We’ll take Eric Striker over Shawn Oakman

[milesl]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/08/06/well-take-eric-striker-over-shawn-oakman/

Baylor's Shawn Oakman has NFL measureables, but it's Oklahoma's Eric Striker who is the Big 12's best pass-rusher

https://www.profootballfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/EricStriker.jpg

Whether it’s from people anticipating the 2015 college season, or those looking further ahead to the 2016 NFL Draft, there is considerable hype around Baylor’s Shawn Oakman, and it’s easy to see why. At 6-foot-8, 280 pounds and absolutely ripped, Oakman looks like a defensive coach’s dream.

(The memes are pretty funny, too.) (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2317314-baylors-shawn-oakman-becomes-internet-meme-due-to-massive-frame)

Oakman isn’t all style, either; there is some substance to his play. Lining up largely as the weakside defensive end in Baylor’s four-man front, he racked up 10 sacks and 45 total pressures in 2014. Those are solid overall numbers, but far from elite status, and Oakman wasn’t hugely productive on a per-snap basis. He recorded a 7.9 pass-rush productivity (PRP) in Power 5 play that ranked 45th among 4-3 DEs.

So, despite all of the hype, Oakman isn’t the most dangerous pass-rusher in the Big 12. That title belongs to Oklahoma outside linebacker Eric Striker.

At 6-foot tall and 220 pounds, Striker is a very different player to Oakman, and one who doesn’t immediately stand out as a future NFL prospect. But in terms of their ability on the college football level, Striker is a much more explosive player, and a constant nuisance as an edge rusher. He finished 2014 with seven sacks and 62 total pressures, and did so on 116 fewer pass-rush snaps than Oakman. Striker’s hugely impressive 15.9 PRP against Power 5 opponents ranked second among 3-4 outside linebackers, and that figure rose to 18.1 when he rushed from the right, when supposedly matched up with the best pass protector the opposition had to offer.

Oakman will no doubt occupy the minds of NFL evaluators during the 2015 season, but Striker and his devastating first step should be causing sleepless nights for the offensive linemen of the Big 12.

[SicEmBaylor]

I'd rather not be hit by either one of them.

[olevetonahill]

I'd rather not be hit by either one of them.

Especially if Oakman leads with his Elbow.

[SicEmBaylor]

Especially if Oakman leads with his Elbow.

To the chest?

[Soonerjeepman]

give it up sic....it was a dirty play. Go cry on the bear board about how all these OU fans are still pissed.

That's what is so funny with you..THIS IS AN OU BOARD...we don't want to hear your bear bull$hit.

[KantoSooner]

What's funny is what awaits him in the neffel. If your name isn't Suh, you pretty soon run into guys who brutalize you. I look forward to watching that.

[Tear Down This Wall]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/08/06/well-take-eric-striker-over-shawn-oakman/

Baylor's Shawn Oakman has NFL measureables, but it's Oklahoma's Eric Striker who is the Big 12's best pass-rusher

https://www.profootballfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/EricStriker.jpg

Whether it’s from people anticipating the 2015 college season, or those looking further ahead to the 2016 NFL Draft, there is considerable hype around Baylor’s Shawn Oakman, and it’s easy to see why. At 6-foot-8, 280 pounds and absolutely ripped, Oakman looks like a defensive coach’s dream.

(The memes are pretty funny, too.) (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2317314-baylors-shawn-oakman-becomes-internet-meme-due-to-massive-frame)

Oakman isn’t all style, either; there is some substance to his play. Lining up largely as the weakside defensive end in Baylor’s four-man front, he racked up 10 sacks and 45 total pressures in 2014. Those are solid overall numbers, but far from elite status, and Oakman wasn’t hugely productive on a per-snap basis. He recorded a 7.9 pass-rush productivity (PRP) in Power 5 play that ranked 45th among 4-3 DEs.

So, despite all of the hype, Oakman isn’t the most dangerous pass-rusher in the Big 12. That title belongs to Oklahoma outside linebacker Eric Striker.

At 6-foot tall and 220 pounds, Striker is a very different player to Oakman, and one who doesn’t immediately stand out as a future NFL prospect. But in terms of their ability on the college football level, Striker is a much more explosive player, and a constant nuisance as an edge rusher. He finished 2014 with seven sacks and 62 total pressures, and did so on 116 fewer pass-rush snaps than Oakman. Striker’s hugely impressive 15.9 PRP against Power 5 opponents ranked second among 3-4 outside linebackers, and that figure rose to 18.1 when he rushed from the right, when supposedly matched up with the best pass protector the opposition had to offer.

Oakman will no doubt occupy the minds of NFL evaluators during the 2015 season, but Striker and his devastating first step should be causing sleepless nights for the offensive linemen of the Big 12.

Is this website a joke? Striker is too small to play in the NFL unless he can be switched to safety. He might catch on as a late round draft pick or free agent who might make a team for special teams.

Oakman, on the other hand, is a first day draft pick if he can manage a decent season and stay out of trouble off the field.

