HillaryFest 2016

[Serenity Now]

I'm not a huge Hillary fan. As far as Secretary of State I thought she did a good job. I liked her in that role much like I liked Condoleeza Rice when she was in there. I thought it played to her strengths. I wish there were another option on that side of the isle.

Can someone give me some rational reasons for the hatred? What I've heard so far is pretty weak.

[Soonerjeepman]

sure you won't agree...but I'll throw it out there...

1st, I don't "hate" her...don't think she's honest, in fact more deceitful than most, for the record BOTH sides (pub/dem) are horrible...

couple of major issues
* pro abortion...like for any reason any time
* anti gun
* acts like she's a "reg little person" money wise but is worth millions upon millions

It just seems that anyone who supports her thinks just because she has a vagina she should be president because now that we've had a "black" president, we now NEED to have a woman president.

Better yet, why are you willing to put her in office?

[Serenity Now]

sure you won't agree...but I'll throw it out there...

1st, I don't "hate" her...don't think she's honest, in fact more deceitful than most, for the record BOTH sides (pub/dem) are horrible...

couple of major issues
* pro abortion...like for any reason any time
* anti gun
* acts like she's a "reg little person" money wise but is worth millions upon millions

It just seems that anyone who supports her thinks just because she has a vagina she should be president because now that we've had a "black" president, we now NEED to have a woman president.

Better yet, why are you willing to put her in office?
I'm mostly pro-choice. I think many of the pro-life people could go a long way to limit abortions by facilitating things like birth control, sex education and things like the morning after pill.

I'm for following the kind of gun regulations that the NRA supported in the 1970s and the 1980s. I support guns but think we should be able to limit who gets them. I guess I agree with her to some extent.

She's no regular "little" person. She's a politician. She is probably the most experienced president that we will have had since GHWB.

She's my least worst case scenario candidate.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

She is a murderer at worst, extremely selfish and incompetent at best.

[Tear Down This Wall]

(1) She's a liar. Too many examples to choose from here. She lies daily. E-mail thing is just the latest lie scandal in her career filled with them.
(2) She's as paranoid as Richard Nixon, if not moreso; hence, all the lying, track covering, the "I didn't know the e-mail thing would be a big deal." Bullsh*t. The paranoid control freak wanted to keep absolute control over all information emanating from her role as Secretary of State.
(3) Per Benghazi, her first inclination with international incidents is to blame America.
(4) She's a hypocrite: women's rights are supposedly first on her list...unless her husband has sexually harassed them. Then, women are trailer trash.
(5) She's become as much as corporate shill as her husband was with their "Clinton Foundation" and her speeches that she's so eager to keep under wraps.
(6) She's fat. If she can't even take care of herself physically....

We'd lose even more ground in the world than we have with Obama.

[Serenity Now]

(1) She's a liar. Too many examples to choose from here. She lies daily. E-mail thing is just the latest lie scandal in her career filled with them.
(2) She's as paranoid as Richard Nixon, if not moreso; hence, all the lying, track covering, the "I didn't know the e-mail thing would be a big deal." Bullsh*t. The paranoid control freak wanted to keep absolute control over all information emanating from her role as Secretary of State.
(3) Per Benghazi, her first inclination with international incidents is to blame America.
(4) She's a hypocrite: women's rights are supposedly first on her list...unless her husband has sexually harassed them. Then, women are trailer trash.
(5) She's become as much as corporate shill as her husband was with their "Clinton Foundation" and her speeches that she's so eager to keep under wraps.
(5) She's fat. If she can't even take care of herself physically....

We'd lose even more ground in the world than we have with Obama.
Her paranoia is well placed.

She's fat? Next thing you're going to tell me because she takes too long to go to the bathroom. And you and yours wonder why reasonable people don't get the popularity of Trump/Cruz.

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2015/12/saying_nice_things_about_hillary_clinton_has_becom e_a_subversive_act.html

[Tear Down This Wall]

Her paranoia is well placed.

She's fat? Next thing you're going to tell me because she takes too long to go to the bathroom. And you and yours wonder why reasonable people don't get the popularity of Trump/Cruz.

