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BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 12:50 PM
http://www.8secondchallenge.com/soonerfans/hornets.jpg

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 12:52 PM
I believe that I am one of the first 200 people to reserve season tickets for the Hornets.

Fugue
9/21/2005, 12:53 PM
I can fly.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 12:53 PM
I believe that, combined with our shared OU season basketball tickets, bigredsooner and I are going to see a buttload of basketball this year.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 12:54 PM
I believe that even with crappy OU football, this can still be one of my best seasons as a sports fan, ever.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 12:55 PM
I believe that having season tickets to OU football, basketball, and NBA basketball might be a little excessive, but what the hell?

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 12:56 PM
I believe that the restaurants and clubs in Bricktown better be getting their VIP rooms and policies up to NBA standards in a hurry.

sooneron
9/21/2005, 12:58 PM
I believe there are no nudie bars near Bricktown.

Jimminy Crimson
9/21/2005, 12:59 PM
I believe in the Honeybees!

http://www.nba.com/media/hornets/Honeybee-800X600.jpg

Jimminy Crimson
9/21/2005, 01:00 PM
I believe there are no nudie bars near Bricktown.

I believe that might change. :texan:

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 01:01 PM
I believe there are no nudie bars near Bricktown.I believe you are wrong. I believe the Roadrunner at Reno and May has the hottest girls and the coldest beer. I believe I read that on their sign.

King Crimson
9/21/2005, 01:01 PM
the children are the future?

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 01:01 PM
I believe that might change. :texan:I believe you might be right.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 01:02 PM
And I, too, believe in the Honeybees.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 01:03 PM
I believe that owning an NBA-quality arena debt free allowed for an unbelievably low ticket price structure, as I believe I have pointed out before in "can OKC support major league sports?" threads.

Mjcpr
9/21/2005, 01:05 PM
Big woop. We've got the 66'ers.

:O

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 01:06 PM
I believe almost half of the tickets will be below $20 per game, with even some tickets around $10. I believe lower bowl tickets, which I reserved, will be less than $30 per game, with a pair going for less than 2 large for the entire season. I believe there will be a ton of butts in the seats.

Mjcpr
9/21/2005, 01:08 PM
What are the odds OKC has to pony up the $10 mil if the Hornets don't reach the $40 mil "benchmark" ? That going to be a problem in your opinion?

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 01:08 PM
I believe that even if the Hornets move back to NOLA after this season or next, OKC will be next in line for a team that's shopping, based on the success of this venture.

OUDoc
9/21/2005, 01:08 PM
I believe there will be a ton of butts in the seats.
A "Fat Fans" night, huh? :D

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
9/21/2005, 01:08 PM
I believe you are wrong. I believe the Roadrunner at Reno and May has the hottest girls and the coldest beer. I believe I read that on their sign.And they have a new brick building to show for it too!

King Crimson
9/21/2005, 01:08 PM
i read people talking about 50$ as a ticket price, but i've bought nosebleeds for Nuggets games--against the Suns, last season for instance, for 16$. it's not as bad per ticket as the NHL, say.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
9/21/2005, 01:09 PM
I believe that BigRedJed must have lost his cell phone because he doesn't return voice mails

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
9/21/2005, 01:10 PM
Or maybe BigRedJed believes I should take a hint.

Boarder
9/21/2005, 01:11 PM
Don't know where I am in line, but I gots my confirmation number.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 01:11 PM
What are the odds OKC has to pony up the $10 mil if the Hornets don't reach the $40 mil "benchmark" ? That going to be a problem in your opinion?I believe the city itself only has about $3.5 million exposure. I belive the worst case scenario assumes nobody at all attends the games. I believe that scenario is next to impossible. I also believe the state and local businessmen (Aubrey McClendon and Tom Ward of Chesapeake, Clay Bennett and Geoff Records of MidFirst) assume part of the possible loss. I believe there is very little risk, and a huge financial upside for the city and its taxpayers.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 01:12 PM
I believe that BigRedJed must have lost his cell phone because he doesn't return voice mailsI believe that I am sorry for that.

OUDoc
9/21/2005, 01:12 PM
Don't know where I am in line, but I gots my confirmation number.
What is it? ;)


Oh, and I'll need your SS# too, if you don't mind.

Mjcpr
9/21/2005, 01:12 PM
I believe the city itself only has about $3.5 million exposure. I belive the worst case scenario assumes nobody at all attends the games. I believe that scenario is next to impossible. I also believe the state and local businessmen (Aubrey McClendon and Tom Ward of Chesapeake, Clay Bennett and Geoff Records of MidFirst) assume part of the possible loss. I believe there is very little risk, and a huge financial upside for the city and its taxpayers.
I see.....I was just curious. I saw something about that liability in the paper today.

I hope they draw well in OKC.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 01:13 PM
A "Fat Fans" night, huh? :DI believe that here in OKC, most of us are fat. So yes.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
9/21/2005, 01:13 PM
I believe that I am sorry for that.I believe that you still owe me drinks at Makers.

I also believe that I need to take you out to birthday dinner after I get back from Beantown next week.

opksooner
9/21/2005, 01:13 PM
I believe I'll have another beer.

Mjcpr
9/21/2005, 01:14 PM
I also believe that I need to take you out to birthday dinner after I get back from Beantown next week.
Sorry, Houston's closed. Moose out front shoulda toldya.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 01:15 PM
I see.....I was just curious. I saw something about that liability in the paper today.

I hope they draw well in OKC.I believe the city also shares in the profits if the team makes 105% of its local revenue total from last year. I believe that's a pretty good deal for the city.

Sooner51
9/21/2005, 01:15 PM
Even though it was not referencing the bbq joint.

I cannot believe Jed didn't mention ribs in the Earl thread.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 01:16 PM
Even though it was not referencing the bbq joint.

I cannot believe Jed didn't mention ribs in the Earl thread.I believe I'm slipping. Mmmm... ...ribs.

OUDoc
9/21/2005, 01:17 PM
http://us.ent1.yimg.com/images.launch.yahoo.com/000/019/778/19778131.jpg
I Still Believe
Great album.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 01:18 PM
I see.....I was just curious. I saw something about that liability in the paper today.

I hope they draw well in OKC.I believe lots of people in T-town (and Wichita, and Amarillo, and all over the state of OK) will come to OKC for games, further helping attendance.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
9/21/2005, 01:18 PM
I believe that I may have to take BigRedJed out for ribs for his birthday dinner.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 01:21 PM
I believe we should make that a South Oval outing. Mmmm... ...ribs...

skycat
9/21/2005, 01:25 PM
Do you believe this will affect attendance at Sooner basketball games? If so, do you believe it will it affect it positively, due to increased bball interest, or negatively, due to increased competition?

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 01:28 PM
Do you believe this will affect attendance at Sooner basketball games? If so, do you believe it will it affect it positively, due to increased bball interest, or negatively, due to increased competition?I believe that my boy bigredsooner and I have been talking about that very thing. I believe short term it could negatively affect attendance at OU bball games, but I believe that long term it makes Oklahoma and the OKC metro much better basketball markets, due to, like you said, increased interest.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
9/21/2005, 01:37 PM
I believe a South Oval outing for BigRedJed's birthday would be in order. I get back in town next Wednesday.

