And Speaking of Indian Casinos...

[Pieces Hit]

Has anyone had any luck on the slots?

I've tried twice now at nickles, dimes, and quarters and left twenty bucks with those fine people.

I thought I would try one more time...

[HoserSooner]

We've got one a half-hour up the road that we go to a few times a year. I've never really liked the slots, but if all of the tables are full then I'll sit down and throw $100 into a dollar machine. If I drive 30 minutes to gamble, I'm damn well gambling!

A few times I've walked out after doubling my money on them, but usually I walk away poorer than when I came in.

[C&CDean]

Has anyone had any luck on the slots?

I've tried twice now at nickles, dimes, and quarters and left twenty bucks with those fine people.

I thought I would try one more time...

$20?? And you're wondering why you lose? Dude, it takes money to make money. And don't play the slots. Anywhere. Indian casinos don't have a monopoly on crappy slots.

[IB4OU2]

I honestly can't stand the second hand smoke in those places and the few times I've played, I've learned, if your'e going to bet on a slot, then bet the max.....I would say I'm ahead in winnings at this point....

[GDC]

My b-i-l hit for $1400 at Cherokee in Tahlequah.

Someone was telling me the Choctaws each get a check for $1800 every six months. THe kids' checks are put in an account until they turn 18, then they get it all.

[Pieces Hit]

All I know is I keep seeing some really nice cars with Cherokee tags.

We took their land but I think we've made amends by now.

GADOCADWI

I am bitter as I'm sure somewhere in my lineage at least one of my ancestors had their land taken by the man during the potato famine or something.

I want to set up a Casino in Ireland.

And how come blacks don't get a casino too?

Next thing you know - detainees on Guantanamo will have one.

Life is so unfair.

[GDC]

All I know is I keep seeing some really nice cars with Cherokee tags.

I am bitter as I'm sure somewhere in my lineage at least one of my ancestors had their land taken by the man during the potato famine.

I want to set up a Casino in Ireland.

My vehicles have Cherokee tags.

[Pieces Hit]

Do you get money from the tribe or am I just totally ignorant of your ways?

I'm thinking you get money.

NTTAWWT...

[ultimatesooner1]

I'm part Cherokee and dont' get any money. My truck doesn't have a Cherokee tag cause I didn't have time to drive down to the quah and get one

[GDC]

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And how come blacks don't get a casino too?



Because they don't have federally recognized sovereign nations within the US.

The only money I've ever gotten for being Cherokee were grants and scholarships for school.

[mikeelikee]

The tribes are making $$$ out the wazoo off their casinos. Oklahoma's 85 casinos leads the nation (congratulations to us!! :rolleyes:) What is happening, right before our eyes, is that the Indians are taking their state back, slowly but surely. Can't really blame them. When the chiefs re-negotiated the compacts with Brad Henry and Scott Meachem, it was a mis-match of gargantuan proportions.

[GDC]

The tribes are making $$$ out the wazoo off their casinos. Oklahoma's 85 casinos leads the nation (congratulations to us!! :rolleyes:) What is happening, right before our eyes, is that the Indians are taking their state back, slowly but surely. Can't really blame them. When the chiefs re-negotiated the compacts with Brad Henry and Scott Meachem, it was a mis-match of gargantuan proportions.

The Cherokees had their original lands taken by the feds because it had gold in it, and some Cherokees lost their Oklahoma allotments because of lakes, gas, and oil. You can bet eventually they'll take this cash cow away, but all you white devils are going to hell anyway, so I'm okay with it.:D

[picasso]

no matter how much you win there, you've already spent more or will give it back in due time.

pity.

[mdklatt]

I thought I would try one more time...

You can't win if you don't play.

[Sooner_Bob]

The only money I've ever gotten for being Cherokee were grants and scholarships for school.


Same here . . . well actually I don't think I've ever gotten any money from them. I did get an Indian Health Service scholarship though. That was well worth it.

[Pieces Hit]

So where's all this money's going?

I bet they make a lot.

I'm like an 1/8th Cherokee and i want my cut.

But I never got a card cuz Dad didn't believe in it.

I still want money though.

[IB4OU2]

I'm about 1/32 Cherokee, can I get on the roll?

[mdklatt]

So where's all this money's going?



If they're pratically giving away car registrations a lot of that money better being going to the state highway fund.

[GDC]

I'm about 1/32 Cherokee, can I get on the roll?

For Cherokee Nation it doesn't matter how much you are, you just need an ancestor on the Dawes Commission rolls. The Keetoowajhs require 1/4 blood quantum and the Eastern band 1/16.

[12]

They've managed to survive 3 BCs now...

Before Christ
Before Columbus
Before Casinos

[soonerbrat]

So where's all this money's going?

I bet they make a lot.

I'm like an 1/8th Cherokee and i want my cut.

But I never got a card cuz Dad didn't believe in it.

I still want money though.


do you have another ancestor on the tribal roll?

my kids are 1/4 Kiowa, but they can't get on the roll because they are only listed as 1/8...their paternal grandmother is full blood but she doesn't have her father listed on her birth certificate, so she is listed as half..my ex as 1/4 and my kids as 1/8...for kiowa, you have to be 1/4 to get any benefits.

so they are 1/64 potawatomi and they are on that tribal roll instead.

[GDC]

So where's all this money's going?


That's what a lot of tribal members are wondering too, at least in the Cherokee Nation.

Sequoyah High School in Tahlequah has a nice new $25 million gym, for one thing.

[soonerbrat]

the potawatomis just built a big ol' cultural center, they've expanded their health services and are giving out bigger scholarships for college and grants for tribal members to buy homes. if i wanted to buy a house in potawatomie county, they'd give me $20K toward it.

