Socialist Sweden Show Its True Colors

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/24/sweden-asylum-seekers-refugees-policy-reversal

Well, well, well...when the rubber hits the road, the socialists slam the door. Phonies to the end, socialists. As long as its happening on someone else's shores, they are willing to sanctimoniously lecture about the openness of their societies. What a joke!

Aw, the articles says they might get "190,000 in a country of 10 million." Yeah? Is that so tough? America is a country of about 350 million and we've got 11-20 million illegals. That doesn't include those immigrant here legally.

Sweden can't take half - or, more likely, a quarter - of what we do? And, they and the stupid academics and leftist politicians here like to drone on about how great and open their societies are?

Frauds. The Swedes are as phony and half-baked as any other socialists anywhere in the world. So easy to tell other people to spend their money - how to and on whom - until it becomes your money.

[FaninAma]

Massive immigration into the US has only one purpose......the irreversible altering of the dominant western culture in the world.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

This is what is happening in all European dominated areas of the world. Only thing to allow a takeover by the elitist rich or political cronies.

[Serenity Now]

Massive immigration into the US has only one purpose......the irreversible altering of the dominant western culture in the world.

That's what those desperate people from Guatemala, Mexico, etc are thinking.

[TAFBSooner]

Massive immigration into the US has only one purpose......the irreversible altering of the dominant western culture in the world.

Massive immigration into the US from Latin America, and indeed the whole rest of the world, is because they like our culture of being able to improve your lot in the world, and they want a chance at it for themselves.

Refugees from the Middle East are trying to get here to listen to the Bee Gees singing "Stayin' Alive," or something like that. There's a greater risk to US of helping Daesh keep all those potential "citizens," and fighters, under their control, than there is of the few possible terrorists that will probably sneak in along with the refugees.

US citizens don't march in lockstep; why do you imagine that people from other cultures do?

[FaninAma]

That's what those desperate people from Guatemala, Mexico, etc are thinking.

I didn't realize they were the group responsible for enforcing this country's immigration laws.

[FaninAma]

Massive immigration into the US from Latin America, and indeed the whole rest of the world, is because they like our culture of being able to improve your lot in the world, and they want a chance at it for themselves.

Refugees from the Middle East are trying to get here to listen to the Bee Gees singing "Stayin' Alive," or something like that. There's a greater risk to US of helping Daesh keep all those potential "citizens," and fighters, under their control, than there is of the few possible terrorists that will probably sneak in along with the refugees.

US citizens don't march in lockstep; why do you imagine that people from other cultures do?

So, how many of the world's billions of destitute, poor, unfree or those simply wanting to improve their lot in life should we take? Should we enforce current immigration laws? Should we have no immigration laws? Which counry in the ME, Asia, or Latin America should we be more like? Should immigration be merit based or purely for humanitarian reasons?

A society without a dominant culture really isn't a functioning society. The competing interests will eventually tear it apart.

[Tear Down This Wall]

So, how many of the world's billions of destitute, poor, unfree or those simply wanting to improve their lot in life should we take? Should we enforce current immigration laws? Should we have no immigration laws? Which counry in the ME, Asia, or Latin America should we be more like? Should immigration be merit based or purely for humanitarian reasons?

A society without a dominant culture really isn't a functioning society. The competing interests will eventually tear it apart.

About four times as many as the "big hearted/humanitarian" Swedish can handle...so far.

[TAFBSooner]

So, how many of the world's billions of destitute, poor, unfree or those simply wanting to improve their lot in life should we take? Should we enforce current immigration laws? Should we have no immigration laws? Which counry in the ME, Asia, or Latin America should we be more like? Should immigration be merit based or purely for humanitarian reasons?

A society without a dominant culture really isn't a functioning society. The competing interests will eventually tear it apart.

You guys can debate the best policy. I was just calling out a statement that was, unusually for you, unsupportable if not ridiculous.

The dominant culture of this country was once "compete aggressively to make a lot of money." That has been the drawing card for immigrants from all over the world, including the ones from Latin America.

[yermom]

So, how many of the world's billions of destitute, poor, unfree or those simply wanting to improve their lot in life should we take? Should we enforce current immigration laws? Should we have no immigration laws? Which counry in the ME, Asia, or Latin America should we be more like? Should immigration be merit based or purely for humanitarian reasons?

A society without a dominant culture really isn't a functioning society. The competing interests will eventually tear it apart.

so... build a wall and start shooting them if they try to climb over? death camps?

what are you supposed to do when there is a ****hole country to your south that people want to escape from? what about the ones already here? just pretend they don't exist?

you know people said basically all the same **** about the Irish, right?

[FaninAma]

so... build a wall and start shooting them if they try to climb over? death camps?

what are you supposed to do when there is a ****hole country to your south that people want to escape from? what about the ones already here? just pretend they don't exist?

you know people said basically all the same **** about the Irish, right?

If the Irish are here illegally round them up and send them back to Ireland.

There is a lot the country can do. Round up people who have overstayed their visas. Be more aggressive about controlling the border. Controlled legal immigration is a positive thing for the country. Uncontrolled or poorly controlled immigration that is non-merit based is a huge negative and does nothing to ultimately improve the humanitarian condition of the people who live in the poorest countries. What does it do to take 1 to 2 million people bases on strictly humanitarian criteria? It helps you liberals sleep better at night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE&feature=youtu.be

[hawaii 5-0]

'Illegal' refugees from Syria ?

Someone needs to review the hoops those folks have to jump thru to get into the US.

The Jews trying to get outta Germany right before WW II were in the same situation. They were being rounded up and no one wanted to take them in. Some got out but a few million didn't.

Anyone gonna refute my allegation that toddlers killed more Americans since 9/11 than have terrorists ?