Jimminy Crimson
9/21/2005, 01:40 PM
I believe that there aren't too many conflicts (http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?p=929795#post929795) with the Sooners and Hornets.

:texan:

Harry Beanbag
9/21/2005, 01:43 PM
in the soul, the ****, the *****, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve, and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.

skycat
9/21/2005, 01:44 PM
Oh my!

Rhino
9/21/2005, 02:07 PM
I believe that love is the answer.

Rhino
9/21/2005, 02:08 PM
I believe that love will find the way.

C&CDean
9/21/2005, 02:18 PM
I believe that my scrotum itches.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 02:18 PM
I believe that there aren't too many conflicts (http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?p=929795#post929795) with the Sooners and Hornets.

:texan:I believe that with those few confilcts, I should probably also get some OU women's season tickets in case I'm not getting enough roundball. Maybe I also could get Bishop McGuinness tickets or something like that so that every possible night between November and April is a basketball night.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 02:19 PM
I believe that my scrotum itches.I believe they make a cream for that.

C&CDean
9/21/2005, 02:20 PM
I believe they make a cream for that.

I believe I used that cream for uh something else....

BlondeSoonerGirl
9/21/2005, 02:20 PM
I believe a South Oval outing for BigRedJed's birthday would be in order. I get back in town next Wednesday.

I believe I am IN.

The Maestro
9/21/2005, 02:21 PM
I believe I can't name one player on the Hornets roster. Enjoy!

Veritas
9/21/2005, 02:23 PM
I believe I can't name more than 5 current NBA players from memory.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
9/21/2005, 02:28 PM
I believe I am IN.I believe Jed needs to tell us which night he is free next week. How about Friday?

Paperclip
9/21/2005, 02:28 PM
I believe that for every drop of rain that falls a flower grows.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
9/21/2005, 02:29 PM
I believe in Santa Claus

Paperclip
9/21/2005, 02:30 PM
http://us.ent1.yimg.com/images.launch.yahoo.com/000/019/778/19778131.jpg
I Still Believe
Great album.

Another hot Oklahoma night.

Jimminy Crimson
9/21/2005, 02:33 PM
I believe I can't name one player on the Hornets roster. Enjoy!

Off the top of my head:

JR Smith
David West
Chris Paul
Speedy Claxton
Jamal Magliore
Everyone's favorite ISU Cyclone, Jackson Vroman!

sooneron
9/21/2005, 02:35 PM
I believe we should make that a South Oval outing. Mmmm... ...ribs...
stop by my house!

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/6553/ribcookoffsmoker5zj.jpg

OU4LIFE
9/21/2005, 02:36 PM
I believe Jed Clampett used to say "Wheeee Doggies"

sooneron
9/21/2005, 02:40 PM
Those are three more racks in the foil, btw...

Mjcpr
9/21/2005, 02:40 PM
Those are three more racks in the foil, btw...
Nice sausage.

sooneron
9/21/2005, 02:45 PM
It's one, eh nevermind

TopDawg
9/21/2005, 02:48 PM
Off the top of my head:

JR Smith
David West
Chris Paul
Speedy Claxton
Jamal Magliore
Everyone's favorite ISU Cyclone, Jackson Vroman!

Off the top of my head:

12 Chris Andersen F-C 6-10 228 07/07/1978 Blinn Coll. TX (JC) 4
33 Brandon Bass ** F 6-8 252 04/30/1985 Louisiana State R
42 P.J. Brown C-F 6-11 239 10/14/1969 Louisiana Tech 12
45 Rasual Butler F 6-7 205 05/23/1979 La Salle 3
5 Speedy Claxton G 5-11 170 05/08/1978 Hofstra 4
15 Maciej Lampe F 6-11 275 02/05/1985 Poland 2
9 George Lynch F 6-8 235 09/03/1970 North Carolina 12
6 Arvydas Macijauskas G 6-4 214 01/19/1980 Lithuania R
21 Jamaal Magloire C 6-11 259 05/21/1978 Kentucky 5
10 Bostjan Nachbar F 6-9 221 07/03/1980 Slovenia 3
3 Chris Paul G 6-0 175 05/06/1985 Wake Forest R
23 J.R. Smith G 6-6 220 09/09/1985 St. Benedict's Prep (Newark, NJ) 1
1 Kirk Snyder G 6-6 225 06/05/1983 Nevada-Reno 1
4 Jackson Vroman F-C 6-10 220 06/06/1981 Iowa State 1
30 David West F 6-8 226 08/29/1980 Xavier (Ohio) 2

The Maestro
9/21/2005, 02:51 PM
Off the top of my head:

12 Chris Andersen F-C 6-10 228 07/07/1978 Blinn Coll. TX (JC) 4
33 Brandon Bass ** F 6-8 252 04/30/1985 Louisiana State R
42 P.J. Brown C-F 6-11 239 10/14/1969 Louisiana Tech 12
45 Rasual Butler F 6-7 205 05/23/1979 La Salle 3
5 Speedy Claxton G 5-11 170 05/08/1978 Hofstra 4
15 Maciej Lampe F 6-11 275 02/05/1985 Poland 2
9 George Lynch F 6-8 235 09/03/1970 North Carolina 12
6 Arvydas Macijauskas G 6-4 214 01/19/1980 Lithuania R
21 Jamaal Magloire C 6-11 259 05/21/1978 Kentucky 5
10 Bostjan Nachbar F 6-9 221 07/03/1980 Slovenia 3
3 Chris Paul G 6-0 175 05/06/1985 Wake Forest R
23 J.R. Smith G 6-6 220 09/09/1985 St. Benedict's Prep (Newark, NJ) 1
1 Kirk Snyder G 6-6 225 06/05/1983 Nevada-Reno 1
4 Jackson Vroman F-C 6-10 220 06/06/1981 Iowa State 1
30 David West F 6-8 226 08/29/1980 Xavier (Ohio) 2

Wow...that has to be the worst NBA lineup in decades. Poor Chris Paul stands no chance.

Paperclip
9/21/2005, 02:54 PM
Didn't we play against Speedy Claxton in the tournament sometime recently?

OklahomaTrombone
9/21/2005, 02:55 PM
Shouldn't this be...I beelieve?

and I beelieve I'll get some sort of a mini-season ticket plan

sooneron
9/21/2005, 02:58 PM
Didn't we play against Speedy Claxton in the tournament sometime recently?
We also played against D West when he was at Xavier.

TopDawg
9/21/2005, 03:10 PM
I can't believe that I got negspeked for posting the lineup. When BleedinSoonerRed finds out, he's gonna be ****ed.

TopDawg
9/21/2005, 03:11 PM
By the way, the last number on that lineup thing is years in the NBA. They've only got 3 guys with more than 4 years experience.