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2015/12/saying_nice_things_about_hillary_clinton_has_becom e_a_subversive_act.html

What in the hell are you talking about? I don't have any dog in the fight because, as I've stated before, I'm not registered to vote. I posted several times that we're at the point of idiocracy - and, this election is the hardest proof of it yet.

The Republicans have Trump, who doesn't know what he's saying and Cruz who doesn't know where state and federal laws begin and end as far as the Constitution goes.

The Democrats have Sanders, who is a communist, and Hillary, who is a liar, blames America first, is a hypocrite with women's rights, is paranoid, and is a corporate money whore.

Don't attach any of them to me because they are all repulsive. The people who vote for any of those four get what they deserve. If America were still a place with a majority of sane voters, this race would be between guys like Rubio and O'Malley, but it's not. America is now a place where the extreme, revenge wings of both parties control the nomination processes.

[TAFBSooner]

I thought this thread would be about renaming this forum. I mean, according to Senator Turtle (R-KY), Obama's term is over already.

[hawaii 5-0]

She wipes back to front.


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[Serenity Now]

She wipes back to front.


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Literally, LOL.

She eats Grey Poupon...

[champions77]

Hillary is probably the most corrupt politician in the last 50 plus years. Her Record as a U.S. Senator was unremarkable and her stint as Secretary of State was impressive only if you judge her by her frequent flyer miles. Libya, the Russian reset, The complete withdrawal from Iraq and the Syrian red line were all disasters. Throw in the scandals before, during and after the Clinton Administration and You have more than enough reasons to not vote for her.
Now tell me that honesty and integrity are not important virtues in electing a President?

[TAFBSooner]

. . .
Now tell me that honesty and integrity are not important virtues in electing a President?

Well, then, Bernie Sanders is your only choice.

If, as seems likely, he doesn't get a big win Tuesday, we will be subject to two candidates for president, each of whom are disliked by more than half of the US population. The guy with the Mr. Sunshine avatar is correct - we're phucked.

[hawaii 5-0]

Hillary is probably the most corrupt politician in the last 50 plus years.


I think Dennis Hastert would be right up there. I have little sympathy for sexual abusers of minors.

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[rock on sooner]

"the most corrupt politician in the last 50 plus years"

I'll just offer this...Google "list of political scandals"
You'll find Spiro Agnew, Rod Blagojevich, Tom Delay, the entire
"W" administration about the Iraq War, Ted Stevens, Newt,
Lewis Libby & Karl Rove. Rostenkowski, Traficant, the ENTIRE
Reagan staff over Iran Contra, Jesse Helms....etc. etc.....

I am part of the Silent Generation but just couldn't remain "silent"
about that "corrupt politician" statement...sorry..

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

The only one running who's as shi*ty a candidate as Hilry(Criminillary, or Treasonillary if you prefer) is Bern Marx.

[champions77]

Rock On I'm afraid Mrs. Clinton has to be held to a higher standard. She is, unlike the ones you stated, running for POTUS.

I guess you might offer a different opinion of her after she is indicted in her email scandal. Or you might feel differently if you were one of the parents of the Americans killed in Benghazi that she lied to about the video being the cause of the attacks at Andrews Air Force Base. She claims she didn't tell them that, they say she did. Who do you honestly believe? You obviously have a higher opinion of her that most Americans, as her disapproval ratings are some of the highest ever recorded for a Presidential candidate. I would hope that some of those that have been destroyed by the Clinton machine all through the years come forward with their stories. Then, maybe then you might feel differently about her. But then, maybe not. Sorry.

[rock on sooner]

Okay, Champs...only time I'll answer in this forum...Mrs. Clinton and a higher
standard?! Yup, you bet, it is called "double standard", you know, the one she
has been held to for the last 25 years! And, as to running for POTUS is what
she is held to, ummm, how about the TWO POTUS administrations I listed...
Hiz Honor Reagan and Hiz Holiness W...oh yeah, they were already in office!!
Emails, lessee, Powell and Rice, 'nuf said! Benghazi? 11 hours in front of Trey
Gowdy..nuthin', absolutely nuthin'! (It is gov't spin, saw it when I served..same
spin then as now) Clearly, at least to me, you have no clue as to how ALL gubment
puts spin on bad situations.

