Good bye Lindsey

[okie52]

Lindsey Graham to CNN: 'I Regret Not Being a Better Candidate'

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If only people woud've heard his message....

[Ton Loc]

If only people woud've heard his message....

If only he wasn't a crazy person who looked like a TV evangelist.

[Serenity Now]

Sadly, he was the candidate that actually had the most reasonable ACTUAL plank.

[FaninAma]

Sadly, he was the candidate that actually had the most reasonable ACTUAL plank.

Do tell! Let me run out to the lobby and buy some popcorn before you begin describing this reasonable ACTUAL plank. This is going to be good.

[Serenity Now]

Do tell! Let me run out to the lobby and buy some popcorn before you begin describing this reasonable ACTUAL plank. This is going to be good.

Maybe "plank" is a poor choice of words. Let's just say he supported positions that could gain support from both sides of the isle. Here are some examples. Calling on the GOP to quit tilting at the gay marriage windmill. Graham did no put all Muslims in one box and apologized to them on behalf of the rhetoric from Trump. He thought Trump's immigration plans were nonsensical and gibberish. He actually concurred with scientists that climate change is happening but didn't go as far as to accept cap/trade as an option. He thought that keeping guns from criminals and mentally ill people was reasonable - hell, that stance is one of a liberal these days.

[champions77]

Maybe "plank" is a poor choice of words. Let's just say he supported positions that could gain support from both sides of the isle. Here are some examples. Calling on the GOP to quit tilting at the gay marriage windmill. Graham did no put all Muslims in one box and apologized to them on behalf of the rhetoric from Trump. He thought Trump's immigration plans were nonsensical and gibberish. He actually concurred with scientists that climate change is happening but didn't go as far as to accept cap/trade as an option. He thought that keeping guns from criminals and mentally ill people was reasonable - hell, that stance is one of a liberal these days.
Graham was a "Poster Boy" for Rhinos in DC. He has morphed so much into a moderate, that he is the reason that Trump resonates so well with so many. The GOP will never be the party this nation needs with Lindsey Grahams representing the GOP. Good riddance.

[SoonerorLater]

that stance is one of a liberal these days.

Yes, exactly.

[Serenity Now]

Yes, exactly.

Because Reagan's 2nd amendment stance would be that of a flaming liberal these days.

[SoonerorLater]

Because Reagan's 2nd amendment stance would be that of a flaming liberal these days.

I'm trying to remember all of the restrictive gun control legislation that Reagan signed into law during his two terms. Drawing a blank. Maybe you could refresh my memory.

[Serenity Now]

I'm trying to remember all of the restrictive gun control legislation that Reagan signed into law during his two terms. Drawing a blank. Maybe you could refresh my memory.

He supported the Brady bill and assault weapons legislation.

[Turd_Ferguson]

He supported the Brady bill and assault weapons legislation.

Lol...dance, monkey, dance.

[SoonerorLater]

He supported the Brady bill and assault weapons legislation.

Not when he was in elected office.

[okie52]

Maybe "plank" is a poor choice of words. Let's just say he supported positions that could gain support from both sides of the isle. Here are some examples. Calling on the GOP to quit tilting at the gay marriage windmill. Graham did no put all Muslims in one box and apologized to them on behalf of the rhetoric from Trump. He thought Trump's immigration plans were nonsensical and gibberish. He actually concurred with scientists that climate change is happening but didn't go as far as to accept cap/trade as an option. He thought that keeping guns from criminals and mentally ill people was reasonable - hell, that stance is one of a liberal these days.

Grahamnesty?

Someone should apologize for Lindsey.

He does believe in AGW and he does support cap and trade. He helped craft the 2009 senate bill for cap and trade that fortunately never was brought up for a vote.


While he played a key role crafting a 2009 cap-and-trade proposal in the Senate, he later walked away from it. And once, in true Republican fashion, he questioned the scientific founding for climate change.

https://newrepublic.com/article/121936/lindsey-graham-republican-environmentalists-can-love

Compromise? Is citizenship the compromise for border security?


"If I were president of the United States, I would veto any bill that did not have a pathway to citizenship," Graham, 59, told Capital Download, USA TODAY's weekly newsmaker series. "You would have a long, hard path to citizenship ... but I want to create that path because I don't like the idea of millions of people living in America for the rest of their lives being the hired help. That's not who we are."