[SicEmBaylor]

give it up sic....it was a dirty play. Go cry on the bear board about how all these OU fans are still pissed.

That's what is so funny with you..THIS IS AN OU BOARD...we don't want to hear your bear bull$hit.

Really? I hadn't noticed this fact at any point in my 21,000+ post history. FTR: I have never once criticized OU on the Baylor boards. If I criticize OU, I do it here. Over there, I either defend OU or stay out of the conversation.

[Tear Down This Wall]

give it up sic....it was a dirty play. Go cry on the bear board about how all these OU fans are still pissed.

That's what is so funny with you..THIS IS AN OU BOARD...we don't want to hear your bear bull$hit.

I thought we went over this last fall. Why is Oakman's hit any worse than Bosworth with his spitting in opponents' facemasks when they were down or Roy Williams using the horsecollar tackle?

It's no different, but we accept it - and, many here praised those two for that type of play.

Stoops is more to blame for pretending Trevor Knight is a servicable quarterback and continuing to run him out there despite knowing he is (1) incapable of staying in the pocket under pressure, and (2) injury prone.

Oakman's hit was something we'd be lauding if he were wearing a crimson and cream uniform.

Stop being little titty babies. You should be more p*ssed at Stoops for letting the program get to point where Trevor Knight is our starting QB and Baylor is running roughshod over us. Faggots.

[KantoSooner]

Seriously, Tear, our company seems to disturb you something fierce. If we truly annoy you so much, go find another venue in which to park your rage. This whole thing, a chat board, college football in general, for that matter, is for fun. It's not 'real life'. Please find something about which you can be joyous. Life is too short to spend it muttering to oneself and tugging at one's own fingers.

[Tear Down This Wall]

Seriously, Tear, our company seems to disturb you something fierce. If we truly annoy you so much, go find another venue in which to park your rage. This whole thing, a chat board, college football in general, for that matter, is for fun. It's not 'real life'. Please find something about which you can be joyous. Life is too short to spend it muttering to oneself and tugging at one's own fingers.

Hmmm. And, yet, here are our fans complaining about a hit that took place last year. So...? They are complaining about the hit...for fun? Joyousness?

[Curly Bill]

I never get tired of message board posters telling others in what manner they should post, what mood they should be in when they post, etc, etc... It's one of the things that makes me go: Hmmmmmmm?????

[Tear Down This Wall]

I never get tired of message board posters telling others in what manner they should post, what mood they should be in when they post, etc, etc... It's one of the things that makes me go: Hmmmmmmm?????

Exactly. It's that "from the top down" mentality, I suppose.

[Curly Bill]

It's just dumb and childish the stuff like how if you don't tuck Stoops in at night you're not a real fan, or go be a fan of another team, or maybe my all-time favorite when people try to tell someone else their life must be miserable if they dare complain about the state of Sooner Nation.

This is a message board, and as things go message boards are pretty stupid and inconsequential , yet people make all sorts of grand assumptions about others based on what other's say on it.

"Oh, you're b*tching about Sooner football? Your life must be pretty miserable, it must suck to be you!" Really? How stupid does someone have to be to think someone else's life sucks just because they aren't on the Stoops bandwagon?!?!

Frankly, I've done some of my best complaining when things were going great, and kept pretty damn quite when things weren't so awesome.

[Tear Down This Wall]

Curly, I don't mind, really. To some degree, a portion of the fan base is always going to circle the wagon around this coach or that. And, that's fine.

But...

...I've lived long enough to have seen several Sooner football coaches. They all have one thing in common: once they leave, or are fired, there is still a University of Oklahoma.

My loyalty is to the University of Oklahoma. If there is some sort of perceived problem or slippage, it's fair game to discuss what it might be.

They don't have message boards for the School of Business or Engineering or what have you, but they do for athletics. So, you can publicly vent here for the sake of discussion. If I have a beef with the School of Business, there really is no public forum to discuss it.

And, as you know, in all institutions, people see things differently. And, that's okay.

I see things in the football program differently than some. And, that's fine. Some here want to praise the dirty play of our guys, but complain when someone dies it to us. Okay, fine. But, I'll point out your hypocrisy.

What will always be different about me is you can expect that I'll hold our players and coaches - and the departments - to the same standards on and off the field as our opponents.

So, I will criticize and praise on the level. If I say this type of hit is dirty or that type is dirty, I'll say it for everyone - Sooners, Bears, Pokes, whatever. There's no other way to do it, in my eyes.

Others here may disagree. I couldn't care less.

[Curly Bill]

In a minor sense the way some posters here behave reminds me of the current state of discourse in the US-of-A. You're only allowed to speak your mind when it fits the "accepted" way of thinking, and if you veer from that you have to be shouted down or ridiculed, told how miserable you are, or your life must be.

I make fun of and mock those people.

[KantoSooner]

But are you joyous in your mockery?

[Curly Bill]

But are you joyous in your mockery?

