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sanantoniosooner
1/11/2006, 09:57 PM
Some people called me, years ago, and said that I had done a lot of work for their daughter and SIL and they would like me to do some work for them.

I gave them a price, got some money up front and went the the paint store for some supplies. While there I got a call from them and had a cruddy conversation. The manager of the paint store was a freind and he suggested I drive over and hand them the check back. I declined, because I've never found anyone I could'nt satisfy. I was wrong. They wanted panelling in their bathroom. I did it. They didn't like the wood, so I ripped it out and took them with me to select it personally. We went through 70 sheets of natural ask plywood to find 3 they could 'tolerate'. Beautiful wood, but this grain is ziggy. That one has a dark line in the grain. On and on.

I painted the kitchen cabinets and it dried unusually. It looked like tiny bubbles all over and gave it a rough feel. I didn't know what caused it, but I sanded it all down and painted it again. It did it again. I call the paint store and they suggested new paint and thinner. Worked like a charm, but set me back a few days. The people just saw it as an inconveniece for them. They couldn't understand that the addtional materials I purchased and the days wasted cost me more than it inconvenienced them.

There's so much more I could talk about, but I'll cut it down.

Basically, I worked 5 weeks. I would get physically ill driving to their house. Took a check for $1200 and purchased $1400 in materials and a piece of equipment for $800. So 5 weeks and go in the hole $1000. At that point in my life it was devastating.

The SIL I had worked for was a lawyer and I asked him to mediate. He advised them to screw me. So they did. I didn't pursue it, but it's bugged me ever since.

He's a judge in Oklahoma now and I emailed his sorry behind to let him know what I thought of him.

Hopefully I'll feel better about all of it now that I've shared and this twitch in my eye will stop. (I actually had an eye twitch for about a year after and YES that thread reminded me of all this)

SoonerBorn68
1/11/2006, 10:03 PM
Be sure to tell him you know where he lives. :D

Hopefully it'll do you some good & it'll ruin his day.

I've done that before, only the person I confronted was in public & I let him know what I thought of him rather loudly.

BajaOklahoma
1/11/2006, 10:26 PM
That sucks.
I beleive what comes around, goes around.

Sooner_Bob
1/11/2006, 11:04 PM
I knew it . . . sas is really SoonerWill.
















I kid, I kid . . . :D

Okla-homey
1/11/2006, 11:16 PM
You conducted yourself honorably, ergo you are an honorable man. That's something they couldn't take away from you. That's also worth more than diamonds. Let it go bro. Seriously. Otherwise, you're only empowering them to continue hurting you.

85Sooner
1/12/2006, 12:32 AM
Report his a$$ to the bar association. Seriously and let him know you are doing it and tell him to stay away from you. He was not in a position to represent anyone in the dispute. (He should have told you that friend or not) Granted you did the work but from my perspective (as a contractor for services,) the kitchen paint was on you, the rest on the customer. BTW i have had to pay the price too. Live and learn but screw the attorney/ broked!ck judge.

sanantoniosooner
1/12/2006, 07:33 AM
Report his a$$ to the bar association. Seriously and let him know you are doing it and tell him to stay away from you. He was not in a position to represent anyone in the dispute. (He should have told you that friend or not) Granted you did the work but from my perspective (as a contractor for services,) the kitchen paint was on you, the rest on the customer. BTW i have had to pay the price too. Live and learn but screw the attorney/ broked!ck judge.
It's all old news. At the time he told me that he had lost money with client before, and it was just a part of business. I just wanted him to know that it was probably easier for him to recover from his losses than it was for me to recover from ours.

Seriously, he was running for some office prior to our moving to San Antonio and I had to see his name on yard signs all around where I was living for a month. Hard to move on when the tards name is everywhere you look.

OU4LIFE
1/12/2006, 07:39 AM
don't worry about it. Just wait until he get's busted for using a penis pump then call him up and laugh at him.

VeeJay
1/12/2006, 08:47 AM
Somebody noticed I had painted the exterior of my house a couple of years ago and commented on how good it looked - I had never painted the exterior of a house before, and thought, well, if I screw it up it's mine and I'll get a professional to fix it.

This person tried to recruit me to paint someone's house and asked me to give them an estimate.

Heh. Fat chance. What they didn't know was it took me four months to do it.

