Nothing

[NickelBack]

Shoulda known better

[Scott D]

hmm...well I wouldn't discourage your son from playing well...if he can play adequate without seeming obvious would probably be the best course of action...but golf can be fickle like that without trying.

[bri]

Just tell him to try and not giggle like a little girl while he's kicking the Lt. Col's ***. :D

[usmc-sooner]

So my son, an E-3, was chatting with his Lt. Col the other day. He's been his gopher lately while he's AFI. He's been invited by him off base to play at one of the nice casino courses this saturday. This is the first time they've played though the Col knows my son is a golfer.

The Col told him he shoots in the 90s. If my son doesn't shoot in the 70s, he's broken his hand. So does he just go out and shoot lights out and act humble? That's what I'm thinking. I'm sure the Col would appreciate seeing a good golfer.

My son has played tournament golf since 8th grade so I'm not worried about etiquette or behavior or anything like that. And he knows not to give anyone swing advice, etc.

I loved my time as an E-3 hanging out with O-5's and going golfing with them. :rolleyes:

I really enjoyed the time I spent chatting up Col's. as a LCpl. good times.

Hell the best time I ever had was when a bunch of us PFC's went on a road trip with some the the Generals

:eek:

[usmc-sooner]

and at some point the BS meter breaks

[NickelBack]

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[usmc-sooner]

LOL! Skeptical? Jealous? What does it matter to me if you think I'm full of **** just because you never got the same opportunity.

probably because their is a policy in the military that covers this sort of behavior called fraternization.

It is strictly enforced.

which is why you set off my BS meter. According to you a month a go your son completed the AF boot cam and was going to be an ATC. I guess now he's skipped his MOS school to play golf with Lt. Col's my BS meter not only went off it stopped and started laughing.

[jk the sooner fan]

yep.....apparently the USAF doesnt care so much about the fraternization policy...but if he has the chance to play the LTC, he should routinely whip his ***......gambling is off limits

[colleyvillesooner]

yep.....apparently the USAF doesnt care so much about the fraternization policy...but if he has the chance to play the LTC, he should routinely whip his ***......gambling is off limits

You gonna take it easy on me on the course tomorrow, JK?

[usmc-sooner]

one time in boot camp Bill Clinton invited me to an orgy.

[jk the sooner fan]

here's my game in a nutshell

long drives....some straight, some a lil crooked.....iron shot on any one of the four sides of the green......zero short game, decent putter

i rarely walk to the green without a wedge

i think you'll be ok.....hopefully we wont have a repeat of todays weather.....i'm not playing tomorrow to win anything...just have a good time

[colleyvillesooner]

here's my game in a nutshell

long drives....some straight, some a lil crooked.....iron shot on any one of the four sides of the green......zero short game, decent putter

i rarely walk to the green without a wedge

i think you'll be ok.....hopefully we wont have a repeat of todays weather.....i'm not playing tomorrow to win anything...just have a good time

Yep, it'll be fun...My drives don't go as far as I'd like them to. I'm a big fan of drive it to the 150 marker, 8 iron somewhere near the green, and my chip determines whether I'm going for par or trying to save bogey :D

Should be fun...I got my light bag if you wanna walk...

Headed back to my house now, where my computer is still dead...see yall beyonces tomorrow...

[jk the sooner fan]

so much for the stereotype that kids from rich parents dont enlist in the military....

[usmc-sooner]

here's my game in a nutshell

long drives....some straight, some a lil crooked.....iron shot on any one of the four sides of the green......zero short game, decent putter

i rarely walk to the green without a wedge

i think you'll be ok.....hopefully we wont have a repeat of todays weather.....i'm not playing tomorrow to win anything...just have a good time

hey Chief
how many times do you golf with E-3s?

[jk the sooner fan]

hey Chief
how many times do you golf with E-3s?

when i was an E-6, our commanding general came to fort hood for a visit....the battalion XO invited him to play golf...and invited a WO and myself...sort of as representatives of the office...there was no "chit chat" though...it was about as stiff a round of golf as you can imagine

and once i became a CWO, i never mixed pleasure and business with my enlisted subordinates....i'm not saying it doesnt happen, but its a "no-no"

[jk the sooner fan]

CVS - walking is fine!

[usmc-sooner]

Shoulda known better


you should've known BS gets called quick

but I doubt you quit posting your BS

[jk the sooner fan]

and at some point the BS meter breaks

http://struggle.net/ALDS/bull****_meter.gif

[NickelBack]

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[jk the sooner fan]

dramaaaaaaaa....

