, and stated what you said. Dude cut me off(hung up on me) after I made my point, then just said the Big 12 has "a bunch of so-so teams". No more commentary on the subject. Moral of the story-nobody likes to admit it when they're wrong.:D

[Harry Beanbag]

I called a local sports talk show here in PHX the other day, and stated what you said. Dude cut me off(hung up on me) after I made my point, then just said the Big 12 has "a bunch of so-so teams". No more commentary on the subject. Moral of the story-nobody likes to admit it when they're wrong.:D


Which show? None of them know anything about college football.

[Texas Golfer]

[QUOTE=mrowl]http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=52343

4. USC. New QB, new RBs, revamped O-line; yeah, like it matters.

10. Texas. The Horns are loaded but have zero experience at the most important position.

QUOTE]

So whats the difference in what USC and what Texas are losing? Rating Texas that low because of losing Young and yet saying that Suc will be that good even though they lost what some consider one of the best college QBs ever and one of the best RBs ever is stupid!! I think Petey and Sad Sac need to ask Bob how having an inexperienced QB and O-line goes.

This caught my eye, too. UT is #1 and loses VY. So they drop to #10. USC is #2 and loses ML, RB, and LW and drop to #4. This, in itself, makes no sense. Considering that UT's recruiting class is also higher than USC's, this only further contradicts their rankings.

[GreaterState]

Dylan is the only guy who's personality is freewheelin. The Hokie's personalities are more along the lines of dangerous

http://www.studiozero.com/vick.jpg

I don't know, the 'do kinda suits him.

Freewheelin' players are great when they're dazzling the country and leading your team to the cusp of title contention. Then the next thing you know, some hours after their announcement that they are going to try to impress a select set of 32 hiring managers, they're at Mickey D's wavin' guns around.

Back on topic, Ohio State seems kind of high for what they're losing and Auburn seems kind of high period. I can't support the Domers being #1. Maybe West Virginia should be the consensus top team coming out ...

[BASSooner]

[QUOTE=BoomerSoonerTexasscks]

This caught my eye, too. UT is #1 and loses VY. So they drop to #10. USC is #2 and loses ML, RB, and LW and drop to #4. This, in itself, makes no sense. Considering that UT's recruiting class is also higher than USC's, this only further contradicts their rankings.
USC also lost Winston Justice who is declaring for the draft early

[KaiserSooner]

I've only partly scanned this thread, but I do agree USC is too high, Texas too low.

With VY gone, yes, Texas will miss a significant part of their offense. But they still have a ton of talent on that team...and don't forget Chizik's defenses either.

I didn't see anyone say this (could have missed it), but I'm very skeptical of rating OU that high just yet. I have to see it on the field to believe it.

[stoopified]

pssst....I'm hiding over here.

http://home.comcast.net/~salawson/play.jpgToo much !

[shavedmarmoset]

Who's #2?

Notre Dame. Think about it. They had a great season behind a first-year coach and have a leader at QB in Brady Quinn. I think these guys are right up there because Charlie Weis is a really freakin good coach. The schedule will either help them a whole lot or hurt them a whole lot and I opt for the former.

Florida will also be somebody to watch. Urban Meyer is also a really freakin good coach and once his team buys into his philosophy and executes consistently, they will be hard to stop.

[PalmBeachSooner]

Well, the last time they said USC wouldn't do s*** was when they had that Sophomore quarterback Leinart guy and won the "National Championship" against Michigan in the Rose Bowl. That being said, the great University of South Central will drop at least two games this year, because of inexperience at QB.


I doubt they lose more than 1. The Pac-10 isn't that good. ND is overrated as always. They have some very talented albeit inexperienced QBs. A top 5 finish is very realistic. Until a Pac-10 team steps up and beats them then I assume they won't lose.

[PalmBeachSooner]

They sure seem to recruit offensive skill positions pretty well. But other than a few gets, it doesn't seem like they can get DBs or OLinemen on a consistent basis.

Sounds like the same problem OU has.

[AzianSooner]

The "Big 12 that bad" of this year holds 5-3 bowl record.

[Herr Scholz]

West Virginia in the Fiesta Bowl next year vs. ?

[1stTimeCaller]

Louisville

[TripleOption14]

Fullback turned Quarterback!!!!!!!.....Thats a hell of a transition! :eek: What kind of mental play will this result in? Well, i guess Bomar trys to be a Fullback sometimes..hmm.. interesting.

[NormanPride]

Sounds like the same problem OU has.

Quite perceptive. ;)