If every dem was demanding citizenship and the pubs were holding out for no legalization, wouldn't the middle ground be some type of legalization rather than citizenship as Graham was insisting on doing?

And Lindsey along with Mcshame never saw a war they didn't like.

Fortunately grahamnesty never could top 1% and trailed badly in his home state...which is why he got out of the race so he wouldn't be embarrassed by his *** getting kicked in South Carolina.

Good riddance!!!

[Serenity Now]

He does believe in AGWYou mean, like, science?


Compromise? Is citizenship the compromise for border security?

If every dem was demanding citizenship and the pubs were holding out for no legalization, wouldn't the middle ground be some type of legalization rather than citizenship as Graham was insisting on doing?

And Lindsey along with Mcshame never saw a war they didn't like.

Fortunately grahamnesty never could top 1% and trailed badly in his home state...which is why he got out of the race so he wouldn't be embarrassed by his *** getting kicked in South Carolina.

Good riddance!!!I concur on the middle ground and the war hawks. I just don't see how he ever looked in the mirror and said, "yep, I should be President".

[okie52]

You mean, like, science?

I concur on the middle ground and the war hawks. I just don't see how he ever looked in the mirror and said, "yep, I should be President".

Oh you can believe in AGW and not believe in destroying the economy. As many dems have proven, AGW only matters as a political weapon rather than seeking a pragmatic approach to reducing CO2 (see nukes, ng, etc...).

And there is no "settled science" on AGW. No one knows where the tipping point is, how much impact man is having, how much the oceans will rise or how many additional droughts or more severe storms will be due to AGW. Its fine to err on the side of caution but to state categorically that an F5 tornado in OK in May was due to AGW is laughable and diminishes the already strained credibility of the AGW supporters.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Oh you can believe in AGW and not believe in destroying the economy. As many dems have proven, AGW only matters as a political weapon rather than seeking a pragmatic approach to reducing CO2 (see nukes, ng, etc...).

And there is no "settled science" on AGW. No one knows where the tipping point is, how much impact man is having, how much the oceans will rise or how many additional droughts or more severe storms will be due to AGW. Its fine to err on the side of caution but to state categorically that an F5 tornado in OK in May was due to AGW is laughable and diminishes the already strained credibility of the AGW supporters.

Word.

The Dems and the EU/UN for the most part, have jumped on this for monetary reasons only. The rich and the middle class already give so much money to other countries, via the government. How much more do they want? I wish Trump or somebody would get in there and shut that **** down NOW.

[champions77]

You mean, like, science?

I concur on the middle ground and the war hawks. I just don't see how he ever looked in the mirror and said, "yep, I should be President".

The Climate change agenda is fraught with so much fraud that even you should be able to see it Serenity. I mean they have to cook the books with the data to achieve the desired results, they placed the monitors in places of higher temps to ensure the results they were looking for.

After some of the coldest winters on record around the world they have to change their crusade from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change". They put out as true the ridiculous stat about 99% of scientist believe in Climate Change, which even if true, isn't the meaningful statistic. The question is not if there is climate change, but how much of any climate change is directly related to human activity? That would be a more honest approach right?
The fact is that the climate has been changing since earth was formed, and it has warmed many times prior to the time of the Industrial revolution, right?
Why then are you so eager to incur another tax, depriving you of monies that would otherwise go to your family, your church, your community?

[Serenity Now]

The Climate change agenda is fraught with so much fraud that even you should be able to see it Serenity. I mean they have to cook the books with the data to achieve the desired results, they placed the monitors in places of higher temps to ensure the results they were looking for.

After some of the coldest winters on record around the world they have to change their crusade from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change". They put out as true the ridiculous stat about 99% of scientist believe in Climate Change, which even if true, isn't the meaningful statistic. The question is not if there is climate change, but how much of any climate change is directly related to human activity? That would be a more honest approach right?
The fact is that the climate has been changing since earth was formed, and it has warmed many times prior to the time of the Industrial revolution, right?
Why then are you so eager to incur another tax, depriving you of monies that would otherwise go to your family, your church, your community?
Bipartisan studies have determined that they didn't cook the books. Global warming and such doesn't necessarily mean only warmer. It also leads to more variability. I think most warming is non earth related (solar). My worry is that we inhibit the organism that is the earth's ability to adapt as it should.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Bipartisan studies have determined that they didn't cook the books.