No need to apologize, Champs, for all her warts she is imminently better qualified
for POTUS than any clown the Pubs have, Bernie, too...jus' sayin'. Now, I shall be
silent, as in Silent Generation. Boomer!

[champions77]

Wow, have our values changed. I guess your definition of "qualified" and mine are radically different. It's sad when someone that has put herself above the law, on so many occasions, is not penalized for that behavior. It used to matter. It shows you how the main stream media picks and chooses our candidates these days. The know the investigative stories they could do on her would last a lifetime. But they like her leftists policies, so they for the most part giver her a pass.

I will stick with my earlier statement. She is by far the most corrupt politician running for office at this level in recent history. Most everyone knows it, but you.

[olevetonahill]

"the most corrupt politician in the last 50 plus years"

I'll just offer this...Google "list of political scandals"
You'll find Spiro Agnew, Rod Blagojevich, Tom Delay, the entire
"W" administration about the Iraq War, Ted Stevens, Newt,
Lewis Libby & Karl Rove. Rostenkowski, Traficant, the ENTIRE
Reagan staff over Iran Contra, Jesse Helms....etc. etc.....

I am part of the Silent Generation but just couldn't remain "silent"
about that "corrupt politician" statement...sorry..

you're lumping politicians in as a group.

Heres 22 of billiarys scandals

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-are-hillarys-22-biggest-scandals-ever/

This prolly be my Last election to vote in, If that bitch gets in Ima sit back and laugh until i die at all the weak minded idiots that wanted her.
And weep for My country I put the uniform on for!

[Serenity Now]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/how-dennis-hastert-is-the-real-super-predator_b_9680912.html

Longest serving GOP Speaker of the House ever.

[olevetonahill]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/how-dennis-hastert-is-the-real-super-predator_b_9680912.html

Longest serving GOP Speaker of the House ever.

YOU start a thread askin about the animosity towards billiary , then go off on Repubs!
this is why i very seldom venture back here,'

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

...Heres 22 of billiarys scandals

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-are-hillarys-22-biggest-scandals-ever/

This prolly be my Last election to vote in, If that bitch gets in Ima sit back and laugh until i die at all the weak minded idiots that wanted her.
And weep for My country I put the uniform on for!The Left has the country in position for the Transformation that Bear promised. The last thing they want is to be confronted and challenged, hence their considering American Conservatism as a bigger threat than radical Islam and/or Sociialsm/Fascism/Marxism.

[champions77]

Unfortunately you are correct Rush. That's why they continue to employ political correctness when dealing with Islam. Conservatism? Not in the least. You see that everyday on what used to be the bastion of tolerance, the promoters of free thought and expression....College Campuses. Where conservatives are routinely shouted down and abused on campus... if they even make it that far. Many scheduled speakers are "disinvited" after demands from the left that they not be allowed on campus. The left does not want conservatives to express themselves, I guess in fear that their message would resonate with a few. All in all pretty sad. If the lefties on here had any standards, they would decry what they see going on today. I will state that their refusal to repudiate this type of intolerance means they agree with it. They love to label anyone not agreeing with their brand of socialism or secular progressivism as "haters". That gives them an excuse to behave like they do.

Reminds me a lot of he brown shirts of Nazi Germany. How they would exert their power over anyone not bowing to the Third Reich.

[Serenity Now]

http://theintellectualist.co/gallup-poll-who-each-country-considers-the-biggest-threat-to-global-peace/

The difference is the philosophy. The refugee issue is a good example. The paranoia about the far-fetched "if" scenario of a Syrian refugee coming here and acting on behalf of ISIS led to great wailing and knashing of teeth on Fox news and by Trump, Cruz, et al and stirred up significant anti-Muslim commentary. The result of that talk with no real result was that it hurts the status of the US in the mind of people "on the fence". Look at that map. There are plenty of people who don't think we are being part of the solution around the world and part of that opinion is formed by what the talking heads like Trump say. And, they see the result of our involvement around the world that we're not privy to.

[Serenity Now]

you're lumping politicians in as a group.