Yes, Yes I am, because I recognize this format for what it is.

And I'm not being critical of the format, but it's not life or death.

...and full disclosure - it also brings me some minor joy to poke a sharp stick at the "sunshine pumpers", or those in "crimson sunglasses" that get all riled up when anyone dare be critical of Stoops or OU football.

...and I TOTALLY believe those people can be waaaay critical of Stoops and Sooner football and yet still live a very satisfying life.

[SoonerorLater]

I thought we went over this last fall. Why is Oakman's hit any worse than Bosworth with his spitting in opponents' facemasks when they were down or Roy Williams using the horsecollar tackle?

It's no different, but we accept it - and, many here praised those two for that type of play.

Stoops is more to blame for pretending Trevor Knight is a servicable quarterback and continuing to run him out there despite knowing he is (1) incapable of staying in the pocket under pressure, and (2) injury prone.

Oakman's hit was something we'd be lauding if he were wearing a crimson and cream uniform.

Stop being little titty babies. You should be more p*ssed at Stoops for letting the program get to point where Trevor Knight is our starting QB and Baylor is running roughshod over us. Faggots.

The horsecollar tackle was not illegal when Roy Williams perfected it. As for spitting, have you ever been on the bottom of a pile before? Disgusting of course but what Oakman did was a straight up illegal dirty play with possible serious injury repercussions. Here's another play by Oakman lest you think the Knight incident is just a one-off. Here he is doing his Ndamukong Suh imitation.

https://vine.co/v/OndwuDlazPD

[Therealsouthsider]

Is this website a joke? Striker is too small to play in the NFL unless he can be switched to safety. He might catch on as a late round draft pick or free agent who might make a team for special teams.

Oakman, on the other hand, is a first day draft pick if he can manage a decent season and stay out of trouble off the field.

....He recorded a 7.9 pass-rush productivity (PRP) in Power 5 play that ranked 45th among 4-3 DEs.

....must have missed that part....I will call him Tony Mandarich




ss

[SicEmBaylor]

The horsecollar tackle was not illegal when Roy Williams perfected it. As for spitting, have you ever been on the bottom of a pile before? Disgusting of course but what Oakman did was a straight up illegal dirty play with possible serious injury repercussions. Here's another play by Oakman lest you think the Knight incident is just a one-off. Here he is doing his Ndamukong Suh imitation.

https://vine.co/v/OndwuDlazPD

Oakman did absolutely nothing wrong on that play against Knight. That knee to the face at the Tech game is another story entirely though.

[olevetonahill]

Oakman did absolutely nothing wrong on that play against Knight. That knee to the face at the Tech game is another story entirely though.

Keep Talking idiot!
http://img.picturequotes.com/2/17/16917/i-did-not-have-sexual-relations-with-that-woman-quote-1.jpg

[bluedogok]

You could make a highlight reel from Oakman's dirty or perceived dirty plays. The hit on Knight was far from his most egregious of those plays. The sad thing is players like him and Suh are damned good enough to not have to play like that.

[SicEmBaylor]

You could make a highlight reel from Oakman's dirty or perceived dirty plays. The hit on Knight was far from his most egregious of those plays. The sad thing is players like him and Suh are damned good enough to not have to play like that.

Oakman is no Suh. He has let his emotions get the better of him a small handful of times, but play after play after play -- Oakman is not a dirty player. And, unlike Suh, he's a pretty good guy off the field. He just really gets into the game.

[Curly Bill]

If he was a Sooner we'd be celebrating the guy.

I wish we had some (more?) mean and nasty players (if that is in fact what Oakman is).

[bluedogok]

Oakman is no Suh. He has let his emotions get the better of him a small handful of times, but play after play after play -- Oakman is not a dirty player. And, unlike Suh, he's a pretty good guy off the field. He just really gets into the game.
It still comes down to that both are good enough that they don't have to play dirty and cross that line like they do at times. Typically players who played "dirty" were the ones of average talent but a high drive and were trying to use that style of play to get up to a level that they really weren't in. Sometimes "nastiness" goes too far and becomes dirty.

You have to remember, with 30-40 HD cameras at almost every game you can't get away with the things they used to. Kind of like students who can't get away with stuff that we did 30 or so years ago because of cameras everywhere.

[Tear Down This Wall]

....He recorded a 7.9 pass-rush productivity (PRP) in Power 5 play that ranked 45th among 4-3 DEs.

....must have missed that part....I will call him Tony Mandarich




ss

I don't care what kind of statistic some computer nerd invented on his website - Oakman is big enough to play in the NFL and will get his shot via the draft on day one; Striker is either a late rounder or free agent. He's a tweener without a real football position. Glad he does well for us while here, but reality works against guys his size in the pros.

Also, Mandarich was an offensive lineman.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Striker will not be late round but it will have to be the right fit for him.

[badger]

Striker will not be late round but it will have to be the right fit for him.
Where do you see him going in the NFL Draft? What team would be the right fit for him?