View Full Version : Official Game Thread: OU versus Clemson (Orange Bowl)
ouflak
12/31/2015, 03:43 PM
Semifinals!
Rogue
12/31/2015, 03:49 PM
In!
Rogue
12/31/2015, 04:00 PM
Charles Walker is out. (DT)
BetterSoonerThanLater
12/31/2015, 04:02 PM
Awful lot of orange in that stadium
Jacie
12/31/2015, 04:03 PM
I want this one . . . bad.
But win or lose today, the 2015 Sooners have made me proud. No regrets.
JLMSOONER
12/31/2015, 04:06 PM
Let's get it on!
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 04:07 PM
Clemson sent 3 players home for team infractions. Clemson stormed OUr bus and trash talked..Clemson got in Bakers face in Pregame...Time to take the trash out. Lets hang half a hundred on em.. BOOMER MFn SOONER!!
Rogue
12/31/2015, 04:12 PM
Crappy way to start right there
Perine got us out of a hole.
Rogue
12/31/2015, 04:13 PM
Great run blocking!
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 04:17 PM
WOOT!!!
olevetonahill
12/31/2015, 04:20 PM
Hey Tony. We Lost the toss, Lost 6 yards on 1st play , Gained the Lead on 1st possession LOL
Rogue
12/31/2015, 04:23 PM
Zac was wide open, Watson overthrew him
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 04:26 PM
6 n out will take it
Baker holds on too long again.
Followed by a 24 yard punt. Clemson ball at the OU 28.
Almost a pick. Fourth down & 9.
Lucky to get out of that with a FG.
JLMSOONER
12/31/2015, 04:38 PM
D standing tough. Watson is shifty.
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 04:39 PM
3<0>7
DrZaius
12/31/2015, 04:39 PM
Great stop!
BetterSoonerThanLater
12/31/2015, 04:42 PM
Baker is going to redeem himself here
JLMSOONER
12/31/2015, 04:45 PM
He needs to slide after the first.
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 04:49 PM
Penalty cost us points damn!
BetterSoonerThanLater
12/31/2015, 04:50 PM
Stupid call
JLEW1818
12/31/2015, 04:50 PM
15 yard for clapping? Wow
OklaPony
12/31/2015, 04:51 PM
Did he really just get UC for clapping?
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 04:51 PM
3 n out will be nice after this punt...
DrZaius
12/31/2015, 04:52 PM
Totally blew that drive....wtf
JLMSOONER
12/31/2015, 04:52 PM
He clapped too loud!
OklaPony
12/31/2015, 04:52 PM
Yet the refs missed at least one facemask.
Thomas caught it at the 4.
OklaPony
12/31/2015, 04:55 PM
Is anybody keeping track of commercial minutes vs. game minutes?
So much for pinning em deep.
JLMSOONER
12/31/2015, 04:56 PM
Hold on thomas
tooslow
12/31/2015, 04:57 PM
I'm guessing no QB spy?
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 05:00 PM
SOB!
Mookie91
12/31/2015, 05:00 PM
And cue the OU collapse
JLEW1818
12/31/2015, 05:00 PM
Pathetic special teams
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 05:02 PM
Need Points this drive!
tooslow
12/31/2015, 05:02 PM
Nope, no QB spy. They've been getting large chunks of yards on the same QB run play. Then again, I'd keep running it until it no longer worked.
guido911
12/31/2015, 05:03 PM
I just knew that a fake was coming. Just knew it...
Indy Sooner
12/31/2015, 05:04 PM
Does Bob have something up his sleeve for Dabo? Don't like the way Clemson is again dictating things.
Indy Sooner
12/31/2015, 05:05 PM
Quit running that stupid play. Unless they're going to run something different off that look.
guido911
12/31/2015, 05:05 PM
F this east-west crap. Go N-S...
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 05:10 PM
Need points not punts
We need to cool down. We're letting Clemson get in our heads.
