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jdsooner
1/5/2006, 03:16 AM
Sooners are #22

Associated Press Top 25
No. School Record Points Prev
1 Texas 13-0 1625 2
2 Southern California 12-1 1560 1
3 Penn State 11-1 1484 3
4 Ohio State 10-2 1428 4
5 West Virginia 11-1 1325 11
6 LSU 11-2 1314 10
7 Virginia Tech 11-2 1197 12
8 Alabama 10-2 1081 13
9 Notre Dame 9-3 1019 5
10 Georgia 10-3 994 8
11 TCU 11-1 937 14
12 Florida 9-3 817 16
12 Oregon 10-2 817 6
14 Auburn 9-3 799 7
15 Wisconsin 10-3 786 21
16 UCLA 10-2 778 17
17 Miami (Fla.) 9-3 589 9
18 Boston College 9-3 545 19
19 Louisville 9-3 410 15
20 Texas Tech 9-3 359 18
21 Clemson 8-4 339 23
22 Oklahoma 8-4 329 _
23 Florida State 8-5 232 22
24 Nebraska 8-4 128 _
25 California 8-4 45 _
Others Receiving Votes: Toledo 35, Tulsa 34, Michigan 26, Nevada 25, Navy 20, Iowa 19, Fresno St. 8, Virginia 7, Boise St. 3, Kansas 2, N.C. State 2, Northwestern 2, Arizona St. 1, Georgia Tech 1, Missouri 1, South Carolina 1, Utah 1.

Blue
1/5/2006, 03:18 AM
Clemson? Pffft!

Octavian
1/5/2006, 03:22 AM
Clemson? Pffft!

I second that pffft! Tech too

OUfan7
1/5/2006, 03:58 AM
7 of OUr opponents finished in the Top 27. We played a tough schedule, tougher than it looked before the season began.

snp
1/5/2006, 05:07 AM
Eh, we SHOULD be infront of tech, but they bought/earned it. They beat us and have one more loss.

F them anyways. Wait til next year.

GET YER GRADES UP

boomersooner28
1/5/2006, 05:44 AM
Weird...I coulda swore we beat Oregon.

TMcGee86
1/5/2006, 08:56 AM
At first I felt we got hosed being so low, but after looking at it there are only a few that I really think we should be above.

Clemson???

And still, at the end of the day, how does us beating Oregon equal TEN spots worse?

And I bet sconsin is pizzed. That's just rubbing it in their face.

Poles are dum.

Widescreen
1/5/2006, 09:05 AM
Too bad Tulsa wasn't able to squeeze in.

OklahomaTuba
1/5/2006, 09:20 AM
How the hell did KU get votes?

Veritas
1/5/2006, 09:24 AM
So four of 12 Big 12 schools end up in the top 25? Weak conference my ***.

william_brasky
1/5/2006, 09:28 AM
Penn State is not the 3rd best team in the nation.

Pieces Hit
1/5/2006, 09:39 AM
22nd in the Nation on a building year?
Heck yeah.
Oregon should be beneath us or we should be ranked higher though.
We weren't firing on all cylinders but we will bring more next year.

sanantoniosooner
1/5/2006, 09:42 AM
Penn State is not the 3rd best team in the nation.
Who do you put there?

OSU?

WV?

PSU deserves it as much as anybody else.

The sad fact is that this year 3rd is light years from 2nd.

Jay C. Upchurch
1/5/2006, 10:12 AM
Final Facts on OU's Season

*Oklahoma won six of its last seven games to finish 8-4.

*OU defeated 10-1 and No. 6-ranked Oregon in the Pacific Life
Holiday Bowl, 17-14.

*Oklahoma was one of only three teams (West Virginia, Texas) to defeat a 10-win team in a bowl game this season.

*Oklahoma played the nation's toughest schedule. The teams OU encountered this season finished a combined 84-38 (.696).

*The bowl teams that appeared on OU's regular season schedule went 6-1 in post-season play. The only loss was Texas Tech's last-second setback in the Cotton Bowl.

Big John
1/5/2006, 10:22 AM
I'm surprised at how good the non-conference teams that OU scheduled were. At the beginning of the season, I was thinking that OU would beat TCU by a fair amount, blow-out Tulsa, and beat UCLA in a close game. TCU finished 11 and UCLA finished 16. Tulsa ended up in a bowl game. That is why OU's schedule is the toughest in the nation.

Sooner47
1/5/2006, 10:23 AM
Final Facts on OU's Season

*Oklahoma won six of its last seven games to finish 8-4.

*OU defeated 10-1 and No. 6-ranked Oregon in the Pacific Life
Holiday Bowl, 17-14.

*Oklahoma was one of only three teams (West Virginia, Texas) to defeat a 10-win team in a bowl game this season.

*Oklahoma played the nation's toughest schedule. The teams OU encountered this season finished a combined 84-38 (.696).

*The bowl teams that appeared on OU's regular season schedule went 6-1 in post-season play. The only loss was Texas Tech's last-second setback in the Cotton Bowl.