Link?

[olevetonahill]

Link?

He's off Googlin trying to find sompun to back his mouth up LOL

[Turd_Ferguson]

He's off Googlin trying to find sompun to back his mouth up LOL

That'll take half the frig'n innerwebs. :D

[Serenity Now]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/08/science/earth/08climate.html?hp&_r=0

It's up to 9 different independent reviews now. Were you guys the kids of the people denying the link from cigs to cancer in the 1970's? Were you the 1 out of 5 dentists surveyed who didn't recommend brushing and flossing?

I'm not a cap/trade guy. I just think the world needs to work on it. We need to facilitate our partners working on it.

[champions77]

Bipartisan studies have determined that they didn't cook the books. Global warming and such doesn't necessarily mean only warmer. It also leads to more variability. I think most warming is non earth related (solar). My worry is that we inhibit the organism that is the earth's ability to adapt as it should.

The climate change is one of the biggest frauds in History. I guess you forgot about the emails intercepted where data was manipulated. I am curious as to the percent of climate change advocates versus climate change skeptics as to which ones are receiving government grant money and who are not? Probably never see that one, just like you'll never see the crime rates amongst those on welfare roles.
Why you would agree to something that would cripple our economy, and in doing so our efforts would not make any appreciable difference in the co2 output into the earth's atmosphere is beyond comprehension. Why would you be ok with that?

Go read up a on solar flares. There you will find the cause of a great majority if not all of our climate "changes". I know to agree that the sun is the culprit would not allow the leftists in our government to acquire more control over our economy, our way of life, our assets and us, so that can't be the cause of it all. Gotta be something we are doing right?

[Serenity Now]

The climate change is one of the biggest frauds in History. I guess you forgot about the emails intercepted where data was manipulated. I am curious as to the percent of climate change advocates versus climate change skeptics as to which ones are receiving government grant money and who are not? Probably never see that one, just like you'll never see the crime rates amongst those on welfare roles.
Why you would agree to something that would cripple our economy, and in doing so our efforts would not make any appreciable difference in the co2 output into the earth's atmosphere is beyond comprehension. Why would you be ok with that?

Go read up a on solar flares. There you will find the cause of a great majority if not all of our climate "changes". I know to agree that the sun is the culprit would not allow the leftists in our government to acquire more control over our economy, our way of life, our assets and us, so that can't be the cause of it all. Gotta be something we are doing right?

The 9 reviews were performed AFTER the emails were stolen. These were reviews of the data collection efforts. I think solar activity has the overwhelming majority of impact on our climate. I look at things like the Mini Ice Age in the early 1800's that saw a one year blip in inexplicable cooling that year that was WELL before any industrialization. That said, the impact of the growth of CO2 is not truly known. And, what happens if we (the big "we" - like Brazil, China, etc.) keep clear cutting trees that serve a purpose?

I don't know. Scientists study it for a living. They don't know but they know more than you or me. I know Jim Inhofe and Ted Cruz don't know either. Treating the world like a Boy Scout is probably how we should do. Do no harm. On the scale of global warming between Jim Inhofe and Al Gore I'm in the middle.

[champions77]

The 9 reviews were performed AFTER the emails were stolen. These were reviews of the data collection efforts. I think solar activity has the overwhelming majority of impact on our climate. I look at things like the Mini Ice Age in the early 1800's that saw a one year blip in inexplicable cooling that year that was WELL before any industrialization. That said, the impact of the growth of CO2 is not truly known. And, what happens if we (the big "we" - like Brazil, China, etc.) keep clear cutting trees that serve a purpose?

I don't know. Scientists study it for a living. They don't know but they know more than you or me. I know Jim Inhofe and Ted Cruz don't know either. Treating the world like a Boy Scout is probably how we should do. Do no harm. On the scale of global warming between Jim Inhofe and Al Gore I'm in the middle.