SoCalBigRed
12/31/2015, 05:11 PM
Cant see the damn game, because some jackass decided ESPN was a good idea for the first game. Screw those of us without cable.
Can't find a good stream either.
OklaPony
12/31/2015, 05:11 PM
These refs are the worst.
Mookie91
12/31/2015, 05:11 PM
Why does this seem like deja vu. Poor special teams, stupid penalties and a QB running wild.
SoonernAR
12/31/2015, 05:13 PM
Gotta stop that QB running up the middle crap.
OklaPony
12/31/2015, 05:13 PM
Cant see the damn game, because some jackass decided ESPN was a good idea for the first game. Screw those of us without cable.
Can't find a good stream either.
Watchespn.com?
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:14 PM
How many times is their DE gonna lineup offsides before they throw a flag?
SoCalBigRed
12/31/2015, 05:14 PM
Nope. watchespn requires a cable tv plan.
I just have internet.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:15 PM
Slipping away they better get they're crap together quick
JLMSOONER
12/31/2015, 05:15 PM
Dirty Sanchez looking good in run coverage too.
SoCalBigRed
12/31/2015, 05:16 PM
Though, it looks like OU is starting to play like a Bob Stoops Bowl team.
Maybe I should just tune back out.
Indy Sooner
12/31/2015, 05:16 PM
The longtime problem of not being able to stop a skilled mobile QB and a return to not being able to tackle in general. How disappointing...
JLEW1818
12/31/2015, 05:16 PM
A month to prepare Bob. A ****ing month.
You look surprised that their QB can run.
I'm so ****ing sick of this ****
Jordan Evans hurt. Defense is getting gashed now.
guido911
12/31/2015, 05:17 PM
This is the Texas game all over again. Run the damned ball...
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:17 PM
Wasn't hard enough to play Clemson but the Refs also
SoCalBigRed
12/31/2015, 05:18 PM
Guess I'll go take a nap.
Later.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:18 PM
This is the Texas game all over again. Run the damned ball...
Their trying but can't
JLMSOONER
12/31/2015, 05:19 PM
Did Watson not put the ball down?
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:19 PM
Good stop need to get the offense going now
winout
12/31/2015, 05:20 PM
Nice D to hold to potential FG. C'mon posters.... don't you remember the Tenn game? Too early to start ragging.
JLEW1818
12/31/2015, 05:21 PM
Score a ****ing touchdown
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 05:21 PM
Gotta get 7 on this drive.
SoonernAR
12/31/2015, 05:21 PM
Time to line up and play smash mouth football.
JLMSOONER
12/31/2015, 05:22 PM
Nice D to hold to potential FG. C'mon posters.... don't you remember the Tenn game? Too early to start ragging.
I'm in. Only down 6. We gotta stop their QB. He's going to run us to death and then pop a pass over the D.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:23 PM
Defense is going to get gassed if the Offense doesn't get going
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:24 PM
These refs suck
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:25 PM
He didn't even have the facemask
Finally got a flag on them.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:26 PM
Makeup call
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:27 PM
Their DB's sure get away with a lot of pushing
guido911
12/31/2015, 05:28 PM
These refs suck
^^^This. Awful calls going both ways so far.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:30 PM
That DE is offsides every play
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:31 PM
Wide open in the middle
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:33 PM
Am I the only one who see's the DE lining up offsides?
winout
12/31/2015, 05:33 PM
They're good. A solid team. Like that they are having to go to the trick plays but we have our hands full today. Gotta stop the penalties, if we do that I think we win.
winout
12/31/2015, 05:34 PM
Baker will throw that higher next time.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:34 PM
Pick 6 time
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:36 PM
Good grief adjust for that play
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:37 PM
Damn it put a LB over there
Clemson moving the ball at will now.
winout
12/31/2015, 05:37 PM
C'mon D. O gave you a rest. Step up here.
JLMSOONER
12/31/2015, 05:39 PM
Why do we not even move on FG attempt?