I believe I saw the slogan "I believe in experience" at the top of the roster page.

sooneron
9/21/2005, 03:11 PM
I can't believe that I got negspeked for posting the lineup. When BleedinSoonerRed finds out, he's gonna be ****ed.
Chek cp

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 03:22 PM
I believe I can't name one player on the Hornets roster. Enjoy!I believe that nearly every major NBA star will be making a stop in OKC this season. So even if the Hornets stink like they did last year, I believe that I'll get to see regular season performances by Shaq, Lebron James, Vince Carter, Carmello Anthony, Kobe, AI, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Garnett, Steve Nash, Yao Ming, Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace, Tim Duncan, Jason Kidd and about a hundred other names you'd recognize if I bothered to type them out.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 03:37 PM
I believe that News 9 is coming to my office to interview me about being a new Hornets season ticket holder.

TopDawg
9/21/2005, 03:38 PM
I believe the people that matter will care more about our attendance numbers against the Grizzlies, Hawks, Warriors and Bobcats (yes, that is an NBA team) than against the Pistons, Mavericks, Cavs and Lakers.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 03:40 PM
I believe you're right. I also believe that with ticket prices not too far removed from the Blazers', we'll be just fine for crappy games too.

BigRedJed
9/21/2005, 03:41 PM
I believe we'll see average attendance of 15,000+ at the very least. Probably more like 18,000.

Czar Soonerov
9/21/2005, 03:48 PM
I believe that News 9 is coming to my office to interview me about being a new Hornets season ticket holder.

I believe you need to tell Deano that there is a 70/30 chance you going to all the games.

ou4me
9/21/2005, 03:49 PM
Unfortunately, I believe you're a little high on the number.

I hope you're right on.

sooneron
9/21/2005, 03:49 PM
I believe that I am offended that Jed said nothing about my ribz.

The Maestro
9/21/2005, 03:50 PM
I believe that nearly every major NBA star will be making a stop in OKC this season. So even if the Hornets stink like they did last year, I believe that I'll get to see regular season performances by Shaq, Lebron James, Vince Carter, Carmello Anthony, Kobe, AI, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Garnett, Steve Nash, Yao Ming, Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace, Tim Duncan, Jason Kidd and about a hundred other names you'd recognize if I bothered to type them out.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Dude, how did you leave the best player in the NBA, Amare Stoudemire, off that list?

You're about to learn you some NBA this year.

The Maestro
9/21/2005, 03:51 PM
I believe seeing NBA players at Valley of the Dolls should be good entertainment as well.

GrapevineSooner
9/21/2005, 04:31 PM
I believe that Mavericks fans will comprise 70% of the crowd at the Ford Center on New Year's Eve. :D

mrowl
9/21/2005, 04:51 PM
I believe that the OKC Hornets will have a MUCH HIGHER attendance avg. than last year (14,221)

GDC
9/21/2005, 05:07 PM
So our state tax dollars are guaranteed for this NBA team if it loses $, but the city of OKC gets to split the profits if it makes $? WTF is wrong with this picture?

TopDawg
9/21/2005, 07:31 PM
I believe you're right. I also believe that with ticket prices not too far removed from the Blazers', we'll be just fine for crappy games too.

Yeah, the prices are great and I imagine we'll do okay for most of the crappy games. I imagine the people in charge will do promotional things for some of those crappier games just to put butts in the seats.

Jerk
9/21/2005, 07:35 PM
I believe lots of people in T-town (and Wichita, and Amarillo, and all over the state of OK) will come to OKC for games, further helping attendance.

After Rita wipes out Houston, maybe Tulsa can get the Rockets and we can have a serious NBA Turnpike rivalry.

GDC
9/21/2005, 07:51 PM
This is strictly a one season and sayonara thing. OKC could never support a team for the long term, mainly because the NBA sucks.

SoonerInKCMO
9/21/2005, 07:51 PM
So our state tax dollars are guaranteed for this NBA team if it loses $, but the city of OKC gets to split the profits if it makes $? WTF is wrong with this picture?
Tulsa is PWN3D!

:)

mrowl
9/21/2005, 07:54 PM
This is strictly a one season and sayonara thing. OKC could never support a team for the long term, mainly because the NBA sucks.

I disagree... OKC will be able to provide a larger crowd than New Orleans has, or could in the future... they will make money.

GDC
9/21/2005, 07:57 PM
I disagree... OKC will be able to provide a larger crowd than New Orleans has, or could in the future... they will make money.

Sure for one partial season, then the novelty wears off and the customers realize how pathetic and boring the NBA's product actually is, and go away.

sooneron
9/21/2005, 07:58 PM
I still don't think that OKC has the corp $ to keep a team long term.

mrowl
9/21/2005, 08:04 PM
Sure for one partial season, then the novelty wears off and the customers realize how pathetic and boring the NBA's product actually is, and go away.

have you thought that some people like basketball? When I lived in OK, I thought that h.s. basketball was bigger than h.s. football, but I may have been wrong (personally, I hate basketball also)

GDC
9/21/2005, 08:07 PM
have you thought that some people like basketball? When I lived in OK, I thought that h.s. basketball was bigger than h.s. football, but I may have been wrong (personally, I hate basketball also)

I like basketball, but I, and many others, don't like the NBA, that's my point.

sooneron
9/21/2005, 08:25 PM
College basketball marginally > NBA

mrowl
9/21/2005, 08:26 PM
I like basketball, but I, and many others, don't like the NBA, that's my point.

ahh.... I see your point.

OU4LIFE
9/22/2005, 06:49 AM
I believe the camera adds 10 lbs to Jed.

Mjcpr
9/22/2005, 07:46 AM
Tulsa is PWN3D!

:)
We got the 66'ers, so suck it.

;)

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
9/22/2005, 09:28 AM
I believe the camera adds 10 lbs to Jed.I believe I missed seeing him on TV

Rhino
9/22/2005, 09:29 AM
This is strictly a one season and sayonara thing. OKC could never support a team for the long term, mainly because the NBA sucks. Well, they won't be going back to New Orleans in the next couple years at least.

OKC is basically Charlotte. It could work for a couple years.

BigRedJed
9/22/2005, 03:26 PM
Well, they won't be going back to New Orleans in the next couple years at least.

OKC is basically Charlotte. It could work for a couple years.I believe that I agree 100%. I just came from a meeting with an NBA vice-president who says they now (very) conservatively believe, just based on first-day ticket sales, that every game will be around 90% attendance. By this morning, 3500 people had made ticket deposits. They were HOPING for 2000 by Sunday. It has blown away all of the NBA's expectations. He also said the corporate support has been far more than expected.

While it might not be the Hornets (although it very possibly will be, due to the fact NOLA won't be NBA-ready for some time), I am fairly optimistic that there will be an NBA franchise here for some time.

What I have talked about on this site before is that MAPs funded an arena that the city owns free and clear. There is no debt on the facility, which might be unique in the NBA (I'm not certain). This allows the city to provide an aggressive lease that no other cities can match. Combined with the low cost of doing business in OKC, this meant ticket prices could be among the lowest in the league. If OKC can average 10,000+ attendance for more than a decade with 2A hockey at $10 - $15 a seat, we can do 15,000 plus for NBA ball at $10-$30 a seat for most of the arena.