We better round them up and send them somewhere. Maybe Candyland.

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[REDREX]

Well more people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than US Nuclear plant accidents----Same type of argument

[Serenity Now]

Well more people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than US Nuclear plant accidents----Same type of argument
True!

[FaninAma]

'Illegal' refugees from Syria ?

Someone needs to review the hoops those folks have to jump thru to get into the US.

The Jews trying to get outta Germany right before WW II were in the same situation. They were being rounded up and no one wanted to take them in. Some got out but a few million didn't.

Anyone gonna refute my allegation that toddlers killed more Americans since 9/11 than have terrorists ?

We better round them up and send them somewhere. Maybe Candyland.

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You were in a hurry when you posted this reply...weren't you? LOL

[Tear Down This Wall]

Well more people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than US Nuclear plant accidents----Same type of argument

Exactly. But, look...some people are bent on believing that there is no physical or economic threat to just letting immigrant wave after immigrant wave infest the country.

You look at the craphole San Bernardino which had the mass shooting yesterday...twenty years ago, the insurer I worked for was heavily invested there. It was part of the con the government and mortgage companies put together to make housing "more affordable."

In five years, I probably has less than a dozen American families as customers in that whole area. I predicted then that it would become the crap pile that it is today. I had seen it happen in Texas to suburbs of Dallas like Garland and Irving.

These immigrants bring their filth with them. From personal hygiene to not taking care of their properties. We have diseases and illnesses thought long ago to be no longer a threat popping back up because of these people. We have neighborhoods inundated with foreigners going from nice properties to run down sh*tholes.

The neighborhood in Richardson where I grew up is full of Middle Easterners and the houses and lawns now look like hell. Back in the day, even in the older parts of the city, the houses and properties were kept up nicely.

However they lived in the countries they came from, they live that way here: Dirty and unkempt.

These stupid comparison to Jews forced out of Germany in WWII...give me a break. The Jewish people have been successful wherever they go and however they've gotten there. You don't find ghettos rife with Jewish immigrants anywhere in the world. Nor do you find high crime, low academic achievement, or high unemployment among immigrant Jews.

Get f*cking real, please. Give me every Jew in Israel over any other immigrant group coming to America today.

[Serenity Now]

These stupid comparison to Jews forced out of Germany in WWII...give me a break. The Jewish people have been successful wherever they go and however they've gotten there. You don't find ghettos rife with Jewish immigrants anywhere in the world.

The comparison is that we turned them away as did many others around the world. Turns out they weren't so successful when they immigrated here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazi_concentration_camps

From before: http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...-war-ii-213384


In February 1942, just two months after the attack on Pearl Harbor, a national poll asked respondents to identify the national, ethnic or religious groups that are a “menace [threat] to this country.” Unsurprisingly, 24 percent identified Japanese-Americans and 18 percent volunteered German-Americans. Jews ranked third, at 15 percent. Three years later, in 1945, the same question yielded more arresting results: 24 percent identified Jews as the most menacing ethnic group in America, ahead of the Japanese (9 percent) and Germans (6 percent).

Fear of Jews—not simply resentment of Jews—flowed from diverse sources. America’s most prominent hate peddler, the clergyman Gerald L.K. Smith, represented the extreme fringe of popular anti-Semitism when he warned of “200,000 Communist Jews at the Mexican border waiting to get into this country. If they are admitted they will rape every woman and child that is left unprotected.”

[Tear Down This Wall]

The comparison is that we turned them away as did many others around the world. Turns out they weren't so successful when they immigrated here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazi_concentration_camps

From before: http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...-war-ii-213384

Idiot. They didn't "immigrate" to concentration camps. They were forced to go there.

[Serenity Now]

Idiot. They didn't "immigrate" to concentration camps. They were forced to go there.

Look at you educating idgets like me. Thanks!

[FaninAma]

The comparison is that we turned them away as did many others around the world. Turns out they weren't so successful when they immigrated here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazi_concentration_camps

From before: http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...-war-ii-213384

Not taking in the Jewish refugees was a humanitarian mistake because they had no where else to go.(Israel came into existence because of this occurence). Most of the Syrian refugees are pouring out of safe refugee camps in Turkey and other Middle East countries. They have a place to go. Now it may not be as good or have as many benefits as Europe or the United States but there is shelter, food and safety from attack in the refugee settlements. I am all for increasing aid to these refugee efforts that are set up in the Middle East. Then if/when the violence subsides they can go back to their home towns and contribute in a positive way to building a better life for themselves and their countrymen. Taking tens of millions of the refugees out of their home region and permanently displacing them into cultures that they have been show to have a very difficult time assimilating into does them or their host country little permanent good.

What is so hard to understand about that?

[BoulderSooner79]

Not taking in the Jewish refugees was a humanitarian mistake because they had no where else to go.(Israel came into existence because of this occurence). Most of the Syrian refugees are pouring out of safe refugee camps in Turkey and other Middle East countries. They have a place to go. Now it may not be as good or have as many benefits as Europe or the United States but there is shelter, food and safety from attack in the refugee settlements. I am all for increasing aid to these refugee efforts that are set up in the Middle East. Then if/when the violence subsides they can go back to their home towns and contribute in a positive way to building a better life for themselves and their countrymen. Taking tens of millions of the refugees out of their home region and permanently displacing them into cultures that they have been show to have a very difficult time assimilating into does them or their host country little permanent good.

What is so hard to understand about that?

This exactly. These people will be needed by whatever the new Syria turns out to be. But I understand why they are leaving refugee camps - that's no way to live long term and this thing has been dragging out for years. US and Russia need to quit with the tug of war of trying to oust Assad/prop up Assad and look at the bigger picture.