Heres 22 of billiarys scandals

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-are-hillarys-22-biggest-scandals-ever/

This prolly be my Last election to vote in, If that bitch gets in Ima sit back and laugh until i die at all the weak minded idiots that wanted her.
And weep for My country I put the uniform on for!

I quit reading after Anthony Weiner's wife was tied to the Muslim Brotherhood and the Vince Foster thing. Weak *** shiite. Bachman, Gohmert, etc....

You have to do better than WND.

[champions77]

Only in your mind and your hero's world could Americans be murdered by Radical Islam and then we all get lectured by our President about anti-Muslim activities and intolerance around the US as if such activities are commonplace. If I am an American Muslim, love this country for what it is, am not a follower of Radical Islam, after the atrocities committed by Isis and others around the world, any negative rhetoric expressed in the US or anywhere else.....would be fully expected. Think about it.
You have a very perverted way of showing sympathy for the murdering jihadists, with the excuse of "our involvement around the world", almost to the point of saying we deserved it. Sick.

[Serenity Now]

So, why do the people of Sweeden or almost all of South America or Spain or Germany or Australia or Finland or Thailand think we're a threat to peace?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Unfortunately you are correct Rush. That's why they continue to employ political correctness when dealing with Islam. Conservatism? Not in the least. You see that everyday on what used to be the bastion of tolerance, the promoters of free thought and expression....College Campuses. Where conservatives are routinely shouted down and abused on campus... if they even make it that far. Many scheduled speakers are "disinvited" after demands from the left that they not be allowed on campus. The left does not want conservatives to express themselves, I guess in fear that their message would resonate with a few. All in all pretty sad. If the lefties on here had any standards, they would decry what they see going on today. I will state that their refusal to repudiate this type of intolerance means they agree with it. They love to label anyone not agreeing with their brand of socialism or secular progressivism as "haters". That gives them an excuse to behave like they do.

Reminds me a lot of he brown shirts of Nazi Germany. How they would exert their power over anyone not bowing to the Third Reich.Hard to believe that our board Leftists still believe as they do, even after so many examples of leftist intolerance and their willingness to follow the Alinsky formula.

[champions77]

So, why do the people of Sweeden or almost all of South America or Spain or Germany or Australia or Finland or Thailand think we're a threat to peace?

Maybe because we can no longer be relied on to stop tyranny, despots and dictators like we once could. Do you think for a minute any peaceful country feels safer today than when BHO took office? Or do they see a weak leader who can no longer be relied on? This naïve President of our really believed that he could sash shay around the world apologizing to everyone for perceived misdeeds and then everyone, most importantly our enemies, would forgive us and then be kind in return.
Look no further than GITMO where upwards to 30% of enemy combatants have returned to the battlefield plotting and fighting to kill Americans till their last breath. I believe that BHO has blood on his hands for this stupidity. Did the US let German or Japanese prisoners free before the War's end? Hell no, back then we hand some common sense.

[hawaii 5-0]

Hastert, when he was boy's wrestling coach, had a reclining chair sat up right outside the shower room so he could get his jollys watching them shower. Several of the boys were sexually abused for years.

But he coached a State Champ team. Why would anyone complain ??

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[champions77]

Hastert is a POS, and is no longer in office and is certainly not running for POTUS. Don't see any conservatives here making excuses for him, so why is so much time spent on him? The GOP has always done a better job culling out the trash than the Dems have.

Amazing how you Dems all of a sudden have moral standards when it comes to a Republican behaving badly. When Dems do the same or worse, it's a different standard.
The Democratic Party has done everything possible to lower the standards of elected officials, as evidenced by someone as morally bankrupted as Hillary Clinton leading the Democratic Party in her quest for the nomination. Can't count the number of times folks on your side have said "I'm not voting for a preacher, I'm voting for President".

Maybe we need a few more "preachers" running for office. Maybe then they wouldn't stand up there and lie through their teeth to get elected and get crappy legislation passed?

[Soonerjeepman]

Amazing how you Dems all of a sudden have moral standards when it comes to a Republican behaving badly. When Dems do the same or worse, it's a different standard.


I take issue with this statement....

It's ALWAYS been that way! lol