Mookie91
12/31/2015, 05:40 PM
Gotta get 3 before the half
winout
12/31/2015, 05:40 PM
Why do we not even move on FG attempt?
Fake prevention.
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 05:40 PM
Screw 3 we need 7 before half
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:40 PM
Why do we not even move on FG attempt?
Been saying that all year
Just heard on the radio, Jordan Evans done for the game.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:42 PM
Hurry up
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:44 PM
screen it
winout
12/31/2015, 05:44 PM
Must. have. TD.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:44 PM
TD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
winout
12/31/2015, 05:45 PM
screen it
High to Andrews.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:45 PM
Need a pick 6 now
JLMSOONER
12/31/2015, 05:45 PM
Gotta get 3 before the half
How bout 7?
Great cutback by Andrews on the catch.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:50 PM
Pick 6 time!!!
Mookie91
12/31/2015, 05:50 PM
I'm so sick of Sanchez and his swagger. Can they fire Mike Stoops at half
tooslow
12/31/2015, 05:50 PM
WTH??!!! So Venables has a spy on Baker, but Mike hasn't put one on Watson?! Or if he has, he needs to draw up a different way to spy Watson during the halftime adjustments. This is ridiculous.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:50 PM
Play ****ing contain on his ***
winout
12/31/2015, 05:51 PM
If we can just stop Watson, we win.
winout
12/31/2015, 05:52 PM
WTH??!!! So Venables has a spy on Baker, but Mike hasn't put one on Watson?! Or if he has, he needs to draw up a different way to spy Watson during the halftime adjustments. This is ridiculous.
Yeah, need to be able to get pressure with only 4.
Right now, that's a big if.
winout
12/31/2015, 05:53 PM
Anyone going to call a pick?
tooslow
12/31/2015, 05:54 PM
Hell yeah!!!!!
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 05:56 PM
Play contain and make him beat you throwing it
BoulderSooner79
12/31/2015, 05:58 PM
Great game, both teams putting it out there! Bummed about losing Evans.
Mookie91
12/31/2015, 05:58 PM
Overall very lucky to be up. I really think they need a stop to start the 2nd half.
winout
12/31/2015, 05:59 PM
Play contain and make him beat you throwing it
We have a winner.
Gotta get tighter coverage as well. but yes, he doesn't have a pro arm that is for sure.
guido911
12/31/2015, 06:00 PM
That Flowers UC penalty killed a great drive.
Okie35
12/31/2015, 06:01 PM
It is lucky we are up... I was finally waiting for a turnover... Watson is their best running back obviously
Okie35
12/31/2015, 06:02 PM
Play contain and make him beat you throwing it
Wayyyyyy easier said than done... It was easier to do when the field was shorter...
BoulderSooner79
12/31/2015, 06:03 PM
That Flowers UC penalty killed a great drive.
That was a ticky-tack call. But we got that PI call that was way out of bounds on the first drive. The only flag I really had problems with is that facemask on Baxter. I've seen RBs put a stiff arm into defenders mask a million times with no flag as long as they don't grab the mask and pull.
winout
12/31/2015, 06:03 PM
Led both quarters...good sign.
Pernine 10 for 47 yards. Shepard 3 for 69 yards. Good numbers. We need 2-3 TDs to win this. Another turnover would help as well.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:04 PM
That and their DE lining up offsides almost every play
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 06:05 PM
Need to stop them on their first possession of 2nd half. That will be HUGE!
ObiKaTony
12/31/2015, 06:05 PM
This is perine time, get a stop on this first drive...
BoulderSooner79
12/31/2015, 06:06 PM
Led both quarters...good sign.
Pernine 10 for 47 yards. Shepard 3 for 69 yards. Good numbers. We need 2-3 TDs to win this. Another turnover would help as well.
Agreed. We found something on that last drive passing it to Perine in the flat. Get him out there against smaller guys and keep running it until they stop it.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:06 PM
That signature Pick 6 would be nice to start the half
winout
12/31/2015, 06:07 PM
Mark May: " team who controls the line of scrimmage and wins the turnover battle will win this game. " Seriously, that's your comment?
rock on sooner
12/31/2015, 06:09 PM
Whaddaya expect? It's Markie May!