When you combine that with the fact that OKC is the largest U.S. market with no major-league franchise, and very little competition for the entertainment dollar, I think the NBA is here for more than a year.

And, BTW, I HOPE the camera adds 30 pounds, 'cause that was one fat bastard on my TV screen.

BigRedJed
9/22/2005, 03:28 PM
And, BTW, I believe that 90% of the Ford Center's capacity for roundball is more than 17,000. NOLA was averaging about 14,000. You do the math and tell me whether the NBA might be looking at a permanent team here.

BlondeSoonerGirl
9/22/2005, 04:05 PM
I believe I have not been posting in a great way today and I apologize for that.

I also believe that the man is keeping me down.

I believe :mad: .

OklahomaTrombone
9/22/2005, 04:07 PM
And, BTW, I believe that 90% of the Ford Center's capacity for roundball is more than 17,000. NOLA was averaging about 14,000. You do the math and tell me whether the NBA might be looking at a permanent team here.


I believe that if Golden State moved somewhere that their attendance would be vastly improved for the first year.

But after a 20 win season...well....people will start to go disappear....

Czar Soonerov
9/22/2005, 04:07 PM
I believe I watched channel 9 last night and didn't see BRJ. :confused:

BigRedJed
9/22/2005, 04:11 PM
Oh, and I believe the contract calls for the city and local investors to MAKE money (rather than kick in) if the Hornets earn an amount equal 105% of their local revenues from last year. That will require around 14,700 average attendance and corporate sponsorship dollars equal 105% of the sponsorship dollars in NOLA.

Considering the fact that local corporate participation is apparently blowing the doors off their expectations, and the NBA is now projecting 17,000 or more average game attendance, I think that it's looking pretty likely that the city and local investors will actually MAKE money on this year's deal, and that at the very least substanital local subsidy now looks very unlikely.

I believe the Mayor and Council are going to look like freaking geniuses on this one.

C&CDean
9/22/2005, 04:16 PM
Well, they won't be going back to New Orleans in the next couple years at least.

OKC is basically Charlotte. It could work for a couple years.

I believe Charlotte is in North Carolina, Mr. Geography Bee.

Howzit
9/22/2005, 04:18 PM
I believe Charlotte is in Dallas, but she asked we not talk about her, Mr. Insensitive.

BigRedJed
9/22/2005, 04:21 PM
I believe that if Golden State moved somewhere that their attendance would be vastly improved for the first year.

But after a 20 win season...well....people will start to go disappear....I believe you're right. I also believe that would be true of just about any city. You obviously hope for a winning team at some point. But I think to just assume that OKC fans would abandon a mediocre or bad team any worse than, say, Memphis or Sacramento or Charlotte without any evidence to base it on is pure guesswork.

BigRedJed
9/22/2005, 04:24 PM
I do believe Charlotte has a natural advantage based on how big basketball is in North Carolina. However, many make the case that an NFL franchise wouldn't work here because of how big OU football is. You could say the same thing about Charlotte and NCAA hoops.

Jerk
9/22/2005, 05:32 PM
I was surprised by Tulsa radio this morning....at least the hosts were happy and planned on making a few bus trips down to OKC for the games.

If OKC isn't big enough for pro sports then they need to put one the next team in Stroud.

BigRedJed
9/22/2005, 05:35 PM
I believe in the Honeybees!

http://www.nba.com/media/hornets/Honeybee-800X600.jpgAnd... ...I believe -- uh -- I know for a fact -- they are leaving these girls behind and will be auditioning an entirely new staff of Honeybees, from here in OKC. I'll keep posted.

Uh, I mean, I'll keep everybody posted.

BigRedJed
9/23/2005, 07:35 AM
I believe this thread has one more day in it.

GDC
9/23/2005, 07:39 AM
Congrats OKC, enjoy the thugs, drugs, and brawls (http://www.bofunk.com/video/570/pacers_pistons_brawl.html)

Here's Carmelo telling the kids to be sure and shoot their local drug snitches. (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/sports/3967329/detail.html)


http://images.ibsys.com/2004/1203/3967366_200X150.jpg

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
9/23/2005, 11:03 PM
I believe that an after-work SO suaree is being planned for Jed's birthday next Wednesday. Place TBA.

BigRedJed
10/1/2005, 03:13 PM
I believe that 3 of us just laid down $6000 for seats. :eek:

WTF am I thinking?

BigRedJed
10/3/2005, 03:41 PM
I believe that we will be 20 feet fom the hardwood with an unobstructed view. I also believe that bigredsooner was the goofball quoted in Sunday's paper as being the first person to yell "go Hornets!"

BigRedJed
10/3/2005, 03:42 PM
I believe that Rhino's avatar is currently rocking my face off, especially in this thread.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
10/3/2005, 03:44 PM
I believe that Bevo Stevo is trying to talk trash in PEEMS to me.

I believe I laugh my *** off at them

BigRedJed
10/3/2005, 05:02 PM
I believe Chris Paul was hanging out on the floor when we were picking out seats. I also believe we could have walked right up and talked to him.

C&CDean
10/3/2005, 05:09 PM
I believe that I've never heard of Chris Paul, and if somebody by that name tried to talk to me I'd kick him in the forehead.

Dio
10/3/2005, 07:35 PM
I believe I will pick up some individual game tickets, if they aren't all sold as season tickets first.

BigRedJed
10/12/2005, 11:42 PM
I believe I got a head start on all you suckas tonight when I stumbled into the FedEx Forum and watched the Grizzlies play the Bulls.

Oh, and I also believe the Peabody is pretty kickass.

BigRedJed
10/12/2005, 11:45 PM
And I believe I spent a crapload on new tunes at Tower Music just off Beale Street, next to the Peabody.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
10/13/2005, 01:10 AM
I believe that I am tired as hell, but I'm glad that tomorrow is my Friday.

BigRedJed
12/19/2005, 12:50 PM
I believe this in your face you damned hippy!

http://www.nba.com/media/ChrisPaul374.jpg

BigRedJed
12/19/2005, 06:10 PM
Cut your hair Duncan! If you were wearing goggles and a Bucks uni I would have thought you were Lew Alcindor.

BigRedJed
12/19/2005, 06:13 PM
Lew Alcindor. Damn, I DO roll old school.

BigRedJed
12/19/2005, 06:14 PM
I believe I botched the posting format for this thread. I'm going to log in as one of my trolls and negspek myself.

Viking Kitten
12/19/2005, 06:15 PM
I believe I've heard that can make you go blind.

BigRedJed
12/19/2005, 06:20 PM
I believe that's an old wives tale, or I'd be rockin' a white tipped cane and typinig on a braille keyboard by now.

Viking Kitten
12/19/2005, 06:25 PM
I believe that's okay, Jed. I believe to be able to love others, we must first learn to love ourselves.

yermom
12/19/2005, 06:29 PM
I believe that is the Greatest Love of All

BigRedJed
12/19/2005, 06:42 PM
Man, reading VK's post and yermom's post back-to-back took my from a heightened state of arousal to sad in my pants so fast that I almost blacked out for a minute.