You did the right thing but it sucks that you went in the hole on the cost of materials.

Taxman71
1/12/2006, 09:32 AM
I would consider this a not-so-cheap lesson and a way to avoid having to work for these people ever again. Get stuck paying for a customer/client's materials or expenses once and you have a great story for the next guy who swears payment will not be a problem.

1stTimeCaller
1/12/2006, 09:40 AM
As a contrator I don't see what the problem is. You gave them a firm fixed price to do the work. They paid you that money, I'm assuming. It's not the owner's fault you put up material before they approved it. It's not the owner's fault the paint dried unusually.

If they didn't pay you the monies you agreed upon at first then yes, they are ****** bags. If they did, you learned why restaurants and construction companies are the riskiest two ventures to get into.

sanantoniosooner
1/12/2006, 01:47 PM
If they didn't pay you the monies you agreed upon at first then yes, they are ****** bags. If they did, you learned why restaurants and construction companies are the riskiest two ventures to get into.
They were supposed to pay about another $1400 to finish paying for the job.

I knocked $500 of to try and settle and they refused to do even that.

Small claims court would have been the right place to go, but I felt like I had to work double time after that just to try and catch up. And with their SIL being a lawyer I knew I was overmatched as far as understanding laws and procedures.

I just want the dude to remember how he treated me and consider how he might address a similar situation as a judge now.

1stTimeCaller
1/12/2006, 01:52 PM
you should have filed a lien against their house. next time, I guess.

There's nothing much sorrier than a person that doesn't pay contractors what the contractor is owed. And this guy is now a judge in Oklahoma? Figures.

Herr Scholz
1/12/2006, 01:58 PM
sanantonio:

It's a short drive for me down there. Let me know if you want me to take care of him for you. You can contact me at dirtydeedsdonedirtcheap.com. I could just frame him for kiddie porn or something along those lines. Let me know.

sanantoniosooner
1/12/2006, 02:00 PM
It was his inlaws that wouldn't pay me....with his advice, of course. I did a lot of work for him and his brother. Never had a problem with either. Until the old pharts.

I would leave their house on Friday or Saturday and they'd be happy. Only to return Monday and they'd be on the porch waiting for me to gripe about something. If it was a 9-5 job, I would have quit, but you think you can just tough it out a little longer.

sanantoniosooner
1/12/2006, 02:02 PM
sanantonio:

It's a short drive for me down there. Let me know if you want me to take care of him for you. You can contact me at dirtydeedsdonedirtcheap.com. I could just frame him for kiddie porn or something along those lines. Let me know.
Took place in the MWC/Del City area. Even that might be too specific for the industrious.

Herr Scholz
1/12/2006, 02:36 PM
Took place in the MWC/Del City area. Even that might be too specific for the industrious.
I drove through OKC Christmas-time. The inlaws live up in Wichita. Next Christmas I'll take him out.

Taxman71
1/12/2006, 02:43 PM
Took place in the MWC/Del City area. Even that might be too specific for the industrious.

That is my old stomping ground. If necessary, I can arrange a rumble at jetski cover at Lake Draper.

SoonerWood
1/12/2006, 02:45 PM
That guy is why God invented sniper rifles.

Pieces Hit
1/12/2006, 02:50 PM
Wasn't that a tax write off?

FirstandGoal
1/12/2006, 03:08 PM
Took place in the MWC/Del City area. Even that might be too specific for the industrious.


Heh, I grew up in MWC. :(
Couldn't get out of there quick enough...

sanantoniosooner
1/12/2006, 06:39 PM
Wasn't that a tax write off?
You don't need a write off when you are just trying to pay the bills and put food on the table.

Sooner24
1/13/2006, 01:34 AM
Be sure to tell him you know where he lives. :D

Hopefully it'll do you some good & it'll ruin his day.

I've done that before, only the person I confronted was in public & I let him know what I thought of him rather loudly.


I just did this to be funny: :D

A couple of years ago at the Big XII Basketball Tournament in Dallas I saw Mike Turpin talking to 3 other guys. I walked over stuck out my hand and with a funny, do I know you look, he started to shake my hand. As he did I loudly said, "Hey Mike it's great to see you again." "So when did you get paroled?" People all around stoped and looked over at us. He just stood there with this blank look on his face and the three guys he was talking too were all dying laughing as I turned and walked off. :D