[usmc-sooner]

Ok bigshot. $1000 bucks right now or shut your big mouth. I'll give Beano a check tonite, he lives about 5 miles from me. Lets do it. I will supply digital pics of the golfing.

You live close to Beano? Your son? or the the Col that he plays golf with?

[jk the sooner fan]

call me silly but perhaps you'd want to check with Beano to make sure he'd even be interested in that.....based on what i know of him he'd laugh in your face at the suggestion

but then again he's been acting indifferent lately...

[NickelBack]

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[usmc-sooner]

Ok bigshot. $1000 bucks right now or shut your big mouth. I'll give Beano a check tonite, he lives about 5 miles from me. Lets do it. I will supply digital pics of the golfing.


or would you like to out the Col who's broken about every rule of officer and enlisted involvment. Yeah send me his name.

[usmc-sooner]

and the Col's name is................?

[jk the sooner fan]

I live close to Beano. My son is in Mississippi. I will have him take pictures after the round. I'm just picking Beano as a neutral trusted party. I'm not sure why he wouldn't mind holding a check.

Oh, and JK, you're welcome to join in for a grand too. Let me know, I'm going to play pool

i dont gamble

nor do i need to flaunt my check book to recognize bull**** when i see it

what are you going to do, have your son video tape the golf round, send the score cards back to a neutral party for verification?

get a grip.....

[usmc-sooner]

and the Col's name is................?

ttt

hell I will gladly pay $1,000 dollars to any Col that will confirm your story. I will then gladly have him taken into Court Martial because it would be a felony and and an extreme violation of the UCMJ

[Sooner in Tampa]

You two know-it-alls had better quit picking on Nickleback :rolleyes:

I am sorry, but after 20 years in the "gun club" I find it hard to believe that a LtCol is going to go trolling for golfing partners in the "lowest" enlisted ranks...hell everybody in the AF is AT LEAST an E-3.

[usmc-sooner]

and I didn't feel the need to to erase my original post so your BS meter jumped another 3 points


you're a straight up liar

give me the Col's name.
probably like when you claimed you're son's recruiter was as liberal.

[usmc-sooner]

hey NB
you can look up the UCMJ on line

when can I expect my grand

either you broke a big frat story or you're full of it

I think we know what you are

[OUAndy1807]

wow, this thread is awesome!

[usmc-sooner]

did he bet money before he erased his original post?

I'm willing to bet he won't name a Lt. Col.

just like all his other bs

he'll try to bury this thread and start a new copy and paste tommorrow.

[OklahomaTrombone]

This thread will not get buried...

[Beano's Fourth Chin]

Shouldn't this be in the "Sports Book"?

[jk the sooner fan]

apparently you're the bookie, so you decide

[Beano's Fourth Chin]

Any checks should be made out to: Continuously Ascending Southoval Hysterics:

CASH for short.

[NickelBack]

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[jk the sooner fan]

how bout citing the regulation you quoted

[jk the sooner fan]

did beano agree to accept/hold the money?

[Beano's Fourth Chin]

Heck no I didn't. None of you jokers are welcome at my house.

[afs]

my airmen invited me to go play golf with them last weekend. I'm an O-2, they're E-3 and 4s. Perhaps if we're paired up on the Sq. Intermural Team it's cool, otherwise there is no way you'd catch me on the course with them. That's why I have other fellow officer friends that enjoy golf.

[jk the sooner fan]

and afs is just a lowly lieutenant ;)

hey afs, you know the difference between an O-2 and and E-3?

[Norm In Norman]

Oh no, I'M verifying this one. And I say you each send me TWO GRAND a piece. Cashiers checks only. Beano just isn't honest enough.

[NickelBack]

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[afs]

ummm, no. i dont' think i've heard this one.

[NickelBack]

ummm, no. i dont' think i've heard this one.

Here you go:

http://usmilitary.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.e%2Dpublishing.af.mil/pubfiles/af/36/afi36%2D2909/afi36%2D2909.pdf

[BigRedJed]

Oh no, I'M verifying this one. And I say you each send me TWO GRAND a piece. Cashiers checks only. Beano just isn't honest enough.Here's a better idea. Post the money where Norm can download it, and announce it in a thread.

[afs]

"daily or weekly activities could result at a minimum in the perception of an unprofessional relationship"


you can quote AFI 36-290 all day, when it comes down to it, perception is the biggest issue. Any officer, especially an O-5, will avoid the possibility of perception of an unprofessional relationship. especially the commander types which is the O-5 that most E-3s will have contact with.