BigRedJed
12/19/2005, 06:43 PM
DANGIT! I mean that I believe I almost passed out. Way to stink up your own thread, BRJ.

Harry Beanbag
12/19/2005, 06:52 PM
Lack of blood flow to the brain?

Viking Kitten
12/19/2005, 08:15 PM
...a heightened state of arousal ... I almost blacked out for a minute.

I believe you need to be careful. I believe that sort of thing is what killed Michael Hutchence.

yermom
12/19/2005, 08:41 PM
Man, reading VK's post and yermom's post back-to-back took my from a heightened state of arousal to sad in my pants so fast that I almost blacked out for a minute.

I believe i wasn't talking about me :O

BigRedJed
12/29/2005, 03:39 AM
I believe I just saw T-Mac break off a season-high 38 and still get punked by my Hornets.

SoonerWood
12/29/2005, 10:00 AM
I believe that women should be placed high upon a pedestal.


So high...that you can look up their dress.

soonerbrat
12/29/2005, 10:11 AM
I believe I am going to the Hornets/Mavericks game on NYE

Stanley1
12/29/2005, 10:20 AM
I believe I am going to the Hornets/Mavericks game on NYE

Go Mavs. :D

ChickSoonerFan
12/29/2005, 10:20 AM
I believe the Mavs are going to get STUNG by the Hornets on NYE and I will be there to see it!

soonerbrat
12/29/2005, 10:21 AM
I believe I will wave at CSF during the game.

Stanley1
12/29/2005, 10:23 AM
I believe the Mavs are going to get STUNG by the Hornets on NYE and I will be there to see it!

Too slow.

soonerbrat
12/29/2005, 10:25 AM
I believe Stanley is on someone's naugty list now.

Stanley1
12/29/2005, 10:28 AM
I believe Stanley is on someone's naugty list now.

You say that like its a bad thing.

ChickSoonerFan
12/29/2005, 10:50 AM
Too slow.

:confused:

who is too slow?

BigRedJed
12/29/2005, 11:30 AM
I believe Stanley is on Jed's negspek list now.
Fixed it.

SoonerWood
12/29/2005, 11:33 AM
I believe in going to church every Sunday, unless there's a game on.

Stanley1
12/29/2005, 11:36 AM
Fixed it.

LOL.....I'll see YOU at the game big fella. :D

BigRedJed
12/29/2005, 12:35 PM
That's right, pal. You'll see me. AND you'll see CP3 pick Jason Terry's and Marquis Daniel's pockets all night, you'll see Desmond Mason throw down some ridiculous, highlight-reel dunks, and you'll see P.J. Brown and David West throw Dirk around like a rag doll from tipoff to final buzzer. You're gonna get a spanking, I believe. ;)

Stanley1
12/29/2005, 12:44 PM
You're gonna get a spanking, I believe. ;)

Oh.....I'm certainly counting on that part.

ChickSoonerFan
12/29/2005, 12:54 PM
That's right, pal. You'll see me. AND you'll see CP3 pick Jason Terry's and Marquis Daniel's pockets all night, you'll see Desmond Mason throw down some ridiculous, highlight-reel dunks, and you'll see P.J. Brown and David West throw Dirk around like a rag doll from tipoff to final buzzer. You're gonna get a spanking, I believe. ;)

EXACTLY!!!! Well put...that is what I was TRYING to say.

GO HORNETS!!!!

soonerbrat
12/29/2005, 02:03 PM
You're gonna get a spanking, I believe. ;)



I believe Stanley would enjoy that.

ChickSoonerFan
12/29/2005, 03:09 PM
I believe Stanley would enjoy that.

Hey Hey Hey now...how would YOU know that?

Stanley1
12/29/2005, 03:12 PM
Play nice girls.

SoonerWood
12/29/2005, 03:12 PM
I believe that we should allow immigrants into this country, provided they can speak our native language...apache.

soonerbrat
12/29/2005, 03:12 PM
Hey Hey Hey now...how would YOU know that?



I beleive that was just a wild guess :D

BigRedJed
1/5/2006, 11:06 AM
I believe that I made the Hornets broadcast multiple times last night. Once I was sharing the screen with Byron Scott. Just me and the coach. And my ginormous beer, brought to me by a referee-striped waitress. Second time I've sat on the floor, this time right behind the Hornets bench, and I have to say, while it's cool for the novelty factor, I'll take my regular seats, thanks.

Oh. I also believe "Superman" got punked.

OKC Sooner
1/5/2006, 11:37 AM
I believe you are wrong. I believe the Roadrunner at Reno and May has the hottest girls and the coldest beer. I believe I read that on their sign.

I am far from being a Monk-type character, but I feel the need to wipe down my entire car and body with towelettes every time I drive by that place. Cooties can JUMP!!!!

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
1/5/2006, 12:10 PM
I believe it is awesome that they moved two games back to OKC from Baton Rouge

OklahomaTrombone
1/5/2006, 08:58 PM
I believe it is awesome that they moved two games back to OKC from Baton Rouge


I believe thats because they are now playing three games in New Orleans

Jimminy Crimson
1/5/2006, 10:42 PM
I believe that there is a small possibility that you Tulsa-ites might get a chance to get one night of major league action in your city. It would be Sacramento on the 13th, most likely at the Mabee Center, if Bon Jovi decides that him and his homies need to rehearse.

Just a possibility at the moment, Lloyd Noble, Sheep Humper Arena, and the Cox are possibilities, too.

YWIA

Jimminy Crimson
1/5/2006, 10:43 PM
I believe thats because they are now playing three games in New Orleans

...and because playing games in BR makes the Hornets look bad. The March games have nothing to do with the two remaining January games.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
1/5/2006, 10:47 PM
I believe I missed a good game by laying on the couch watching the /m\s.

ChickSoonerFan
1/5/2006, 10:48 PM
So do season ticket holders already have tickets to the two games moved to OKC?

Jimminy Crimson
1/5/2006, 11:00 PM
So do season ticket holders already have tickets to the two games moved to OKC?

Negative, although I assume season ticket holders will be given first dibs to the tickets, which should go on sale no later than Monday. Keep an eye out for an email.

Proceeds from these two games will go towards Hoops for Homes to build another 20 homes in Louisiana.

critical_phil
1/19/2006, 11:16 AM
i believe i had a good time at my first hornets game last night. i'd been to a few NBA games before, but only at larger venues and in the cheap seats.


i believe i was impressed with the OKC crowd. it wasn't a sell out, but the crowd was into it throughout the game. when CP3 hit the 3 w/ 37 seconds remaining, it got LOUD.


i believe mrs. critical has some weird crush on the birdman?


i believe i saw a guy sitting near the floor who screwed me out of alot of money a few years back. since his daddy owns half of mustang (and is apparently a big hornets sponsor), i believe it was wise of me not to walk down there and try to take it out of his hide.


i believe i'll send the guys at MidFirst a thank you note for the seats and parking pass. sitting 5 rows up was pretty cool.