I will never accept nor acknowledge that we lost to Texas Tech - our real record was 9-3 this year and we won our last seven games. Period.

sanantoniosooner
1/5/2006, 10:24 AM
I will never accept nor acknowledge that we lost to Texas Tech - our real record was 9-3 this year and we won our last seven games. Period.
And BYU never won a national championship also............;)

HuskerPower
1/5/2006, 10:53 AM
How the hell did KU get votes?

Mangino is the size of 2 coaches, so he gets 2 votes

BoomerJack
1/5/2006, 11:14 AM
I was thinking that we would finish somewhere between 15 - 20. This final ranking almost makes going to the bowl a no-win situation.

But these two points made above say a lot about this season:

*Oklahoma played the nation's toughest schedule. The teams OU encountered this season finished a combined 84-38 (.696).

*The bowl teams that appeared on OU's regular season schedule went 6-1 in post-season play. The only loss was Texas Tech's last-second setback in the Cotton Bowl.


I have a hunch that 20 - 25 years from now after Bob Stoops has retired and reflects on his coaching career, he will point to this season and the Holiday Bowl win as one of the most gratifying of his career.

sooneron
1/5/2006, 11:16 AM
We should be 20. Put tech and clemson at 21 and 22.

mrowl
1/5/2006, 11:16 AM
22nd sounds about right.

But TCU got screwed. The should be in the top 10, and next year they are going to be even better.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/5/2006, 11:17 AM
Penn State is not the 3rd best team in the nation.How the *ell did they beat tOSU?

OklahomaRed
1/5/2006, 11:24 AM
Eh, we SHOULD be infront of tech, but they bought/earned it. They beat us and have one more loss.

F them anyways. Wait til next year.

GET YER GRADES UP


Ditto. Tech DID NOT beat us. They had their whore officials beat us. We should definitely be in front of those losers. I can't wait to get their rear ends in Norman next year.

Sooners through thick and thin!!

Salt City Sooner
1/5/2006, 11:28 AM
"Oklahoma played the nation's toughest schedule. The teams OU encountered this season finished a combined 84-38 (.696).

It's actually 96-46, for a .676 pct. Still, there isn't anybody around who can touch that.

TCU 11-1
Tulsa 9-4
UCLA 10-2
KSU 5-6
UT 13-0
KU 7-5
BU 5-6
NU 8-4
A&M 5-6
TT 9-3
OSU 4-7
UO 10-2

walkoffsooner
1/5/2006, 11:58 AM
The talking heads poll? Scratch your butt smell it vote.Good Day

OUmillenium
1/5/2006, 12:01 PM
Mangino is the size of 2 coaches, so he gets 2 votes

LOL...I was really pulling for KU (because of Mangino, no other reason) in their bowlgame. I hope they keep improving.

caphorns
1/5/2006, 12:17 PM
BCS conferences rule. 9 of the top 10 and 23 of top 25 are from BCS conferences this year.

As for conferences:
SEC - 5
Big 12 - 4
ACC - 4
Pac 10 - 4
Big Ten - 3
Big Least - 3

I'm amazed at how the Big Ten looks about dead even with the Big Least. But the Big 12 is still getting little respect. Other than Texas, our 3 second best teams end up in the 20-25 spot despite some very good bowl game performances. And why did Alabama move up 5 spots for eeking out a win over Tech? Seems like an awefully big move for a very near loss.

jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
1/5/2006, 12:27 PM
for the record, this is why teams don't play tough schedules. you get absolutely no respect unless you win the games. if this were basketball we'd have been a 2 seed...

TopDawg
1/5/2006, 12:29 PM
for the record, this is why teams don't play tough schedules. you get absolutely no respect unless you win the games. if this were basketball we'd have been a 2 seed...

werd

OUthunder
1/5/2006, 12:41 PM
I figured OU to be at least top 20 material.

TCU & Clemson ahead of us... heh.

Big Red Ron
1/5/2006, 12:48 PM
This is exactly why the BCS was created. The human bias, whether from lack of information or sheer loyalty to a conference or team is clearly evident in this poll. I think the final Harris poll/Coaches Poll/computer averages and strength of schedule formula will have OU near the top 15.

The AP is irrelevant now.

soonerboy_odanorth
1/5/2006, 01:26 PM
Being as subjective as it is, I really didn't have a problem with the list right up to seeing Wisconsin exactly one spot below Auburn, yet having one more win on their record and having thouroughly thrashed them in their bowl game.

Am I missing something here?

Nooooo... there's no regional bias in sports reporting... none at all...

'Scuse me while I join the rest of the sports reporters on the beach... with my head buried in the sand...

bellefay1
1/5/2006, 01:31 PM
Am i the only person that noticed Notre Dame is in the top 10 and they have only beat two teams w/ winning records?

navy 8-4
meechegan 7-5

NEITHER of which are in the FINAL top 25...

RooseveltRoughRider
1/5/2006, 01:34 PM
Given the people OU lost to...

Realistically speaking you would think they should be in at LEAST the top 15. If they can upset the #6 Team that should speak volumes. All the opponents that beat OU won their bowl games, 1 won the national title, 2 won conference championships...and Tech...well, they don't count.

