Goodbye Coach Rhoades

[swardboy]

Iowa State canned Paul Rhoades today. I'm mildly surprised since I thought Iowa State improved after the Mangino affair. Guess it was a "rockier Rhoade" than I imagined.

Can't wait for Badge to post a coaching changes thread at the end of the year. Some major changes ahead.

[BoulderSooner79]

I thought Badger had started such a thread.

[SoonerMarkVA]

Yeah, that's an odd move. They seemed to be on the cusp this year of being much more competitive.

[swardboy]

I thought Badger had started such a thread.

You're right! It was three pages back. the beheadings started early this year.

[Soonerjeepman]

Yeah, that's an odd move. They seemed to be on the cusp this year of being much more competitive.

well, when ya blow a 21 pt lead to winless ksu...losing 3 fumbles in 3 straight possessions...they let him cut mangino but that wasn't enough

[rock on sooner]

Welp, it is too bad about Rhoades...although it is probably a correct move.
Rhoades should have tossed Mangino after last year...guy is a cancer...read
his tweets. Issue with ISU is Iowa...can't recruit against Fry and the legend.
Ferentz is overrated and most assuredly overpaid. He is 11-0 with a cupcake
schedule, so the state thinks he is walking on water...hard to think where/who
ISU will go...I'm not so sure that ISU shouldn't take a hard look at FCS, even
though the enrollment is more than IU...

Having said all that they have four kids at skill that will good in the years to come.
If they can get some to help on D, they will compete....

[SoonerMarkVA]

well, when ya blow a 21 pt lead to winless ksu...losing 3 fumbles in 3 straight possessions...they let him cut mangino but that wasn't enough

I did say on the cusp :)

ISU failed to close on a number of games where they, by all rights, should have won if they'd just finished well. Learning to close is as much learning how to win, and think of yourselves as winners, as anything else--avoid getting anxiety from prosperity. I think he was right there. I bet next year would have been a big leap for them. Now, they'll be starting over, and ISU isn't a place where "fresh start" means something good's gonna happen.

[tycat947]

I think since they expanded their stadium, they can't afford to keep a good 'ol local guy. I expect them to try to entice a pretty good "Other 5" head coach (i.e. Fuente, Houston coach, etc) or a well known top assistant from P5 school (like Chizik in the past).

[Jacie]

ISU is a mixed bag. Rhoades went there and must have signed a "one miracle win/year" deal with the devil (this years's was sa*et). The only way a coach with any experience would go there is if he was at the end of the line and had no other offer. Their best bet is to get an assistant first-timer, one with a good recruiting record to go with some X's & O's skill. I hope they find a good hire. What the Big XII does not need now is another Kansas.

[swardboy]

Amen

[cherokeebrewer]

I don't see them doing any better. Good luck with your next coach. He's gonna need it...

[rock on sooner]

ISU is a mixed bag. Rhoades went there and must have signed a "one miracle win/year" deal with the devil (this years's was sa*et). The only way a coach with any experience would go there is if he was at the end of the line and had no other offer. Their best bet is to get an assistant first-timer, one with a good recruiting record to go with some X's & O's skill. I hope they find a good hire. What the Big XII does not need now is another Kansas.

The drums are beating for a top flight coordinator...two names...Briles and Riley..
the thought is that an offensive whiz will come since the last three have all been
on the defensive side of the ball. My belief is that Pollard did it now to 1. make
the last game an emotional one for the team(they really care for Rhoads) and
2. to accelerate the job hunt. Pollard will not waste time.

Briles has already applied for the North Texas job...ISU is a better job. I don't
think Riley (hope and pray) will come. I expect a lower tier successful head
coach to take it, get some early success with some good kids already on the
team and then bolt to a different "opportunity" (Chizit comes to mind)...some
names being kicked around...Babers at Bowling Green...Carey at N. Illinois..
Fuente at Memphis...Wells at Utah State. All those are HC's. One other O-
coordinator is Scott Frost at Oregon.

Rhoads will take some time off, spend the $4.6m buyout and then hook up
with a lower tier program.

[BoulderSooner79]

Riley is in a plum position and would get a great starting HC job if he stays the course here and succeeds. He would have to prove he can recruit and develop players and be instrumental in developing and managing position coaches. But there are always risks to waiting because a team can have down years outside of his control and a decent job could pass him by. But even if that happens, a team that is serious in their vetting process would understand what a coach has done even if the football gods have been cruel. I hope Riley takes the long view of accomplishing something here and doesn't grab for something shiny, but deadend.

[badger]

I thought Badger had started such a thread.

Yeah, I just haven't updated it in a few weeks. The coaching axes started early this season; even before the season started (Illinois). I'll get it updated soon, promise