BigRedJed
1/19/2006, 03:20 PM
I believe that I'm happy you enjoyed the game. I also believe you must have only attended NBA games in Detroit or Chicago, since those are the only arenas than are appreciably bigger that the Ford Center for hoop. The Ford Center is the 11th largest venue in the league, with seven of the top ten coming in at less than one thousand seats more than the FC.

http://www.hoopscorner.com/links/team_arenas.html (http://www.hoopscorner.com/links/team_arenas.html)

OU4LIFE
1/19/2006, 03:45 PM
i believe i had a good time at my first hornets game last night. i'd been to a few NBA games before, but only at larger venues and in the cheap seats.


i believe i was impressed with the OKC crowd. it wasn't a sell out, but the crowd was into it throughout the game. when CP3 hit the 3 w/ 37 seconds remaining, it got LOUD.


i believe mrs. critical has some weird crush on the birdman?


i believe i saw a guy sitting near the floor who screwed me out of alot of money a few years back. since his daddy owns half of mustang (and is apparently a big hornets sponsor), i believe it was wise of me not to walk down there and try to take it out of his hide.


i believe i'll send the guys at MidFirst a thank you note for the seats and parking pass. sitting 5 rows up was pretty cool.

I believe I was sitting a few rows behind you. I would have come down and said hi, but I had my drunk brother-in-law with me...

;)

critical_phil
1/19/2006, 04:37 PM
i believe by bigger venue i meant size of the arena itself and not seating capacity. maybe i'm all wet here but sitting in section 9000 in inglewood just made the players/court look like they were a mile away.


i believe i would've said hi to 4life if i'd seen him because i had no drunk peoples with me......


i also believe Pau Gasol was not a factor in the game.

Soonrboy
1/19/2006, 04:38 PM
I believe they gave some free tickets to teachers in the OKC school district. I believe that's kinda nice.

Jimminy Crimson
1/19/2006, 05:28 PM
i also believe Pau Gasol was not a factor in the game.

who?

zigzagly :cool:

Jimminy Crimson
1/31/2006, 12:30 AM
I believe in David West!

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20060131/capt.oktr10401310415.bucks_hornets_basketball_oktr 104.jpg

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20060131/capt.oktr10301310413.hornets_bucks_basketball_oktr 103.jpg

Do your thing, Mr. West!

OUstudent4life
1/31/2006, 12:42 AM
I believe Speedy is really short compared to West.

And that was a sweet little bounce pass.

Jimminy Crimson
1/31/2006, 12:44 AM
I believe Speedy is really short compared to West.

A pretty legit 6'9" to a barely 5'11", I'd say your right on in your assessment. :texan:

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
1/31/2006, 12:12 PM
I believe the last shot of that game last night was unfreakingbelievable.

soonerbrat
1/31/2006, 12:19 PM
I believe Jiminy is a tease.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
1/31/2006, 12:23 PM
I believe Jiminy is a tease.I believe you need to bust out wif a story.

soonerbrat
1/31/2006, 01:20 PM
I believe Jiminy almost had an extra ticket for the game last night but then someone else claimed it before I could.

Jimminy Crimson
1/31/2006, 02:44 PM
I believe Jiminy almost had an extra ticket for the game last night but then someone else claimed it before I could.

I tried.

When I win the Powerball on Saturday, I'm going to buy all the front row courtside seats and give them to my soonerfans amigos. Capiche?

ChickSoonerFan
1/31/2006, 02:45 PM
I tried.

When I win the Powerball on Saturday, I'm going to buy all the front row courtside seats and give them to my soonerfans amigos. Capiche?

amigas too? :rolleyes:

Stanley1
1/31/2006, 02:47 PM
amigas too? :rolleyes:

<spanish> no </spanish>

soonerbrat
1/31/2006, 02:49 PM
I tried.

When I win the Powerball on Saturday, I'm going to buy all the front row courtside seats and give them to my soonerfans amigos. Capiche?


I believe that powerball on saturday will only be $15 million cuz i'm winning the $156 million tomorrow :D



and i believe it was sweet of ya to think of me..i DID appreciate that :D

Jimminy Crimson
2/1/2006, 01:12 PM
I believe the Hornets just got a lot taller with the addition of Aaron Williams and Steven Hunter.

...and I believe we only had to give up two 2nd round picks for each, still leaving us with two 1st rounders this year.

Kudos to Jeff Bower & Paul Mott!
GM and President, respectively.

yermom
2/2/2006, 01:09 AM
I believe CP3 went off tonignt

I believe he was a madman with 3 minutes to go

BigRedJed
2/5/2006, 10:34 PM
I believe that Kirk Snyder HURDLED A DUDE on his sick throwdown!!

BigRedJed
2/6/2006, 10:43 AM
I believe some poor Laker dude got a face full of Snyder's junk. I believe it was the top play of the day on ESPN. I believe Kirk then took his family for pancakes at the Belle Isle IHOP.

BigRedJed
2/6/2006, 10:44 AM
I also believe CP3 was the best player in the building Saturday night. In fact, everybody except Kobe probably believed the same thing.

BigRedJed
2/6/2006, 10:47 AM
What are the odds OKC has to pony up the $10 mil if the Hornets don't reach the $40 mil "benchmark" ? That going to be a problem in your opinion?
I believe that OKC taxpayers are actually going to reap a PROFIT off of the Hornets. I believe Clay Bennett, Aubrey McClendon, the rest of the private investors and the City Council look like geniuses on this one.

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 10:56 AM
I believe Chris Paul will be a reserve at the All Star game.

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 10:57 AM
I believe Kobe is saying 'Damn, that kid is good!'

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20060205/capt.oktr10402050407.hornets_lakers_basketball_okt r104.jpg

Mjcpr
2/6/2006, 10:58 AM
I believe that OKC taxpayers are actually going to reap a PROFIT off of the Hornets. I believe Clay Bennett, Aubrey McClendon, the rest of the private investors and the City Council look like geniuses on this one.

That would be nice!

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 10:59 AM
That will be nice!

I believe it will! :D

BigRedJed
2/6/2006, 11:05 AM
If you know how the contract is structured, I believe that you would understand a profit for the investors (which include the aforementioned, plus the State of Oklahoma), is all but guaranteed at this point.

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 11:09 AM
I believe I will probably see Mr. Shinn tonight if I go watch the game at The Varsity.

BigRedJed
2/6/2006, 12:42 PM
I believe the Hornets will run their winning streak up to five tonight.

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 12:55 PM
I believe the Hornets will run their winning streak up to five tonight.

I believe that will put them at 3 games over .500 and further distance themselves from the Fakers.

Partial Qualifier
2/6/2006, 12:58 PM
I believe Chris Paul is the Real Deal. Of course the Lakers game, but that 4th quarter he had against the Bulls, are you freakin' kidding me??

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
2/6/2006, 12:59 PM
I believe the children are our future.

Sorry, wrong thread.

soonerbrat
2/6/2006, 01:12 PM
I believe SBSB got really confused.

I also believe that I'm gonna try to get season tickets for the hornets next fall.