TopDawg
1/5/2006, 01:38 PM
Am i the only person that noticed Notre Dame is in the top 10 and they have only beat two teams w/ winning records?

navy 8-4
meechegan 7-5

NEITHER of which are in the FINAL top 25...

Wow. Just simply wow.

RooseveltRoughRider
1/5/2006, 01:38 PM
HOLY ****!! Why the HELL is Notre Dame ranked in the Top 10!!!?!?!?!?

jdsooner
1/5/2006, 01:50 PM
I would have put Tulsa in over Florida State.

JLB
1/5/2006, 02:06 PM
HOLY ****!! Why the HELL is Notre Dame ranked in the Top 10!!!?!?!?!?
Biased Media.

sooneron
1/5/2006, 02:15 PM
Sooneron's Top 25

No. School Record
1 Texas 13-0
2 Southern California 12-1
3 Penn State 11-1
4 LSU 11-2
5 West Virginia 11-1
6 tOSU 10-2
7 Virginia Tech 11-2
8 Alabama 10-2
9 TCU 11-1
10 Georgia 10-3
11 Wisconsin 10-3
12 Florida 9-3
13 Auburn 9-3
14 Notre Dame 9-3
15 UCLA 10-2
16 Boston College 9-3
17 Miami (Fla.) 9-3
18 Oregon 10-2
19 Louisville 9-3
20 Oklahoma 8-4*
21 Clemson 8-4
22 Texas Tech 9-3
23 Florida State 8-5
24 Nebraska 8-4
25 California 8-4
Others Receiving Votes: Toledo 35, Tulsa 34, Michigan 26, Nevada 25, Navy 20, Iowa 19, Fresno St. 8, Virginia 7, Boise St. 3, Kansas 2, N.C. State 2, Northwestern 2, Arizona St. 1, Georgia Tech 1, Missouri 1, South Carolina 1, Utah 1.

OhU1
1/5/2006, 02:23 PM
Tulsa finished ahead of Michigan. TCU was 11th. When everyone looked at our schedule this year the first two games looked like cup cake tune ups. We didn't play well at the start of the year but now there's no denying Tulsa and TCU are very good teams.

Luthor
1/5/2006, 02:31 PM
Why did I know that frigg'n Notre Dame would finish in the top 10 even though the nearest other 9 win team is Auburn at #14! My gawd can't this crap be left alone for a frigg'n moment without the politicians working yet another handjob into the calculations? Pathetic.

westcoast_sooner
1/5/2006, 03:13 PM
Weird...I coulda swore we beat Oregon.

Saw it with my own eyes, but I would expect that the rankings would still have them ranked higher, just due to their record. Certainly 22 isn't where I would like us to be, and we can say we DID beat someone.

cjames317
1/6/2006, 02:44 PM
Sooners are #22

Associated Press Top 25
No. School Record Points Prev
1 Texas 13-0 1625 2
2 Southern California 12-1 1560 1
3 Penn State 11-1 1484 3
4 Ohio State 10-2 1428 4
5 West Virginia 11-1 1325 11
6 LSU 11-2 1314 10
7 Virginia Tech 11-2 1197 12
8 Alabama 10-2 1081 13
9 Notre Dame 9-3 1019 5
10 Georgia 10-3 994 8
11 TCU 11-1 937 14
12 Florida 9-3 817 16
12 Oregon 10-2 817 6
14 Auburn 9-3 799 7
15 Wisconsin 10-3 786 21
16 UCLA 10-2 778 17
17 Miami (Fla.) 9-3 589 9
18 Boston College 9-3 545 19
19 Louisville 9-3 410 15
20 Texas Tech 9-3 359 18
21 Clemson 8-4 339 23
22 Oklahoma 8-4 329 _
23 Florida State 8-5 232 22
24 Nebraska 8-4 128 _
25 California 8-4 45 _
Others Receiving Votes: Toledo 35, Tulsa 34, Michigan 26, Nevada 25, Navy 20, Iowa 19, Fresno St. 8, Virginia 7, Boise St. 3, Kansas 2, N.C. State 2, Northwestern 2, Arizona St. 1, Georgia Tech 1, Missouri 1, South Carolina 1, Utah 1.

Texas beat two stout teams (#2 & #4) and two more top 25 teams this year. How does that compare to OU's 2000 championship year?

BermudaSooner
1/6/2006, 03:42 PM
Sagarin has OU at #9.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt05.htm

Snyder Cyclone
1/6/2006, 03:55 PM
what a joke. No way should you rank Louisville, Tech, or Clemson ahead of OU based on regular season and bowl performances.

BermudaSooner
1/6/2006, 04:00 PM
Texas beat two stout teams (#2 & #4) and two more top 25 teams this year. How does that compare to OU's 2000 championship year?

OU beat #5, #8, #9 (twice) and #12

http://www.soonerstats.com/fb/polls/ap/seasons.cfm?SeasonID=2000

The rankings when we beat them were:

#11, #2, #1, #8, #3

http://www.soonerstats.com/fb/polls/ap/teams.cfm?SeasonID=2000&TeamID=103