[afs]

Here you go:

http://usmilitary.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.e%2Dpublishing.af.mil/pubfiles/af/36/afi36%2D2909/afi36%2D2909.pdf
thanks, but I've got this one saved on my computer at work. i was responding to J/K

[SoonerBBall]

IBTL....

[jk the sooner fan]

oh the difference between an O-2 and an E-3 is that the E-3 has been promoted twice :)

[Killerbees]

lol usmc-sooner, I think u are a little off here in understanding how different some branches of the military off, hell even how different some sides of the same service branch are. Fact I have been out drinking with a 2 star admiral, 2 0-6s, several 0-5s and a plethora of 0-4 and belows as an E-4, E-5 and E-6 because they dont give 2 ****s about fraternizing in the navy sub community. We had guys that lived with officers, I have 4 close friends i met in the navy that are officers that I routinely go out with. In fact our Dept Heads and Division Officers were encouraged to take enlisted guys out as a reward. On the surface side of the Navy this is a big no no but is accepted on the sub side. I know several Air Force people that say its even more relaxed in certain Air Force circles.

I have never met a marine that would say that this is acceptable, but thats the difference between the 2. The Army and the Marines are put in very intense situations were peoples lives depend on the chain of command structure whereas the Air Force and the Navy has a couple guys push some buttons or fly some planes while everyone else plays cards or whatever.

[afs]

nice

on the flip side, it's amazing how much more respect I get as an O-2 then i did as a gold bar. not saying that it's a lot, but there is a difference.

[NickelBack]

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[jk the sooner fan]

nice

on the flip side, it's amazing how much more respect I get as an O-2 then i did as a gold bar. not saying that it's a lot, but there is a difference.

oh i can imagine....i went thru my own "butter bar" phase... i was just giving you a hard time, i'm sure you're a fine officer

[afs]

lol usmc-sooner, I think u are a little off here in understanding how different some branches of the military off, hell even how different some sides of the same service branch are. Fact I have been out drinking with a 2 star admiral, 2 0-6s, several 0-5s and a plethora of 0-4 and belows as an E-4, E-5 and E-6 because they dont give 2 ****s about fraternizing in the navy sub community. We had guys that lived with officers, I have 4 close friends i met in the navy that are officers that I routinely go out with. In fact our Dept Heads and Division Officers were encouraged to take enlisted guys out as a reward. On the surface side of the Navy this is a big no no but is accepted on the sub side. I know several Air Force people that say its even more relaxed in certain Air Force circles.

I have never met a marine that would say that this is acceptable, but thats the difference between the 2. The Army and the Marines are put in very intense situations were peoples lives depend on the chain of command structure whereas the Air Force and the Navy has a couple guys push some buttons or fly some planes while everyone else plays cards or whatever.


You'll see this same type of thing with Special Ops units, especially the C-130 varients and their flight crews. However that's the only area i've seen a noticable level of openness between the Os and Es.

[afs]

Ignoring the fact that AFI 36-2909 SPECIFICALLY mentions that a round of golf is ok, if you knew all the details of this situation, you would understand that there is no perception issue at all.

If you would like me to elaborate and can maintain a civil discourse, send me a PM.


while true, the problem arises when not every single person on the golf course or every co-worker of your son understands the situation. There isn't a perception between the E and the O, but unfortunetly they aren't the only parties involved.

[OklahomaTrombone]

Ignoring the fact that AFI 36-2909 SPECIFICALLY mentions that a round of golf is ok, if you knew all the details of this situation, you would understand that there is no perception issue at all.

If you would like me to elaborate and can maintain a civil discourse, send me a PM.

It actually says that a "While an occasional round of golf...between a supervisor and a subordinate could remain professional..."

It never says that is "ok"

Also....

From right before where you c&p...

It is often the frequency of these activities or the absence of any official purpose or organizational benefit which causes them to become, or to be perceived to be, unprofessional.

[NickelBack]

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[Killerbees]

I ll give u the Admirals name if u want, lol i dont think he is in any real danger of getting court martialed,

Vice ADM Konetzni (http://www.thresherbase.org/Konetzni_deputy.htm)

[OUAndy1807]

this thread just keeps getting better.

[Rhino]

This thread is my new best friend.