BoulderSooner79
12/31/2015, 06:10 PM
Mark May: " team who controls the line of scrimmage and wins the turnover battle will win this game. " Seriously, that's your comment?
Can I get paid for that too?
Okie35
12/31/2015, 06:10 PM
Mark May: " team who controls the line of scrimmage and wins the turnover battle will win this game. " Seriously, that's your comment?
Hahahaha of course it's the same rehashed thing that the in game commentators said
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 06:10 PM
Why are you quoting Mark May..HE has never nor will he be ever any type of respectable reporter
Okie35
12/31/2015, 06:10 PM
That and their DE lining up offsides almost every play
I thought I was the only one that noticed
OklaPony
12/31/2015, 06:10 PM
Mark May: " team who controls the line of scrimmage and wins the turnover battle will win this game. " Seriously, that's your comment?
A real genius, that Mark May.
winout
12/31/2015, 06:10 PM
Can I get paid for that too?
You have to have played football in the Big X or ND, sorry!
winout
12/31/2015, 06:13 PM
Mayfield, 17-23, 226 yards.
I think there was a mixup on the next to last drive on the throw to Andrews. Shepards cover guy broke up the pass. Not sure who was in the wrong place but that was a TD if they both weren't in the area.
BoulderSooner79
12/31/2015, 06:16 PM
Mayfield, 17-23, 226 yards.
I think there was a mixup on the next to last drive on the throw to Andrews. Shepards cover guy broke up the pass. Not sure who was in the wrong place but that was a TD if they both weren't in the area.
I noticed that too - couldn't have been by design. We're lucky it didn't result in a pick.
Jacie
12/31/2015, 06:16 PM
Our rushing stats are terrible, 7-1 passing yards to rushing. Hope OU can get some yards on the ground and TOP, rest the D.
jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
12/31/2015, 06:17 PM
That was a ticky-tack call. But we got that PI call that was way out of bounds on the first drive. The only flag I really had problems with is that facemask on Baxter. I've seen RBs put a stiff arm into defenders mask a million times with no flag as long as they don't grab the mask and pull.
I said this exact same thing to my wife. I've watched 1000s of football games and that is the first facemask call i've ever seen on the offensive player.
Okie35
12/31/2015, 06:17 PM
I expect a lot more screens from Clemson next half especially the opening drive
PhiDeltBeers
12/31/2015, 06:17 PM
I've yelled about that DE lining up in the neutral zone. No call on it.
jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
12/31/2015, 06:18 PM
I noticed that too - couldn't have been by design. We're lucky it didn't result in a pick.
Cover 3, sheperd saw the void and changed his route. Andrews didn't change his.
Okie35
12/31/2015, 06:18 PM
I said this exact same thing to my wife. I've watched 1000s of football games and that is the first facemask call i've ever seen on the offensive player.
Probably because of the grab... I've seen it called before
BoulderSooner79
12/31/2015, 06:18 PM
Our rushing stats are terrible, 7-1 passing yards to rushing. Hope OU can get some yards on the ground and TOP, rest the D.
Short pass is as good as run. Also, it's easy to run in the 2nd half when the D has more problems getting off blocks.
PhiDeltBeers
12/31/2015, 06:19 PM
There was like 50 yards of sacks though.
jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
12/31/2015, 06:19 PM
I'm so sick of Sanchez and his swagger. Can they fire Mike Stoops at half
Its like your anger fuels him. We need more hate young man.
BoulderSooner79
12/31/2015, 06:19 PM
Probably because of the grab... I've seen it called before
I've seen it called before too, but i just didn't see a grab.
Jacie
12/31/2015, 06:19 PM
27 yards to be exact.
achiro
12/31/2015, 06:20 PM
Seriously, how in the hell are you first and goal at the three and Perine never touches the ball?