It is troubling to me on so many counts I don't know where to start. The scientist that believe in Climate Change are many times rewarded by hefty government grants to study the subject. Funny how someone can start believing something, especially when you receive money to believe a certain way isn't it.
The sensationalism that the Climate Change advocates go about their business is also worrisome. ABC NEWS in 2008, predicted that NYC would be under water this year, remember?
The 99% number they throw out is also a bit disingenuous. Shouldn't that number be 100%? After all, climate has been changing since the beginning of time. Go back a few millions years and you could own Beachfront property in Oklahoma, as parts of what would become Oklahoma was covered with ocean. The urgency they all show makes me think that their thoughts are, "Hey let's get this through, or else they may see some stats that are contrary to what we are stating"


And the fact that if the leftists politicians, had an unfettered ability to change us to satisfy their demands, we would see an increase in taxes, we would witness a much more gestapo like EPA than what we've ever seen, gotta police those polluters you know, and all for what, that China, India and Russia continues along polluting the world, negating any real gains in the race to decrease our carbon footprint? Is that acceptable to you?

I do know socialist believe that in order to achieve that sought after utopia, that they must control it all, healthcare, carbon output, your income, your freedom, your guns, they have to have it all. So no, I don't trust any of them a bit. I will stop short Serenity of accusing you of being naïve to it all, but I do wonder.

[yermom]

What's it like having everyone out to get you?

[yermom]

Also, if you find someone not in that isn't in that 99% that isn't in an oil company's pocket, I'll be very surprised

[Turd_Ferguson]

Also, if you find someone not in that isn't in that 99% that isn't in an oil company's pocket, I'll be very surprised

Eggnog? :D

[SoonerorLater]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/08/science/earth/08climate.html?hp&_r=0

It's up to 9 different independent reviews now. Were you guys the kids of the people denying the link from cigs to cancer in the 1970's? Were you the 1 out of 5 dentists surveyed who didn't recommend brushing and flossing?

I'm not a cap/trade guy. I just think the world needs to work on it. We need to facilitate our partners working on it.

You can make a prima facie case for AGW. Even if you could absolutely prove a linkage that doesn't necessarily mean that we should change. The truth is that there is nothing at this point that gives us the same bang for the buck as fossil fuels. Not incidentally the rise in the use of fossil fuel coincides with the population increase of the earth. A reduction would almost for sure result in a de-population that is not a gradual attrition.

No other issue that the globalist crowd can gin up would so willingly bring worldwide oversight like 'Climate Change'.

As an aside I'm enjoying the warmer than usual Winter. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad at all.

[Serenity Now]

It is troubling to me on so many counts I don't know where to start. The scientist that believe in Climate Change are many times rewarded by hefty government grants to study the subject. Funny how someone can start believing something, especially when you receive money to believe a certain way isn't it.
The sensationalism that the Climate Change advocates go about their business is also worrisome. ABC NEWS in 2008, predicted that NYC would be under water this year, remember?
The 99% number they throw out is also a bit disingenuous. Shouldn't that number be 100%? After all, climate has been changing since the beginning of time. Go back a few millions years and you could own Beachfront property in Oklahoma, as parts of what would become Oklahoma was covered with ocean. The urgency they all show makes me think that their thoughts are, "Hey let's get this through, or else they may see some stats that are contrary to what we are stating"


And the fact that if the leftists politicians, had an unfettered ability to change us to satisfy their demands, we would see an increase in taxes, we would witness a much more gestapo like EPA than what we've ever seen, gotta police those polluters you know, and all for what, that China, India and Russia continues along polluting the world, negating any real gains in the race to decrease our carbon footprint? Is that acceptable to you?

I do know socialist believe that in order to achieve that sought after utopia, that they must control it all, healthcare, carbon output, your income, your freedom, your guns, they have to have it all. So no, I don't trust any of them a bit. I will stop short Serenity of accusing you of being naïve to it all, but I do wonder.
Merry Christmas senator inhofe. Be careful landing that plane. Love your work as the chair if whatever committee you're chairing....the environmental committee. Lol. That's like putting kelvin Sampson in charge of he AT&T cell plan. You're doing the Lords work!

[olevetonahill]

Hey SN here ya go just change a word LOL|

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KPplYp7K7M

[olevetonahill]

Hey SN here ya go just change a word LOL|

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KPplYp7K7M

That word is, Rowlin to Trollin !

[Mookie91]

If there is climate change Jesus will swoop in on his golden eagle and save us, unless he doesn't but that would have been his plan all along because gay people are bad.

[okie52]

Dam...this place is as dead as lindsey's campaign.

[Mookie91]

Dam...this place is as dead as lindsey's campaign.

BIG game tomorrow

[okie52]

BIG game tomorrow

Boomer Sooner!!!