[NickelBack]

I must have had too many Shiner's tonite. Of course, USMC is right, he caught me; I was just bull****ting ya'll. I'll know better next time than to try and pull the wool over a pair of intelligent eyes like USMC and jk. Those guys are a couple of the sharpest tools in the shed. My son doesn't even play golf or own a set of clubs. Me either. Hell, he's not even in the Air Force. He works at Chuckie Cheese.

[usmc-sooner]

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[usmc-sooner]

I wonder if this LTC is lazy and stupid or lazy and smart or smart and active :D

[jk the sooner fan]

I must have had too many Shiner's tonite. Of course, USMC is right, he caught me; I was just bull****ting ya'll. I'll know better next time than to try and pull the wool over a pair of intelligent eyes like USMC and jk. Those guys are a couple of the sharpest tools in the shed. My son doesn't even play golf or own a set of clubs. Me either. Hell, he's not even in the Air Force. He works at Chuckie Cheese.

ooooooooh, a bull****ter AND condescending at the same time, such lovely traits

[usmc-sooner]

gotta go I'm playing Yahtzee with a three star General this morning, later I'll be golfing with the President. I think I'll end the day by swinging by the barracks and having drinks with the PFC's and LCpl's.

[OU4LIFE]

Heck no I didn't. None of you jokers are welcome at my house.

now was that really neccessary? I just want to get my stranger hook-up on....

[12]

I think I've learned more about the military this morning than in all my years of watching Gomer Pyle.

[OU4LIFE]

oh, and this thread makes me happy.

[crawfish]

Man, Dean leaves and the board goes to pot. Whodathunkit?

[Veritas]

sheesh...time for the old lock 'n bane

[OUAndy1807]

I LOVE THIS THREAD!!!!!!

[IB4OU2]

Somebody talkin' about playing golf with a Full Bird Colonel......... I do it every time I go to L.A.......and I'm a lowly civilian.

[Veritas]

I've got a full bird, Colonel!!!

http://www.kfc.is/grafik/colonel.jpg

[IB4OU2]

I've got a full bird, Colonel!!!

http://www.kfc.is/grafik/colonel.jpg

In a bucket......or a box?

[colleyvillesooner]

This thread got way better after I left....doesn't make sense since Nickel erased all his posts, but still, my new favorite thread...

[KC//CRIMSON]

It was only a matter of time......

[12]

Well, at least he was quoted on most of them so we can follow the drama.

Does the Colonel still serve Chicken-in-a-Bucket? Seriously, those buckets were a huge treat at our house while growing up. It only happened once or twice a year, but man, it was something special.

[OU4LIFE]

AFAIK 12, they still do buckets.

[Veritas]

"Well, it's a well known fact sonny Jim that there's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, called the Pentaverate, that control everything, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually in a secret Colorado mansion known as "The Meadows".

"So who's in this pentaverate?"

"The Queen, the Vatican, the Yetis, the Lockchilds, and Colonel Sanders before he went tits up. oh how I hate the Colonel, with his wee beady eyes and the smug look on his face... Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken, OH!"

"Dad, how can you hate the Colonel?"

"Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes you crave it nightly, SMARTARSE!"

[OU4LIFE]

(AP)

Fast food chain KFC has come in for criticism from customers who say its Mini Fillet advert is misleading.

Five consumers complained to the Advertising Standards Agency (ASA) that the chicken burger used in the TV commercial was larger than in real life.

The company claims the Mini Fillet used was within the "standard range of dimensions", and that its name clearly indicates its size.

It also suggested that the woman filmed eating the sandwich may have had small hands, making the product appear slightly larger than it was.

Nevertheless, the ASA upheld the complaints against KFC and has pulled the ads.

"Even though the product was called a mini chicken fillet burger, we do not think this was sufficient to alert consumers to the fact the product was smaller than appeared in the advertisement," the ASA said.

The controversial ad shows a group of people eating KFC's Mini Fillets at a railway station.

KFC is owned by US fast-food giant, Yum Brands, which also owns Pizza Hut and Taco Bell.

[12]

Also, maybe the litigants had really big televisions.

[IB4OU2]

(AP)

Fast food chain KFC has come in for criticism from customers who say its Mini Fillet advert is misleading.

Five consumers complained to the Advertising Standards Agency (ASA) that the chicken burger used in the TV commercial was larger than in real life.

The company claims the Mini Fillet used was within the "standard range of dimensions", and that its name clearly indicates its size.

It also suggested that the woman filmed eating the sandwich may have had small hands, making the product appear slightly larger than it was.