[Pieces Hit]

That's what a lot of tribal members are wondering too, at least in the Cherokee Nation.
I actually thought the members were getting royalties, hence all the new cars I'm seeing with said plates.
I don't see these plates on beater cars neither, just new ones.
What gives?

[GDC]

I actually thought the members were getting royalties, hence all the new cars I'm seeing with said plates.
I don't see these plates on beater cars neither, just new ones.
What gives?

No royalties for Cherokees yet. As to the nice cars, some of us went to college, and many of us have jobs.:rolleyes:

[IB4OU2]

For Cherokee Nation it doesn't matter how much you are, you just need an ancestor on the Dawes Commission rolls. The Keetoowajhs require 1/4 blood quantum and the Eastern band 1/16.

My great, great grandfather married a full blood Cherokee over in Fayetteville Arkansas back in 1860 or so, I have records (That I'm very proud of)....

[Pieces Hit]

No royalties for Cherokees yet. As to the nice cars, some of us went to college, and many of us have jobs.

And conversely many haven't and don't- same as us caucasians.

And yet I see no beaters with Indian tags.

Just saying.

[GDC]

And yet I see no beaters with Indian tags.


Come down around Tahlequah and Stilwell, there's plenty of junkers with them.

[Soonrboy]

My great, great grandfather married a full blood Cherokee over in Fayetteville Arkansas back in 1860 or so, I have records (That I'm very proud of)....

all you have to do is trace your lineage via birth certificates to someone who was on the rolls.

Cherokee's are too many. Doubt if we ever see a dime personally, but the benefits to the whole tribe will happen..like the gym at sequoyah high..maybe some new hospitals..or nursing homes. The head starts also teach the little ones in Cherokee to keep the language from dying.

[Pricetag]

And conversely many haven't and don't- same as us caucasians.

And yet I see no beaters with Indian tags.

Just saying.
The tag thing is being taken advantage of, IMO. Check the drivers on those cars. There are a lot of seriously white folks driving around with them.

[IB4OU2]

We do a lot of business with Cherokee Nation Industries in Stillwell and they are a very competent company that support our defense industry and they've been around much longer than any of their casinos.

[GDC]

The tag thing is being taken advantage of, IMO. Check the drivers on those cars. There are a lot of seriously white folks driving around with them.

You guys are missing the point. You can be .00000001% Cherokee and be a member of the Cherokee Nation. So yes, there's a lot of yonegs who have cards.

[Sooner_Bob]

There's a huge casino out near Sacramento . . . Thunder Valley that is rakin' in the dough (or it was when I was out there a couple of years ago). So much so that the 300 or so tribal members were getting like $15K or more per month. I doubt they get that now, but you never know.

A lady in one of our offices out there is a tribal member and confirmed the check business.

$15K/month is unreal.


If and when the Cherokees decide to give us members something we'll probably have to live in one of the 14 counties within the "nation".

[GDC]

There's also some talk within the tribe of establishing a blood quantum requirement. Yonegs that already have cards would be grandfathered in.

[picasso]

the potawatomis just built a big ol' cultural center, they've expanded their health services and are giving out bigger scholarships for college and grants for tribal members to buy homes. if i wanted to buy a house in potawatomie county, they'd give me $20K toward it.
you can get help from them to buy/build a house anywhere.

[soonerbrat]

you can get help from them to buy/build a house anywhere.




really?
i might have to do that this year...i need to buy a house :D

[KC//CRIMSON]

Has anyone had any luck on the slots?

I've tried twice now at nickles, dimes, and quarters and left twenty bucks with those fine people.

I thought I would try one more time...

Never play slots, anywhere. The house has the highest odds in their favor when you play the slots. Save your money and learn how to play "Craps.":cool:

[GDC]

Never play slots, anywhere. The house has the highest odds in their favor when you play the slots. Save your money and learn how to play "Craps.":cool:

Yep, craps and blackjack are your best bets against the house. If you have to play a machine find a 9/5 jacks or better video poker and learn the protocol.

[Sooner_Bob]

There's also some talk within the tribe of establishing a blood quantum requirement. Yonegs that already have cards would be grandfathered in.


If it'll get me some dough them I'm all for it . . . :D

[soonerbrat]

Never play slots, anywhere. The house has the highest odds in their favor when you play the slots. Save your money and learn how to play "Craps.":cool:



except there's no craps tables in indian casinos...

[Pieces Hit]

So why do they call it craps?

Do people say crap when they lose or do they actually crap on the table?

All I know is how to lose money on Powerball.

[soonerbrat]

So why do they call it craps?

Do people say crap when they lose or do they actually crap on the table?

All I know is how to lose money on Powerball.


One of the most well-known games of dice from past and future is Craps. The original name of Craps was 'Hazard' and it was mostly played by the English elite and the high society of the 18th and 19th century. England brought the game into France and the French decided to call it Craps, from the word 'crabs' which means 'pair of ones'.

[KC//CRIMSON]

except there's no craps tables in indian casinos...

Then play Blackjack or go to a REAL casino.

[Jimminy Crimson]

Not a fan of slots, but I've played a couple times at Remington.

I've come out on top every time I've been there.

[walkoffsooner]

In my neck of the woods its Delaware Indians with casinos tight slots.But they lease all machines from someone in Norman.Indians just set back and count money and get a percentage they don't set work on or touch a machine except to get money out.And they are building a new one North of Anadarko right now.

[StoopTroup]

So why do they call it craps?

I found this...


The French took up playing Hazard and it is claimed that they changed the name to Craps, using and corrupting the name given to a losing throw of 2 in the game of Hazard, known as crabs. However there is no documented evidence to support this and the name is almost certainly American in origin.


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dice-play/CrapsHazardHistory.htm