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:22 PM
Come on Defense
JLEW1818
12/31/2015, 06:24 PM
Where was the gameplan on D? Seriously? It looks like the Texas game. Just terrible
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:24 PM
Did we make any adjustments at the half?
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:26 PM
Clemson just made the D their Bicth
JLEW1818
12/31/2015, 06:27 PM
I mean seriously.
Let's just go find a 5'10" black kid on the street and let him run QB draws and hand it off.
How ****ing unprepared can you be Stoops bro's?
tooslow
12/31/2015, 06:27 PM
Did we make any adjustments at the half?
If you mean did we regress at the half, then yes, we made adjustments.
winout
12/31/2015, 06:27 PM
O is going to have to win this one I afraid.
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 06:27 PM
D looked bad on that drive! Sad just Sad
jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
12/31/2015, 06:28 PM
From a defensive perspective, there are 2 things that need to happen
1. Jordan Thomas needs to man up and make a tackle on the edge. Getting pancaked out of bounds on every sweep is just embarrassing.
2. Frank Shannon needs to calm down and make a play.
Every play of that drive was either at Shannon or Thomas.
winout
12/31/2015, 06:32 PM
Mayfield keeps that he's still running. Not good for Perine.
guido911
12/31/2015, 06:32 PM
And Perine's hurt.
It looks very bad...
jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
12/31/2015, 06:32 PM
ugh, you beat venables D by throwing over the middle. yes logic says run it but holy crap, we need points.
BetterSoonerThanLater
12/31/2015, 06:32 PM
Game over. Whooped by Clemson two years in a row.
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 06:33 PM
Great Perine Hurt!
tooslow
12/31/2015, 06:33 PM
This game feels like it's over. Of course, I said that during the Tennessee game also. Even the players on the sideline appear down, unlike the movement on the Clemson sideline.
Okie35
12/31/2015, 06:34 PM
We are done ...
BoulderSooner79
12/31/2015, 06:34 PM
Put a fork in us, but great year team.
Mookie91
12/31/2015, 06:34 PM
Don't know who called the audible on the blitz but just awful
winout
12/31/2015, 06:34 PM
This game feels like it's over. Of course, I said that during the Tennessee game also. Even the players on the sideline appear down, unlike the movement on the Clemson sideline.
Well, they're better than Tenn. but we're not down by 17. Hang in there, we have to survive this 3rd quarter.
Going backwards. OU's in big trouble.
kenth68
12/31/2015, 06:35 PM
****
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:35 PM
Good grief one team made halftime adjustments
guido911
12/31/2015, 06:35 PM
Being outplayed badly right now...
JLMSOONER
12/31/2015, 06:35 PM
The boys will play to the end. I'm not giving up on em'.
jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
12/31/2015, 06:36 PM
heh, looked up the rule for facemask. Grasping the facemask is not a foul - it is grasping and PULLING. It is impossible to get a facemask penalty if you grab the facemask and PUSH.
JLEW1818
12/31/2015, 06:36 PM
I ****ing hate Dabo
guido911
12/31/2015, 06:36 PM
Someone needs to make a big play. And that someone is Striker.
Mookie91
12/31/2015, 06:38 PM
Put a fork in us, but great year team.
It really has been. After the Tennessee game and then the Texas debacle it has been good. I'm going to take flak for this but I'm not sold on "Shake n Bake". I wish players played hard and left all the other nonsense out of the game.
soonercastor
12/31/2015, 06:38 PM
What was the reason for Brooks not making the trip again?
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:39 PM
Now they can't ****ing tackle?
kenth68
12/31/2015, 06:39 PM
man... looks like they gave up when they came out
Defense really getting gashed now.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:40 PM
Don't ****ing knock it out of bounds DAMN IT
BoulderSooner79
12/31/2015, 06:40 PM
I predicted our 2 FR OTs would cost us a game down the stretch, but I thought it would happen in conference. We just can't move their D-line enough to run the ball and it wouldn't be any easier against Bama or MSU. The flip side is that we may have a great O-line the next 2 years.