Nevertheless, the ASA upheld the complaints against KFC and has pulled the ads.

"Even though the product was called a mini chicken fillet burger, we do not think this was sufficient to alert consumers to the fact the product was smaller than appeared in the advertisement," the ASA said.

The controversial ad shows a group of people eating KFC's Mini Fillets at a railway station.

KFC is owned by US fast-food giant, Yum Brands, which also owns Pizza Hut and Taco Bell.

And here's a picture of her bitching about the small chicken burger...........

http://img202.exs.cx/img202/2851/image0032tc.jpg

[Veritas]

Damn you, 4OU2.

Post reported....to the Colonel.

[KC//CRIMSON]

Damn you, 4OU2.

Post reported....to the Colonel.

Cool avatar. My hot blonde wife thought she heard they were making a sequel?

[SoonerBBall]

Cool avatar. My hot blonde wife thought she heard they were making a sequel?
They are, there have just been some complications.

[KC//CRIMSON]

They are, there have just been some complications.

What? Are they having to work their way out of Super Hero debt?

[OU4LIFE]

Cool avatar. My hot blonde wife thought she heard they were making a sequel?

explain this.

[Veritas]

Cool avatar. My hot blonde wife thought she heard they were making a sequel?
Thank you.

Can you shed some light on the relationship between your wife's alleged hair color and the alleged sequel? I'm slow on the uptake. Allegedly.

[KC//CRIMSON]

peems.

[IB4OU2]

Damn you, 4OU2.

Post reported....to the Colonel.

Oops!........Wait let me delete it.......please.

[OUAndy1807]

I don't like the turn that this thread has made.

[GeneralCartmanLee]

I believe him...you guys lay off poor NB

I had a similar situation happen to me when I was an E-3.

I even have a picture…











http://img46.exs.cx/img46/5271/mylastgame3yf.jpg

[soonerscuba]

I love the turn this thread has made.

[critical_phil]

http://llamabutchers.mu.nu/archives/carl%20spackler.jpeg


So I jump ship in Hong Kong and I make my way over to Rome and I get on as a looper on a course over there in the Italian Alps. So, I tell 'em I'm a pro jock and who do you think they give me? The Holy Father himself. Pope JP the deuce. Flowing robes, grace, big pointy hat... striking.

So I'm on the first tee with him, I give him the driver. And he hauls off and whacks one. Big hitter the Pope... long. Into a 10,000 foot crevace right at the base of this glacier. And his Holiness says, "In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Amen." So we finish eighteen and he's gonna stiff me. So I say, "Hey John John, hey! How about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know?" And he says, "Oh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your death bed, you will receive total consciousness."

So I got that going for me, which is nice.

[critical_phil]

why won't this thread just go away ???????????????????????????????

[critical_phil]

please make it go away..................


enough already.............

[OUAndy1807]

FREAKING AWESOME!!!!

[Sooner_Bob]

This is the first time I bothered to read this thing . . .

[BlondeSoonerGirl]

Wishin' you could unread it about now, aren't you?

[Sooner_Bob]

Yep

[Harry Beanbag]

This is the first time I bothered to read this thing . . .

Me too. 5 stars!

[proud gonzo]

let's take a vote--should i bother to read this thing?

[OklahomaTrombone]

I just re-read it.

Five stars.

[Harry Beanbag]

let's take a vote--should i bother to read this thing?

Yes, you won't be sorry.

[critical_phil]

since someone brought it up, i just thought it'd be nice to revisit this thread.

[dolemitesooner]

this thread rocks my face off
http://www.fleshycreatures.com/portfolio/portoliopix/tvcrearures/buffy/FaceripLg.jpg

[1stTimeCaller]

bump

[Sooner in Tampa]

bumpWhy ? Oh Why ? :confused:

[proud gonzo]

Shoulda known better

I'm never gonna dance again
guilty feet have got no rhythm
though it's easy to pretend
I know you're not a fool

Should've known better than to cheat a friend
and waste the chance that I've been given
so I'm never gonna dance again
the way I danced with you

bruce = http://community-2.webtv.net/robmbr/RobsReviewHomePage/media/captureD44.jpg
:confused:

[Harry Beanbag]

I thought he was http://entimg.msn.com/i/mu/r/richardmarx/Marx_KR188377319_150x200.jpg.


Should've known better
Than to fall in love with you
Now love is just a faded memory
Should've known better
Now I'm a prisoner to this pain
And my heart still aches for you

[proud gonzo]

heh...