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 01:18 PM
I also believe that I'm gonna try to get season tickets for the hornets next fall.

I believe that's a good idea.

Once they have the OKC in front of their name, it will be damn near impossible.

soonerbrat
2/6/2006, 01:31 PM
I believe I can't afford seats as good as yours, but that's ok.

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 01:59 PM
I believe I can't afford seats as good as yours, but that's ok.

I believe that Boarder and doLEOmite have the best view of the sf/hornets gang.

Stanley1
2/6/2006, 02:03 PM
I believe in good B-defense.

soonerbrat
2/6/2006, 02:08 PM
I believe you meant "Bee-fense"

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 02:10 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/LongJohn81/b.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/LongJohn81/fence.jpg

soonerbrat
2/6/2006, 02:11 PM
I believe that Boarder and doLEOmite have the best view of the sf/hornets gang.


I believe you may be right...however, I also believe that it's more fun in your section.

Stanley1
2/6/2006, 02:12 PM
I believe you meant "Bee-fense"

I believe you may be correct.

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 02:15 PM
I believe you may be right...however, I also believe that it's more fun in your section.

True, but I believe Loud City always gets the free giveaways. :( haha

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 02:17 PM
I believed in this guy back in the day. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/LongJohn81/oldschool.jpg

Nab'R
2/6/2006, 02:18 PM
I bee-leeve it sure looks good to have a legit big man at center. I also bee-leeve it should help PJ Brown by letting him play more of a forward. He has a great 15 foot shot. Give Williams a few games and I bet he will be an awesome addition.


Paul is good. Very good.

OklahomaTrombone
2/6/2006, 02:19 PM
Talked to a Dentist on Saturday that was third row seats.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
2/6/2006, 02:24 PM
I believe I wasn't as much confused as that I was tryiong to be funny. I believe I failed.

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 02:26 PM
I believe I wasn't as much confused as that I was tryiong to be funny. I believe I failed.

Back on topic, por favor.

I believe in Byron Scott, Jeff Bower, and Paul Mott.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
2/6/2006, 02:27 PM
Back on topic, por favor.

I believe in Byron Scott, Jeff Bower, and Paul Mott.I believe you still owe me a ticket then, beyonce.

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 02:31 PM
I believe you still owe me a ticket then, beyonce.

I believe a little blood can get you two tickets starting today at any OBI location. :texan:

Imma try to hit that up tomorrow.

I also believe that CP3 is O-.

ChickSoonerFan
2/6/2006, 02:57 PM
I believe I have the best seat...I can see EVERYTHING! :rolleyes:

I believe I love everything about the games except I can't bring myself to say bee-fence.

I can do the money dance, shake it, and stomp to the left and bring it back slow. I can pay $6.00 for a Bud draw beer and have a blast doing it all....but I can't say bee-fence.

soonerbrat
2/6/2006, 03:04 PM
True, but I believe Loud City always gets the free giveaways. :( haha



I believe one of the honeybees handed me a free t-shirt when I was close to the floor.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
2/6/2006, 04:49 PM
I believe I give blood on Wednesday, so that will work.

1stTimeCaller
2/6/2006, 04:52 PM
I believe that bee-fense is ghey. I believe the team is the Hornets, no?

;)

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 05:47 PM
I believe one of the honeybees handed me a free t-shirt when I was close to the floor.

I meant like clappers and thunder stix and junk. Just saying. The nice thing about my seats is that I've caught a few of CP's personalized wristbands, a Butler armband, and I was so close to getting one of JR's shoes. I've gotten a few tees from the honeybees.

soonerbrat
2/6/2006, 07:07 PM
I believe i have the thunder stix thingies. and I believe you didn't believe.

BigRedJed
2/6/2006, 07:09 PM
I believe HE HURDLED A DUDE!!

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 07:12 PM
I believe HE HURDLED A DUDE!!

I believe that was ESPN and NBA.com's dunk of the night. I'm sure it will make some other lists as well. PJ said it was the best dunk he's seen this year.

I also believe I'm off to hang out a sheet of drywall away from PJ's crib. :cool:

soonerbrat
2/6/2006, 07:12 PM
I believe BRJ already said that. Alot.

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 07:13 PM
I believe BRJ already said that. Alot.

I believe BRJ is strong in his beliefs. :D

soonerbrat
2/6/2006, 07:22 PM
I believe BRJ is strong in his beliefs. :D


I believe you are right :D

I also believe that BRJ is right...he DID hurdle a dude. and it was AWESOME

soonerbrat
2/6/2006, 08:40 PM
I believe the Hornets have a double-digit lead on the road against the Nets at halftime and are shooting 50% right now!

Dio
2/6/2006, 09:48 PM
I believe I'm about to see one of my teams choke away a big lead for the second straight day. :mad:

soonerbrat
2/6/2006, 09:49 PM
I believe you are unfortunately right :(

OklahomaTrombone
2/6/2006, 09:51 PM
I believe the Hornets have a double-digit lead on the road against the Nets at halftime and are shooting 50% right now!


whoops.

soonerbrat
2/6/2006, 10:03 PM
yep. I believe i spoke too soon

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 11:40 PM
I believe the shots didn't fall like they needed in the 2nd half. Too many missed layups (for OKC and NJ).

I believe Seattle won't know what hit them on Wednesday in the Hive. Live. From the 405. :cool:

BigRedJed
2/6/2006, 11:43 PM
I believe they're still a game over .500. And Saturday night Kirk Snyder HURDLED A DUDE!!

Jimminy Crimson
2/6/2006, 11:50 PM
I believe George Shinn is the owner of a new iPod.

soonerbrat
2/6/2006, 11:51 PM
I believe you need to 'splain that one

BigRedJed
2/6/2006, 11:55 PM
I believe Jimminy has been rubbing elbows with the big cheese.

BigRedJed
2/7/2006, 12:03 AM
For whatever reason, I can't play it, but go to http://www.nba.com/video/ , click on Feb. 4: Kirk Snyder takes off on the Lakers, and I believe that you will all be impressed.

soonerbrat
2/7/2006, 12:06 AM
OMG, he HURDLED A DUDE!!!!






;)

soonerbrat
2/7/2006, 12:12 AM
I believe I'm going to sleep now.

I believe I will probably see Kirk Snyder hurdling a dude in my dreams

Jimminy Crimson
2/7/2006, 12:13 AM
I believe Jimminy has been rubbing elbows with the big cheese.

I believe I wish he had a daughter. :D

Jimminy Crimson
2/7/2006, 12:13 AM
I believe I'm going to sleep now.

I believe I will probably see Kirk Snyder hurdling a dude in my dreams

I believe you will wake up and Kirks junk will be in your face. It's that real. :cool:

soonerbrat
2/7/2006, 12:47 AM
I believe I have no witty reply to that.