Great year. Just want to see our guys fight to the end now.
BoulderSooner79
12/31/2015, 06:41 PM
man... looks like they gave up when they came out
No.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:42 PM
Play contain and make him throw it for pete's sake
winout
12/31/2015, 06:43 PM
Guys, this game is far from over. We don't get every game over by the end of the 3rd.
soonercastor
12/31/2015, 06:44 PM
When we've forced them to throw we've been great.
Is Alex Ross going to get some carries in this game?
Okie35
12/31/2015, 06:44 PM
What's funny is we should be out of this game... I think we will be okay honestly
Okie35
12/31/2015, 06:45 PM
When we've forced them to throw we've been great.
Is Alex Ross going to get some carries in this game?
He needs to or Flowers
Okie35
12/31/2015, 06:46 PM
It's Mixon damn it ...
DrZaius
12/31/2015, 06:46 PM
Whelp...we are officially out of running backs
JLMSOONER
12/31/2015, 06:46 PM
Looks like flowers or Ross will get in now. Petrine didn't look too confident walking the sideline.
This doesn't sound good at all.
winout
12/31/2015, 06:48 PM
Brooks is out due to grades. Is Ross next?
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:48 PM
Damn we are officially one dimensional now
Mookie91
12/31/2015, 06:48 PM
No RB game over.
Still a heck of a season for where it started.
Really wish OU would take the 2016 offseason to learn how to defend running QBs
soonercastor
12/31/2015, 06:48 PM
I'll ask again. Why did Brooks not make the trip?
JLMSOONER
12/31/2015, 06:48 PM
Mixing done
Perine is one tough sunuva gun.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:49 PM
Tough SOB
JLMSOONER
12/31/2015, 06:49 PM
Mixon
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:49 PM
How's that not PI
Bob, you're not gonna get a PI call from this crew of refs.
winout
12/31/2015, 06:50 PM
go to shep when you need one.
kenth68
12/31/2015, 06:51 PM
just go forward.. hell
Mookie91
12/31/2015, 06:51 PM
C'mon Baker Manziel
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:52 PM
Damn gimmick play.....Really
winout
12/31/2015, 06:52 PM
Ya gotta throw on that short yardage, we don't have the horses up front.
Clemson player taunting the OU bench, not a yellow flag in sight.
Mookie91
12/31/2015, 06:53 PM
Damn gimmick play.....Really
That was Orlando getting pushed back. Could be real good someday but right now he's a big pansy with an attitude
winout
12/31/2015, 06:53 PM
Should have taken the FG.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:53 PM
Have to make that tackle
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:54 PM
Of course they throw a flag these refs suck ***
winout
12/31/2015, 06:56 PM
Should have taken the FG and made then drive the length of the field.
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:56 PM
That's Ballgame
Mookie91
12/31/2015, 06:56 PM
nail meet coffin.
Happy New Year folks if you would have told me post-Tennessee OU would be in the playoff I'd have said you were high. Positive year
BigDub
12/31/2015, 06:56 PM
Oh well we tried. I guess next year we will have a defense that can stop the run?
PhiDeltBeers
12/31/2015, 06:57 PM
Hate to be the Debbie downer, but that's the nail in the coffin. We can't stop them.
SCSoonerfan
12/31/2015, 06:57 PM
Game over...See you next year!
winout
12/31/2015, 06:57 PM
Bob, you're not going to win this game run first.
JLEW1818
12/31/2015, 06:57 PM
Nothing new.
A Bob Stoops D laying an egg in a game like this.
This isn't an Alabama Sugar Bowl exhibition game.
****ing suckage Bob.
Hate to be the Debbie downer, but that's the nail in the coffin. We can't stop them.
And can't move the ball.
winout
12/31/2015, 06:59 PM
Ok I'll write it:
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
soonerfan69
12/31/2015, 06:59 PM
Can't get a fair call to save their lives
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