Czar Soonerov
2/7/2006, 01:08 AM
http://www.nba.com/media/hornets/CHRIS-PAUL-800X600.jpg

BigRedJed
2/8/2006, 11:21 AM
This might have already been posted, but I'll post it here anyway. Forget about entertainment value, great hoop, likeable players, I believe THIS is the reason having the NBA in OKC is a good thing:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/richard_deitsch/02/01/the.rant/index.html


The Rant

With Hornets thriving, NBA does right by Okla. City

There are roughly 300 days to go before Sports Illustrated names its 2006 Sportsman of the Year. I'm not waiting. I'm nominating an entire city: Oklahoma City.

One of the best stories in sports has emerged from one of worst disasters we've ever seen. In the aftermath of the devastation of Hurricane Katrina, the NBA's New Orleans franchise was temporarily placed more than 700 miles away to Oklahoma City, a city not unfamiliar to tragedy with the 1995 bombing of a federal office building. Kansas City, Las Vegas and San Diego were among the other cities interested in the franchise but the NBA opted to send the Hornets to Oklahoma City, which paid for the Hornets' housing and office-space costs and offered the team a guaranteed cash payout if the team's revenues fell short of projections.

These days, the only projection Hornets fans are thinking about is who they'll play in the playoffs. Last year, the team finished with an 18-64 record. If the playoffs started today, the Hornets would be the eighth seed in the Western Conference. The team is 22-22 overall and 13-7 in Oklahoma, including a win over the Kings in January at the University of Oklahoma's Lloyd Noble Center. The Ford Center's upper bowl has been dubbed Loud City. They should call themselves Proud City. The Hornets have played 19 games at the Ford Center and have averaged 18,546 fans --- including 10 sellouts. The in-game atmosphere rivals Midnight Madness. Fans arrive early for games and scream throughout. So much for Oklahoma being a pigskin state.

The NBA is the first major sports league to place a team in Oklahoma City and the league is clearly impressed. They announced yesterday that the Hornets will play 35 games in Oklahoma City and six in New Orleans in 2006-07. The plan is for the team to return fulltime to New Orleans for the 2007-08 season. That's the right thing to do. But Oklahoma City has set itself up as the top choice for relocation if a franchise moves, or if the league expands beyond its current 30 teams.

For years, Oklahoma City has craved a reputation as a first-class, major-league city. Welcome to the club, cowboy.
I could give you links to a dozen other stories in national publications, whose writers' socks have been knocked off by Oklahoma City.

What does this mean? It means when the CEO of a Philly corporation looking to expand, or the site relocation specialist in Sacramento looking for the next boomville is reading his morning paper, he's reading about an Oklahoma City he never knew existed, or even bothered to think about.

THAT'S the benefit Oklahoma City sees from hosting the Hornets here, I do believe.

yermom
2/8/2006, 12:00 PM
i believe that is outdated and we'd at least be a 7th seed now ;)

BigRedJed
2/8/2006, 01:05 PM
From the Philadelphia Enquirer:

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/columnists/david_aldridge/13091102.htm


On the NBA | Oklahoma City should remain Hornets' nest

By David Aldridge

Inquirer Staff Writer

Russ Granik, the NBA's deputy commissioner, recalled the phone call from Oklahoma City mayor Mick Cornett in the days immediately following Hurricane Katrina's making landfall in New Orleans in September.

"We've had tragedy here," Granik recalled Cornett as saying. "We see what's happening in New Orleans. We can help."

And so it came to pass that the Hornets temporarily moved lock, stock and barrel to Oklahoma City, the nation's 45th-largest television market - and a place that knows from tragedy, having gone through the domestic terrorist attack of April 19, 1995, that killed 168 people.

And you know what?

The Hornets should stay there - permanently.

A sports team provides a diversion from reality. In the specific case of New Orleans, it represents a connection to what used to be, providing some semblance of normalcy for a city that has been turned upside down. Surely, the citizens of the city need the team now more than ever.

But what happened in New Orleans trumps standard operating procedure. We are not talking about people who need to take a load off after a hard day's work; we are talking about people without work - and without homes, without schools, and without much hope.

The infrastructure of a city - a tax base, corporate dollars, public transportation, basic emergency services, a middle class with discretionary income - is something New Orleans is currently not capable of providing.

In New Orleans, people have better - and more important - things to do with their time and money than go to games.

Oklahoma City's powerful are trying to do everything not to be viewed as taking advantage of New Orleans.

"Certainly, we're respectful of the series of events that led to the relocation," Cornett said Tuesday, when a sellout crowd of 19,163 filled the Ford Center for Hornets' improbable 93-67 rout of the Sacramento Kings in their regular-season opener.

"But from Oklahoma City's standpoint, this is an opportunity to prove that we're a major-league city. We're excited about it. At the end of this year, the sports world's going to have an opinion. Can Oklahoma City support a major-league franchise? We intend for that answer to be a solid yes."

Support has come from all economic sectors of the city, which is stocked with big companies in the oil and energy businesses as well as such companies as Lopez Foods, one of the country's largest Latino-owned firms. The Hornets have already sold more than 10,000 season tickets in Oklahoma City, putting them in the top 10 league-wide.

"We view it as the ultimate real-time test," said local businessman Clay Bennett, one of the movers and shakers who coalesced the local business community around the Hornets.

"The one great thing about this process was that it didn't require a sales pitch," he said.

The truth of the matter is that it was a tough go for the Hornets in New Orleans before the hurricane. Like Sacramento, Calif.; San Antonio, Texas; and Memphis - and Oklahoma City, for that matter - New Orleans might be too small to support two major-league teams. The more established Saints have four decades of history in New Orleans, and the benefits to a city of having an NFL team, frankly, are greater than those of having an NBA team.

(Along those lines, shouldn't the NFL dip into its stadium building fund and publicly commit to helping build a new football stadium in New Orleans that would assure that the Saints remain there? The league has made untold millions hosting Super Bowls in the Big Easy over the years. It's time to repay that debt.)

No city will support a team with an 18-64 record - the one the Hornets had last season - for long, and Oklahoma City is surely no different. The Hornets are going to continue to be bad for a lot longer than this season. But geographically and financially, it makes sense to leave them in Oklahoma City. Equally important, people in the city are uniquely capable of understanding the pain of loss and shared suffering.

"They were sympathetic because of what they went through," Hornets owner George Shinn said last week. "They understood, and they stepped up. They made it clear to the NBA when they called that [they were not] trying to steal the team. They just want [the Hornets] to have a safe place to land."

And any notion that Oklahoma City isn't a major-league town evaporates the moment you reach the corner of 5th and Robinson.

That's where the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building used to be, before Timothy McVeigh's act of madness reduced much of it to rubble.

Now a wondrous memorial to the dead - and the living - has risen from the ashes. And there is a nearby museum that details every second of that horrible day and many of the seconds that have come and gone since. There also is a serene outdoor mall with a reflecting pool that connects one end of the memorial to the other. There are 168 chairs lined up on one side of the memorial, one for each person killed in the explosion.
And on each wall these words are engraved:

We Come Here To Remember Those Who Were Killed, Those Who Survived, And Those Changed Forever. May All Who Leave Here Know The Impact Of Violence. May This Memorial Offer Comfort, Strength, Peace, Hope And Serenity.

Oh, Oklahoma City is big-league, all right.
I believe he is correct about that.